Another One Joins The Club

Australian rocker Nathan Hudson from the band Faker has come out of the closet!
Says the now publicly out singer: "I'm happy to talk about it, for that kid who's 15 and scared. My association with being gay was that it was bad and dark and not good for you. I had trouble finding people to look up to. I'm talking about this to be a bit freer. It's something that shouldn't matter and, on a lot of levels, it doesn't - I hope the music we make transcends that. Still it's nice to be able to say this stuff.
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who?
first
first
I was blown away…
First? o.o
Cool…good for him.
congrats to him!!
hooray! Welcome to the club!!!
Awesome…he will be a good role-model for young gay boys..hoorah dude!
congrats to him
The club of deviation…
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Man is for woman, woman is for man.
I don't agree with homosexuality, it' s not genetic ( if it was then the gay genes could not be passed on!), it's not natural (man and woman fit together like a lock and key, man/man and female/female do not) and it's not right and you know it.
Awesome…he will be a good role model for the gay youth…hoorah dude!
Awesome…he will be a good role model for the gay youth…hoorah dude!
yummyyyyyyyy
i love gay men!!
that's awesome
Ohh it was obvious lol, thats awesome that he has, I love this band!
I remember being 15 and scared, so this is a very positive thing. This is good news. How ’bout Clay Aiken and Ricky Martin being courageous now?
FIRST!
Good for him!!!
To #11—two men fit together REALLY well physically, in case you don't know! And I have green eyes and both of my parents did not, nor did both sets of grandparents. But I've got 'em. And homosexuality is not a matter of "believing" in it or not. IT IS, has always been, and always will BE. Period. It is in nature as well, so get over yourself.
And the bassist Nic Munnings is gay too….
OMG I HAD NO IDEA! HE STAYED AT MY HOUSE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS!!BUT THAT WAS BEFORE HE CAME OUT.WHATEVER HE IS WELCOME BACK ANYTIME!
These boys are friends of mine and I'm glad that Nathan has finally wanted to dismiss the rumours. He disliked the assumption that he was into girls.
And also, Nic, the bassist, is also gay
Lets just wait for the Australian music industry to shun them now, or British India's tour manager at least… hmmpf.
WHO? What? WHO?
Now back to your regularly scheduled Britney & Lohan programming…
this is sick . homosexuality is a perversion and a sickness that is caused by abuse, just like cancer is caused by smoking. and no one would say that cancer is a good thing would they? it isnt "ok" to be homosexual any more than it is ok to be a molester, serial murderer, bank robber, rapist etc…
this is sick . homosexuality is a perversion and a sickness that is caused by abuse, just like cancer is caused by smoking. and no one would say that cancer is a good thing would they? it isnt "ok" to be homosexual any more than it is ok to be a molester, serial murderer, bank robber, rapist etc…..
this is sick . homosexuality is a perversion and a sickness that is caused by abuse, just like cancer is caused by smoking. and no one would say that cancer is a good thing would they? it isnt "ok" to be homosexual any more than it is ok to be a molester, serial murderer, bank robber, rapist etc……
this is sick . homosexuality is a perversion and a sickness that is caused by abuse, just like cancer is caused by smoking. and no one would say that cancer is a good thing would they? it isnt "ok" to be homosexual any more than it is ok to be a molester, serial murderer, bank robber, rapist etc…….
GOOD FOR HIM…AND HE'S RIGHT RE: THE YOUNG PEOPLE. THE SOONER YOU START TO ACCEPT THAT YOU'RE GAY THE BETTER. IF MY PARENTS HADN'T GOTTEN DIVORCED MY DAD WOULD HAVE FORCED ME TO BE STRAIGHT…AS IF THAT CAN BE DONE. ANY GIRL I WOULD HAVE TRIED WITH WOULD HAVE GOTTEN HURT AND I RESPECT WOMEN TOO MUCH FOR THAT. I'VE BEEN GAY SINCE KINDERGARTEN AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY OUT CELEBRITIES TO LOOK UP TO.
Dan (#20 & #23)
I am embarrassed for you, you sound completely ignorant. What a sad life you must live. Stay off this website if you don't agree with what you read… no one wants to hear your narrow-minded opinion anyway!
Re: Dan –
i hope you realize that not all gay people have AIDS and that straight people can contract it as well. or are you actually THAT stupid??
Never heard…. Still, awsome!!!
Separated at birth: The guy in the green jacket and Michael Lohan. I did a double-take!
Re: paca – wow. people like you are the reason that gay teenage suicide rate is so high.
people don't choose to be gay. why would ANYONE willingly put up with asswipes like you?
paca, the only difference between gay and straight people is what they do in bed. you wouldnt think of what your parents in bed. why would you think about what anyone else does?
lastly, if you're so opposed to gay people, get off this site, or at least dont go around looking for arguments.
I HOPE THE GAYKEN, AND WENTWORTH AND HAYDEN FOR THAT MATTER, PAYS ATTENTION TO THIS THREAD, CAUSE THIS GUY PERFECTLY EXPRESSES WHY GAY CELEBRITIES, ESPECIALLY YOUNG ONES WITH ROLE MODEL POTENTIAL, NEED TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET ! WAY TO GO NATHAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's such a great perspective. Good for him
another confused idiot who saw a Judy Garland movie when he was depressed and decided he was gay after getting blown by that soft ass fag PEREZ. swallow it bitch and don't spit it out in the toilet like that time you did with spotted dick M Jackson.
is a through beating with a wet rope.
Re: paca – AHHHH…I SEE PACA THE PATHETIC 12 YEAR OLD CLOSET PIG IS BACK TO SPEW HIS TYPICAL VENOM. YOU'RE SUCH A MONUMENTALLY BORING JOKE PACA, WHY DON'T YOU RETURN TO USING YOUR FINGERS TO PLEASURE YOUR ANUS, AND QUIT USING THEM TO BORE THE REST OF US HERE. BTW EVERYONE…PACA'S LAST NAME IS PHELPS !
Re: alex –
that is my point–people dont choose to be gay, they are abused into becoming gay. and when freaks like rockstars and perez are openly homosexual that inures society to the sickness of homosexuality and encourages more abuse in the name of "accepting gays". homosexuality needs to be treated like the sickness it is and abuse rates will go down. there is nothing "natural" about being gay any more than there is anything natural about being a serial killer or a rapist or a molester or a molester
I have learned more about gay people in the 2 years i've been reading this site than in my entire life. Who knew gay people were cool?
Perez, you should just go work for Out Magazine. You are so obsessed with who is gay, who hasn't come out, etc., it overrides all the other news on your website. This is just not that big a deal that we have to hear who is out and who isn't EVERY SINGLE DAY. Enough already.
Why the need to announce it? Who cares? Do people come out and announce that they're heterosexual? Keep your sex lives to yourselves. If being gay is what makes you happy, that is your business. It should be between you & your partner.
Re: aquaboogie –
you idiot think about what youre saying. just because you like something about someone doesnt make everything they do ok. would you have said the following:
"I have learned more about serial killers/rapists/molesters/bank robbers in the 2 years i've been reading this site than in my entire life. Who knew serial killers/rapists/molesters/bank robbers were cool? "
Re: paca –
how can you compare physically and emotionally scarring someone by raping them with a guy liking other guys?
obviously you've never been forced into sex, you ignorant asshole.
the way i see it, the only way being gay is a sin is if that gay person becomes (your favourite) a rapist.
shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about.
Yay! I love Faker (an Aussie friend turned me on to them)…I had no idea! Good for him though…they rock, their music needs to be released more over here!
Well done!! Congrats Nathan!! Yay for people no longer being ashamed to be gay!!
"I don't agree with homosexuality, it' s not genetic "
To the girl who said this, I'm sorry you feel this way, but don't think that 10 billion gays and lesbians are going to change their lives just for you. I don't care who was made for who, if the parts fit - and they most certainly do, with a little work - then it's fair game. And it's as genetic as eye colour or hair colour. It doesn't always pass down from generation to generation but it's most definately present in your DNA and will show up at some point in time. Same with homosexuality. You can never predict when it will happen so you better stay alert. All your physical information - eye colour, blood type, sexuality, general health - in contained in your DNA therefore trying to remove it from there would be fatal and deadly to the person concerned. I'm sorry but you're gonna have to put up with it whether you like it or not. That's one of the rules in the game called "Life".
Re: paca –
do you live by a zoo?
or maybe have multiple birds for pets?
or have squirrels nearby, maybe living in your backyard?
if the answer is yes, i want you to watch them. carefully.
in the wild, a percentage of animals ARE gay. and as far as i know, little birdies dont molest each other. you dont need to be abused to be gay.
Why the need to announce it? Who cares? Do heterosexual people announce that they are straight? What happens in the bedroom, should stay there. Keep your private sex lives to yourself and the world will be a much happier place.
Re: Lady –
"I don't agree with homosexuality, it' s not genetic "
To the girl who said this, I'm sorry you feel this way, but don't think that 10 billion gays and lesbians are going to change their lives just for you. I don't care who was made for who, if the parts fit - and they most certainly do, with a little work - then it's fair game. And it's as genetic as eye colour or hair colour. It doesn't always pass down from generation to generation but it's most definately present in your DNA and will show up at some point in time. Same with homosexuality. You can never predict when it will happen so you better stay alert. All your physical information - eye colour, blood type, sexuality, general health - in contained in your DNA therefore trying to remove it from there would be fatal and deadly to the person concerned. I'm sorry but you're gonna have to put up with it whether you like it or not. That's one of the rules in the game called "Life".
Re: wtf? –
of course it is a sin. did you know that every major religion considers it to be unnatural and an abomination akin to bestiality. islam, christianity, judaism, buddhism and hinduism all consider it to be a sin, usually deserving of harsh punishment
Re: Dan –
And let's also hope that the AIDS virus doesn't reach Afrcica. I'd hate to see those millions of young children dying from such a disease way before their time.
Re: Bella –
of course all the trash youre claiming is being made without a shred of scientific proof
Re: Why announce??? Why the need to announce it? Who cares? –
Because it's called "coming out of the closet" and it's the most difficult and also most important thing in a gay person's life. If they don't announce it to the world, then they will be carrying it their grave and that's very harmful and dangerous to them. They don't want to live a lie forever. It's our responsibility to be understanding and helpful towards them.
Re: paca –
Oh but there is. The American Psychiatric Association stated ackin the 1950's that homosexuality is not a disease. Gay people have absolutely nothing wrong with them, physically or mentally. It's bigots like you who label it as "wrong" so you can bully them and push them around for your own personal gratification.
Re: alex –
that is another common BIG LIE FROM THE GAY AGENDA PLAYBOOK. birds, fish, mammals, insects etc DO NOT engage in hoosexual behavior, that is a lie the homosexual movement invented to justify their perverted behavior
..I already knew this.
Also I saw them yesterday.
Gay people rule. I love them. I wish I was gay.
It'd be a challenge. Paca hows that cock youre sucking.
J
John Mayer should be next.
Re: paca – That's bullshit. Only Semitic religions - Christianity, Islam and Judaism - see it as sinful, but what do they know?? Buddhism and Hinduism say NOTHING about homosexuality as sinful, and whatever you may have read was written by human men, not gods. I know this because my mother follows Hinduism and I've done a lot of reserch on it. If anything, Hinduism encourages sexual pleasure as essential to human life while Christianity, Islam and Judaism forbif it along with homosexuality. But none of those religions are any match for real issues in the real world.
Re: Bella –
oh you mean the group that endorsed lobotomy for decades? the same group that labelled blacks intellectually inferior?
Re: paca – Oh yes, animals certainly engage in gay sex whenever they feel the need and humans have been engaging in gay sex for centuries WITHOUT any justification from anybody. The only difference is, we find it unsettling because bigots like you have invented words like "perversion" and "immoral" so can label us with them like jars and humiliate and bully us to satisfy your own selfishness and hatred, whereas animals accept each other and don't give each other a hard time for it. Learn from them, you goddamn Nazi.
Gay people rock!!
Paca I'm str8 and don't believe in religion. So, if I don't believe in Jesus Christ
I don't care what you think is a sin cause' I don't.
They are nice people and honestly I love em'.
J
Re: Bella –
sorry but youre just uneducated. in hindu society homosexuals are part of the "third sex" and are shunned from society. homosexuality in buddhism is considered so unnatural that they dont dare come out of the closet in that society at all. if you support homosexuality personally just admit it but dont lie about what others think
Never even heard of the stupid fag or his band
Re: paca – Yes. Atleast they changed their minds on some issues and took back their words. Why are you using their mistakes to justify your selfish hatred and bigotry?? Do you think you're better than gays just because you rape women instead of men?
Sweet Fancy Moses! I can't believe a guy nobody ever heard of hearts cock!
Now now class, Paca isn't quite ready to come out of the closet himself.
He'll get there one day.
Re: Bella –
if you beat a child to the point that he grows up to be a violent monster himself i think anyone woud say that person has a psychiatric problem regardless of what any psychiatric association has said since the 1950's. the same goes for homosexuality. if a child is molested into becoming a homosexual, that doesnt mean there isnt something psychological wrong with him, no matter what psychologists say. their labels have more to do with thier inability to cure a sickness. usually homosexuals are so psychologically damaged that psychiatrists cant cure them, but that doesnt mean they arent sick. psychiatrists usually cant cure rapists, molesters and serial killers either, but you dont see them labelling those disorders to be normal. use your head you retarded bitch
He reminds me of another Aussie, Nathan, I know. Hope that means he'll come out now. I love Noonday Underground, he knew that. Funny how Alicia Keys hacked that from my computer and now they have The Light Brigade as the theme for the British series No Angels. Guess she's going to claim Binder and Krieglstein's "Angels" off their Trip CD is hers too.
Alicia is THE GIMP. No One can stop Alicia….hey want to bet? Diary of Alicia Keys- the gimp bat out of hell.
Re: paca – I'm uneduated?? Which one of us is the bigot here?? Forgive me for being mature enough to love and accept people regardless of who they are. In India, homosexuality is a SOCIAL issue, not a religion one, and it's slowly changing And in Buddhist places too. It's all one big social hierarchy and gays are get to find a place for themselves in it. But don't you worry. They will soon. It's just a matter of time. The gays are a strong bunch, paca. They've survived for centuries together and they continue to survive even longer.
Re: paige – I certainly hope so. Maybe he just needs our help.
Re: Julien –
you dont have to be religious to realize homosexuality is a sickness. you know some serial killers, bank robbers and molesters are "nice people " but does that make their behaviors ok with you?
the new album in Aust has absolutely stiffed,… really really stiffed (excuse the pun!) No better way to drum up some much needed publicity hey. Personally, they live up to their name.
Re: paca if a child is molested into becoming a homosexual, that doesnt mean there isnt something psychological wrong with him, no matter what psychologists say. –
Whp says every homosexual was a molested child? Who says every homosexual molests children? There is absolutely no connection between the two. For your information, every adult who has been molested as a child deals with it differently. Some see a psychiatrist, some commit suicide, some write songs about it and move on and some become child molesters themselves because through personal experience, that is the only remotely sexual behaviour they know how to replicate. I know thousands of gays who were NEVER molested as children and who had perfectly happy childhoods too. Don't you judge the whole tree just because of a few sour apples. Your hatred and self-loathingwill be your demise. Either come out of the closet or stay in there forever and leave us alone. And you can't compare gays to serial killers or rapists or child abusers because those people LIVE to destroy live as their aim, whereas gays don't. All they want is to just be themselves and do what they come naturally, like havin sex, which does not harm anyone. I'm not trying to change your mid because I know I cannot do it nor are you capable of it. If you can just address the demons that are plagueing your mind every day, you'll be doing yourself a huge favour. And I'll use my head if you use your heart.
Re: Bella –
so i suppose that to you im also a bigot because i dont approve of serial killers, bank robbers and molesters? you are just plain stupid and wrong. hindus dont approve of gays and neither do buddhists, its that simple. i understand you approve of them, but that doesnt mean the rest of the world does or has to.
Re: paca – That's because serial killers, bank robbers and molesters all have one goal - to take things that are not theirs at any cost, even if it means destroying lives in the process. Homosexuals don't wish to do either. All they want is to just live and do the things that they want WITHOUT harming anybody but unfortunately, bigots like you are much to selfish to let that happen. Very sad.
Re: paca – PACA you disgusting SLIME. How dare you call others uneducated when your are BLATANTLY the STUPIDEST PIG on these threads. And you don't know shit about Hinduism or Budism, so shut the fuck up about them you backwoods inbred christian retard. YOUR CONTINUOUS HOMOPHOBIC RANTS on these threads prove without doubt that you are a SELF HATING QUEER desoerate to make others hate themselves as much as you hate yourself. So stick your stinking fingers right back up your ass, where you normally keep them, you TOTAL FUCK WAD, and pray to your make believe god that someone doesn't find you and kick the living shit out of you ! YOU CERTAINLY DESERVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: paca – How many serial killers, murderers and child molesters have you seen marching the streets with big banners demanding their rights?? If your answer is anything more than 50 or 60, THEN will talk about it. And hindus and buddhists do it on a SOCIAL basis, not a religious one. If you wish to hate people, that's fine, "but that doesnt mean the rest of the world does or has to." - Your own words, paca.
Re: Bella –
you re right in that abused people do deal with it in different ways. some will become serial killers, others alcoholics, molesters, druggies and some may even become messed up heterosexuals. but that still doesnt make homosexuality ok. you claim there are thousands of homosexuals that say they werent abuse and became gay anyway. how do you know that? of course they arent going to admit it, that would go against their agenda of convincing society that their behavior is natural and that they were born like that. also many severely abused people have repressed memories of traumatic experiences. but the effects are obvious. in your case it takes teh form of vitrioloc man hatred and compulsive support of perverts
Re: GAY WARRIOR QUEEN – Don't worry, GWQ. Slimeballs like him will get what's coming to them when the time comes. He's be reborn as a rat in his next life, THEN he'll know what it to be disgusting, dirty and hated by EVERYONE who looks at him.
Re: Bella –
youre just plain wrong. religion is the basis of hindu and buddhist societies and you can bet that is the reason those societies dont approve of homosexuality. sorry you dont like the truth. i dont agree that gays "do the things that they want WITHOUT harming anybody". they want to mainstream their perversion and sickness. why do you think this rockstar wants to "talk about it, for that kid who's 15". he wants to get his grubby hands on a kid so he can do what was done to him and spread the perversion. do you call having obscene parades molesting kids and drilling holes in bathroom walls "not harming anyone"? the problem is that you dont accept the harm they are doing as bad.
Re: paca – I've observed your comments on many threads for quite some time now, Paca, and frankly you come across as stupid, bitter, and incredibly self loathing. You're only going to find ridicule here young man (and I'm assuming you're an extremely young man, as the way in which you rant indicates it) because your posts are hopelessly misinformed and your attitude's completely intolerant. I actually feel quite sorry for you. It's clear from what you display of yourself here, that you have no friends, and no abilities to make any. What a shame. Why don't you admit to yourself that you're a complete homosexual, stop hating yourself, and find a nice gay chat room full of others who share your same issues. I think it would do you a world of good.
Re: Bella –
not to mention spreading deadly diseases like aids, drug resistant staph, herpes, etc…
paca
how many heterosexuals have you interviewed about their supposed abuse?
Responding to Paca is useless. He/she is either obsessive (and slightly delusional) or intentionally goading people for kicks. Either way - you can't win against him/her and you run the risk of looking like a fool for trying.
On the original topic: I have no idea who that guy is, but congratulations anyway. Must be tough in certain circles in the music industry.
Re: Bella – Considering his own self loathing, Paca is already a rat in my opinion. A pathetic closeted insecure bitter rat, at that. It was bad enough when he spewed simple hate, but now he's trying to pass himself off as some kind of expert on religion, and REALLY making a fool out of himself. SO, I think dear little Paca will come back as a cockroach…no I take back because that's insulting to cockroaches…he'll come back as a common house fly !
Re: The Lurker –
sorry to disappoint you but i am not stupid, bitter, self loathing or male. and it is very intolerant of you to label me such just because i dont approve of your lifestyle. i actually feel quite sorry for you that you refuse to get help for you illness
Re: paca but that still doesnt make homosexuality ok. –
It does because not ALL homosexuals are like that. If we judged people that way, then every single man and woman would be hated and loathed because there are thousands of straight men with wives and children who molest children and I'm sure you've heard the story about the teacher who slept with a student and got pregnant by him. Does that make heterosexuality okay?? How do we know the above heterosexuals have't done anything to convince society that THEY'RE normal? "Of course they arent going to admit it, that would go against their agenda of convincing society that their behavior is natural and that they were born like that." - your words again, paca. You cannot judge the whole tree based on a few sour apples. It's the media that have invented this "gay agenda" bullsit to make them look bad when really, it's the bigots who invented this so-called agenda to make it look like they're out to terrorise society when all they want to do is just LIVE. It's not the gays that have an agenda with society, it's the society that has the agenda against gays. You must be really gullible if you will believe whatever slop is dished out to you.
Re: tiff –
i never said heterosexuals cant have been abused. clearly there are some that have, if you look at the number of alcoholics, druggies, rapists etc… in society. but that doesnt mean it is ok to be gay
Re: paca – But hindu and budhist religion does not mention homosexuality anywhere like the Semitic religions. What this guy means is, he's doing it for the millions of 15-year-old kids who might be struggling with their sexuality. And why must he go after a an immature 15-year-old when he can get himself a REAL mature man?? And why are you allowed to carry on your perversion of hatred and bigotry while everyone else has to do your bidding? If gays really did molest children, thangay pride parades wold be banned by now. And calling me wrong proves nothing other than the fact that you're so desperate to hold onto your hatred that you'll stop at nothing to justify your deep, dark, disgusting hatred for a certain group of people. Sorry but nobody's buying it.
Oh come on! I'm from Dublin Ireland and know that Nathan from Faker is gay. Is this new information?! Great band though, love Addicted Romantic.
And love you Perez! x
paca
how many homosexuals have you interviewed about their supposed abuse?
Re: paca – Oh so you're female are you ? What's the matter dear ? Did you lose your fella to another man ? Is that why you make such a sad pathetic fool of yourself on these threads ? Well…when I assumed you were male, I suggested a little self help. Now that I know you're female…I think you better get professional help, because your obviously a terribly bitter and misguided creature. You poor poor dear.
……OH POOR POOR PACA. FAT, SILLY, VULGAR, SELF-HATING, PATHETIC PACA. WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE HIDDEN AWAY IN YOUR OWN LITTLE WORLD AND JUST WANT TO BE NOTICED. SO THERE….WE NOTICE YOU. ALL FULL OF NASTY WORDS AND SILLY CONDEMNATION. WE KNOW YOU FEEL SO AWFUL ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOU JUST WANT TO DIE. WE ALL WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR VERY SICK MIND. THOSE WHO KNOW YOU AREN'T OFFENDED ANY MORE. THEY JUST FEEL A LITTLE SORRY FOR YOU KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND HAVE TO COME TO THIS BOARD AND INSULT FAMOUS PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO MEAN SOMETHING TO THE WORLD, SO THAT SOMEONE WILL NOTICE POOR PITIFUL YOU. YOU COME TO A SITE OWNED BY A HOMOSEXUAL AND YOU REALLY, SECRETLY ARE SO JEALOUS. YOU ENVY AND WORSHIP BIG GAY PEREZ. WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CANNOT HELP YOURSELF. POOR, POOR NASTY PACA.
Re: Bella – youre unknowingly making my point. no one would say that because a hetersexual teacher is "nice" that that would make everything she does ok, such as screwing a 9 year old. but iunfortunately that is the reasoning people use to justify homosexuality. because perez is funny, or giorgio armani designs nice clothes or because magic johnson scores 40 points, these are not reasons to approve of homosexuality in general right? please top lying to everyone including yourself. you approve of homosexuality yourself because it is convenient in your life to do so
Re: paca – You can say whatever you want paca, but I am a string and faithful believer in karma, and your karma will eventually catch up to you and will not let you get away without making you pay your debt. And you will pay a very heavy debt when you find yourself as a house fly, cockroach or street rat in your next life. And when you do, you will regret every single word that you have said on this screen. But it'll be too late because your biggest goel will be to get that scrap of food before someone crushes you with their Jimmy Choo's or smites you with a can of Mortein.
Re: Bella –
so i see youve opted out of debating and discussing and have totally resorted to insults at this point which is typical of your type
Re: paca – PACA…The only one ILL on this thread is you. Tell me, does the P in Paca stand for PHELPS ?…because you sound exactly like that blithering idiot Sister Shirley. And it's obvious from all the post here by others who despise you, that you're just about as popular, and taken just about as seriously as she is. YOU ARE ONE DUMB COW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!