Playing Dirty
Tisk tisk.
NBC is trying to strong arm Jay Leno back to the Tonight Show, the very same program they are basically forcing him to leave against his own will in a year and a half.
The funnyman with the heart of gold has been supporting his writers by walking out in solidarity and not crossing the picket line.
But, now, NBC has informed all nonwriting staff that they will be fired at the end of next week if Leno doesn't return.
Ewwww. That's all sorts of wrong!
“I talk to Jay every day, and he will not be the first [late-night host] to cross the picket line,” said Tonight Show head writer Joe Medeiros, also a strike captain for the Writers Guild of America.
So, in an attempt to save people's jobs and also lure Leno back, NBC is "looking into" the possibility of having guest hosts fill in while Jay is gone.
How shady of NBC!
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What a bunch of jerks at NBC. Regardless of what you think of the strike, it's not the nonwriting staff's fault what's going on.
Buja Buja!
Kudos, Perez. Great entry.
I can't wait until Conan replaces Jay
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booo! F*** NBC!
OH MY FUHREAKING GOOSH! FIRST!
wow.. that is FUCKED UP.. these producres are HORRIBLE
Shame on them! ASSHOLES!!
wow.. that is FUCKED UP.. these producers are HORRIBLE
DAMMIT!!!
ugh…who cares about the picket line!
screw them. i want NEW EPISODES OF THE OFFICE!!!
i say fire everyone if they dont return by next week.
off wit their headz, with a Z
Wow this is interesting. This is pertty serious stuff huh.
WOW how LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW how LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The studios won't win this. Because they are not the ones with the creative talent and at the end of the day that's what makes hollywood go around. Right on Perez for this post. You have a heart too.
I remember when Jack Parr was the host, before Jonny and Jay. I think it's terrible that they are giving Jay Leno such a hard time. He saved that show when they passed on Joan Rivers to replace Jonny. I agree with the other posts on this web, Kudos to Perez for bringing this to our attention.
WHAT A JOKE!
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Yuck. I've met Jay. He IS a great guy. NBC should be ashamed of themselves.
GO NBC!
i cant believe people are supporting those cry baby selfish writers
they are keeping people unemployed because they want higher pay cheques
so typical of nbc and universal the they are not "green" for the environment they are "green" because of greed
they said they'd be LAID OFF, not fired. but props to jay leno for doing what he's doing.
Yet another attempt at Union busting by Big Money. Stand strong, writers!
NBC tried to hire Creazy Rosie, the lunatic that think 9/11 was an inside job, to be a host in cable prime time.- NBC is more liberal than CNN and as a true liberal and communsit adoring network, they feel more confortable when they are oppresing people.
Boo! Hiss! Support the writers!
Re: napoleon diddy –
I want new episodes of The Office too, but if you can appreciate The Office, don't you understand that what makes that show is the unique team of writers (half of which are actors in the show.. Steve Carrell included.. he has written an episode or two). You can't have The Office without those writers, plain and simple. They deserve all the royalties from DVD sales and internet views. Have you seen how many fucking adds they put in the online episodes? And they are keeping all that for themselves and not giving them to the writers?? Fucking ridiculous!!
Those of you who don't care about the strike either don't care much for TV or don't understand how this industry works, and that's fine. But you have to realize that there are a ton of people out there who DO know and care, and that's why this strike is vital to the future of Televison.
Fuck the TV execs!
fuck nbc that is a low down dirty thing to do!!!! Support the WGA!!!
What the fuck is a PR diva????? ahahahahahaahahahha
Re: Shireen – Get a life.
Once again you lie and misinform. Laying off is not firing!
This makes me so mad! I love that Jay Leno seems to be one of the few celebs with real integrity, and he and his staff are being punished for it? It's infuriating. Why not just give writers a percentage of internet downloads?? If there's really no money to be made there, like the higher-ups are claiming, then 2% of nothing is nothing.
isnt this standard? once someone leaves the cast goes too?
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jey's doing the right thing. Writers unite for more compensation!!
Jay is doing the right thing. Writers unite for more compensation!!
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FUCK JAY. HE IS AN ASS KISSING CUNT.
People have to eat. I would fire everyone and start from scracth.
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Re: some ppl have too much time on their hands –
fuck you, I'm a film major, so it's imporant to me. And if you took the time to read it, I'd say you have a lot of time on your hands too. God forbid somebody write something more eloquent than "first". Moron.
MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE STUTTERING JOHN HOST. FUCK JAY LENO THAT MUTHERTFUCKERCOCKSUCKERSHITEATINGPIG!
Lorne Micheals sucks off donkeys in Hell.
I love NBC, but I'll fucking get in touch with them and yell at them if I have to.
Fuck NBC. If I didn't love "30 Rock" and "Scrubs" so much I'd boycott that channel all together.
Why fire the "non-writing staff?" Are they refering to cameramen, gaffs, gophers that sort of thing? That's extortion, if that's the case. If that were me and I got sued because of the writers staff striking, I would sue the shit out of NBC. If they are doing this because these people don't have anything to do at the moment (no show = no work), then they should put them on temporary leave–not fire them. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what is being said though because of the way it is worded: Is he telling the non-writing staff that the writers will be fired if Leno doesn't return? Either way it's extortion, and shouldn't be condoned. That is a very difficult choice for Jay to make, but I just quite a job over bullshit like this, but I didn't make the kind of money Jay makes. It doesn't matter though, if I were Jay, I would still say eff you to NBC because I don't like their unscrupulous tactics!
That's why Leno always says NBC is # 4! How low down and sneaky of NBC. They're making enough money already, not like the writers.
PAY THE STARS LESS AND THE WRITERS MORE!
To poster #1… sure it's not the nonwriters fault but the studio is just being realistic. No writers, no program, no need for staff and crew. Sure, the writers have rights to intellectual property but studios also have to look at their bottom line. Why pay for staff and crew that is not needed?
Wow. NBC is showing it's true colors–it's evil, dirty darkside. I'm really disappointed. I know people in that business can be cruel and heartless, and now they are displaying it for the world to see. NBC sucks! Ellen and Jay rule!
Re: Carla –
No such thing as temporary leave in TV. We work freelance so when there is no show, there are no jobs to be had.
What an incredibly shitty demand to make on Jay. Fuck EEEENBEEECEEE leadership, money grubbing assholes is all they are
BUSINESS IS BUSINESS. THOSE WITH THE MONEY WIELD THE POWER. IF LENO IS SUPPORTING THE WRITERS' DECISION, GOOD FOR HIM AND THEM. CONSIDERING THEIR JOB TAKES MORE CREATIVITY THAN AN ACTOR'S, THEY PROBABLY DESERVE A RAISE (OR ACTORS DESERVE A PAY CUT…LOL). I SAY LENO CALLS NBC'S BLUFF. THEY CAN'T FIRE ALL THOSE PEOPLE BASED ON HIS DECISION- THEY COULD FIRE LENO, BUT NOT THEM. IF THEY DO FIRE ALL THOSE PEOPLE ON STRIKE THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT. ALTHOUGH, WHO KNOWS EVERYONE MIGHT GET FIRED AND NEW WRITERS WILL TAKE OVER. THIS TYPE IOF STRIKE DEFINITELY REQUIRES SUPPORT FROM HIGH-PROFILE PEOPLE.
Re: COCO – go suck cheney's dirty asshole you stupid whore!
fuck Jay, he bits every howard stern bit anyway, plus he's now trying to stay at a job that he said he would give up for Conan…what a prick
Re: Erin – Thanks for explaining that to me. That's too bad tho.' Can they get unemployment at least?
If he refuses to show up for work they should not pay him. He is supposed to be a comedian, can't he come up with ten minutes of lame jokes?
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Fabulous. Guest presenting Jay Leno = stroke of genius. It will be a sounding board for up and coming comics. The same happened in the UK for Have I got News for You - it's doing better now than when it had a regular compere….
Jay has some class, and I am sure he will be thinking about that to do to help his staff. Either way aren't they out of a job come 09?
The deal w/ Leno leaving was one several years ago.
I remember when they said on TV that Conan would "take the show in 5 years"
Well, times almost up!!
By the way, I'm sick of Leno's homophobe joke writer anyway!!!
Shireen:
99% of TV is pure garbage.
99% of sitcoms are mindless drivel.
Have you actually sat through a whole episode of How I met your mother?
Most of the shows are crap, a monkey could write this shit if they had opposable thumbs of course
Freakin unions. We're not in the 20's workin in coal mines. Go to work. Earn your money. Quit blackmailing people into giving you more money for less work. Your performance lately has sucked hard. You should be sucking their dicks for them not cutting your pay in half!
thanks for pointing that out, erin, i was about to do so. yes, ideally nbc would be able to keep everyone on. however, without a show to draw in the necessary revenue, studios are not going to be able to pay the rest of the staff that was hired FOR THAT SHOW. what if the show had been cancelled? would the non-writing staff hired for that show be kept on? doubtful.
it sucks for anyone to be out of a job, but another way to look at it is this: i live in san diego. I assume all of you have heard about or experienced the fires. i work in a lowest-of-the-low position at a corporate store. i missed a scheduled shift because the store closed due to the fires. i was paid for that shift. however, the store was closed for only 2 days and i make only 50 cents above CA min wage. if the store had been closed for weeks due to damage (or, had entirely burned down), i would expect that i'd be out of a job, or at least would not be paid for the time the store was closed (beyond a certain length of time. indeed, i was pleasantly surprised to find i had been paid for that lost shift!).
in neither case - strikes or fires - is it the employee's fault. however, no company can provide compensation or job security indefinitely in the face of cessation of said company's business. there's a reason that, even at the executive level, companies have a limit to paid vacation time.
companies, while they may seem made of money, also have a responsibility to their shareholders (legally). if execs don't act in the best interests (or whatever the applicable legal standard may be) of the business, they risk being sued by shareholders/investors. you can't blame execs for cutting employees that aren't working on something profitable. they could be sued (depending on the structure of the company, which i won't get into here) or fired!
there are so many laws in place to protect so many people. if you were an exec of a company, you would want the same security protestors want. you would need to make everyone happy or risk your job. there's no union for executives. chances are, if the company fails, they lose their jobs, the bottom line falls and they lose their investments in the company (which is likely a huge part of their net worth).
bottom line: everyone in every position is fighting for him/herself, understandably. no matter how much sympathy one may have for the "other side," one's first instinct is to protect one's own ass. so people are blaming the execs/studios and NOT the writers . . . sure, maybe the writers DO deserve more, but the writers are acting JUST LIKE THE STUDIOS. they are trying to protect their asses. should not the writers also be concerned about the non-writing staff?
Re: big G – I agree that a majority of TV is garbage.. nowhere did I mention "How I Met Your Mother" being a good show. Shows like The Office, Scrubs, and 30 Rock, are fucking brilliant and hilarious and anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is most likely an idiot. Also, shows like Late Night with Conan are also worth saving. So, yeah.. I'd say it's more 70/30, and those writers definitely deserve royalties.
This is an utter disgrace. NBC should shut the hell up and give the writers some well-earned residuals for their work.
It is an episode on the internet with advertisements.
It is not a "promotion".
The truth is, Leno was always planning on coming back within 2 weeks, just like Johnny Carson did 20 years ago during the last writers strike. And he did so to save the jobs of the other 99% of his staff. Writers are great and all but there are usually about 5-10 vs. the other 200 members of the crew. Don't the 200 members of the crew deserve to keep their jobs or are we all supposed to go hungry so that the writers get an extra $.04 per download?
You people obviously don't live or work in Hollywood. This is the hollywood publicity machine at work laying the ground work so that when Leno goes back in two weeks, like he's been planning to do this whole time, it will seem like he was "forced" and everyone will think "poor leno".
wake up people, this is all a load of bullshit.
Re: just thinking - and boring you (part 3) – No, not really. I understand what you are saying, and I sympathize with the innocent parties (i.e. the non-writing staff), but this situation is no different than when the cast of Friends held out for more money. Many people stood to lose their jobs because of (IMO) an over-rated ensemble cast's greed. These six people, who made tons of money btw, didn't care about the small players–so why should the writers? Yes, if you are a caring human being, you should care–to some extent. But when you have financial responsibilities, families, etc., you have to consider those things also; it isn't all cut and dry.
Re: Carla – For example: I quit my job last Friday without having another one lined up because my ex-employers were attempting to use manipulative tactics and/or blackmail to try and control me. I have children to support, financial responsibilities, etc., but I quit not only because I was miserable, but because I felt that the way they treat their employees is unfair, demeaning, and in a sense I wanted to take a stand on behalf of my fellow co-workers. On one hand, I felt bad about quitting because I knew that my already overworked, underpaid, and under-appreciated co-workers were going to be expected to work harder to do the extra work my leaving caused. On the other hand I hoped (probably unrealistically) that my quitting would force the powers that be to have that long awaited (and much needed) epiphany. And that they would realize that if they didn't get their shit together and show some appreciation for their over-worked, underpaid, and faithful employees (instead of treating them like children) they would lose even more.
[re=878564]Re: just thinking Yes, there are always more people to take my place and theirs, but training takes time and money; so in essenYes, there se this act that some might consider to be childish on my part, could possibly be detrimental to their ability to function as an enterprise. Also, in my case, the co-workers I left behind supported me 100%, and I can only hope that someday they realise that they do not have to tolerate that sort of behavior from anyone, and I can only surmise that this may be how the non-writing staff at NBC feels also…that they support the writers even though it may jeopardise their own jobs. Hopefully, if they were in that position, the writers would support them too.
So, in an attempt to save people’s jobs and also lure Leno back, NBC is “looking into” the possibility of having guest hosts fill in while Jay is gone.
U said it. How is that shady of NBC? it's shady for $200,000 a year salaried writers to go on strike before the producers and directors planned later in the year. which gave most the staff NBC is both letting go of and not letting go of according to your "blog" no chance to find other employment or plan for the financial hardship ahead. The writers and u dont give a shit about the working calss people or they would give up the 8cents per DVD for someones job or do it the right way as planned.
Is Perez not one of the foremost "Bloggers" trying to become unionized. like REAL writers. It just seems a little bias. No a lot bias.
So, in an attempt to save people’s jobs and also lure Leno back, NBC is “looking into” the possibility of having guest hosts fill in while Jay is gone.
U said it. How is that shady of NBC? it's shady for $200,000 a year salaried writers to go on strike before the producers and directors planned later in the year. which gave most the staff NBC is both letting go of and not letting go of according to your "blog" no chance to find other employment or plan for the financial hardship ahead. The writers and u dont give a shit about the working calss people or they would give up the 8cents per DVD for someones job or do it the right way as planned.
Is Perez not one of the foremost "Bloggers" trying to become unionized. like REAL writers. It just seems a little bias. No a lot bias.
Re: The Truth – So basically you're saying that Jay's on vacation??? Pretty cool of him to use his personal time to pass out doughnuts to the writers. Hell, I'd be in Hawaii fucking some bimbo.
Pretty much. The late night talk shows are just viewing this as another hiatus. look what happened 20 years ago. I believe it was 2 weeks that Carson stayed down. And as soon as he went back, Letterman followed.
No one wants to be the first to go back because they want to appear supportive, but the truth is, they are all planning to resume production, and rightfully so. A large number of people that work on Leno have worked on that show for up to 30 years, most were there since Carson. Do they deserve to lose their jobs? No, I really don't think so.
Good. Leno represents the lamest brain dead shtick in late night history. It would be a blessing in disguise for him to disappear along with the retards that write his garbage.
I can see how repugnicans would side with corporations, but common sense and decency is on the side of the writers.
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Re: Mike Cohan –
That's exactly why not all of us are all gushing with joy that the WGA wouldn't stick it out at the table longer and jumped on the strike train.
What is NBC supposed to do? Shell out money on a show that isn't happening? They do have an obligation to remain as profitable as possible to their shareholders. (many of you who have 401K plans are probably invested in them)
All the agencies have started laying off people and cutting salaries. The rich fighting with the super rich has done nothing but screw the support staff who all make less than $25K per year. Thanks guys.
Fuck NBC, Studios and record labels. WHORES!
Re: Carla – hi carla, that's what i was trying to say, though perhaps not so clearly. what i meant was that everyone can be blamed in this situation; however, everyone also has a reason, i.e. protecting his or her own livelihood, whether they be the actors, execs, writers, non-writers, etc. hopefully all parties can understand one another's needs and work out a solution (though admittedly, this is likely a naive hope).
Sure, employees of NBC, past and present, have found dealing with the company itself such a pleasurable experience. Just ask Howard Stern.
"heart of gold?" how come every time I tune in (TiVo'd for the band, fast-forwarding…) it seems like he has some gay joke in his monologue? Classic H'wood fag basher, Jay Leno = no friend of mine. The show sucks, he's lame, and the "writing" is AWFUL anyway. Hope they're all fat and happy out there.
Oh we're supposd to feel bad for Leno? dont forget he was the one who screwed Carson, Screw'em what comes around goes around.
UM YEAH THATS AGAINST THE LAW SO IT WONT BE HAPPENING.
PEREZ WHERE DID YOU GET THIS LARGE LIE
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ELLEN DEGENERES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS! NBC REALIZE NOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO A SHOW WITHOUT WRITERS THANKS TO ELLEN. NOW, PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF THAT BITCH.
WAY TO GO, ELLEN!
I say fire all of them! You silly cunts, do you not realise how unions are actually the greedy ones in this country ? Unions are what have made your country a shit hole on the globe. This dispute is not about people wanting their so-called 'fair share.' It's merely about greed. Fire all those twats who want to stand in solidarity. Television needs a good cleansing anyway. Do what you people do best, import your bloody culture from another part of the world. Fill the airwaves with programmes from England. Let's face it, your shows are pretty rank.
Considering the obscene amount of money paid to Jay Leno, maybe he could show his REAL solidarity with the union by paying the laid off Tonight Show staff members during the strike. It will never happen. The "stars" are big with the talk but slow to open their wallets.
Good for NBC. Unions play so dirty, especially attacking by bff Ellen, I am glad to see the company stand up to them. The unions are ultimately responsible for the rest of the crew losing their jobs. It is a shame the outdated union organizations control so much.
three different posts, and still no answer. what do the writers want?? besides more $$$$$ which we would all like to have, quriosity states, hey writers, why now?
hey nbc, cds, abc, hey, I will cross the line and write for you!!!!!!!!!!! maybe get a hit show ,huh??
Ellen Degenourous is a writer…duh she is a comedian. So is Jay Leno. These writers have a right to strike, but they cannot force other people that do not correspond with them to follow. The fact is this, there are hungry young talents comming up in hollywood. Hollywood hasn't produced an original Idea, they are all washed up remakes and books. That's why these people are panicking. Hey that's great that they want royalties, but do actors and actress get royalties for the DVD's as well? What about the extras? The Art work people? The editors? Yes, the writers came up with the story but without everyone else its just words on a damn paper. So if they get a raise everyone esle should also. If the get royalties so should the others. The ultimatum is this everyone gets it or no one does, and they fire eveyone who is in breach of contract. Under my understanding the minute you write something and sell your rights, thats it, you get no royalties. READ the FINE PRINT next time simple as that.
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