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"Woman didn't know she was pregnant, gives birth — now hospital is sued"

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Woman didn't know she was pregnant, gives birth — now hospital is sued

TAMPA — Robin Lumley, childless, overweight and unmarried at 46, arrived at an emergency room 2 1/2 years ago complaining of terrible abdominal pain.

Nurses documented her symptoms and a doctor ordered tests. When Lumley said she needed to use the restroom, they let her go.

A short while later, the medical staff at University Community Hospital in Carrollwood found that she had delivered a 6-pound baby girl into the toilet.

Lumley didn't even know she was pregnant, an attorney says.

But Harold "Tripp" Sebring III claims the medical staff should have. Because it missed obvious signs of labor, he says, Lumley's baby almost drowned.

Sebring sued the hospital last month, contending that baby Brianna Rose Lumley went into respiratory arrest and suffered brain damage due to treatment providers' negligence. He wants the hospital to pay for Brianna's lifelong medical care.

Sebring is suing on the child's behalf, not the mother's. If he succeeds, Robin Lumley won't get a dime.

"I'm pretty upset with the mother," he said. But more so, he's "pretty upset with the nurses and the hospital. It is a very basic component of care."

The hospital would not comment on the pending litigation.

Any woman who has endured pregnancy and childbirth might find it hard to believe a fellow female could be unaware of her condition. But psychologists say some women hide their pregnancy to the point that they convince themselves they are not carrying a child.

The denial can have tragic outcomes.

In 1989, 18-year-old Claire Moritt's baby boy drowned after she delivered him into a toilet in her dormitory room near the University of South Florida. Prosecutors tried her for murder, but jurors found her not guilty by reason of insanity after defense attorneys convinced them that she had lost touch with reality and did not know she was pregnant.

Dr. Alexander E. Obolsky, who specializes in psychiatric trauma in Chicago, said Lumley doesn't fit the typical profile of young women who worry about their family's reactions to an unplanned pregnancy.

Still, other factors could have played into Lumley's disconnect with reality, he said. She might not have gained a lot of weight due to her already heavy frame. Though Sebring said she had not had a period in eight months and 24 days, she might have attributed the absence to something else. Lumley had traces of cocaine in her bloodstream when she gave birth, the lawyer said; substance abuse could have clouded her awareness.

"This appears to be, at least on the surface, that there was something going on with this lady psychologically that she was not in tune with her body," Obolsky said. "We all know people who have poor self-observation. People who have bad breath. People who have body odor."

Terry Mills, 50, has two children. She had heard of this kind of thing happening, but she found Lumley's situation hard to believe. So far as Mills knows, the baby's father didn't know Lumley was pregnant, either.

Mills is the father's aunt and Brianna's great-aunt. She has been the child's caregiver for 13 months, since Lumley tested positive for cocaine again. Lumley now lives in Nevada and could not be reached.

Mills said Brianna is just starting to speak. She has had physical therapy to strengthen her limbs, and Mills worries about what other physical challenges might arise.

"She's a lovely child," Mills said. It's a miracle that she's here."

Sebring says the hospital failed the child by overlooking her mother's symptoms. At 8:58 a.m. on Jan. 29, 2006, Lumley showed up at the hospital and reported sharp pain in her abdomen and vaginal bleeding. She thought she might have cancer.

A doctor ordered a pregnancy test — which wasn't performed, the lawsuit states — but couldn't conduct a full exam because Lumley was in too much pain, Sebring said.

The attorney said the staff should have been on "high alert" that Lumley was in labor and should never have let her go to the bathroom unassisted. That's how he defends this lawsuit.

Another man's take?

"Chutzpah," Obolsky said. "This is America. You've got to love this country. This woman doesn't know she is pregnant, but somebody else should."

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81 comments to “Headline Of The Week Weak”

  1. 1

    how do you not know you are pregnant??? That is soooo stupid

  2. 2

    I'm sorry but you have to be pretty fucking stupid to not know you are pregnant. I take that back - REALLY fucking stupid.

  3. 3

    i thinks it was gas from dem 2 buckets o hot wings i eats

  4. 4

    That's some seriously fucked up shit.

  5. 5

    This is how Obama voters are made.

  6. 6

    what a dumb bitch! and where did the medical staff get their education, the UNIVERSITY OF HELMET HEADS!

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  8. 8

    I've heard of this happening in fat women who mistake movement in utero as gas pains, this is ridiculous. Take responsibility for your own ignorance!

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  10. 10

    Re: blue-eyes – Fat people and their gas should be outlawed.

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  15. 15

    WELL SAID! "This woman doesn't know she is pregnant, but somebody else should!" PAH-LEASE!!!!


  16. 16

    Re: LettyB – Slobknob.

  17. 17

    Well obese women dont alway know they are pregnant because of their weight their hormones are all messed up so a lot of the time they dont even have periods.

    And if they are obese, they arent going to notice a growing belly

  18. 18

    Ha! HA! You F'ing Dolts! Britney Spears and family are Repugnicunts!

  19. Suze says – reply to this


    Ok…let's just say for a second that this woman didn't know that she was pregnant (duh!) …Labor pains are the most unique, intense pain that exist as far as I'm concerned. I'm a mother of two, so I can say from personal experience that there is NO mistaking labor for anything else. Also…. how long was this baby in the toilet to experience brain damage??!? Did she really think that she just had a huge dump so she just sat there for a minute while this baby sank in the toilet water? (yuck) This is a bullshit case. If she wins, our legal system needs to be overhauled pronto!

  20. 20

    Re: LettyB
    YAY!!! i loves a hater!!

  21. 21

    Even though she was overweight, could'nt she feel the baby move at some point? Another reason why peopleshould not be overweight.

  22. 22

    i'm confused. was the baby's brain damage caused by near drowning or cocaine use? either way, it's the mother's fault! what, she didn't know that a huge CHILD just slipped out of her vagina and into the toilet and so didn't pull it out? okay, maybe she didn't know she was pregnant, but how did she not know she had just squeezed a child out of her vagina? that's ridic. she could have pulled it from the toilet the moment it fell in.

  23. Suze says – reply to this


    Also, another little gem I forgot to mention…"Lumley had traces of cocaine in her bloodstream when she gave birth, the lawyer said; substance abuse could have clouded her awareness"….um…and possibly repeaded drug use while pregnant could have caused the baby to develop brain damage in utero. If she wins this case, I'll eat poo.

  24. 24

    She's sueing the hospital!! It is her fault for being so stupid! If she didnt even know she was pregnant and didnt know she was in labour, why would anyone check for that! OH well ur having abdominal pain huh…well lets do a vaginal exam to rule out contractions from a pregnancy that u may or may not have..REALLY! If they did tests and shit they would have seen them in blood work if she was pregnant.. & i JUST LOVE how the baby almost drown in the toilet! wouldnt she have known something the size of a football was coming out of her vagina! she would of had time to call for a nurse she wouldnt of pulled her pants down and it just fall out..THEN once it comes out maby u could TAKE IT OUT of the toliet so it DOSNT almost drown…like really some people just AMAZE me! fuckin douche bag

  25. 25

    No kidding, I could just tell a difference in my body, whether I was showing or not. I knew something was up enough to take a damn pregnancy test, fucking ignorant dumb ass!

  26. 26

    The last sentence says it all: "This woman doesn't know she's pregnant, but somebody else should." Insane.

    And yes, you have to be completely high on cocaine permanently to not realize you're pregnant. Since this woman had drugs in her system, who is to say it's not the drug use that is causing the child's problems?

  27. 27

    I'm a mom of 2 , an I would know if I was pregnant. Lady Needs to Lose some weight .. stupid Bitch ..

  28. 28

    Re: Suze – I am soooo with you! How can you sit there and push and not notice that there's a baby coming out and not poo? Dayyym!!! Sure giving birth feels a little like taking a huge dump LOL! but the sheer magnitude alone should have tipped her off! Frig- the imagery!

    This woman is an idiot! Yes lady… it is everyone else's fault that you have no idea that you are knocked up. I can't undertstand how you can miss any of those signs! Ya and her cocaine use would have nothing to do with that?

    And who knows…maybe if they had been able to "check" her (which it sounds like they wanted to) they would have noticed that she was in labour, but she was probably kicking and screaming bloody murder and wouldn't let them.

    This one really takes the cake!

  29. 29

    Of course, everybody knows how to have sex but funny enough nobody knows the consequences/prevention.

  30. 30

    Ever think the cocaine could be the blame for the kids issues? And who cut the cord? I didn't think babies started to breathe on their own until after the cord was cut, and why didn't she get the baby out of the toilet? Stupid Bitch.

  31. Bree says – reply to this


    How can you sue the hospital though? Due to her size, and her not saying she was pregnant, why would you look for signs of labor first?!

  32. 32

    I don't think that he will suceed with this unless he gets an overly simpathic jury. Not if he goes in with she did not know she was pregnant but they should have known. Anytime I have gotten an xray or have been in the emergency room, they have always asked if I was pregnant, the date of my last period, etc. I am sure she stated that there was no way she was knocked up. And some people refuse the bedpan and insist on the bathroom. And if you watch discovery health, once in a while they run a show 'I gave birth and I did not know I was pregnant.' Anyway, there are call bells in the bathrooms, even in shock she should have pulled it.

  33. 33

    Did they ever think the baby has problems because the mother was doing coke while she was pregnant?? Obviously it's the hospitals fault not the coke in her system.
    All those crack babies out there should sue the hospitals where they were born also. Hospital negligence………….not drugs inutero……….THAT's what the problem is

  34. 34

    Why should the hospital be sued for the mother's craziness? Let me tell you something, I have 4 children and had 1 miscarraige so a total of 5 pg. There is NO WAY you can mistake a baby moving around as GAS from about 6 months on. She didn't have her period for over 8 months but never bothered to take a pg test? Continued to use cocaine (plus whatever else) and is now looking for the hospital to pay for the baby's medical needs? That woman should be held responsible for endangering the life of her child, not an ER nurse for letting her use a bathroom before a diagnosis was made. Maybe it's time for the judges to start throwing cases that are a waste of the courts time out and making the prosecutor pay for the wasted time. I bet then the courts would see a lot less traffic.

  35. 35

    I had my first ultrasound with my son at the ER in that hospital.
    I can honestly say, the nurses and staff there are highly incompetant (at least the ones I delt with) and I didnt even get discharged, they let me walk out without paying my co-pay so it shows you how unaware they are of shit around that hospital.

  36. 36

    And people wonder why the cost of healthcare is so expensive?? Seriously? You have people like this lawyer who are sue happy. He's not even suing on behalf of the mother…he just decided he'd like to sue a hospital and walk away with 60% of the settlement. This guy sounds like an ambulance chaser to me.

  37. 37

    I don't buy it. 2 1/2 years to sue? Get real. Should have been done immediately. Here's the gist of the conversation when she arrived at the ER –

    Nurse: Any possibility that you are pregnant?

    Idiot: Oh hell no.

    Nurse: OK - however we'll run a test just to be sure….

    Idiot: Whatever….can I go to the john?

    The rest is a lawyer's dream - one that should be disbarred, and mom should be arrested.

  38. 38

    ggrrr all these comments are so stupid this situation is very very possible. if little 18 year olds can believe theyre not pregnant, how hard could it be for a fat woman?! and if you had terrible pain in your stomach, you wouldn't just assume you were in labor! especially if you didn't think you were pregnant!

  39. cmd08 says – reply to this


    So sad…just absolutely horrible. That poor baby has to suffer because of her stupid mom and uncaring hospital people. I'm glad that someone stood up for that baby. And people, please stop making EVERYTHING about Obama or McCain. This is much higher and much more important than a stupid election.

  40. cmd08 says – reply to this


    I just realized this little girl is only a couple weeks younger than my son and she's just now starting to speak, that is just so sad. I think the mother should be prosecuted as well as the hospital. I've actually known a woman though that was heavy set and didn't know she was pregnant until she went into labor. But she knew something was wrong and predicted it was labor. Can you imagine how freaked out she was? It's like "oh hey, you're going to have a baby in 10 mins, hope you're ready" Some women don't have regular periods, and I've actually heard of some women having 'light periods' throughout their pregnancies. It's not normal so it sounds crazy to us, but it happens. It's just horrible that the child has the suffer from the stupidity of her mother and hospital. This little one will certainly be in my prayers…and I hope the lawyer wins the case for the child. It said he's suing on the child's behalf which means it'd go to her, right? If that's the case, which is should be, I hope that he gets all he can from that place.

  41. 41

    well i know that it isnt the hospitals fault, she should have known she was preggers, fat or not. I am the mother of a litle boy and there is no way, no matter how fat you get, that cannot distinguish labour pains from any other pain. Its unique in (a) the way they are tmed and start to get quicker and (b) the way the pain increases and grows in strength.
    i just hope that the little girl gets some one to be responsible, because lets not forget that in the middle of ll this is a little baby needing life long care, and you guys in America dont have an NHS, do you? so someone better pay???

  42. 42

    Ok, hasn't anyone thought that maybe the child's health problems can probably be attributed to the fact that the fucking dumbass woman didn't know she was pregnant (seriously, how the fuck do you not feel a little alien kicking your insides around?) and she was doing coke and god knows how much drinking.

    i don't think it's the hospital's fault at all. this woman should have known better.

  43. 43

    wow she must have a huge vagina

  44. 44

    ok, i can understand being soooo fat that you didn't know, but when you didn't have a period for almost 9 months? shouldnt that make it a little obvious? and to have coke in your system?? WTF????????

  45. 45

    That is not the worst of it.
    Casey Aldridge got the woman knocked up!

  46. 46

    That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. I swear, people in this country will sue over ANYTHING. The woman had been doing cocaine while pregnant, then delivered a kid with brain damage, and she wants to blame the hospital?! Oh please. Why didn't she reach in and get the kid out of the toilet once she had it? Why leave it in there long enough for it to almost drown? I'm sorry, I've had 2 kids, and you absolutely KNOW when you are giving birth. Why didn't she call for help? They do have emergency cords in hospital bathrooms. Idiot.

  47. 47

    I hope the hospital wins, people who are stupid as fuck don't deserve to win in court, bu tthey usually do anyway. How can you not know you're fucking pregnant? If you're sitting on the damn toilet, can't you realize something the size of a baby is comin out of you? I'd hope at 46 you know the difference between taking a shit and pushing something big out of your vagina. Stupid bitch.

  48. 48

    isn't the lack of period already a sign that you're pregnant?!!!

  49. MP says – reply to this


    How about personal responsibility? Just another frivolous lawsuit. When this lady LOSES her court case, they should make her pay for all the court costs.

  50. 50

    there is no way they can say the doctor's neglected this child. how are you going to prove that the treatment or lack there of caused brain damage. why isn't the fact that the mother had cocaine in her system to blame? the pregnancy test was ordered and the fact that it had not been performed doesn't matter. if they asked her if she was pregnant and she said no, whose fault was that? the doctor ordered the test anyway and how do you know she didn't deliver the child before the test was done. once the baby was delivered there would obviously be no need for the test. if you want to sue someone, sue the mom.

  51. 51

    People in America find the weirdest shit to sue for….

  52. 52

    Pfth… as if the cocaine in the mother's system wouldn't help cause brain damage? What a fucking moron.

    The hospital shouldn't owe the woman a cent. It isn't their fault that she didn't know she was pregnant, and it isn't their fault she decided to go to the toilet. Did she not call for help? Couldn't she reach down and take the baby out of the toilet herself?

  53. 53

    Re: Suze – That's only true if you've actually had a baby. I'm a woman and I have no idea what they feel like, or how intense they are.

    I HAVE had some really bad pains that have left me doubled over, but I have no way of knowing if it compares.

  54. 54

    Re: katgoddess – May not be a definate sign, but any rationale person would certainly go to a dr or clinic to have it checked out. Also, that baby was head first in the water for at least 4 minutes. What the hell was the mother doing….that she didn't pull it out. Why is she not in jail for child endangerment, abuse, neglect, stupidity, etc?

    What judge is going to accept this lawsuit.

  55. 55

    It happens more than you'd think, mostly to really fat people. haha. expecially if fat women are told they cant get pregnant & then they do get pregnant, they dont notice I guess… haha

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    well maybe the coke had "something" to do with the brain damage!? the story is too shakey. there is NO such thing as mistaking a child coming out of your vagina for taking a shit! & its odd that they think the baby got brain damage from the toilet… if the embilico cord is still attached then the child IS recieving Oxygen from her mother!!! The mother should NOT have left the baby in the toilet long enough for brain damage to occur. trust me there is NO mistaking child birth for anything else, the drug addicted mother caused the brain damage & she almost costed that child its life by not removing her from the toilet immediatly….wtf. stupid fat people.

  58. 58

    As a mother (and pregnant right now) I can undersnd how you can stay in the dark for a pretty long time. especially if you are fat to begin with (like I am) the absence of period could be over looked I suppose, and you may not have symptoms…..But once you hit six months and the kid starts KICKING????? How the hell do you deal with that?!? I cant even begin to imagine what excuses you would me for yourself then!!

  59. 59

    that crack bitch should be shot. i think the courts should laugh at her and the hospital shouln't pay one cent. obvi she has money for coke, but not her BABY?! puh-leez

  60. 60

    Re: fghjkl – eww she must have a huge vag not to notice..

  61. 61

    this happened to a friend of mine.. minus the toilet part.

    her baby turned out okay.

  62. 62

    this is so stupid.. it had to be the drugs or something… cause i am an overweight woman.. i had two kids being overweight and i flipping knew i was pregnant before i even missed my period.. ok so i have very strong intuition.. but HULLo… your period stopped… clue number one… you feel like crap for 3 months at least in the beginning.. and you start to feel like you have an alien inside of you !! that is NOT something you can call gas pains… she was just in denial…

  63. 63

    ummmm….dumb ass lady! Did she think because she was 46 that she went through menopause without knowing it? Must have been all the drugs!

  64. 64

    drowning my ass, you know when a baby head is coming out, call a damn nurse and get off the toilet! theres a reason why they got pull cords in hospital bathrooms! maybe she never had a kid to know what pregnancy is like, and at 48 chances are she thought she was going through menopause with the absense of her period but man how lame is she. The coke caused the brain damage and nothing else. At not speaking aat 13 months is no big thing, my 2 year old did not even say 1 word until 18 months now she wont shut her pie hole :) and i love it

  65. 65

    Bitch knew. Babies KICK and KICK and KICK. Plus, how do u not know a baby is coming out of your vagina?

  66. 66

    how in the hell do you now know you're pregnant.
    honestly .. how FUCKING STUPID can you be not to know that.

  67. 67

    Haha, that's just messed up. Looks like that woman AND her doctors are pretty stupid.

  68. yup says – reply to this


    Gee, you think the coke might have caused he birth defects???????
    I'd love to be a juror on this case.

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  70. 70

    I know a chick that didn't know she was pregnant and had it on a toilet seat. It happens people!

  71. 71

    I wasn't going to comment until I saw how stupid some people are. She is to uneducated to win this case. A baby can survive in water as long as the umbilical cord isn't cut. They get their oxygen through the cord and as long as they are still attached they think they are still in utero. And if the mother cut the cord with the baby in the water (which she wouldn't have), that was her own negligence and not the hospitals. Also, having a child feels like you are being slaughtered from the inside out. It is terrible. I've had two kids.

  72. 72

    I actually believe this. But, what a dumbass to sue when she was cracked out.

  73. 73

    She was using coke, and and as rule of thumb, most coke users use other drugs and alcohol. It is her fault that the baby has any neurological problems just based on that. Doctors can only know what the patient tells them about their symptoms (most nurses on the other hand…that's a different question) and if a stupid fat woman comes in complaining of abdominal pain, pregnancy is one of MANY things it could have been. It is not the hospital's fault, and this lawyer is stupid. Stupid cokehead fat lard.

  74. 74

    As an overweight woman, there's no mistaking the movement of a baby in your belly. It was very clear when my daughter was moving around. Babies kick and you honestly can't miss that. This isn't a case of an overweight woman not knowing, she just didn't want it to be. She was in serious denial. Also, not all overweight women miss their periods. One would think that after missing so many months of a period, she'd have gone to the doctor.

  75. Suze says – reply to this


    Re: mynameis – normally, I would agree with you, but in this case, you'll just have to trust me. Should you ever decide to become pregnant, and you start experiencing labor…you'll know. Not at first probably…but eventually there's no mistaking it. It's like clockwork…and it gets worse and worse until you feel like you're being repeadedly run over by a truck across your belly. (Fun!) Then there's the "crowning" which they also (rightfully so) call "the ring of fire". Yeah. You can't get past that…or mistake it. Couple this with the fact that the woman said she hadn't had her period for 8 1/2 months…and she gained a bunch of weight. Somewhere between the intense cramps and giving her kid her first "bath" she should have figured it out. She's just a dumb druggie.

  76. 76

    She was also 46- she might have thought she was hitting menopause and not having a period anymore.

  77. 77

    Right..so the morning sickness, belly growing, water breaking, and contractions weren't signs….

  78. 78

    JL has big boobies lolz

  79. 79

    that reminds me of the book i just read; plain truth by jodi picoult

  80. 80

    there is one baby in town called the bungey baby… this huge, nasty bitch - total white trash, missing teeth, dumb as fuck - went to the local er with pain, and she told them she wasn't pregnant. like i said, she's got the mindset of a 6 year old (maybe), so she really didn't know. as soon as they set her up on the table with the stirrups and shit the baby flew out and the only thing that kept it from hitting the floor was the cord. i know that sounds like total bullshit, but i swear it's true. the sad thing is she already had 3 or 4 kids, so you'd think she'd have known that she was knocked up this time too, but she didn't. :| it's almost funny…

  81. 81

    People really need to stop being so critical and harsh on each other. You don't know the woman, you don't know her circumstances, and you definitely have no clue what she's been through. There is a lot of misunderstandings about pregnancies. Many people don't realize that when you are pregnant you might still get your period or that you might not show until the last two months. You have no clue what she went through while carrying her child or having her. You ignorant people need to think before you speak. You may think you know everything and that she's the dumb one, but you all are rude and sound extremely stupid for judging this person that you don't know.