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California Supreme Court Upholds Discriminatory Proposition 8

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This just in….

The California Supreme Court has voted to uphold Proposition 8.

Gay and lesbian residents of this state will continue to be treated as second-class and not have access to the same rights, privileges and protections that married heterosexual couples have.

Sad. Sad. Sad.

Institutionalized discrimination!

Update: The one glimmer of good news is that the 18,000 gay marriages that took place while it was legal in California will continue to be recognized and remain valid.

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289 comments to “California Supreme Court Upholds Discriminatory Proposition 8”

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  1. 1

    AWFUL. i hate discrimination of any kind. why does a small group of people think that it can define love for everyone?



  2. 2

    So what? It's not like you can't live there anymore.
    And you talking about discrimination is a laughing stock.



  3. 3

    So Sad… Never actually knew that gays couldn't marry in certain states in america before I started read the site. Dunno What it is in france (I live in france)



  4. 4

    BOO!



  5. 5

    this is bullshit…..I'm so let down.



  6. 6

    So dissapointing!!!!!



  7. 7

    I was saddened to see this. When will the US realize it is about human rights? I'm glad once again that I live in Canada.



  8. 8

    that is such sad news



  9. 9

    sooo pissed



  10. 10

    sad



  11. 11

    That sucks! What's wrong with Cali?

  12. Laura says – reply to this


    12

    Dude, that sucks - but I'm over it. Theres nothing left anyone can do until obama's 2nd term in office.



  13. 13

    Very sad indeed



  14. 14

    im very upset with this decision



  15. 15

    Boo.



  16. 16

    I am so sad.



  17. 17

    BOO!!! What a disappointment! :(



  18. 18

    i cant belive the allowed this to happen im moving to the east coast im not going to give the state of california any of my taxes fuck this state been with my partner 8 years and this is how im being treated



  19. 19

    just when you think that this country is starting to make progress and learn tolerance prop h8 is upheld. what a sad day.



  20. 20

    My friends we fought long and hard to keep marriage to what God wants it to be and that is between a man and a woman. Good work to all of those who fought hard to keep sanity in a mostly insane state. Good job people. Go God!!!



  21. 21

    18,000 marriages will remain legal. The issue will go before voters again. It's about winning the hearts and minds of your neighbors.

    Many civil rights battles are still being waged. Black and Hispanic homebuyers still face redlining and bank discrimination, job discrimination, poor school choices. Appalachia awaits services the rest of the country takes for granted (dental care, garbage pick up) and needs jobs for its people. Native Americans are still desperately poor.
    A lot of attention has been given to the gay marriage quest. But this is not the most pressing civil rights battle in America. The media glare has been disproportionate.
    Millions of other Americans are struggling right alongside the gays. We need real solidarity.



  22. 22

    wondered how long it would take you to post this



  23. 23

    I'm not gay, but this is BULLSHIT



  24. 24

    It's ridiculous that America will not evolve from stupid ingrained beliefs…evolve or dissolve.



  25. 25

    hate that people are so closed-minded



  26. 26

    Re: vengance – Are you naive or just stupid



  27. 27

    this is so upsetting.



  28. 28

    This is just not right. Sad.



  29. 29

    Fight for the rights, not the title.



  30. 30

    i'm so sorry to hear that!
    love is love
    people who can't see that are morons!
    keep fighting the good fight!
    equality for ALL!

  31. jkf says – reply to this


    31

    finally, now lets talk about celebrities on this site and drop all of the gay talk



  32. 32

    fuckers



  33. 33

    NOOOOO!
    that is so sad!
    :(
    this is fuckin CA! i'm ashamed to say i live here.



  34. 34

    I just don't understand how so many people still try and justify this vote.. Its NOT ABOUT MARRIAGE.. its about rights… simple human rights.. Think about all the things that they could control?? We were moving forward with Obama and they put this into effect ? Prop *8 .. whats next ? no interractial marriages ?



  35. 35

    disgraceful.



  36. 36

    Well, at least 18,000 people remain "married".



  37. 37

    I think it's kissmet…your state didnt think it should help the auto workers…not your problem! But when it comes to your poor ass state, you think it's everyone's problem! People there are f'd up! Nice, see what happens when you have a state full of narcissism!



  38. 38

    Boo! Hiss!!

    Ugh, they had such a great chance to make a change. Stupid high court.



  39. 39

    oh poo



  40. 40

    WTF???
    this is so unfair



  41. 41

    I want to know what makes "homosexuals" think that this will ever change? I'm not for or against it, I'm indifferent for sure. But do you really think this is going to change how the world works and how they look and gays & lesbians? There's too many people in the world that think its wrong and it should never be accepted. That's how it is and how its always going to be. I hate it, but its true.



  42. 42

    So then if a proposition went on the ballot saying that hispanics, or Catholics, or Mormons can't get married, and it passed, that would also become law in Ca.



  43. 43

    This really saddens me. I thought our government was for equality. Fight on because it took the Civil Rights crusade a couple of setbacks before they prevailed. I'll fight with you!



  44. 44

    Weep!
    .
    At least those previous marriages will be valid.
    .
    Heartbreaking!
    .
    DO NOT GIVE UP!



  45. 45

    Re: vengance – Mentally retarded, party of one, your table is ready.



  46. 46

    Re: njpaul129 – Your an idiot ..



  47. 47

    It is no different than not being able to get on a girlfriends insurance policy.
    wahhhh wahhh wahhhhh



  48. 48

    Re: Laura – WORD!



  49. 49

    The people have spoken , the courts have ruled. LET it go!!! Are you a policitian or a celebrity blogger. Perez is Fat!



  50. 50

    Re: vengance

    Your post will be deleted! Bye!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

    PRAISE THE LORD!



  51. 51

    I think Californians should really consider voting out everyone, that had anything to do with this. We all have a right to marriage whether it is a happy one or not. It will happen, don't you worry. EQUALITY TO ALL!

    All my love form Chicago

  52. RJP3 says – reply to this


    52

    Perez … I do not see this anywhere else yet ?
    Where are you getting your info??

    I fully expect this to change in the future Far Right Wing Fascist Religious people are always the enemy of Freedom and Equality.

    From the Jews, to the Blacks, to the Women to the Gays.
    Just so sad there are Jews, Blacks and Women who CHOOSE to forget
    religion was used against them - and then use it as a weapon to support the Straight Supremist Movement.



  53. 53

    UGH!!!!!! How terribly disappointing!!! People - it's not about keeping people from doing what they want to do or keeping an "institution" sacred… it's about FREEDOM OF CHOICE which is something that we have in the United States. It is no one's business to tell me who I can and can't marry! I'm a straight girl who feels like all of my options have been cut short because the United States wouldn't even back me (a tax paying citizen) if I did decide to have a relationship with a woman. God. This is such a disaster, and fifty years from now all of this will seem so silly and stupid. Spreading hate and discrimination does not keep the institution of marriage sacred - it destroys the very foundation of what marriage is meant to be, the conjoining of two people for a lifetime. Think about it.



  54. 54

    I wasn't suprised. Really not. But I am glad that they allowed the 18K who were married to be able to remain that way.



  55. 55

    Re: Spindoc – Don't give up hope.



  56. 56

    so much for all men created equal.
    i just dont understand.
    love is love.



  57. 57

    Sad that people have to even fight to be equal… were so past discrimination huh thanx Obama



  58. 58

    On what basis does any court have the right to deny civil rights to anyone?
    They screwed themselves by saying they would let the ones already done stand up as legal. They want it both ways, but they can't do that. Legally, if they are allowing the ones already married to be legal, they have to permit others. You watch this isn't over. If a person gets married in another state it will be legal in California. This is rotten. Totally rotten. This requires a real, kick ass fight. But a smart fight. A hearts and minds fight.



  59. 59

    well that just sucks mayor balls….

    really….

    I don't live in the US, but this still sucks and is unfair!



  60. 60

    Hey, I have an idea…if this ever passes let's get all single male college students to marry each other to make themselves eligible for grants and tax benefits and then once they graduate, they can suddenly be cured of gayness and get gay divorced until such time that they need more federal grants or tax cuts…In fact, why stop there? Lets have brothers marry their sisters, too (we can't discriminate against them now, can we???). Hey, this will work great…



  61. 61

    Re: MsCherryBomb

    AMEN!



  62. 62

    Re: karensneversober – It's not a small group of people, it was 52% of the voters. What needs to happen is people need to be educated and stop using an interpretation of the bible to discriminate.



  63. 63

    One day people will look back at this day aand decision with the same sadness and shame as slavery and women’s inability to vote.
    Slavery was outlawed, even though so many people supported it.
    Women were eventually were given the right to vote, although so many people though that we shouldn't.
    Gay unions will be accepted one day! It's just another step in fighting discrimination and bigotry.



  64. 64

    Headline should read: California Supreme Court Holds State Constitution to be Constitutional

    Move a long, nothing to see here, this ruling was a no brainer and should come as a surprise to no one.

  65. RJP3 says – reply to this


    65

    "That's how it is and how its always going to be>"

    That is weakness and that is also wrong.
    I have been married to a man I was with for 5 years in Massachusetts.
    The sky has not fallen - the Straight Supremists still hate.

    Marriage Equality is coming for all … the Straight Supremists will just fight tooth and nail to keep THEIR SPECIAL RIGHTS.



  66. 66

    So heartbroken.



  67. 67

    So in effect California has two different types of gay people now, the 18,000 who are recognized as 'Married', and the ones who won't get that chance. That sounds constitutionally challenging, whether you agree with Prop 8 or not.



  68. 68

    Re: TORTEZ

    its not evolving.

    two men or two woman can't produce a baby so how the hell can they evolve? tolerance of homosexuality will always be a problem you can't just breed it out of an entire race



  69. 69

    the trouble is that people still love to hate one another, you can either be in denial and think that will ever stop or realize that human nature includes hatred toward those who are different. That will never end unfortunately some naive few think one day everything will be rosie for ever and ever. STOP HATE



  70. 70

    damn now my goal of having several wives has been set back….first gay marriage then multiple marriages is how I see my plan working out



  71. 71

    This is heartbreaking.



  72. 72

    Re: Laura – Why does it take Obama a second term to do anything about it?



  73. 73

    i don't even live in california, and this is absolutely heartbreaking to me.



  74. 74

    Re: bectacular

    love is love

    and marriage is between a man and a woman

    its that simple



  75. 75

    We're going to be hearing about this for the next 3 months….

    Why do they uphold this prop but overturned prop 187? (Google it, I'm not explaining it here)



  76. 76

    so wrong!!!!!!!!

    so sad !!!!!!!!!



  77. 77

    Re: SoCal – Actually, there are several hundred. Besides, imagine if 40 years ago, when interracial marriage was made legal, if they had said "ok, but let's call it something different and only give you most of the same rights…" Laughable!



  78. 78

    Re: MsCherryBomb – Um.. You should get you facts straight before you write a long dissertation on the meaning of Marriage. This is Webster's definition:
    Main Entry:mar·riage
    Pronunciation:\ˈmer-ij, ˈma-rij\
    Function:noun
    Etymology:Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry
    Date:14th century
    1 a (1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage b: the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c: the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
    2: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected ; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
    3: an intimate or close union



  79. 79

    california really does suck now in every way !!!

    so wrong !!!

    now what can we do ?



  80. 80

    Fuck the haters and fuck the "god" THEY are worshiping. Fucking intolerant people are dumb as hell. Well they'll all be dead one day, so let's hope that today's children grow up to be more empathic and tolerant than we are.



  81. 81

    Well Perez, you make heteros out to be second class citizens and discriminate against them



  82. 82

    so sad and it sucks!!!!

  83. MP says – reply to this


    83

    Why should the court overrule the votes of the people? That's not how our country is supposed to work. I think if gay people fought for civil unions instead of "marriage" they would have a much easier time getting all the rights and protections afforded to married people.



  84. 84

    sorry perez. i think it'll happen someday?? who knows.

    good luck.



  85. 85

    this country is getting worse and worse…



  86. 86

    Re: njpaul129 – Hi stupid. Hitler called and he wants his personality back.



  87. 87

    bullshit!! cant belive…



  88. 88

    I was so hoping it would go your way………..Just so you would finally SHUT THE FUCK UP about it. I like coming to your site, but am so tired of your personal fights being shoved down my throat CONSTANTLY! I will be back in a few days, as I have no doubt THIS is all you will write about for that long! Shit!



  89. 89

    Absolutely upsetting!! Awful awful awful!



  90. 90

    Re: trimspaRe: MsCherryBomb – could you imagine if they had called interracial marriage something different when that became legal in the US just 40 years ago? Interracial Unions. Sounds silly, huh?



  91. 91

    Re: MsCherryBomb

    word!!! totally right on!!!



  92. 92

    Time to start a recall effort on the judges that voted for hate both twice,we must gather money and signatures and recall them now.



  93. 93

    prop 8.

    california gay marriage.

    some people should NOT be marry at all.

    That's why I don't have a ring on my finger.

    It doesn't feel right.



  94. 94

    In another 30-35 years all the homophobic, pro-jesus-anti gay persons will be a dying breed and good riddance…its sad that we dont see equality now but i know we will see it in our ilfetime perez so keep up the good fight not only for gay rights but for all rights.



  95. 95

    Today i am ashamed of being a Californian!



  96. 96

    Re: poopdiddy2008 – WOW! Yes, because intelligent people like you won't keep breeding or anything. THAT'S the real shame. Get in your car, turn it on, close the garage door, and take a long nap!



  97. 97

    perhaps Mario if you would keep your fat pigfaced ass out of these issues they might pass…………..



  98. 98

    Issues of equality aside, we live in a democracy. In our system, it comes down to the will of the majority. Regardless of slim margins, the majority of voters in the state of CA voted to pass Prop 8. The people spoke! I do think that gay marriage should be legal, but I don't think the issue needs to rest in the hands of a group of judges legislating from the bench by overturning the collective voice of the citizens they serve. I think they made the right decision. And instead of making the court the villain, start working to swing that majority. It's democracy- love it or leave it!



  99. 99

    DISGUSTING! I don't understand how people can hate other people for NO reason. I am a straight married mother and I voted against prop 8 rallied against prop 8 and supported it because I think that everyone who is in love should have the right to get married the same way I did! NO ON PROP H8!!!



  100. 100

    Perez, I know asking you a serious question on these boards is like taking a leak in a hurricane, but here goes: How do you feel about legalizing polygamy (not the underage stuff, just between consenting adults)? I'm not cultural anthropologist, but I would think there's more societal precedence for that in the cultures of the world than there is for gay marriage. I ask because when I ask prop 8 opponents I know that question, their response is usually something to the effect of "that's not natural, that's not the same, that's sick." Sound familiar?

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