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"Poll: Barack Obama could lose six percentage points on election day for being black"
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Poll: Barack Obama could lose six percentage points on election day for being black
Six percentage points is the price Barack Obama could pay on election day for being black.
That disturbing calculation was found in a groundbreaking new Associated Press-Yahoo News poll conducted with Stanford University which probes the effect of the Democratic presidential candidate's race on his historic campaign for the White House.
"There's a penalty for prejudice, and it's not trivial," Stanford University political scientist Paul Sniderman told the AP.
In a close contest, racism "might be enough to tip the election," Sniderman said.
Still, the Illinois senator seems to be making some headway even with white Americans who don't have much good to say about African-Americans.
Among the white Democrats who think blacks are lazy, or violent, or boastful, two-thirds said they will vote for Obama over Sen. John McCain, a white Republican.
The poll of 2,227 adults was conducted Aug. 27-Sept. 5, and was designed to probe people's racial attitudes and how those attitudes affect voting.
It shows that when it comes to race, there has been some progress in America: Most white people have positive things to say about black people.
Still, pollsters found that a substantial portion of white Americans have very little contact with African-Americans - and many still harbor negative feelings toward them.
Whites also have a rosier view of race relations than blacks. When asked "how much discrimination against blacks" exists, 10% of whites said "a lot" while 57% of blacks said "a lot."
Asked how much of the nation's racial tension is created by blacks, more than a third of whites said "most" or "all."
Meanwhile, nearly three-fouths of the blacks polled said while people have too much influence in U.S. politics.
Also, the perception that voters in their 20s and 30s might go for Obama because they're less racially biased than their parents might be wrong.
The survey found no meaningful differences in the way younger and older whites viewed black people.
But older whites were more likely to say when they really think of blacks than the younger generations.
Not surprisingly, racial prejudice tends to be lowest among college-educated whites living outside the South, the pollsters found.
Personally, I think both parties need to be eliminated. If this happened, then politicians won't have a loyalty to their party but instead their loyalty would be towards the people.
BTW, people should vote on the issues and not on race or sex.
I just heard a funny commercial parody on the radio. It said that if you don't vote for Obama than you are racist, if you don't vote for palin you are a sexist, if you don't vote for McCain then you're an ageist, and if you don't vote for Biden than you are a elitest. The commercial was saying no matter how you vote, you will be labeled one of the following.
Re: Notlikely – #193
Did you want me to source the "typical white woman" quote (in which case I will refer to Obama's book, which I just happen to have here beside me), or the Hamas endorsement? Just Google Obama + Hamas endorsement.
Re: Village – #197
If you're going to say the Republicans can't win without cheating, I'll say the Democrats can't lose without rioting. lol. That was a joke, people.
eeehh. This isn't surprising. I'm an african-american girl living in TN & working in Cracker Barrel. These stats are unfortunate, but not surprising in the least
Re: ss794- – Wow! Grasping at straws are we? Here's the Webster definition of "typical"
1. of the nature of or serving as a type or representative specimen.
2. conforming to a particular type.
3. characteristic or distinctive: He has the mannerisms typical of his class.
4. pertaining to, of the nature of, or serving as a type
Synonyms are normal, average, stock, usual.
Now calling his mother an average, normal white woman is suddenly offensive?? Just stop it already.
YOU REP AND STUPID PEOPLE. TAKE A WORD "TYPICAL" AND RUN WITH IT MY GOD.. YOU REALLY THINK A MAN WHO MOTHER WHITE, GRANDPARENTS WHO R WHTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. WHO RAISED HIM IS BEING A RACIST.
Someone made the comment that their are white people in prison too. So i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that someone must have said that the prisons are all blacks and hispanics. Well, it is a proven fact that the majority of the prison population is made up of blacks and mexicans. (True there is the occasional white inmate.) But that is just a fact that no one can deny. Now, I do not descriminate against any race. But i can say that at least 2-3 times a week i have a black person be very rude and judgemental to me because i am white. Black people wanted to be treated as equals and now most of them just treat white people with such disrespect. I dont think that is "equal". I also dont think its fair that black people can make stereotypical remarks on t.v. everyday and its okay but if a white person even thinks about thinking about saying something about a black person in that way, we have to come on t.v. and publically apologize to the enire race. and i could go on and on but i'll stop now. i just think that there shouldnt be political parties. there should just be canidates that stand for something and people should just vote for who they think would do the best job leading our country.
Re: LS – #208
Yes. Have you read his books? I doubt it.
Re: luvmygirlz7104 – STFU THANKS
Re: LS –
That answers my question. Thanks.
Re: Smirks – You're welcome to sight the entire quote. I read the article on google about Hamas endorsement.
Here's an excerpt
“We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,” Yousef said in response to a question about the group’s willingness to meet with either of the Democratic presidential candidates.
Yousef was asked about Obama's condemnation of Carter's visit with Hamas, but didn't seem troubled by it. Hamas, he says, understands American politics; this is the election season, and everyone wants to sound like a friend of Israel. Nevertheless, he hopes that the Democrats will change American policies when they take office.
However Obama has consistantly stated the following "For his part, Obama criticized former President Jimmy Carter’s decision to meet with Hamas, telling Jewish leaders Wednesday that “Hamas is not a state, Hamas is a terrorist organization.”
“We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel’s destruction,” Obama said. “We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel’s right to exist, and abide by past agreements.”
Smirks, my question to you is, what point were you trying to make about the Hamas endorsement?
Re: LettyB – Racist WHITE america? I don't think so. 85% of blacks are going to vote for Obama JUST because he is black. That's racism!
Re: Notlikely – That was my point. That Hamas endorsed Obama. I know it was unsolicited. It doesn't make it untrue. You have to ask yourself, why would a terrorist organization such as Hamas endorse Obama? What do they have to gain if he wins?
Re: luvmygirlz7104 – I'm hate to brake it you sweetie, but statistically speaking that statement you made is not only impossible but grossly incorrect. If you did some RESEARCH, you'll see that the actual ratio of Blacks and Hispanics in the prison system is less than that of whites.
It's unfortunate that you were disrespected by some black people, but you can't make generalizations about black people soley based on your experiences.
You don't know what every black person thinks of white people, so please refrain from speaking on their behalf. The same could be said for black people who are prejudiced against whites and make similar statements.
The truth is, WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE MAJORITY in this country, and still hold most of the power. STOP MAKING GENERALIZATIONS!! You don't know enough about these people to make an objective commentary, and you're also clouded by your own experiences.
The truth is that ALL PEOPLE should be treated equally, not because of what color they are, but because they're HUMAN BEINGS!
Whoever you vote for, be sure it's because you've done your research on them and want them to be your President, not because of their race, age or sex.
Re: Smirks – What do they stand to gain if he doesn't win? What do they stand to gain if McMain wins? Maybe the rest of the world is ready for someone other than a white man to be President of the United States. or as Eminem so eloquently put it "These Divided States of Embarrassment". It is 2008 for Pete sake, and like it or not racism is still very prevalent in this country. Of course advancements have been made, but it's no where near what is could be or should be.
Re: Notlikely –
I completely agree with you about not being where we need to be in terms of racial harmony, but Obama just isn't my guy. He's way too liberal for me.
Ugh…talk about a way to get more sympathy votes for pointing out his race.
How about we just end all election talk until after the election, Perez? Let people make their own decisions instead of having to constantly read all of this biased material and influencing people who are not competent enough to do their own research on candidates.
If McCain said "typical black person" in any context than the nation would be in an uproar. There are double standards.
Re: ss794- –
Yes, furthermore, if he even said, "typical Bangladeshi" even though his adopted daughter is from Bangladesh, he'd be pilloried. Just because your white Grandma raised you, it doesn't give you a pass to say "typical white woman". It's. simply. racist.
Re: SquirrelLives – Honestly, I'm not blaming anything on
Republicans. I'm saying that it's BS that more Democrats are racist than Republicans. I'm just not buying it. Polls are not 100% reliable.
Re: abercorey – that has got to be the most ignorant thing i've ever read you're truly a dumbass
Re: LS – yes thank you!
Re: WONDER TWIN – ewwww. the open minded generation. is that what you idiots who eat all the bullshit you are spoonfed are calling yourselves these days??
Sad, Sad, Sad.
Re: Notlikely – omg thank you someone on here has some common sense!!!
i cannot believe how there are so many people on here who are closeted racists it makes me sick to my stomach what a shame this country is sometimes
all the lives lost to create a world of peace and equality and there are still these seeds of hate in this country due to someones race what a fucking shame
as to the person who was talking about having a WET station most tv channels/programs are geared to white america anyway and there are many multicultural months beside black history month, there's also hispanic heritage month, and native american heritage month, please come up with something new than these retarted arguements about how we should have our own tv channels/programs give me a fucking break
Why is this surprising.It's probably a higher percentage overall.The U.S still has a huge problem with ignorent racist pricks.And the fact that people are surprised by this shows the greater ignorence by some Americans who choose to place their heads in the sand.I've been saying it all along, if it weren't for the racists in the U.S Obama would take this election by 15% easily.Instead he's only ahead by 6%.America still has a long long way to go catch up to the rest of the world in alot of ways.
Re: Swagger – agree a 100%
Re: audacity of crap – He does, actually. Or at least he did when I was paying attention. But the deal is, if he were walking down the street in the small town PA neighborhood I grew up in, he'd still be called out as a ——. Plain and simple. And a lot of the people who would be sayin' it are registered Democrats. Oddly enough, many of the folks who "wouldn't want him next door" would still vote for him on 11/4, but many won't on that issue alone.
this is ridiculous dont these people know that he is half white and he was raised by his mom that was white and his grandparents who are also white… color shouldnt matter.. sooooo dumb
What about the points he will gain or has already gained by the fact that he is Black.
Re: chuckyb74 – Chuck. Black Americans have ALWAYS voted Democrat–Overwhelmingly. Obama is averaging the SAME amount of black voters that Bill Clinton did. The last 8 years, the Republicans had 2 black people in high position in their Admin–Condi Rice and Colin Powell, while Democrats had none. Black voters still voted overwhelmingly–80% or better for Democrats. If Obama was running on the Republican ticket, he'd not get the black vote–he may have gotten some, but not most. It's the issues that matter and blacks have ALWAYS voted for Democrats.
Re: Conservative Momma – rocky??………i keep looking for ya!
I think this is funny,
"Whites also have a rosier view of race relations than blacks. When asked "how much discrimination against blacks" exists, 10% of whites said "a lot" while 57% of blacks said "a lot.""
So that means that black people are seeing racism that isn't there?? People are so quick to pull the race card…
thats awful. awful awful awful. i dont understand why everybody cant just treat everybody equal
I am sorry but I am over the whole Obama thing….Sarah Palin is Amazing, and you can count on my vote for McCain/Palin!!!
Re: ss794- – do you know what it is like to be black in America?? Wait, why am I asking you this? of course you don't. Now please SHUT THE FUCK UP
to yourazzzuckzbuttermilk and anyone else who is convinced slavery hasn't existed in over 100 years…
do your research on the prison-industrial complex and the statistics of people of color in prisons versus white people in relation to economic and social status. prison IS slavery. legal slavery. although i can't really hate on folks who write ignorant shit in these comments. you guys are probably just not very educated.
I wish I were America so I could vote for him!!!
Re: luvmygirlz7104 – I am not going to waste time ripping you a new asshole…because you are so simple-minded its kinda sad, and rather pathetic, I am so very sorry for you.
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Black, Muslim, arrogant, Cocky…. These are not the real issues. This nation is going through real crisis's (our economy!!!), and Obama is not experienced enough to handle the situations that this country is going through. Besiedes, sadly there are plenty of people that because of his race wont be votingfor him, and if he does get elected there is a chance he might have a similar fate to that as JFK did.
Please make a concience choice and vote for those who are ready and experience to lead this great nation, McCain-Palin in 08.
Re: _Alice_ –
I couldn't agree more with the sentiment
He's black?
I'm tired if these stupid polls. For every person there is who might not vote for Obama just because he's black then there'll be someone who *will* vote for him just because he's black. It'll all even out so I'm not even concerned he'd lose the election just for being black. *rolleyes*
Re: Notlikely – i dont know where you get YOUR information but i have MANY relatives that work in and around the police force and prison system. Not to mention even OBAMA said himself that whites are the MINORITY in jails and and state prisons. So go do your research. Dont get mad just because im right.
Re: FlorescentBunny – THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH. MY POINT EXACTLY I MEAN COME THE FUCK ON. SERIOUSLY? ITS GETTING OLD
Re: tolerance87 – Nobody gives a fuck what its like to be black in america.
Re: tolerance87 – NO you know what, if everyone can get on here and say the shit their saying about "poor obama, he's losing votes because he's black, he might not win now because of white people" then i can say what i think as well. just because your not on the same page here and you cant see what the fuck is going on in this fucked up country we call home, doesnt mean that im wrong. granted it doesnt make me right either. but i am entitled to my opinion just like the black people and every other race. so dont get mad just because im not buying the whole porr me poor me im black and im hated by all white people act. its old and frankly black people wouldnt have as many white people look down on them if they would cut the bullshuit. stop getting the unemployment checks, the WIC cards, the food stamps, the section 8 housing and whatever else they get. i pay taxes just so they can sit on their lazy asses and live off the gonvernment and then they go to prison and i pay for that too. im fucking tired of it. and obama is just going to make it even easier on them to do so. So yes im definatly voting McCAIN/PALIN
Re: Sammy – Um, he has been saying that since his state senate race, long before "a few years ago"… TRY AGAIN.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!.WHO CARES IF HE'S BLACK?REALLY.COME PPL.VOTE 4 OBAMA.
Re: luvmygirlz7104 – My apologies. I did some fact checking and there a several reports that state blacks are incarcerated and 5 times the rate of whites and latinos. Why is that? An inherently racisit judicial system perhaps? Or maybe it's due to racial profiling. Frankly sweetheart, I think you need to work on you"anger management" issues. You seem to be awfully angry! Secondly, I do know that majority of people on welfare and section 8 in this country are in fact White people.
Traits of families on AFDC (1)
Race
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White 38.8%
Black 34.2
Hispanic 19.8
Asian 3.8
Other 3.4
Think for a second. White poeple are the majority in this counrty. That means that televison, magazines and news programing are primarily geared toward white people. The reason you have channels like BET and TV1 and others are becasue there was a demand for programing that delt with black peoples lives. You have no idea what it's like to be black in this country, so how could you possibly to know what black people think or want? ANSWER: You don't!
STOP MAKING GENERALIZATIONS!!! We ALL pay taxes! You're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to mine. But we all have to live in this counrty TOGETHER. It would be a lot eaier to do that if people like you tried to listen to and understand other people.
Re: LettyB – Like I have said b4 black people or just as racist as white people……just the other day my husband was called a cracker in a black neighborhood because he went to visit a black ex co-worker to c how he was doing. FYI…my husband was doing nothing wrong, he just went to visit a friend and all those blacks there were being the way they always are…..walking around like everyone should be afraid of them…brandishing their stolen guns and so on and so forth.
Re: Notlikely – No i don't think there is a racial judicial system it is because black people think that white people owe them something…(it is not our generations fault that white peoples ancestors dragged their black asses over here) therefore they walk around like a bunch of badasses commiting crimes and that is why their are more blacks in prison.
Anyway everyone here can call me racist or whatever they feel they want to…..i really don't care. In my opinion there are good black people and there are bad black people. There are good white people and there are bad white people. With my husbands experience the other night I have had alot of thoughts about blacks in my town and as of right now I am calling myself a racist because I am sick and tired of the black peoples behavior. I do not care to try to associate with any of them anymore.
Before you vote for this guy check out the facts - he has a history of switching his vote or voting "present" versus "yes" and "no". This guy is a good public speaker, with much charisma…but not yet a leader-maybe in another 4 years he'll have the experience to be president but not now. McCain-Palin!!!!
Re: luvmygirlz7104 – and your black so you would know this right?? No your not black your a fucking idiot now please go fuck yourself
Re: luvmygirlz7104 – You are an epic idiot! you can't spell, and your the epitome of a closet racist, not to mention you have just proved to all of us that you are even more simple- minded and dense than I gave you credit for. There is no hope for people like you, so get a .45, a friend, and a shovel trust me no one will miss you!
Re: Notlikely – you know what i do try to listen and i do try to understand but when i have to wait several years to go to college because i have to work my ass off and save every penny i can even though i was a straight A student, but yet black people can get full paid scholarships simply because they r black, i tend to tune out