If They Make Another Batman Movie…
Filed under: Film Flickers > Heath Ledger > Katie Holmes > Jim Carrey
As you know, the upcoming movie The Dark Knight will feature Batman battling it out with the Joker and Two Face.
The original plan was to have the Joker, played by Heath Ledger, return for the next film.
However, given that after his death they more than likely won't recast for the role, some changes have been made and the next villain has been revealed.
If another Batman flick is made, he will then be going up against the Riddler.
The last Riddler was played by Jim Carrey in Batman Forever, though no word on if he'll return. More likely than not - he won't.
Actor Gary Oldman, who plays Lt James Gordon, says of casting choices for the next film, "I don't see why not. I mean, they did it with Katie Holmes' character. I understand that this is a different circumstance, but I think another actor could do the job. I think Heath would want another actor to do the job. Maybe we don't need the Joker. Because we'll have The Riddler."
Katie's character, Rachel Dawes, will now be played by Maggie Gyllenhaal. You know Katie is too "big" now for a Batman movie.
We'll have to watch The Dark Knight first before we even consider watching the next film….though this one is getting GREAT reviews!
[Photo via Getty Images.]
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Katie is not "too big" for a Batman movie. She just sucked 10 kinds of balls in the first one. Her acting was horrible.
Fuck Batman and bring on the Avengers..
Re: Katie – Omg COOL Ive never been First
What's the point of writing "first" if you aren't actually writing a comment? Anyway, is it that Katie Holmes is "too big" or is it that she's too much drama b/c Tom won't leave her alone on set?
I love Gary Oldman
not first!
katie is not wanted and a bad actress, she is used to doing
striaght to dvds now .
Not the first :d
Luv you Perez!!!
Please don't bring back JIm Carey — he overacts too much!
I never really thought Katie Holmes was a good actress. She is ok at best. Now, ever since she hooked up with captain douchebag, I don't care to see her in anything. She'll most likely suck on Broadway as well.
ajdlajdlfjdkaldjl…..I can't wait to see this movie!!!!!
Re: girl1 – , fuck you.
Let's give heath Ledger an Oscar and other prizes for being a drug addict and a fraud !
Let's honor him for killing himself and leaving his daughter without a father.
what about megan fox? you've been scooped, perez
If they are going in order of the original batman movies, then the penguin and catwoman are the next villans in the lineup. Not sure who could play penguin, but how sweet would it be to see charlize theron as the next catwoman.
Only one person can replace Heath and do the part Justice. Joseph Gordon Levitt yes the kid from 3rd rock from the sun. Just watch Brick and the Lookout to see how insanely good he is.
….as soon as Katie sold her soul to L.Ron she dumped a great career…Lawn Jockey Cruise is going to make plenty sure that Kaite ever becomes a credible actress EVRE AGAIN….before that arse…she was an up and coming….now she is gone…Riddle me this Sciencreeptologist handlers!
i love him he played Sirius Black in Harry Potter.
Jockey Cruise is going to make plenty sure that Kaite NEVER becomes a credible actress EVER AGAIN
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Sorry folks my french is peeking through
Re: Dan – please no, those were the worst villans
Re: pronz – TRUE THAT!
So let me get this straight…Katie is "too big" for a Batman movie now, but she isn't too big for that debacle of a film "Mad Money??" I obviously haven't seen The Dark Knight yet, but I'd venture to say that every Batman film until now has been a hell of a lot better than Mad Money. Pshh!
Lololol, Katie Holmes too big for Batman? You are kidding! Too crap an actress to be asked back more like. And BTW, Gary Oldman - yummy!!
Katie isn't "too big" for any role. She'd better start picking some half-decent roles or she'll just be a has-been married to a psycho!
If Mr. Hankey were to turn evil and move from South Park to Gotham City, Jim Carrey would be perfect to play him.
LET JIM CARREY DO IT!!! He can do darker things (eternal sunshine) I think it would be really cool to let him do it again!
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There are other villains.
Catwoman
Penguin
Carrey is too old and too campy for this version of Batman. NO CARREY AS THE RIDDLER. He was fine in the movie he was in, but no more.
As long as they DO NOT BRING IN ROBIN, I'll be okay with the movie.
The introduction of Robin was the downfall of the original franchise.
Crispin Glover for Riddler.
the Riddler will obviously be played by Crispin Glover. I don't think that there's any intention of following the villain progression from the earlier flicks.
And, Heath Ledger isn't being honored and respected and awarded for being "a drug addict".. What a fucking ignorant thing to say. Are we supposed to pretend that he wasn't a great actor because he overdosed?
Re: Larry – you're an f-ing ass hole. get your facts straight douche. respect the dead cum catcher.
Deff not something I'm interested in
But it could be good
I think they should cast Ellen Page as Robin!! Robin is, after all, a uni-sex name!
Katie is not "too big", Christopher Nolan and the producers did not want her.
Katie "too big" for a Batman movie … yeah right! More like Tommy wouldn't let her do it. She was the weak link in the first movie anyway, so I'm glad they got Maggie G to replace her!
Re: Larry –
I have to agree with you.
I know of no one who has any respect for sympathy for someone who kills themselves over drugs.
There's too much education and clinics for these people.
I do feel sorry for his daughter, but not him.
KATIE IS "TOO BIG" FOR A "BATMAN" MOVIE BUT THE BEST SHE CAN GET IS CRAP FLOP MOVIES LIKE "MAD MONEY" ??!! WHAT A JOKE…LMAO !!
well good, i like maggie better anyway
Katie got dropped from the Batman franchise because she spent too much time publicizing her relationship with Tom and not promoting the film. Get your facts straight.
they replaced katie holmes because she's a freak alien who can't act. she is soo weird i wonder if she will ever snap out it. but i'm pretty sure she's doomed. hope little suri doesn't turn out to be as fucked up as her parents. but anyway. yep. BATMAN RULES. i can't wait to see heath. hopefully they don't replace him.
It's not that Katie Holmes is too "big" for a Batman movie. The producers actually fired her ass because while she was promoting Batman Begins and Tom Cruise was promoting War of the Worlds back in '05, the producers grew tired of all the TomKat bullshit and decided it was best to distance themselves from her…turns out they were right.
And yes, Johnny Depp should absolutely play the riddler
You have to remember that Nolan is sticking with a "keep it as real as possible" angle when it comes to his take on Batman. So the more fantastic villains from the Batman mythos probably won't ever appear in the Nolan-Bale series.
I figured that the Joker lives at the end of The Dark Knight and is locked up in Arkham Asylum. He could appear in a few scenes in the next film and then break out in the end, Hannibal Lecter-like. And, in a twist, maybe it would be Batman who has to break him out for some reason. Dr. Harlen Quinzel should help break him out. (Yes, I am a Batman nerd.)
So I definitely want to see the Joker around. But I couldn't figure on an actor who could take over the role from Ledger, not merely copy Ledger's performance but EVOLVE it from that point. However, someone suggested Joseph Gordon Levitt — and I think he could be a good choice!
it's not that katie is too big for batman, it's that she DRAGGED THE WHOLE MOVIE DOWN WITH HER SUCKY PERFORMANCE AND NOBODY LIKES HER SHE SUX
Larry and Chery– you guys are idiots. his lifestyle has nothing to do with his acting. when people get awards for acting it's because they are amazing actors. it has nothing to do with their personal life.
That Batman movie clip
was AMAZING!!!
CAN'T WAIT!
Joseph Gordon Levitt? really? I'll admit that I haven't seen most of the shitty movies he's been in… but, really? you don't have to look like Heath Ledger to play the Joker. Heath Ledger doesn't look like the Joker. I'm sure that there is someone better than the 3rd Rock kid. Sure, he looks a little like Heath Ledger. But, could he follow Heath Ledger's PERFORMANCE as Joker? Doubt it. I doubt that they'll bring the Joker back in the next movie. Maybe in a subsequent film. But, not the next one.
Katie was even too shitty for Dawson's Creek. The only reason she married Tom was so that she would have something to fall back on after her career died. Guess she didn't realize what kind of crazy she was getting in to.
I want Catwoman to be in the next one ah
Crispin Glover should have played the Joker from the beginning. If they continue with the Joker, they should give him his chance.
Um, isn't the next vilan going to be Two Face?
If you watch the trailer you see the district attorney Harvey Dent on the floor with what seems to be acid all around him and on his face, and he's screaming… To me, that indicates that the next vilan is going to be Two Face… Thoughts?
Oh so the Joker doesn't die… thanks for the fucking spoiler.
Re: Johnn – I agree with you and I think they were trying to keep it sort of a secret from those who are not Batman nerds like me. I also think that if the Joker comes back in another Batman movie they should include Harley Quinn. The Riddler, Poison Ivy, Catwoman, The Penguin and Mr. Freeze were all in the previous Batman movies but I would like to see the director Christopher Nolan to take a darker turn with them like what was done with the Joker. Oh and Maggie is a far better choice than Katie because post-Tom she creeps me out.
the first and only person who could do justice to the joker roll is Johnny Depp! He's a great actor and I could see him playing a psychotic or even comedic Riddler.
Re: Mike –
I love all the support for Crispin Glover as Riddler! He's dark, edgy, manic, and perfect.
69th. yeah, 69
Everyone knows Jim Carrey is allergic to sequels, and I think he's very wise in that sense. Although i would LOVE to see him reprise his role as the Riddler.
Jim Carey did an amazing Riddler. I'd love to see him return.
THEY SHOULD BRING CATWOMAN BACK AND HAVE ANGELINA JOLIE PLAY HER!!!
How ’bout I hit snooze until a better idea comes around. Barf!
If the dialogue in the previews is any indication of the greatness of the film, I am excited. Notice the periods. I am a mindless puppy dog…feed me my rubber shoe. I chew my ass and take a nap behind the couch.
Please Please no Jim Carrey I just got over an eating disorder And the sight of his bad humour and acting may bring it back,I wil sue
And another thing I don't think they make knee pads big enough For Katie now seeing as she has sucked enough……… to cover or take care of all droughts,I mean really
katie holmes is an idiot or should I say Tom Cruise is an idiot, this movie is going to be huge b.c. of Heath Ledger's amazing performance and also his untimely death. She wasn't any good in the first one and she probably wouldn't have been good at this one. She is NO nicole kidman.
I want Jim Carrey to play the Riddler, he did such an amazing job the first time around. Please, Please, Please have Jim Carrey play the Riddler! I hope that the Dark Knight is better than Batman Begins but I will definitely see the sequel to the dark knight if jim carrey is in it. I love him so much. He's so funny!!!!!!
I always wanted to see Robin Williams as the Riddler. Probably would have made more sense in the Jim Carrey one, but I could work. Crispin is a good idea though. Penguin seems like it would be a tough one to cast.
I'm watching TDK because of Maggie Gyllenhaal. If Katie was still playing Rachel i would NOT WATCH the movie.
MAGGIE GYLLENHAAL IS AMAZING! And a much better actress for the role (or any other role for that matter) than Katie Holmes.
1.) Okay, so I love love LOVE Gary Oldman, but he's out of his damn-fool mind if he thinks anybody else can play The Joker in this franchise. C'mon Gary. C'mon.
2.) The movie is only gonna be that much better without Katie Holmes stinking it up. Every review that I read of "Batman Begins" when it came out was that it was brilliant…except for Katie Holmes. Maggie Gyllenhal is a fantastic actress, and I love her. This movie is gonna be so FUCKING BADASS!!!
They need to prolong Catwoman because Hello that Rachel chick has got to get out of the picture. Cause Batman has to have a steamy affair with Catwoman. Sorry but I'm a Catwoman and Batman fan.
Katie Holmes must retire from acting.
the next villain is going to be harvey dent aka (2 face) and if joker does play a role in it. it should be played by ben foster the kid from alpha dog and 30 days of night or even that kid from 3rd rock from the sun Joseph Gordon-Levitt. i seen that him play in alot movies he's real good actor. and if riddler is in the next movie johnny depp would be good but way to much money for him. so either the two kids i said could play riddler too or even Colin Farrell.
God Bless Gary Oldman!!! Where has he been? He's one of the best actors around and I've missed him……..long live DREXEL!!!
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY EVERYONE!!!!!
PEREZ!!!!! UR SUCH A FUCKIN SPOILER!!!!!
Johnny Depp should play the joker
Yay Maggie Gyllenhaal IS da bomb I am so glad they replaced Rachel's chara
what her name was so lame in "Batman begins" the only thing not awesome about that movie was Holmes Problem solved
Maggie is a WAY better actress and she is so pretty and unique Weeee This movie is gonna rock !
MAN U JUST CANT BEAT THE OLD BATMANS……SO STYLEY!
THEY NEED 2 GIVE UP
I can see Colin Farrell as the riddler, he's young–if you notice this darker Nolan's version of the Batman Franchise the casting has leaned towards younger, yet established group of actors–he was dark in Intermission, Daredevil….
I agree please don't bring in Robin, maybe some good cutting room floor from the Dark Knight could bring in The Joker and Dr. Harlen Quinzel (his love interest) would be hard to bring her in since of the unfortunate circumstances…although bringing her in would have been awesome!!
Johny Depp, i think would be a tough cast since you don't really want anyone too big of a star to downplay Batman…keep the cast young and edgy, but talented established actors…
I have always been a Jim Carrey fan, but I hate to agree that he was cast wonderfully for the Joel version of Batman, he just wouldn't fit in this darker version—as great as he was in Eternal Sunshine..I love you Jim, but you just wouldn't fit in this version of Batman..
Please keep Maggie and KEEP THE RIDDLER A DARK CHARACTER…not a bright–PG version…I still only see Katie Holmes as Joey in Dawson's Creek..
I think Aaron Eckhart was greast casting as Harvey Dent (Two Face)..
Im sorry one more thing!!
Please keep Christian Bale as Batman forever!!!
Re: Richa –
Sure enough. He is gorgeous, striking looks - exactly like heath, wonderful grounded actor and respects Heath. Could've been fair choice but..
too good to be true : (
First of all, noone could possibly 'know' who or what the next villian could be. No script or even ideas have been discussed. Rumours like this are crap. Lke the Robin rumour, it's crap. Riddler rumour, crap.
Secondly, Katie Holmes was not asked to return for The Dark Knight. All the hardcore fans hated her acting, and felt she was the only weak part of Batman Begins. Chris Nolan and team listened. They were 'nice' about it however and said she did not want to reprise her role. not true. What really cinched it was at the premier of BB when Tom Cruise pulled his motorcyle up to the very rear of the Batmobile and proceeded to do what he does best and made a spectacle of himself on the red carpet acting like it was his premier. (War of the Worlds came out right after) Even Stephen Spielberg was embarrassed.
Someone that worked on the movie said that they did actually ask Katie to come back and do dark night. but they but a rule in her contract that Tom couldn't be on set at all to try and distance the whole Tom/Kat thing. SHE turned them down. How fair is it to ask someone to not have their family there anyway?
No! The next villian is going to be two-face! Harvey (aka two face before the accident) is already shown in the trailer for the dark knight.
There is a 'rumor' going around that David Tennant the 10th Doctor on the BBC show Doctor Who is in line to play the Riddler.
However like so many things… i think he'd make a good Riddler.
He already makes an awesome Doctor.
Any one has to be better than"Katie"
heath can't come back. the nigga overdosed. the nigga dead.
I read that David Hyde Pierce was being cast to play the Riddler…
She'll be way better than Katie Holmes.
Any moron with half a brain knows it will be Two-Face aka Harvey Dent… In the trailers, Aaron Eckhart who plays Harvey Dent/Two-Face says "Either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
and thats what happens, in one of the trailers, you can see Harvey Dent has become two-face because his face is scarred. Its been setup that way. Look at the trailers again.
Any moron with half a brain knows it will be Two-Face aka Harvey Dent… In the trailers, Aaron Eckhart who plays Harvey Dent/Two-Face says "Either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
and thats what happens, in one of the trailers, you can see Harvey Dent has become two-face because his face is scarred. Its been setup that way. Look at the trailers again.
thanks fuck head for letting us know the joker lives at the end!!….moron
Katie Holmes didn't get too big for Batman!!! She was easily the worst thing about Batman Begins and recasting her role was super smart! I mean, can the girl do anything other than Joey Potter?! I don't think so!!!
SAM ROCKWELL AS THE RIDDLER SAM ROCKWELL AS THE RIDDLER SAM ROCKWELL AS THE RIDDLER SAM ROCKWELL AS THE RIDDLER SAM ROCKWELL AS THE RIDDLER SAM ROCKWELL AS THE RIDDLER!!!!!!!
my uncle is the casting director for batman
Katie Holmes acting was the only thing that sucked in Batman Begins. Thank God she's not in this new film! Yea!!
Re: jojo –