What If…
Filed under: Barack Obama > Hillary Clinton
Being in D.C. and at the White House Correspondent's Dinner has got us thinking….
Florida and Michigan NEED to be counted in the Democratic presidential nominee selection process!
There HAS to be a revote in each state!
So, the question is: who will fund it?????
Well….
What if Bill Gates fronted the money, which would cost way less than $50 million for both states????
And, if not Bill Gates, then Ron Burkle or some other billionaire???
Somebody needs to STEP UP TO THE PLATE for democracy and make sure that the voters in Florida and Michigan are heard!!!
The voters should not have to pay the price for the mistakes their state party leaders made!!!!!!!!
Posted: April 27, 2008 at 2:37 am
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Why? There were rules set by the DNC and their states decided not to follow them. Tough shit, their votes shouldn't count because they want to change the rules in the middle of the game.
GORE 08!
i will do it bitch
Yeah, good luck with that…
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first. and no, they should not be counted. they f-ed up and must pay the price.
They were already heard. They said,"We are a bunch of fucktards that don't want to be heard."
How about NO since they broke the rules?
Stop it with your wishful thinking
So what if Hillary wins does that mean when Chelsey runs next she can claim 12 years experience in the white house. Hillary Clinton is shady corrupt and power hungry dike in a pant suit. When Florida chose to move up their election they agreed as did the candidates their votes would not count toward delegates so just deal with it. Sore losers!! Go Barack Obama
NO! Stoop trying to change the rules to fit your desired outcome. They agreed beforehand that those votes would not be counted and that's it and that's that. I hate sore fucking losers and those who try to change the rules of the game in the middle of it cause they are losing. What kind of example does that set as the POTUS? Fuck that shit.
And who the hell are you to spend somebody else's money? Bill Gates doesn't owe HIllary Clinton or the old fuckwads in Florida anything. Get a grip and get your hands out his pockets.
Just because you are a follower and HRC does not mean the rules need to be broken to satisfy. They should not be counted. You can all see Perez is a HRC follower and they have done nothing for gays of color in this country.
perez you're a fucking idiot don't talk about politics EVER. you dont understand this situation at all and your endorsement of hilary makes your opinion completely biased an therefore unworthy of the attention you will undoubtedly receive for it, as you do for everything you write. the democrats all made a decision to PUNISH florida and michigan. just because it is a close race does not mean that the democrats need to go back on their word. this logic is completely irrational. and furthermore, why the fuck should bill gates be the one to fund this? why does he care? the bill and melinda gates foundation was created to aid real causes and make the world a better place, not to add to an already ridiculously convoluted 'democratic' process and a drawn-out primary season which is tearing the democratic party apart.
The states should pay for it themselves. They knew the rules. They still decided to go forth with their pointless election.
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
I would fund..but I'm broke!! GO HILLARY! Glad u had fun Perez
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
It already happened - people offered to pay for it out of pocket. I know Carville was one, I don't remember who the other was. Anyway, the DNC turned the offer down from what I understand. Apparently Obama fans think he can get by without Florida and Michigan in the general election, because those voters know who wants them counted and who doesn't, and if the Obama people have their way, say goodbye to FL and MI and the next 8 years. More repubs in the whitehouse…sigh.
Perez:
Hillary supporters such as James Carville and many others (backing her) have been saying FOR MONTHS that they themselves will pay for Florida and Michigan. But Obama is AGAINST it. And even if Obama gets the nomination…the chances of him getting elected are slimmer without FL and Mi. So he's kicking himself in the ass by saying to leave it alone. She's doing it the smart way to try to protect the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. and Obama is thinking for himself. He wants those pledged delegates and thats it. And the rules were set by a Republican Congress and then had to be set forth a particular way by the DNC. Thank you Republicans.
Bill Gates has enough power in the United States…and when he wants a law or motion brought up..he already gets first dibs. I wouldnt give him any more power. POLITICIANS ALREADY COMPLAIN ABOUT HIM. read up on him before looking only at his money and thinking its the quickest and easiest option. Hillary supporters have already offered to pay for it.
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
OBAMA DOESNT WANT THOSE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE WILL LOSE. ED RENDELL AND OTHER HILLARY FANS AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. OBAMA REFUSED. GO HILLARY 08
GO HILL
Goodnight Hillary….Bedtime for Lezbo
several individuals, including those with hillary's campaign offered to pay for the whole re-count–this was widely reported. but the powers that be said no.
You're so ignorant, Perez. Really, go back to HS. Who cares what you think beyond bitchy comments about Hollywood freakshows anyway?
the people that offered to pay for it are former goldman sachs chairman and ceo jon corzine, who is the current governor of new jersey, and pundit/media personality/political consultant james carville. the money is there perez, obama just hates democracy.
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
Go to Hillaryclinton.com and pledge to have the votes counted! HILL 08
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Billionares should not have to pay for the mistakes that the idiot state party leaders made. The state party leaders should pay for it out of their own pockets!
………OK PEREZ…………. I know that i am not the only one….. but, One thing people will NEVER accuse you of is " PROOF READING "………. So, English wasn't your BEST subject, and yet you call your self a " JOURNALIST " "QUEEN OF ALL MEDIA" and you have no idea what the concept of "PROOF READING " is. I have to read some of your sentences, 2 and 3 times dude to figure out what in hell you are trying to say. It only takes a few minutes. I guess you are that busy ? ? Or ok, You just figure " WE" can figure out what you are saying… *LOL* whatever ! ! !
………OK PEREZ…………. I know that i am not the only one….. but, One thing people will NEVER accuse you of is " PROOF READING "………. So, English wasn't your BEST subject, and yet you call your self a " JOURNALIST " "QUEEN OF ALL MEDIA" and you have no idea what the concept of "PROOF READING " is. I have to read some of your sentences, 2 and 3 times dude to figure out what in hell you are trying to say. It only takes a few minutes. I guess you are that busy ? ? Or ok, You just figure " WE" can figure out what you are saying… *LOL* whatever ! ! !
Do you guys realize that people with money want Republicans cuz they pay less taxes?
Well said as usual. As MI voter, I'd be willing to do just about anything not to be disenfranchised due to the "leaderships" stupid choices.
It's is utterly WRONG for 2 states worth of people not to be heard. I know there is a grassroots discussion going on in MI that people are going to en mass refuse to pay fed. tax unless we are counted.
well, perez, its time you shut the fuck up and face the facts that hillary is not getting this nomination, no matter how hard her compaign tries to steal it from obama. the delegates are going to be seated at the convention, howard dean has said that he's going to make sure of it, but they're going to split them down the middle, as they should, thus not giving either candidate an advantage. the people who voted that day KNEW what they were doing was wrong and they have to pay the price. i mean, it was no secret what the reprecussions would be for moving the primaries ahead, but michigan and florida felt like they were above the DNC and did it anyway. well, they have to pay the price and that includes not being able to throw their weight behind either candidate. oh, and by the way, obama's name wasn't even on the michigan ballot.
Epic! I am sad to say it, but if you could help make this idea hit the mainstream… I would love you with my mouth forever!
perez you are an idiot….stick to gossip its what you are good at I hate all this other shit you are trying to sell
Neither should Bill Gates, you douche!
The DNC KNEW what they were doing.Those two states didn't follow the rules, they lost out. Period.
Wow - first you're a Clinton support then you're Obama when all the stars start making music about him, and now your peddling back to Clinton when she's starting to win. You really shouldn't make political comments if you don't have a backbone in the first place. You should fire that political commentary intern you hired cause s/he's making you look like a damn fool. Sure, let's privatize our elections and see where that brings us in the future. Keep with the stupid shit that entertains us and start reading the paper before making political comments. Who the fuck is even on this right now?
Yeah, it's not Obama's fault that Michigan & Florida aren't counted either, no matter what Billary want you to beleive. Rules are rules and she agreed to it… when she was leading.
I dont want ANOTHER liar in the white house, Go Obama!
Latinos for Obama!
Gays for Obama!
Enough money has been devoted to intra-party squabbling. It is tearing the democratic party apart at a time when the democrats have the potential to (1) solidify a majority in congress and (2) win the presidency. Should more money be spent, it should be concentrated on countering republicans, not a primary contest which is becoming increasingly nasty.
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Bill and Melinda Gates, and others endowed with immense sums of money should spend their money on real causes, such as fighting HIV, tuberculosis and malaria, closing the gender gap in poverty, investing in water resource development and supplying food to those affected by the global rise in food prices due to increased allocation of agricultural space to biofuel crop production.
A presidential race is indeed important, but this is just getting fucking ridiculous. These two candidtates should not be encouraged to continue. This is why the democrats keep losing: party leadership can never get their shit together!
Yeah, it's not Obama's fault that Michigan & Florida aren't counted either, no matter what Billary want you to beleive. Rules are rules and she agreed to it… when she was leading.
I dont want ANOTHER liar in the white house, Go Obama!
Latinos for Obama!
Gays for Obama!
Yeah, it's not Obama's fault that Michigan & Florida aren't counted either, no matter what Billary want you to beleive. Rules are rules and she agreed to it… when she was leading.
I dont want ANOTHER liar in the white house, Go Obama!
Latinos for Obama!
Gays for Obama!
Yeah, it's not Obama's fault that Michigan & Florida aren't counted either, no matter what Billary want you to beleive. Rules are rules and she agreed to it… when she was leading.
I dont want ANOTHER liar in the white house, Go Obama!
Latinos for Obama!
Gays for Obama!
Yeah, it's not Obama's fault that Michigan & Florida aren't counted either, no matter what Billary want you to beleive. Rules are rules and she agreed to it… when she was leading.
I dont want ANOTHER liar in the white house, Go Obama!
Latinos for Obama!
Gays for Obama!
I totally disagree with Perez and agree with many of the responses posted here. The DNC set the rules - Florida and Michigan went outside of the rules and must now deal with the consequences. Being someone who is from Michigan it is unfortunate that my family and friends will not have their votes counted but they understand and if anything are upset at the MI politicians who went outside of regulations. I think that it would not only be wrong but also completely disrespectful to all of the other states that stayed the course and held their primaries accordingly. Furthermore, to suggest that Bill Gates - who uses his money to donate to HIV/AIDS projects - should pony up the cash to host another primary is ridiculous. Its a primary not a general election - so lets keep this in perspective. To allocate funds for another primary - when nearly a US$500,000 million has already been spent - would be a smack in the face to other states and a big waste of money. How about using such funds instead to go to some of the serious issues that people in Michigan and Florida are dealing with such as deteriorating schools and communities.
It is a shame that our votes in Florida won't count. I agree that taxpayers should not be responsible for any mistake. Sometimes, it feels as though Florida is such an uninformed and irresponsible state. It makes me, a Floridian, ashamed to be a part of such a corrupt state.
We spend so much money on meaningless expenditures, but, as I graduate from college with a teaching degree next week, the budget for education has depleted. Teachers are losing jobs, and the job market (unfortunately, it's still a business) has gone down the gutter for aspiring teachers like myself. It's sad… I hate it… What's a girl to do? The only thing I can do is move to another state…
Florida's beautiful, but the government is definitely not.
Yeah. It's real easy to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money isn't it?
Your party leaders are the idiots who moved the primaries up in violation of your own party rules, causing this whole mess, in the first place. Your party has shown incompetence in this matter. I don't really want members of that party running the country as well when they can't even run their own party. While you may be able to call George Bush incompetent, you can't legitimately and genuinely say the same about McCain. McCain in '08.
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Unfortunately it would be completely unfair to count them. It may not be fair to the voters, but it would be a more drastic unfairness if we allowed it after the rules were knowingly broke by the states. NO VOTES… rules were broken, done. Many states didn't get all their votes in (like Texas) because of how messed up the polls were - they won't get a new vote either. Sorry but you can't do a recount or this entire election would be a huge joke.
Let it go, Perez. Your horse is running but is too far behind.
That's not how the system works, Perez. I'm in FL, and I voted dem, and I don't think our votes should be counted. That'd just be hypocritical and set a HORRIBLE standard if the DNC goes back and changes their minds. FL already appealed to have their votes counted, and they changed their dates anyway after a rejection. FL knew what they were getting into.
Perez, you obviously don't understand democracy because you keep calling for a revote.
"The voters should not have to pay the price for the mistakes their state party leaders made!"
That's EXACTLY what democracy is. You elect people that you think can represent what you want. If those people screwed up, you screwed up because you voted for them, that's how democracy works. Saying that they shouldn't have to pay for the mistakes the leaders they elected made is just stupid and shows a lot of ignorance for the system this country is run under.
Perez, every time you open your mouth you show just how little you know about the world … How perezciousssss you are!! /sarcasm off
When a citizen of the US votes for their representative they are giving that rep. the right to make decisions for them as a community. When, the reps of Florida and Michigan denied to follow rules, they let those voters down.
The solution is not to recount the votes but to vote these reps out of office in the next election. The voters must take it upon themselves to ensure that their leaders do not let them down by voting these leaders out.
Cmon, let's use that money to fund new schools, health care, hunger, alternative energy sources. Why change the rules now? It was set up before the primaries began and the amount of money wasted on them is insulting. Perez stop being attempting to be knowledgeable and stick to the gossip. You are stepping into turf you have no idea about.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, PEREZ!!!
STEP UP TO THE PLATE, MR. GATES!!!
Re: John – YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: themexcellentone – OH - SO SCREW MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA? REAL NICE. TYPICAL WORRIED OBAMA SUPPORTER. OBAMA DOESN'T WANT THE VOTES COUNTED BECAUSE HE'LL LOSE! LAST I CHECKED, THE STATES OF MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA WERE IMPORTANT!
The revote was offered to be funded. BARack and his shady team stopes it!!! So much for NEW politics. I live in Florida and I will never vote for obama because of this shit.
I love you Perez! U look good!
Re: Kevin Rudd – You seriously need therapy for your HATE issues.
The idiots who broke their party's rules and moved their states primaries up should have to pay.
They should also be fired or voted out of office ( which ever applies ).
NOTICE HOW HATEFUL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE?! HATERS, HATERS, HATERS. THEY'RE WORRIED DEEP DOWN INSIDE THAT HILLARY WILL HAVE MORE VOTES IF THERE IS INDEED A FAIR RECOUNT. END OF SUBJECT.
Re: Adrianna –
speak for youself. I am gay and we love Hillary! Latinos love Hillary too! The voted for her in mass numbers! Haha
Fuck that.
They went to the polls KNOWING their votes wouldn't count.
It would be a total injustice to completely re-do this so late in the game when it was done with all participants well aware.
A baseball game cannot become table tennis in the 7th inning.
oh my days - stop whining! you've expressed your opinion, everyone knows what you think - stop trying to use perezhilton.com to exert political influence, its not fair! why should the fact that you have this website mean your lack of satisfaction with the 'democratic process' be heard above the rest of the gen pop. it makes an already shady method of election even more deplorable when media outlets, the self-proclaimed "queen of all media" is able to control things. chill - if the rest of the population agree with you - let them take action!
Right On P-ez…Clinton for Pres…cuz i sux!
It doesn't matter. DIEBOLD decides who will be President, NOT the People, silly. Viva la Fascisme!
IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!! DIEBOLD decides who will be President, NOT the PEOPLE, silly. Viva la Fascisme!
IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!! DIEBOLD decides who will be President, NOT the PEOPLE, silly. Viva la Fascisme!!
WOW, YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP HILARY STEAL THE ELECTION
NO DO NOT COUNT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN CAUSE THEN ALL THE HOMOSEXUAL VOTES WILL COUNT. GAYS SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE. IF YOU DONT ACT LIKE A MAN WHY SHOULD YOU RECEIVE THE SAME VOTE AS A MAN. ALSO BLACKS SHOULDNT GET A FULL VOTE EITHER, MAYBE 2/5 OF A VOTE
Why should someone have to pay just because Michigan and Florida thought all the rules didn't apply to them? If they can't follow the rules, then they're too damn stupid to be allowed to vote!!
Doesn't anyone remember that hanging chad fiasco?? And look what happened when they ended up giving the election to bush? Shit!
Screw Florida and Michigan. Let it be a lesson learned for next election. Follow the damn rules, like everyone else. Not so funny now, huh? Moving up the primary date. Idiots!
NO DO NOT COUNT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN CAUSE THEN ALL THE HOMOSEXUAL VOTES WILL COUNT. GAYS SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE. IF YOU DONT ACT LIKE A MAN WHY SHOULD YOU RECEIVE THE SAME VOTE AS A MAN. ALSO BLACKS SHOULDNT GET A FULL VOTE EITHER, MAYBE 2/5 OF A VOTE….
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