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If You Like Cheeseburgers, Natalie Portman Thinks You Might As Well Be A Rapist (Sort Of)

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Natalie Portman is a smart girl. She graduated from Harvard and all.

So you would think she would be smart enough to know that equating people who eat meat to rapists wouldn't work out too well for her.

Yes, we are smart enough to understand that she is attempting to shock people into understanding her point-of-view and doesn't really feel that way, but it is still unsettling.

Natalie submitted an essay to the Huffington Post, discussing her views as a vegan activist and supporter of the radical literature Jonathan Safran Foer's Eating Animals. She goes on the defense of the author's views and her own beliefs, while also digging a hole for herself.

She writes:

"I say that Foer's ethical charge against animal eating is brave because not only is it unpopular, it has also been characterized as unmanly, inconsiderate, and juvenile. But he reminds us that being a man, and a human, takes more thought than just "This is tasty, and that's why I do it." He posits that consideration, as promoted by Michael Pollan in The Omnivore's Dilemma, which has more to do with being polite to your tablemates than sticking to your own ideals, would be absurd if applied to any other belief (e.g., I don't believe in rape, but if it's what it takes to please my dinner hosts, then so be it)."

Dark! Taking things a little too far, if you ask us.

How about from now on, you eat your lettuce and we'll eat our steak and neither one of us brings up rape as a means of comparison?

We think that's the best solution.

CLICK HERE to read the rest of her tirade essay.

What do U guys think about what she wrote?

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440 comments to “If You Like Cheeseburgers, Natalie Portman Thinks You Might As Well Be A Rapist (Sort Of)”

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  1. 1

    Didn't this ho sign the free Polanski treaty?

  2. 2

    Wow…thats a bit much. I still don't see the problem with eating meat. Killing an animal to make a coat (ONLY) is wrong, but for food???? I'll never get it.

  3. 3


  4. 4

    Right on Natalie Portman. Anyone that eats meat is uneducated and heartless. Yep. I said it.

  5. 5

    I can't agree as I'm sure most people won't. At least she cares about something besides herself and is trying to do what she sees as positive.

  6. 6

    As a vegan myself I applaud her for trying to stand up for what she believes is truly right. However I have learned to respect other people's eating habits.

  7. 7

    NOT offensive.

  8. 8

    i agree…I'll eat my meat and you eat your carrots…but let's have respect for both sides…

  9. 9

    Humans evolved to be omnivores. This means eating both meat and vegetable matter. Choosing not to consume animal products is a political decision. I respect that choice. However, I will not stand idly by while someone rants and rails against what is, arguably, proper human behavior. Yes, educate people about the personal choice you have made, but don't even try to tell me eating meat is wrong. It takes a very large ego to attempt to logically argue away years of evolution.

  10. 10

    I think she sneaks chicken nuggets when no one is looking

  11. Laury says – reply to this


    Whoa. Bitch needs to take a chill pill. As an animal lover myself, I don't care too much for meat either, but it doesn't mean that people who eat meat should be treated like criminals. I do understand that she's trying to make a point but she's also taking it way too far. Being smart doesn't give you the right to insult people.

  12. 12

    it makes sense but it's a pretty bad metaphor. The two things are totally different extremities, but I guess in her mind people who eat meat are a much bigger problem than they are in my mind, since I am one of those people.

  13. 13

    What she is trying to say it is if u think is for your desire (even being wrong) not thinking about the other part (the animals - by eating, and the people - by raping). Get yourself together Perez and be less dramatic.

  14. 14

    Perez- didnt you JUST endorse PETA? Since when do you eat steak?

  15. 15

    Being a vegan, I am not offended. I think eating animals is stupid. Just because you want to be on a low carb diet doesn't mean you have to support animal slaughter houses.

  16. 16

    read her entire essay, dumbass. it's not offensive, and i'm sure you wouldn't want teddy to go through the horrors that our "farm" aka factory raised animals go through on a daily basis.

  17. 17

    That's not what she is saying AT ALL. She is criticizing moral relativism and using rape as an example of a moral principle that anyone would chastise if it were subject to a moral relativism test. She isn't conflating rape with eating meat. What you wrote is offensive, not what she said.

  18. 18

    I think she hasn't had a decent acting job for awhile. Oh the celebrities and their opinions.

  19. 19


  20. 20

    I can understand why being a vegetarian or vegan can help save the planet by reducing green house gases from huge government slaughter houses. But A) some people don't have enough money to buy the food required to get all the nutrients the human body needs with out meat B) Meat is far cheaper and far more filling than tofu, and mass amounts of veggies. C) The human brain is made of and requires protein. While we don't need giant steaks, a little bit of meat is very important D) It is considered child abuse to force small children into a vegan diet because it can hinder proper brain and muscle development (imagine giving an infant soy milk rather than regular formula which has lactose from milk) E) What a person eats is a personal choice and Natalie Portman needs to get off her high horse! Just because you have enough money to choose what you eat doesn't mean every one does!!!

  21. 21

    I agree totally. Eating meat is morally equivalent to rape. And it is literally murder.

    Also, animal farming constitutes 18% of greenhouse gas emissions.

    Even knowing this, it took me ages to become vegan. I can't blame anyone who can't handle the truth yet. I raged against it to begin with too.

  22. 22

    Id eat her meat and come back for seconds!

  23. ps says – reply to this


    Natalie's writing is very similar to many of the most celebrated academics out there. It is a ridiculous example, and she uses it well in order to get the reader to understand the absurdity of eating meat just because your tablemates do it. I think she has used the analogy very well. And I'm a meat eater. Your title is extremely misleading Perez, and it comes no where near Natalie's point. Obviously her writing is over your head.

  24. 24

    …. and I ain't readin' that.

  25. 25

    I completely respect and admire the dedication that vegetarians and vegans have, but I think that a lot of the time they really alienate people because they become so extreme in their rhetoric. Not sure how meat eaters automatically fall into the *uneducated* category. Anyhow…these celebrities get into schools like Harvard because of their status! I'm not saying they're not smart, but I'm pretty sure they can go to any school they want to go to. If they weren't celebrities they wouldn't have their pick.

  26. 26

    Sweetie, if you are misunderstaning her point of view in this partial paragraph of her essay, than what does that say about how smart you ARE? read it 3 more times MARIO so you can understand!!! OUT LOUD:)

  27. ps says – reply to this


    Re: abcd123 – well said, thank you.
    Quite a few commentors on here are missing the point.

  28. 28

    pass the A1 sauce… i'm feening a steak right now.

  29. 29

    That was a stupid comment on her part!

  30. 30


  31. 31

    I think that was actually a very well thought out statement. For those of us who do eat meat, I do, we can have difficulty understanding the position of a vegan. She took a stance and very clearly explained in a way that the masses could understand just how strong she feels about that stance. You hate rape, she hates meat. It makes sense.

    P.S. She got all of us to listen didn't she…

  32. 32

    One who has been raped before knows the difference ASS!

  33. 33

    You stupid pig, Natalie is right. Besides, dumbass, aren't you endorsing PETA? How hypocritical are you, that you endorse PETA but eat steak, much like your beloved potato face Dita, who endorse PETA but admitted to eating foie gras.

  34. 34

    Humans were never meant to eat meat…we did NOT evolve into omnivores. We are stll Herbavores. The way we are made up does not support eating meat at all. Hence people getting heart attacks and dying from EATING MEAT. It's not difficult people. Not to mention the corporate greed behind the factory farming industry that not only is disgusting on how they treat the poor animals…but they push a lot of shit under the rug as far as what they are putting in the meat, and what they are passing under the radar. Did you read about the girl who was paralyzed from eating a hamburger?? That's just ONE of the stories that got publicized. It's disgusting, and people that eat meat are disgusting. Do some research.

  35. 35

    Natalie Portman's argument is beyond stupid. The simple FACT is that animals are lower on the food chain than humans. Raping another human being who is on the SAME LEVEL of the food chain vs. eating an animal who is LOWER on the food chain is like comparing apples and oranges. It's an invalid comparison. She may as well have said eating an animal is like eating a human. Just as absurd.
    Note that I'm not saying anything against vegans or meat-eaters…I'm just saying her comparison is INVALID b/c she is not comparing similar concepts.
    Stick to acting Natalie…that you are good at.

  36. 36

    Natalie Portman is a fucking jackass. Go suck on a cucumber, asshole.

  37. 37

    Re: FemaleFilmMajor – Ahem… you must not have children. Many children are required to be on SOY FORMULA because of a LACTOSE ALLERGY, or an inability to break down certain hormones that are in cow's milk. The rest of your rant seemed well thought out though.

  38. 38

    you have completed misinterpreted her analogy perez.

    what she is saying is, the idea that conforming to please people (ie. agreeing to discuss certain topics and views which may not actually be held by that person - I do not believe in God, but I will say Grace before a meal with uber catholic grandparents when the come for XMas dinner) is not held in any other convention of society.

    People generally do not things that are out of their values unless it is in order to take into CONSIDERATION other poeple's values.
    Volaire said it much more succintly with his famous "i do not hold your views but I shall defend to the death your right to have them"

    I didn't read the whole essay but judging from the direction of the quote you took, it sounds like she is trying to argue that consideration is not being given to vegan points of view, but are instead blasted as unmanly, juvenile, etc etc.

    Which, your comment about the sticking to eating salad and you rambling on about celebrities while eating a steak more or less does.
    It nullifies her argument into a trite, comedic line that doesn't prompt the average person to do much more that giggle and move on.

    Fortunately for Natalie, I think the majority of your fanbase are NOT Huffington Post readers because they would have gotten about as much from it as you. ie. like 6 posts on this subject a hundred on Miley being a skank.

  39. 39

    Nite b, 46. You are my "Princess" ;)

  40. 40

    She is 100% correct! I love this woman's brain to death. She writes in a brilliantly staccato way that seems to punctuate her point!

  41. 41

    I don't see what's so offensive about this. She wasn't saying that eating meat is just as bad as rape, she is just using rape as an example of a moral issue to prove her point that wavering on your morals to please others is wrong. She would have to use an extreme example to get that point across, or else the whole analogy would be ineffective.

  42. 42

    Despite popular belief…humans DID NOT evolve into omnivores..we were ALWAYS meant to be herbavores. Look at our teeth and stomach acids…we were not built to digest meat. Hence the fact that people DIE from eating meat. Heart attacks, heart disease, even CANCER can be traced back soley from meat. Grow up and get educated. The corporate monsters behind the factory farming industry are evil EVIL people, and will risk your health to gain a buck. You have no IDEA what you're eating. If you eat meat, you are disgusting. Do some research.

  43. 43

    I agree with what she said, but I don't think she should have said it. Vegans and vegetarians already have a bad enough image as being overly militant and quick to judge. Comments like this from a celebrity just fuel that fire. Flies and honey, you know?

  44. 44

    uhm. she's not comparing meat-lovers to rapists, she's posing an extreme example to explain why it is inappropriate to expect a vegetarian to eat meat just because her host is serving it. Sort of like a hyperbole. Nobody takes you literally if you say you could eat a horse…

  45. 45

    I love her. Next time you eat a steak take a good look at your dog and imagine taking a chunk out of him.

  46. 46

    Maybe if Portman ate a few steaks a week her lower body would catch up to the enormous size of her ugly head. PORTMAN: Got meat?

  47. Arshe says – reply to this


    You practically have to be an amateur nutritionist to become completely vegan, no milk or eggs and such. I see alot of people buying baby food that is only vegetables and fruit for their infants and its kinda scary. Meat is important for brain development, sure you can read a bunch of books on how to get junior his proper nutrition but you are taking a risk. I would be careful on criticizing peoples diets, Natalie Portman has had to many ethics and writing classes and needs more science and child psychology.

  48. 48

    maybe she should go back to wearing expensive clothes and smiling at the bright lights. just sayin…

  49. 49

    The brain is largely made up of fat. Obviously, not eating any fat to keep her brain in shape, has led her to this delusional and poor choice of metaphor

    A better writer would have made the point in a more subtle and didactic way

    eat up girl - feed your brain

  50. 50

    I really don't understand why people who have dogs that they love and adore, still consider themselves animal lovers when they support killing them by eating meat. That's what's so fucked up about our views. It's ok to eat a pig that's smarter than a 3 year old. That's smarter than a dog. But it's so messed up to think of eating a dog. Man this whole thing makes me mad!!!!!!

  51. 51


  52. 52

    im glad she is trying to make people realize that eating meat is a choice, not an obligation.

  53. 53

    Re: sarbear0404 – You're the one who needs to do some research as you don't know WHAT you are talking about.
    Humans were not made to eat meat? We are herbivores? Are you high? FACT: Unlike cows, who can subsist on grass alone, humans CANNOT glean everything they need to survive purely from lettuce and veggies. That's why most nutritionists will make sure vegans and vegetarians have a strict diet including many supplements in order to stay as health as their meat eating counterparts.
    Humans were actually MADE to eat meat hence the type of teeth we have. Humans were actually MADE to eat meat if you know anything about evolution. You are the one who needs to do the research dumbass.

  54. 54

    Re: sarbear0404 – ….Anyone who demonizes another person's personal choice is ignorant and intolerant… Here's a question: You only have a $25.00 food budget for 2 weeks, you have a 2 year old and maybe a husband/wife. You need to feed your family for the next 14 days. What do you buy? 5 pounds of chicken (which can be frozen and rationed with out rotting) at $4.00 a pound or 5 pounds of organic veggies (which rot after a few days) for roughly the same price? Which will keep your family full & content, not hungry? Compare the price of tofu to chicken pound for pound? Do you think that person could afford enough tofu to feed the entire family? Look at the situation just based on price. What about the poor? Do you favor hunger & starvation over meat eating? Those of you who have mommy and daddy buying your food will never understand what it's like to not have an option about what you eat or even what its like to go hungry. It has nothing to do with education, it has to do with the basic animalistic drive to satisfy hunger.

  55. Arshe says – reply to this


    And some of the self righteous posts on how people are not meant to eat meat, well I have never heard of a vegetarian society in the history books. Of course we are meant to eat meat. Sillyness !

  56. 56

    I'm Sorry…but NATALIE, goodness love her…needs to get off her high HARVARD horse…

    NATALIE PORTMAN has probably done more damage to the earth in one year by TRAVELING BY PLANE then the majority of the people ON EARTH do in ONE lifetime….

    I'm Glad she is making her RICH$$$$ friends aware though!!!!

  57. 57

    This woman makes little sense, and the way she explains why she feels the way she does makes her sound more like she just barely made it through 7th grade, than having gone to Harvard! What an idiot.

  58. 58

    You will never ever have people respect you the way people respect natalie Portman, you fuckinh heartless bastard. Perez the pork chop, you are almost as dumb as that fat kid who got maced. why don't you slow down and think about what she wrote for a bit? let it sink in your foolish selfish brain, before you waddle over to your computer?

  59. 59

    Are you serious? If you can define staccato, I will leave you alone….

  60. 60

    Re: sarbear0404 – Again you stupid twit, our teeth and our stomach acids point to the fact that humans WERE MADE TO EAT MEAT.
    As for heart disease, cancer, etc stemming from meat…it stems from RED MEAT WHICH IS RAISED ON A GRAIN FED DIET. Eating meat raised on a GRASS-FED DIET is actually VERY VERY HEALTHY you freaking moron. The problem is that due to overpopulation by people like THE GOSSELINS there isn't enough grass fields for the cows to graze on so they feed them grains instead of grass. This, in turn, produces UNHEALTHY RED MEAT. Do you get it now? (probably not).

  61. 61

    Re: misssammibaby – Right on! lol!!! PETA actually lost my support by taking him on as a spokesperson, as if it's immoral to mistreat animals (which it is), but that it's ok to mistreat human beings (which is not).

  62. 62

    Re: Dave Letterman - staff fucker – Once again I agree with you a thousand percent! I enjoy reading your comments. I wish you the best!

  63. 63

    She is in no way equating eating meat with rape. If you actually use your reading comprehension skills it becomes quite apparent that she is in no form comparing one to the other.

  64. 64

    Shes absolutley right Perez, you ass!

    I think murder is pretty bad, dare I say worse than rape? HELL YES.

    You, Perez, and all you disgusting meat eaters, are guilty of MURDER BY PROXY and are as bad as Natalie says.

    Don't hate just because you're in denial Mario, you know eating meat is DISGUSTING but you keep doing it because you clearly have
    a) no consience
    b) no self control
    c) no concept of a healthy diet

    Props to you, Natalie! Keep up the amazing work!

    And, Perez… FUCK YOU.

  65. 65

    Re: sarbear0404 – Well said!

  66. missB says – reply to this


    She is not saying you might as well be a rapist.. in fact she says "it WOULD BE ABSURD IF APPLIED TO ANY OTHER BELIEF"

  67. 67

    Re: ps – Ha ha ha ha ha "celebrated academics" LOL! You just gave me a good laugh…dumbass. You and Natalie Portman both - dumbasses.

  68. 68

    she's skinny and went to harvard, you trash celebs and aren't exactly healthy svelte…
    is their really an argument. The research speaks for itself despite arguments.

  69. Rynne says – reply to this


    If you find something unconscionable then any mainstream thing that's unconscionable is a great comparison. If I may…"duh".

  70. 70

    Re: TootsieBelle – … Lactose allergies usually don't manifest themselves right away, there is human lactose in breast milk and typically what children are allergic to is bovine lactose (probably because of all the hormones). There could be a very interesting study about the development of children with and with out lactose allergies. But you certainly can not put a newborn & raise a child on a purely vegan diet without seriously damaging their development, thats the point i was trying to make. At a certain age it is possible, but not right out of the womb.

  71. 71

    Re: camaguey – Thanks!! :)

  72. 72

    Re: Dave Letterman - staff fucker
    That's what Hitler said about the Jews. They are less than us, ergo we can do what want to them.

    Compassion works better than these hierarchies. Compassion would have us act in the most caring way possible. It's not about right and wrong.

    In this sense eating meat is not wrong. Neither is rape. However, are they compassionate? That is the real question.

    However, if you decide not to be compassionate that is equally valid. I know what it's like to be an unapologetic sociopath. It's a lonely and unpleasant experience though. Compassion wins for everyone.

  73. 73

    I'm a vegetarian and from my perspective, she does make a point - on the topic of avoiding eating animals - but referring and comparing people who eat meat to rapist is a bit over the top, just sayin'.

  74. 74

    very deep i am
    always like a clam
    so if i say terrible
    it's Always and adjective
    not a parable

  75. 75

    Mario, for someone who bragged recently about how smart they were in their letter to their younger self you are certainly acting more ignorant than usual. Her point was very clear and she did NOT make the point that your weak attention grabbing headline asserts. You're really disgusting sometimes, scratch that, most of the time.

  76. ps says – reply to this


    Re: Dave Letterman - staff fucker – My comment was regarding her style of writing, not her beliefs, which is what you seem to be focusing on in all your comments. I have seen similar analogies used by many writers (some of whom are academics) in order to get their point across. The fact is: it works. Unless, of course, you have idiots reading your writing who totally miss the point. Who's the dumbass now?

  77. 77

    This whole conversation has made me hungry for a big juicy steak. Later! :D

  78. 78

    4, 5, 6
    i bang on my drum kit

  79. 79

    f**k yes natalie portman

  80. 80

    I enjoyed reading the article and believe that since you are a shallow and superficial person, Pumpkinhead, that there is no point in trying to enlighten you. Kudos toRe: abcd123 – and Re: ps – and a couple of others.

  81. 81

    i didn't find her comparison difficult to follow. if you are morally against eating meat, why not speak up about it and not just watch your friends eat a steak in front of you if you believe it is wrong, just like you would speak up (hopefully) if one of your friends were raping somebody.

  82. 82

    Re: HeartsContent – why is it wrong to kill an animal for a coat but not for a burger? same difference.

  83. 83

    you have to make a STATEMENT to make a point, that's what she did.
    HOWEVER, i'll NEVER understand how vegans and vegetarians don't understand the Circle Of Life.
    eating meat because you don't like the taste? fine,
    eating meat because you think it's wrong? really weird.

  84. 84

    what a wonderfully fallacious argument…

  85. 85

    i agree with what she's saying although using an inference can do more damage than good when trying to make a valid argument.

  86. 86

    Re: PistolKitten – co-sign

  87. 87

    Re: sarbear0404 – …this is probably the most ignorant thing i've ever read. Humans actually did evolve to eat meat, that is why our ancestors carried spears! Did u think those things were just cute accessories? No, we don't need mass amounts of meat, but the only reason the human brain is so large and complex is because when our ancestors came down from the trees, they began eating meat & working in groups in order to hunt. This fostered greater and faster brain development! Even Chimps (our brothers/sisters in the animal kingdom) eat meat on occasion, are you prepared to argue that Chimps, who are so like us, are under the influence of government run slaughter houses?

  88. 88

    I love Natalie Portman, & as a vegetarian myself, I fully agree with her statements.

  89. 89

    Re: FemaleFilmMajor – how is is child abuse to raise vegan children?? two differnt couple meat eating friends of mine have children who have to drink soy milk bc of allergies…is this child abuse??

  90. 90

    ummm I am a vegetarian and I struggle with trying to cut down on dairy, and I adore Michael Pollan's Omnivore's Dilemma! Its a concise diagram of the journey your food takes to get to your plate. His research is intense. She is just an extremist.

  91. 91

    Perez, again you are an asshole (or your sister is) as you have no understanding to what an analogy is. She's not even remotely comparing eating meat to being a rapist… her point is the whole "when it Rome" scenario holding true. And indeed it does. BTW, I'm not a huge fan of hers because none of her work ever made me go "wow"… but the girl is literate and extremely cerebral for a Hollyweird elite.

    IF anyhting, this is a classic example of a so called "tolerant" liberal not being tolerant of what SHE doesn't believe in. Well, I shouldn't actually say that… I'm sure she puts up with tons of people who eat meat. But again, I'm not sure.

    If I may remind you, dear Natalie, of your Jewish faith… all is fair in meat eating. Well, no shellfish and no hooved animals. And let's not foreget to separate meat from dairy ya'll!

  92. 92

    Re: PistolKitten

    It's not always political. Some people just don't like it. Believe you me, I enjoy a good cheeseburger or chicken parm when someone else makes it. I'm not a fan of dealing with dead animal flesh myself.

  93. 93

    Re: FemaleFilmMajor – well said :)
    Re: Dave Letterman - staff fucker – love your comments!
    you two said everything that i had going through my mind.

  94. 94

    Re: Love>Hate – You are a bizarre, bizarre invidividual. Since I am Jewish, I will not even bother to acknowledge your busted argument. All I will say to you is that I very much do believe that you "know what it's like to be an unapologetic sociopath". And, like all sociopaths, you have NO IDEA what the word COMPASSION even means. That's why you are so messed up in trying to articulate it. Being a (self-admitted) sociopath…you simply have no clue. I feel sad for you.

  95. 95

    Re: abcd123

    Exactly. She is NOT comparing eating animals to rape. She is saying that people are basically copycats and posers and keeping up with the Jones'. We do what others do to fit in… for instance if rape was the norm most of us would be doing it so we WOULDN'T stand out. KWIM?

  96. 96

    The fact that Perez does NOT understand what she is saying clearly points at his lack of a decent education. Majoring in acting didn't help out with his smarts much.

  97. 97

    Re: Love>Hate

    too bad that's not what she's saying.

  98. 98

    she could rape me.

  99. 99

    Re: Dave Letterman - staff fucker

    Again, another person who deosn't fully understand HER argument. And please, I'm a meat eater to the nth degree… so don't think I'm siding with her. She's NOT comparing meat eaters to rapists you fucking community college dimwit. She's saying humans have a HUGE tendency to copy other humans… and uses rape as an example of moral relativism.

  100. 100

    Re: ps – "Who's the dumbass" YOU ARE. The "fact" is it never "works" when you make invalid comparisons as per my very first comment which your little pea brain neglected to read. So I'll repost it for you tiny little mind:
    Natalie Portman's argument is beyond stupid. The simple FACT is that animals are lower on the food chain than humans. Raping another human being who is on the SAME LEVEL of the food chain vs. eating an animal who is LOWER on the food chain is like comparing apples and oranges. It's an invalid comparison. She may as well have said eating an animal is like eating a human. Just as absurd.
    Natalies comparison is INVALID b/c she is not comparing similar concepts.
    As per the DICTIONARY: Comparison: The quality of being similar or equivalent;
    HUMAN and COWS are neither similar not equivalent.
    So to again answer your question "Who's the dumbass now". LOL - look in the mirror dumbass.

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