Prop 8 Reactions: Elton John Chimes In!
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Sir Elton John, who married his Canadian partner David Furnish the first day civil partnerships were allowed in England, spoke to etalk in Canada about the ruling today, saying:
“That's just awful. I mean when you see places like Iowa saying yes and there's now five states [in favour] in America…and California is supposed to be a progressive state it just defies logic to me and I’m very disappointed with that."
Very well said, Sir!
[Image via WENN.]
Posted: May 26, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Religious people: You are hateful. Gay marriage is a civil rights issue that should NOT be subjected to people's opinions.
The STATE is secular and should NOT discriminate (not on the behalf or homophobic, religious and cultural groups). It's the tyranny of the majority.
Would the state ask Christians to decide on whether Muslims should be allowed to practice their religion, vote or hold government offices? No!
In the 1970s, 70% of Americans thought laws banning interracial marriages should be upheld. The state, rightfully so, did not listen to the public because it was a Civil Rights issue.
I'm very sorry to hear that prop 8 was upheld in California, seems to me that since gay marriage is legal in Canada and has been for some time that maybe it's time you come visit us in B.C.! Best wishes in carrying on your fight for equality!
California is the new Alabama… shame on California.
MAR'RIAGE, n. [L.mas, maris.] The act of uniting a man and woman for life; wedlock; the legal union of a man and woman for life. Marriage is a contract both civil and religious, by which the parties engage to live together in mutual affection and fidelity, till death shall separate them. Marriage was instituted for the purpose of preventing the promiscuous intercourse of the sexes, for promoting domestic felicity,and for securing the maintenance and education of children.
This is America, the voters determine if we change the law. Right, wrong or indifferent that's the way it is.
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As a side note PerezHilton.com is really getting on my nerves anymore. Dude, stick to entertainment. Your constant bitching about things not going your way and harassment of those who disagree with you is really getting old. Give it up.
Damn ununited States,blame it on the Evangenical freaks.
Elton is right…. that is exactly what I thought when this all began. Of all the states, I expected California to be one of the first to support gay marriage.
Damn ununited States,blame it on the Evangenical freaks.
Let's take a page from the great struggles before ours and take to the streets in a show of strength in numbers. Remember the Stonewall uprising in NYC and shake up Cali tonight.
You know, the state supreme court was not deciding whether or not gay marriage was a good thing or a bad thing, they were deciding whether or not Prop 8 was constitutionally sound. The idea that they're being close-minded or backwards is insane, they were judging the issue without bias. Which is obvious since in 2007 the same court decided to legalize gay marriage.
P.S. Marriage is absolutely a religious issue. Since the beginning of civilization people have been going to their religious leaders for marriage, not their government. I have no problem with gay marriage, but I do have a problem with mixing chruch and state. So let's keep them separate, shall we?
P.P.S. Everyone keeps complaining that President Obama hasn't said anything about gay marriage in California. Good for him! This is not only completely beyond his jurisdiction, it is also a state issue.
the people have spoken.
haha I love how he says "I mean when ou see places like Iowa"…. because I'm from Iowa…. and I agree, I thought Cali would be one of the first states to support gay marriage, and NOT Iowa. FYI-I fully support Gay marriage..I have many family members who are gay, friends who are gay, and they deserve the same happiness that everyone else is entitled to!
I LOVE YOU PEREZ!
Where is it written that we Californians set the precedent for everything?
anybody with half a brain knew what that decision was going to be before it came out. why is anyone surprised or outraged? the only thing it was about was whether the proper procedures were followed with prop 8 (they were) and what to do with the marriages that happened before it was passed. in fact, it was a good result on that point. the judges can't just make up the law- the people spoke, a law was passed, and they have to respect it whether they like it or not. if the gay community wants to overturn that, they just need to convince a few more voters and get another prop on the ballot— the law is all about due process and procedure. procedure was followed. that's all this decision was about.
Re: MadderHaddar – You're kidding right? It doesn't really matter why marriage was originally instituted - most of those reasons don't hold up in today's society. United for LIFE? A civil and religious contract for LIFE? Why are people able/allowed to divorce then? Securing the maintenance and education of their children? How about couples who get married with no intention of having children? How about hetero couples who are in no way religious, but allowed to be married in a church…'before god'…what a big joke that is!
The definition of marriage is antiquated.
I am not sure which is worse….the fact that prop 8 was upheld or all the hate that is spewed by the people who leave comments on this website!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
GAY MARRIAGE IS GOING TO BE LEGALIZED IN 3 MORE STATES!!!
I love Sir Elton John.
I think its great all these people are standing up for gay rights.
Re: jebjeb – Exactly.
though elton john is NOT married, he lives in a civil partnership or however this is called in england. it's the same you can (still) get in cali. but i guess you just won't read the facts, will you?
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
EQUALITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!
Re: foxynay – they do - please read the net - gay couples can get "married" in cali. they were able before and now. and cali WAS the first state who did allow gay couples to have rights and gave them more and more.
all this shit the gays are inventing is untrue. i'm curious when people will realize that.
Re: Bones – what are you doing? Going from story to story to post your ignorant sh*t? Get a life! A lot of gays are actually against gay marriage! But I bet your too closed minded to even consider that possibility! Your type will only acknowledge the gays who fit into your little stereotypical box! Heaven help anyone who dares to stray outside the box! And to compare a persons race with a lifestyle choice is really beyond stupid!!! Maybe if you were to climb out of your little box long enough to look around at the great big world around you, you would see articles in the newspaper about "Gay Bishops" and openly GAY PASTORS!! Do you think THEY hate Christians! If so then they pretty much must hate themselves!!
Re: foxynay –
California WAS one of the first states to support gay marriage! The Courts allowed it- the voters just took it away. With all of the gay celebrities, I don't see how they can't just mount their own campaign to get a new prop that repeals prop 8. It was such a close vote, they (gays- hollywood gay celebs with loads of money- all supporters of gay rights) just need to put their money where their mouths are and get a new vote! This is not rocket science- they just need to get people to care and to vote… that's how the other side beat them, and that's how they need to turn it around. Simple as that… and if they can't, then they should move to a more accepting geography. (I know that's not fair, but I think it'd be a bold statement if all of the gay celebrities left town.)
The vote was so close. I can not but think, people were confused and voted incorrectly.
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It needs to be put back on the ballot.
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The turn out in conservative sections of the state was extremely high.
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This should be a major wake up call for lazy asses to stop complaining and get up and vote.
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There is no way this should have happened.
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Re: jebjeb – no, they didn't!
look for: Domestic_partnership_in_California (wikipedia)
the differences to a "normal" marriage are laughable - so no or nearly no rights were taken away.
This is about a Biblical word that defines marriage. Stop acting like it's a fight for equal rights. You can have the same rights just call it something different. A marriage is defined as btwn a man and woman. If all these gays really cared about their 'rights' they would use a different word and put an end to all this. They are so stupid they hurt their own cause and that is precisely why they are failing.
Re: epic –
no they didn't what? you mean the voters didn't take anything away? i don't think the gay community would agree with you, even the ones that are well-versed in the domestic partnership act. i don't know all the specifics between the differences in california's domestic partnership act and actual marriage— but melissa etheridge's comment says stuff about getting to have an alien spouse become a citizen, tax benefits, etc. in any case, regardless of all that- the voters did take something away from the gay community that the courts had granted them. that is indisputable. i see your point, that you can legislate around this and the dpa gave them ALMOST identical rights- but i think most gays find that insulting that they have to take a separate bus. i don't think equating gay rights with racial discrimination is 100% fair, but yes, it is quite similar to forcing them to take a different bus. they might end up at the same destination, but it's not the same thing. they're still being treated differently- and the law does say that different is not equal. and i agree.
Re: SWEETPIECE! – So what if lots of conservatives turned out for the vote? It's their state too, and they have just as much of a right to vote and anyone else. It probably WILL be on the ballot in a few years, but until then the law has been passed and evaluated and reevaluated and looked over plenty. The law is the law, and the only way to change it is if a majority decides so.
Re: Dave – Fuck off bigot, Kill yourself if you can't handle some posts about gay rights,bigoted asshole.
Re: iloveyoucupcake – Well your drunken idiot Bush sure didnt mind using gay people as lightning rods of hate for the southern and republican bigoted votes did he. Obama already came out against prop h8,the republican assault on gay people. Did you forget that or are you uneducated like most homophobes and republican trash?
Re: epic – Actually asshole,gays were allowed to get married because the Ca supreme court gave them that right,the rightwing fascist fundamentalist hate party of republican trash decided to take that right away with an amendment funded mainly by the utah mormon cult of hateful freaks. They ran commericals demonizing and dehumanizing gay people and the republican party gave them phone banks and support ,they aimed their lies at the least educated like the blacks and hispanics and they barely won on a measure of hate with 52-48 , There will be no peace in Ca until everyone has equal rights. The older diseased republicans are dying off and with securing the border we will have less uneducated latinos.
Re: epic – And will trash like you stop lying about civil unions or what they do in England,in england you get federal benefits too,in this country because of the republican trash gays get no federal benefits of straight married couples.also in England gays dont get kicked out of the military for being gay. So stfu bigoted lowlife and stop promoting hate,which is all you are doing.
Re: jebjeb – iListen jerk its more than celebrities,the vote was 52-48 and the majority of whites rejected the hatemongering ammendment pushed by the fundamentalist fascist disgusting REPUBLICAN HATE PARTY. The Ca supreme court,Arnold the governor and the two senators are against prop 8. This assault on gays came from the republican party and the governor of Neveda another dirty lowlife republican just vetoed basic rights for gays that fall short of even civil unions. The republican party was behind this and continues to assault gays on every level from civl unions,to work protections to military etc… The republican party is just a southern party for white trash bigots people .reject them on every level.
uhhh all due respect to Elton, but "places like Iowa" DIDN'T say yes. The supreme courts of places like Iowa said yes without bothering to consult the citizens or allowing for a vote. Again, the right to marriage is NOT a civil right and treating it as such is offensive and perverse. Call me up when homosexuals are being denied jobs or the right to vote because of their sexuality and then and only then will I join them in rioting in the streets.
ELTON JOHN DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN CALIFORNIA!!! why is he speaking up against prop 8??
LMAO!!! the gay lobby and H-wood are freaking out about prop 8 cause they know that there's a high posibility that it will pass
Re: Bones – talking out of your ass, as always. You non-religious people are SOOO hateful. You always say "oh don't judge me, you've no right to do so" yet you have the nerve to be judgemental about us and hateful on our religions. It's not just religious ppl that fight for traditional marriage, there's all types of ppl: non-religious, atheists, agnostics, etC
USA: KEEP FIGHTING FOR THE REAL DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE, BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN!!!!!!
I am shocked that this great state of California, decides once again, it is not so great.
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I hope that it does not continue to slip off the rankings that it has upheld for so long… Elton is right, it defies logic, where is the progressiveness in this decision. Progressiveness is what DEFINES California and this is utterly disappointing.
Re: knowitall –
huh? you need to calm down from your blind rage. i can't imagine why you're calling me a jerk (nor do i care b/c you sound like a fool) unless in your rage you misunderstood something i wrote. the only cite i made to celebrities was in regard to the fact that they need to put up money to help get the prop changed if they don't like it. also, i shouldn't have to say, what CELEBRITIES do gets more press- they can make more of a statement than you can. (and hopefully they're a little less irratic and irrational than you- seriously, take a pill and re-read my comments. nothing was worth the name-calling… you are seriously out of control. help yourself, count to ten, re-read, use a dictionary if you're confused.)
Re: iloveyoucupcake – you are very practical in your thoughts but you do not touch on the idea that all of your civil liberties are up for interpretation by your neighbors and God knows the average American does not really think too clearly. In other words when will we be voting on whether we think it is appropriate to have an interracial president?
Re: knowitall –
btw, it's ironic that you are so hateful toward everyone, including latinos and blacks, yet you're demanding the world accept your minority group. you are a racist, yet you expect people to open their arms and accept you with a loving embrace… wow. i'm not sure why i'm surprised, but i am. you are hurting your cause. you'd be well-advised to shut your mouth before you do more harm to the gay community with your hateful remarks.
Re: Renfamous – Actually idiot homosexuals ARE being denied jobs. Gays can be fired in 32 states just for being gay, gays can't TEACH in some states if they are gay and yes if you are openly gay you cannot serve in the military.
Re: knowitall – The internet!
P.S. lolz
Re: jebjeb – I voted for Obama I voted for Villagrosa ,I'm pissed that the latinos and blacks with their macho homophobic cultures came out in mass force against gay people,and I have every right to say it. But my voting record would indicate that I certainly don't vote with bigotry. I think a liberal place can't keep letting in uneducated minorites from across the border who think gays should be jailed and think that they are going to remain being a liberal place,just like liberal europe will collapse with the infestation of radical islam undermining all of its freedoms and liberal laws which also permitted all of radical islam into europe to begin with.
Re: Bones –
Awesomely said.
Re: lovernotahater – You bring up a good point, but we have to remember that laws are not just voted on once then thrown in to action, it's an ever changing process that includes things like legislation, court rulings, bills, props, etc. So even though some people might have a difference of opinion with issues, the American government is set up so corrections, amendments, changes in general can be made if need be. Gay marriage is now banned from the state of California, but in ten years that might change. People who are sooo angry about today's ruling are forgetting that there's a future, and that's what's most important. Long term consequences will shape us all. Maybe our grandchildren will call us bigots, maybe not. It really depends on where we lead our country.
Also, the country already voted on an interracial president and said "Go for it!" Majority rules!
Re: iloveyoucupcake – You really think anyone is waiting 10 years,you have to be on drugs like rush and ann coulter and the rest of the fcked up neo nazis in your trailer park republican party.
"well said"? For someone with 42 brain cells, maybe. Ungrammatical, and he grew up with PROPER English, not "American" English. What a twit. How does Furnish abide him clothed, let alone (eeek) nekkid??
Re: knowitall –
Did you write that message to prove you're not racist? You proved the opposite, in fact. I won't bother explaining because it seems you don't get it. Good luck with that.
it's a safe bet, that "Sir Elton" and his "husband"
are in an "open" relationship - - - which in it's own essence is NOT a "marriage"
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Congrats Mario! - - your sad display with all things Miss California
related, REALLY put a dent in your sad, sad, "equal rights" endeavor
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face it, most of us voted, and when all was said and done,
and the votes were counted, those of us who voted against you WON
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just like we did today - - AGAIN WE WON! - - - AGAIN YOU LOOSE!
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you can have your equality - - but you CAN'T have the title of "marriage"
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DEAL WITH IT.
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It wrong to pass a law and then bring it to be voted on again and go back on it. It was already allowed! and thats playing with peoples hopes and dreams. Gay marriage doesnt hurt anyone, i really dont see the big deal in letting it happen. If people are legally allowed to marry pets or whatever c'mon…
Oh Reg, you're not even American. Please just keep your pie hole shut. Unless you're singing a song or rimming your partner David you should just keep your mouth shut at all times.
Elton was married to a woman in the 80's for a couple of years. Now he's decided to go gay and he thinks the whole world should agree with his decision. Well the whole world does NOT agree with him. Many people still strongly feel that a marriage should be between a man and a woman only. If a person decides to live a deviant lifestyle they should not expect the rest of society to support their choice.
He should go back to LIMEY TOWN and suck the spunk there.
Re: Miss A85 –
i agree with what you're saying in principle- but it wasn't exactly like that. the COURT enterpreted the laws to say that they allowed gay marriage b/c the laws weren't explicit (i.e., they didn't say, "gay marriage is allowed"). then, b/c it wasn't explicit, the people that are anti-gay marriage started their movement to get it explicitly stated that it was NOT allowed. it's probably more complicated than that- but it's not like the court said one thing, and then another. the court said one thing, then the people demanded a law that says something else. the court has to respect what the people said.
Someone should explain to Mr. John how our country works. The voters have the final say on issues. Unless you live in MA where judges legislate from the bench and don't give people a chance to voice their opinions. It comes down to states' rights. Gay marriage should be put on every state's ballot in the next election cycle so the people can vote yay or nay and that's that.
Please "Sr" do me a fucking favor and get involve in your contry politics, not ours You are not an America and everything we decided here in USA is our problem, not yours. So sut the fuck up!!!!
Please "Sir" do me a fucking favor and get involve in your contry politics, not ours. You are not an America and everything we decided here in USA is our problem, not yours. So shut the fuck off!!!!
Sorry, folks, but until men can naturally have babies, only OPPOSITE marriage will create full social, reproductive and economic equality.
Lesbian marriage gives women all rights to everything, and men have only one right: to pay a huge load of child support and get locked up.
All you folks who think that opposing SSM is hateful better look at the nasty attitudes of lesbians towards men. Take a look at what NOW did to men in America, and why much of Asia thinks we are screwy, and why many Muslim religions go ballistic when we sent planeloads of feminists to sell them "democracy".
The fourth wave of feminism is a crock of crap. If you back the hate the institutional feminists have for men, you are very sick.
Hardly anybody cares who you sleep with. But when you attempt to destroy the equality between the sexes created by heterosexual marriage, you have crossed both the constitution and the entire notion of equality between men and women. Heterosexual marriage is what makes the human race ONE RACE. Politicized lesbianism is a the real hate movement, a separatist-supremacist movement that must be exposed and opposed for what it truly is.
9/11 AND TERRORISM WAS JUSTIFIED BY GOD'S LAW. PROP 8 WAS JUSTIFIED BY GOD'S LAW. THEREFORE, PROP 8 = TERRORISM ON THE SAME SCALE AS 9/11. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Well said Sir Elton!!
Um, Truman Capote once said, and I quote:
"It's a scientific fact that if you stay in California you lose one point of your IQ every year”.
Now, I have to go address little Ms. Kardashithead….
Elton Needs to venture east of LaBrea once in a while. California is NOT progressive outside of a few enclaves, it is filled with conservative, religiously superstitious immigrants who basically hate anyone who isn't them. Expand your perceptions, Elton, the California you remember from the 70's doesn't exist anymore. Se si pueda…
Re: MadderHaddar –
Wow, you can read…amazing! Did you find that in the 17th century? My goodness…I'm sure that all the trashy people popping out kids from one night stands out there are really doing a bang up job at "securing & educating" children!
You're right, we better keep it heterosexuals only! What's the divorce rate again?… We should keep people closeted, they should marry, have kids, & then cheat on their spouses to get what they really want & ruin people's lives. Great idea! Because man/woman relations is the "norm", right?
I could go on and on & I'm not even gay….Get a 21st century grip, seriously!!
Everyone should have the right to be happy! California should be more progressive than this! I dont think that these votes are being counted correctly I just don't see Californians in majority voting like this! recount!!!