You'll Have To Go To Chinatown From Now On
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eBay is in some deep trouble!
Yesterday, a French court ordered eBay to pay almost $40 million euros (over $60M US) in damages to Louis Vuitton for allowing the sale of fake LV items.
The court has now stopped eBay from selling four kinds of perfumes, which are Givenchy, Christian Dior, Guerlain, and Kenzo.
They will also not be allowed to sell six LVMH brands.
The court determined that eBay had committed "serious errors" by allowing the sales of fake LVMH goods.
They also said eBay violated the perfume sales distribution network, which was setup by Louis Vuitton and Christian Dior Couture.
Of course, eBay said they are going to launch an appeal, believing the court did not uphold copyright law.
A spokesperson for eBay has said, "This decision is not based on combating counterfeit material. It is based on LVMH's desire to protect its commercial practices and exclude competition. This is being done at the expense of the consumers and sellers to whom eBay is always offering opportunities."
Hmmm. They have a point!
The case, which started a year and a half ago, stated that eBay knowingly allowed the sales of counterfeit products on its site.
The court also issued eBay a cease and desist order preventing it from running ads for the perfume and cosmetic brands. If they don't oblige, they'll face a fine of 50,000 euros per day, over $78K.
Gosh. Why can't they run ads??? That seems a tad excessive, no???
A rep for LVMH says, "It is a major first because of the principles that it recognizes and the amount sought."
What do U think?
First… and this is stupid. I can't afford the real thing!
FIRST!!!!!
they are cheaper in china town any way. haha
come to toronto we have a LV store at our mall lol
I only carry the real thing.
Who cares, louis bags are so 2000 any ways. Jessica simpson made them not fun to carry anymore especially with her stupid dog in them.
Ebay will win I love ebay!
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Poor LV! They are the rediculous in fighting this!
Im with LV on this one. All the way. Fuck the fake shit.
Go Louis Vuitton.. they're only protecting their products!
Who the HELL cares?
Ebay doesnt sell stuff - sellers that use ebay sell stuff.. sheesh!
LV is a boring, does anyone really care about this?
louis vuitton is tacky, tacky~~~~~~
Good! No one should be allowed to sell knock offs on ebay!
ebay>LV by far.
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Your LV bags are UGLY anyways. It's a JOKE to the rest of us when you carry these cheap, fakes.
this is stupid, if anything LV should request money made from those sales to go to them, like they need any more money, pleaseeee
I agree with ebay.
What's the difference anyway? LVMH manufactures most of the good in China anyway. Why pay that much from something Made in China?
who cares?
either they make louis vuitton cheaper, or they let ebay sell this
Ebay does not allow u to sell fakes.. believe me, i tried… they do all that they can to stop people from selling fakes…
LVHM are assholes!
even if you have a real LV, it ends up looking fake since EVERYONE has em. same with those chanel quilted bags.
there are tons of brands that design bags that are actually creative.
baaaaah goes the sheep.
i agree with ebay. who cares if they're selling fakes! the real ones are too pricey for most consumers anyway. isn't the name still getting out?
I do not feel sorry for lvmh, they only cater to the rich, so normal hard working people cannot afford them. they are rich beyond their wildest dreams, so go cry a river somewhere else!
dumb! i cant afford the real thing, and its not like its going to hurt their actual base of consumers, they wouldnt be caught dead with a fake.
agree with LV. Fake things are ridiculous and especially so, when you think you're buying the real thing. I would not wear a fake thing for no money, if I can't afford it, I will buy a cheaper brand.
LV needs to get it right and sue the Ebay SELLERS who are SELLING the fake shit. Don't kill the messenger.
Thats not fair, Ebay cant inspect every product that folks put up for sale. If anything, go after the individuals selling the fakes. NOt ebay. This lawsuit sux.
serves eBay right. If you have been keeping up with their news lately, they are slowly trying to drive out smaller sellers with their new "feedback" and policy changes. Supposedly they want to only keep the power sellers, and a lot of those power sellers sell knockoffs. A lot of people are leaving ebay, and they are now trying to get everyone to come back by sending email after email with all these "deals" and "specials." They are not above the law.
Sorry but I'm with LVMH on this one, there are copyright laws out there for a reason. Ebay should have exercised stricter business regulations if it expects to run a global empire.
The fakes are made by children in some of the poorest of working conditions in Asia. Don't go to Canal St either….go buy the best you can in your price range! Do you want to fund illegal activities for an ugly fake that will fall apart in a month?
I actually bought one of these fake LV bags thinking it would be authentic. It was a complete fake and advertised as real. It makes me question a lot of things on Ebay. I'm not really sure where I stand on the issue but just be aware that things aren't always what they say they are.
Folks shopping Ebay for this crap are not likely going to be plunking down 3 grand for the 'real thing".
ebay turns a blind eye and panders to their powersellers; and has for years. they HAD to know the bags being sold were fakes.
the fakes look just like what they are…fake. and does anyone believe you are carrying a real 'louie' if you are wearing a cheap-ass hairpiece and dressed head-to-toe in wal-mart clothes?
Re: tash – eBay is still responsible for their sellers though, it's up to them to make sure that there isn't any fake stuff getting sold. the only thing i don't agree with is i guess LVMH is trying to prevent eBay from allowing people to sell even their real LV bags second hand which is BS. but i have to side with LV mostly though because eBay says that they are cracking down on people selling knockoffs, but they really haven't done much to prevent it from happening.
Bags with logos are sooooo tacky and chavy.
Good for LV. Anyone who can appreciate the real thing will understand it's just a brand protection thing. If you're into fakes that's your deal, but why bother. Just go to Coach dude - -
how can ebay like control that anyway… by the way, though this is off topic
amazing video of paris hilton at minimovie dot com.
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I WOULD NEVER BUY LV FROM E-BAY! PEOPLE ARE SHADY, I ALWAYS ASSUME EVERYTHING IS FAKE, IT'S ALWAYS FROM THE LV SHOP FOR ME OR NOTHING!!!
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EVERYBODY WITH REAL LV CAN ALWAYS TELL A FAKE FROM 20 FT!! LOL,
IF YOU BUY A FAKE, IT LOOKS FAKE..TRUST
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I THINK IT'S GOOD THOUGH, SOME JERKS SELL THE FAKES FOR LV PRICES AND THE BUYERS DON'T FIND OUT TILL SOMEONE CALLS THEM OUT, LOL
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I am getting sick of getting on here and seeing tons of comments just saying "first." You guys look crazy. It is extremely weird and annoying. If you are first, everyone will notice. You don't have to state it.
#24 amyfi says – even if you have a real LV, it ends up looking fake since EVERYONE has em. same with those chanel quilted bags.
there are tons of brands that design bags that are actually creative.
baaaaah goes the sheep.
EXACTLY!! This is why I don't really like to use my designer bags… there are too many fakes so u cant tell the difference no more.
Am I the only person who actually purchased my LV from an LV store?
Stop selling your ugly product for so much money, and maybe regular people can afford them & won't have to by counterfeit…
i was selling a %100 authentic LV handbag on ebay this week and the posting was taken down without so much as a warning. now i'm out the $$$ and ebay won't help. this is LAME!!! LV is shooting themselves in the foot.
EBAY sucks. There is so much fraud going on there. I am glad that someone is cracking down on them.
I don't even carry the real one any more. So many fakes out there ie: tons of people that clearly can't afford them toting them around - it has totally devalued the brand. I've moved on to other brands with the ultimate goal being an Hermes bag.
Shit, the ones they were selling on ebay were all fake, but yet they were being advertised as authentic. You couldn't ever go on there and expect to buy one for less than $100! They were all going for hundreds of dollars because people thought they were real!
There was a point where there was a web site selling fake sales receipts for LV purses.
IT'S ALL ABOUT CANAL STREET IN NEW YORK CITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Isabella – No, I did too and totally regret it. Again - too many fakes being toted by "pretenders".
My e bay account was ruined after someone posing as me was trying to sell bags under my name. I wasn't alerted by e bay - but by some poor person who was trying to obtain the bag. I alerted everyone I could. So This is not a new issue for e bay Unfortunately, I will not , never look to buy another item from their site again because of it's troubles and lack of security
e-bay is responsible for allowing counterfeit merch to be sold despite complaints. They would love to wash their hands of all the illegal activity but they own the shop. they cannot claim they have no responsibility for the massive salke of fakes. They are deep in doodoo
Re: BOO F – I also agree. That is why I would rather find myself a killer-looking bag. I don't care who designed it, as long as it looks good. I hate those bags covered with logos. Whether it is LV, Gucci or Coach, they just look so tacky. Logos are for chavs.
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I LOVE LV! IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT THAN BUY PARIS HILTON'S FUGLY SHIT AT ROSS! BUT FOR GOD SAKES DON'T BUY A FAKE LV!!!! IT LOOKS SOOO BAD.. FUCK E-BAY!! I HOPE THEY GO DOWN!!
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Who cares? They are hideous looking and over priced
I am never impressed by them.
If people WANT a real one they will BUY one from LV, if not! KNock offs baby! everyone should have the right to buy a knock off when they want instead of traveling to little china's here and there! spread the love of the knock offs people!
good. serves them right. tough shit. if you cant afford the real thing than i guess you cant have it. you only look like an idiot with a cheap fake. those of us with the real thing arent fooled by the fakes. save yourself the humiliation and dont even bother.
this is ridiculous…if they stop ebay from doing it, people will just start selling it through other sites. it's weird that they think the copying will ever stop, people will just get sneakier about it…go Ebay!!!
Perez: Please spell out "you" instead of "U". Thanks!
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good for LMVH. The black market trade of fake handbags and other impostor designer items is not a joke, as many people think. The purchase of these items supports child labor, illegal drug trade, weapon trade, and violence in a vicious cycle that we don't see with our own eyes when we head to canal street for a pair of knockoff Chanel earrings. If you are unable to afford a real designer handbag, buy a less expensive one. It is a better choice than supporting a truly malicious way of commerce.
First of all…LVMH is an amazing corporation that holds MANY high end companies. Just because you can't afford an expensive bag does not mean you should automatically find it stupid and excessive seeing as unless you are some monk living in the hills of nowhere I'm sure you have vices as well.
These companies make a living by coming up with the latest styles and trends…its the only thing that seperates them from the top and the middle. If you can't afford to buy a real expensive bag then you should go buy a real less expensive bag. Whats the point of carrying some cheap knock off? Not to mention the cheap knockoffs are usually not made with real leather and you end up paying hundreds of dollars for vinyl and fake canvas…which is pretty stupid to do…
They are not made in China. The people who make these bags and even worse, at times steal the canvas bolts out of the back of trucks, are theifs. By buying a bag that has been stolen or knocked off, you are only allowing for criminals to make more money which can feed into many other illegal doings.
E Bay should be held accountable…they aren't allowing people to bid and sell on their site for fun…they are making money while doing so and the knockoff industry has made them very rich…if they cannot watch their business practices to make sure they are following code then they should not be allowed to sell those items. Its only fair.
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UM, ALL OF YOU THAT CARRY FAKE LV AND THINK NO ONE CAN TELL?? TRUST ME EVERYONE THAT HAS THE REAL STUFF CAN TELL!! YOUR FUGLY FAKE SHIT STANDS OUT AMOUNG THE REAL LV.
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STOP BEING GHETTO! It is so ghetto to buy fake handbags! If you want to be in style and you want to show it by having a LV, Go to LV and buy it. Having a ghetto copy is not IN nor in style. is just plain GHETTO! Everybody can say you are wearing a fake one, not because you can really tell by looking at one but because when you speak you show you have no class therefor you can't make the money to buy a real LV. So no matter what or how many LV FAKES you buy/bought or how good are made YOU STILL GHETTO.
I used to work for LV and I am so happy to see this finally happen. LV does not have a problem with anyone selling their used, REAL, product. They DO have a problem with people selling fake crap and trying to pass it on as the real thing. Most of the LV product on Ebay is so obviously fake, I don't know why anyone would purchase luxury items from that website in the first place.
That's just so stupid, eBay has the right do what they want and all companies know that, because people is selling those things for some reasons, not eBay.
If they're so thrilled about it, then designers, drop the prices NO NEED TO BE SO EXPENSIVE, not like it's gold or human skin on it!
I'll never understand why people like those bags anyway. I guess I'm just not a big fan of having names splashed all over my clothes or accessories. I don't need to prove to anyone what brands of clothing I can afford.
They kind of loose value when most of the people who carry them are trashy and ignorant. It doesn't take a genius to max out a credit card or go into debt
I don't know if they are real or fake but every other bitch out there has a LV or Coach bag. Not impressive to look like a bunch of sheep BAA! BAAA!
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Re: ren – …….WELL SAID!!! YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW WITH SOME TACT AROUND HERE!
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Re: steve – I agree…shouldn't the sellers be fined? not eBay?
I just can't feel bad for a company that can justify selling $2,000+ handbags.
Re: clue182 –
Well it obviously wouldnt be designer if they dropped the price…
If you cant afford it…buy something else. Stop making it seem as if they are commiting a crime by making an origional product and selling it at a high price.
It takes a hell-of-a lot of fakes to get what LV is making off one purse. The people that buy the real deal will never buy fakes so they are not stealing their competition. They are offering low budget folks a chance to look like they can afford the real deal. Let the poor have their purses!
eBay are thieving bastards anyway, now they feel the wrath for charging us so excessively. Paypal and eBay are the same people and yet they get away charging us twice for selling one item. ROBBING BASTARDS.
good. i dont get folks who do fake labels. i'd rather go without then carry sum cheap knock-off.
I love all the people who think they are super cool and super stylish by carrying louis vuitton. These bags are butt ugly. Do people's eyes even work? How could an LV bag possibly make you look classy or even just nice? It reminds me of those stores in the mall like American Eagle with AEO all over the bag or Hollister with "Hollister Co 1922" spread across the T-shirt. Abercrombie and Fitch with A on one side of the zipper of a jacket, and F on the other side. What is it with people wearing this shiz? Do you think you are so awesome because you can wear this crap and show to the world "Ooooh look at me! Look what I'm wearing!" No one gives a crap where you shop or where your clothes are from. I think these stores should be paying YOU to wear this fugly piece of garbage clothing they sell. You're a walking advertisement.
LV all over a purse is so ugly. Seriously, it looks like something a 5 year old would want, because it would be their initials all over the purse they used to play house. I've seen nicer purses at Charlotte Russe or Forver 21 for only $15. Nicer bags that really make an outfit look good. Not with words or drawings all over them, which is so unclassy and childish looking.
hmm…I agree with LV. I pay the full price for a real LV wallet. I don't want anyone sporting a fake one acting like its real. I work hard to live the lifestyle I want. If you can't afford then live within your means.
Hey, I have that purse! my mom works for LV, not the greatest employers I might say! but she gets one heck of a discount! 70% off =)
AT LAST! Someone needed to put a stop to the eBay imitation designer sales. Almost all of the bags on eBay are imitation claiming to be authentic, and some for hundreds of dollars. I saved a friend from spending $1,500 on a bag by urging her to go to the designer's website and look at the real thing in detail. She couldn't believe that eBay would allow sales of phonies but believed when she saw the real thing. eBay knows they are ripping people off and don't care.
If this decision stands…all of the flea markets in America should be shaking in their boots….you can buy that fake shit ANYWHERE!
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If Louis Vuitton were a good designer, they wouldn't have to splash their name all over the bags they sell. It looks really cheap.
Oh p.s. Jet Washington- if you steal a penny you are still considered a theif. The people who make the fake bags are criminals…if they want to make bags and sell them, then make your own brand, spend millions in advertising and try to make a fair buck…selling your own creations. And it hurts the exclusivity of the brand…so yes it does hurt LV and LVMH.
If the poor wants to buy a handbag I am sure they are having a sale at Wal-Mart. Dont try to carry something in the hopes to look like you are someone you are not.
Re: miche – I would love to see 1. where you shop 2. what you could afford and 3. what you wear everyday and how you look.
haterrrr…
guess I'll have to go to China Town from now on. Who the hell wants to spend that type on money on a purse
Re: kris – i just started reading this website. why does anyone care about being first? someone please enlighten me. its very weird!
Re: aggie – completely agree
couldnt have said it better myself
LV all the way, fakes just steal their design ideas
Re: miche – your probs jealous since you cant afford it
aw poor baby
go shop at nasty forever 21 with their tacky horribly made clothing
i will never buy a fake purse, nor i own one.. if you cant afford the real thing, just buy something original according to your budget.. it cracks me up when i see all this girls at the mall with a big ass FAKE louis vuitton bags and raggedy ass clothes…
You can't even buy LV bags in Chinatown in NYC anymore. I was there in January and asked about them, and I was told they were getting in major trouble and weren't selling them anymore…so…there goes that idea.
Re: ren –
Wow, you're so deep and intellectual. I am amazed by your profound questions and lack of punctuation. Why are you so defensive? I guess you had to work really hard at sucking cock for your ugly overpriced purse ;D
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT DECISION. TIFFANY'S DID THE SAME THING TO THEM A FEW YEARS BACK. THEY WHERE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SELL THE FAKE SHIT AND SAY IT WAS TIFFANYS. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS ITS GONNA AFFECT THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SELL THERE REAL ITEMS. I HAVE SOLD SOME OF MY OLD PURSES AND PUT TOWARDS NEWER ONES. BUT.. ALL AND ALL.. ITS A GREAT THING.
Kenzo's Flower is the prettiest smellin' perfume! It's my favorite…and I'm not a perfumy kinda person
I think its absolutely ridiculous its like an online flea market, we should be able to sell what we please on it, within reason. Hell didn't just somebody sell their life in ebay. Who is going to sue that guy? Where is Amnesty International on that one.
This is the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. It's not Ebay's fault that people sell counterfeit items. Suing Ebay puts them in the position of having to somehow authenticate every item that people list for auctions, which is ridiculous considering how large the site is! The companies should go after the people who are listing the fakes, NOT Ebay. Oh yeah, that's right… the listers do not have enough money to get from a lawsuit, that's why they're suing Ebay instead.
I hope Ebay appeals and wins.
Re: dramz –
Yeah they have agreements with officials in NYC, if anyone is caught selling them out of their business ir home they get evicted. And LV pays the court costs so the city prosecutes to the fullest extent.
Re: Ruby – Do you even own any authentic LVs? None of mine say they're made in China. They're made in the US and designed in Paris. For people who buy authentic bags; it's not to say you have one. We buy them for the quality and the design. You can tell they're authentic if you have a clue, but especially after you've had them for a few years.
I honestly believe LV does not want anoyone but the rich with their brand. Fakea are not huring their sales. I would say that 95% of people buying fakes would never be able to afford the real thing anyway. If I could afford a real one myself, why would I buy a fake, right? So its free advertising for them. I think they are more afraid of their image more then anything.
Re: HA HA –
i am defensive because i work in the industry and have seen the effects of this black market/underground knockoff industry. Also, I studied hard in school, made my own money and have been able to afford to buy real products…so when arrogant, classless, and obviously people with no clue about fashion or style, like yourself, make comments about how "stupid" it is to have these nice things it sort of gets under my skin. Funny that you dont enjoy my lack of punctuation but obviously are "intellectual" enough to mention my cock sucking in order to afford a bag. Welcome to America. Most of us around here enjoy aspiring to afford a nice house, a nice car, a nice retirement and HAH get this…maybe a nice bag.