Jesus Christ!
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A man in Tennessee has shared with the world his "miracle": Every morning he wakes up to find the face of Jesus Christ staring right back at him from his car!
Hallelujah!
Jim Stevens says that the condensation on his driver's side window continues to form in the shape of the face of Jesus. When it happened the first time, he assumed it would just evaporate. But instead, for the last two weeks, the image reappears in the exact same place every morning when he wakes up.
As you might imagine, the folks in town a pretty riled up about it and Jim says he won't be washing his truck for awhile!
Ah, simple-minded folks are so easily entertained.
[Image via AP Images/Johnson City Press, Lee Talbert.]
Sue Sylvester Wants To Sing on Glee!!!
What The Fug, Pete Wentz?
"Lol and you just showed us how you have NOTHING to back up your claims! The Bible is the ONLY source y'all ever cite but it's still NOT a valid source!!! It's man-written, much like a fairytale or MYTH. It has SOME valuable life lessons and teaches some good values but it's NEVER to be taken literally. Therefore, if you keep quoting bible verses, I'm gonna have to declare this debate a victory for Serena and me. And your rant about FAITH: I don't need faith in any way shape or form, I prefer rational, provable KNOWLEDGE. Because colf hard facts don't lie!"
Then why is it that you have faith then? Just because you deny your faith, it doesn't mean it's not there.
There is nothing cold hard fact about evolution. And you've seem to have gotten your panties in a knot about this.
All you and your little wonder twin have came up with is personal attacks. Pretentious verbal masturbation. Nothing more.
That only does something for you I guess. Convincing yourself.
"The fact is that the evidence was so patchy one hundred years ago that even Darwin himself had increasing doubts as to the validity of his views, and the only aspect of his theory which has received any support over the past century is where it applies to microevolutionary phenomena. His general theory, that all life on earth had originated and evolved by a gradual successive accumulation of fortuitous mutations, is still, as it was in Darwin's time, a highly speculative hypothesis entirely without direct factual support and very far from that self-evident axiom some of its more aggressive advocates would have us believe."—*Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (1986), p. 77.
[In a letter to Asa Gray, a Harvard professor of biology, Darwin wrote:] "I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science."—*Charles Darwin, quoted in *N.C. Gillespie, Charles Darwin and the Problem of Creation (1979), p. 2 [University of Chicago book].
Present-day ultra-Darwinism, which is so sure of itself, impresses incompletely informed biologists, misleads them, and inspires fallacious interpretations . . . Through use and abuse of hidden postulates, of bold, often ill-founded extrapolations, a pseudoscience has been created. It is taking root in the very heart of biology and is leading astray many biochemists and biologists, who sincerely believe that the accuracy of fundamental concepts has been demonstrated, which is not the case."—*Pierre P. de Grasse, The Evolution of Living Organisms (1977), p. 202.
In accepting evolution as fact, how many biologists pause to reflect that science is built upon theories that have been proved by experiment to be correct or remember that the theory of animal evolution has never been thus approved."—*L.H. Matthews, "Introduction," Origin of Species, Charles Darwin (1971 edition).
I found nothing on Arthur N Field, and the other quotes you used are regarding Darwinism, not evolution. I learned in my first year as an undergrad that there is no longer such a thing as "Darwinism". Darwin laid the foundations for the development of evolutionary science, but Darwinism as a whole is now irrelevant.
As for your major in psychology, no need to be pretentious over that. It's a joke of a degree.
Re: KevinK – The problem with you asking us for proof in favour of evolution is that the evidence is so vast and cannot be narrowed down to just a few simple quotes. You'd need to read several books and examine the fossil record. You gave me several quotes from "scientists". If it is a widespread sentiment among scientists that evolution is still a myth and requires faith, why is it taught as fact at all major, credible universities (institutions like Bob Jones or BYU are not included)? Surely if you're a student you've taken science courses at university, and I'm sure they don't teach you that evolution never happened.
Are you a creationist? Young earth proponent? What exactly are your views on evolution?
Where is your proof that God exists? If I asked you to prove that God exists, but you weren't allowed to use the Bible, could you do it? Absolutely not. If you asked me for proof in favour of evolution, but told me I couldn't use one book, say The Origin of Species, could I do it? Of course.
The problem with your side is you have just one source - The Bible. On my side, we have thousands of books, studies, fossils, etc.
Your side also has one answer - "God did it".
What side would appear to be more correct, the one with one book and one answer, or the side with thousands of books and many complex and thorough answers?
Re: Serena!!!COLON!!! You Twats – i dont recall replyin bak to u? but here u comment on a reply i left someone else?? u obviously want me to reply to u, so here u go!
Re: lornax – Pathetic.
Re: Serena!!!COLON!!! You Twats – Re: KevinK –
I know, I asked several times for any kind of proof for God's existence but KevinK keeps on turning it around and attacking and quoting the bible. It's literally like talking to a wall. I'm done giving proof after proof when I don't get anything useful instead. The few scientists you cited, KevinK, seem to be proponents of Intelligent Design. Well, here's my view on that: I'm not excluding it as a possibility that somebody created the universe because we just don't know what came before the Big Bang - although it's just a matter of time until we figure that out as well; Science is so fast paced theses days - But how does that fit in with your beloved bible which states that God specifically created the heavens and the earth in 7 days, like a magic trick, pulled them out of his hat like a buny. And the bible talks only about our planet and fails to mention the rest of the universe. For I.D. you'd have to write a whole new bible including the intelligent designer tinkering away in his workshop or however the hell he supposedly does it. I.D. was just another response to scientific findings that threatened to push religion out of the picture for good. What a desperate attempt to remain relevant.
Re: KevinK –
Creation was a great explanation at the time when people's knowledge was limited. Here's how the ancient Greek did it: They explained almost everything with a myth around their gods, such as the seasons for example: there was Demeter, the goddess of fertility, harvest and the seasons, and her daughter Persephone. Hades, the god of the underworld, took a liking to Persephone and kidnapped her, which saddened her mother to the point where she didn't do her job and turned the whole world into winter. Then they made a deal where Persephone would spend half the year with her mother - spring and summer - and the other half with Hades - fall and winter. It's a beautiful story but a BAD explanation for the seasons. Today we know the seasons are caused by the earth's position vis-a-vis the sun, and that's what we call a GOOD explanation. I'm sure nobody here debates that. Yeah creation is one of many explanations but is it really a good one? Can we test and prove it? Then why do some people fight to hang on to God's magic tricks instead of accepting a good explanation for what it is? All it takes is some common sense to see through the crap, which many Americans seem to have lost - in many aspects of life. And I - and the rest of the world too btw - simply don't get it.
Re: KevinK –
Are you guys aware that almost entire Europe laughs about y'all's beliefs? I mean, my friends and family can't believe it when I tell them y'all still believe in the bible word for word - and most of them actually believe in God. Yet, they're still my friends because they're smart and not obnoxious about their faith. They respect my views so I can respect theirs and enjoy a friendship beyond all the crap. Over there, religion also doesn't impose on people's freedoms (e.g. gay marriage is legal in most of Europe, and nobody would even think about trying to make abortion illegal) or get in the way of human progress (e.g. stem cell research). Europe moves forward because it respects its separation of state and church. Here in the States, that just doesn't seem possible, you guys ignore it as much as you can and make steps back in time. And THAT is really all I'm pissed off about.
Re: KevinK –
I'm not full of hate at all but I do get pissed off when I'm no respected for who I am. I don't give a fuck what you do in your personal life, whether you're a priest, a prostitute, a biblethumper, gay, straight, bi or none of the above, whether you don't believe in sex before marriage or whether you're having an abortion. It's none of my damn business and I don't judge. But do you extend the same courtesy in return? No, all religious fanatics do in this country is impose ridiculous laws on everybody, whether they agree with your religious views or not. Sorry, but that's just plain wrong. You are in no position to decide about what I do with my uterus. Atheists are disrespected, judged and yes discriminated against in this country, no matter how hard you wanna fight it, it's a fact.
Re: Serena!!!COLON!!! You Twats – I know, i was thinking that the other day. There's enough material on this website to fill an entire study and to get some good statistics!
Re: Ze German – I just wanted to add a few comments about evolution. First, humans are also primates. A primate is a mammal with an opposable thumb. Second, the latest research shows that humans did not evolve from apes but that humans and apes both seperately evolved from the same species that is now extinct. This theory is from new fossils that have been found that are extremely ancient. I just thought that was an interesting tid bit.
Re: Ze German – Will it just be christianity or will it be all religions? I know we're discussing Christianity becuase this is an article about Jesus appearing in a window, but all religions have the same basic belief of a higher being completely based on faith. I was just wondering if all religions are getting the same treatment here?
Re: Ze German – I realize I'm several days late in responding to all of this but I'm just catching up on several days of perez. This was just too interesting not to join in.
I would just like to point out that not all Christians believe the Bible word for word. Many people believe that the stories in the Bible were either written as specific lessons for the people living at that time while other people believe that the stories in the Bible were written as general moral lessons. Please remember that many Christians do not discuss their faith unless you engage them in a conversation about it. Most of the Christian view points you have heard are probably from Evangelicals who are extremely conservative and feel that it is their duty to "spread the word". You definately do not have a full overview of Christianity in all its form in the United States.
True, most people in the United States don't have a full overview of all of the religions across the world and unfortunately believe negative stereotypes about different religions. But, we can only hope that people will keep an open mind and strive to learn about different cultures and religions for a better understanding instead of taking limited information at face value. I hope you can do that.
Re: lg1234 – Lol Wow First: Maybe next time you can read all my posts before telling me I’m “taking limited information at face value” and assuming you’re so much smarter. Second: thank you for your biology lesson but I don’t think I’m the person in need of it. I grew up learning evolution in school and I apologize for forgetting the details since high school. Still, why are you lecturing me?
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Yes, I personally treat all religions the same because I think they’re all useless, detrimental and dangerous for humankind. I respect some more than others, e.g. I like hinduism and buddhism for being peaceful religions, generally speaking. But Christianity and Islam have led to nothing but hate, intolerance and war, and killed millions of people over whose religion is “better”. What good does that do? We simply don’t need religion anymore, imo. Religion is for the weak. No offense, that’s my opinion. I’d rather rely on myself to lead my life than put my fate in the hands of someone who’s never even introduced himself to me. If I screw up, I have nobody to blame but myself.
Re: lg1234 – I grew up Roman Catholic, and I realized from an early age that all the stuff I was taught was bs. I’ve always rejected the fact that people are supposed to take somebody else’s word for the truth and simply “believe” what they say. It’s so dangerous because it’s the easy way out but nature is not that simple. Don’t have an explanation for something? Then surely God must have done it. What a bad explanation is that? Whatever happened to curiosity and excitement to seek the truth? If religion continues to stand in the way of human progress, then I really think we’re all gonna kill ourselves soon. If religion hadn’t hindered ambitious scientists such as da Vinci, I think we’d already know the full truth about universe; maybe we’d even have colonized other planets by now or at least have figured out how to live on earth without killing it in the process.
Re: lg1234 – I don’t know about you but I’ve lived all over the world and I know a little something about Christianity myself. I know that not everybody takes the bible word for word. When I said “y'all still believe in the bible word for word” I was talking to one person representing a specific group. Go back and read it, I don’t wanna have to explain that I’m talking about SOME people and not everybody. Either way, it’s not only the evangelicals (of which there are a lot here in Texas) that make a bad mistake: this entire country watches as the Separation of State and Church is being ignored, and they’re totally fine with it. It comes from Christians who insists that this country was founded on Christian principals. They may call it Christian values, I call it common sense and ethics. The founding fathers never intended to include religion in politics but nobody gives a crap. And a combination of the two is NEVER a good idea! I’ve said that before in posts as well: I don’t care what you do at home, but leave religion out of politics and out of my life.
BTW I also proved that there are scientist that also know that the "big bang" theory is just that. A guess.
Also, how do we know how old the earth is? We base it on a theory about layers of the earth. And as long as that theory is correct, so are we.
To believe it is fact, one has to have faith said theory is correct.
It all comes down to faith. On either side.
Yet non of the anti-religious zealots will EVER admit to having faith about anything.
[re=4485633]Re: Serena!!!COLON!!! You TwatsI found nothing on Arthur N Field, and the other quotes you used are regarding Darwinism, not evolution. I learned in my first year as an undergrad that there is no longer such a thing as "Darwinism". Darwin laid the foundations for the development of evolutionary science, but Darwinism as a whole is now irrelevant.
As for your major in psychology, no need to be pretentious over that. It's a joke of a degree.[/re]
It spoke about evolution as well. The truth is, no mater what I post, you're going to spin it. As far as my major goes. No one was being pretentious over that. It's no more of a joke than yours is. Actually in the academic circles, yours is more so. I understand your sub-conscience need to bash others to make you feel better about your own however. But projection should be beneath you. Since you claim to rely on facts.
BTW
"Yes, I personally treat all religions the same because I think they’re all useless, detrimental and dangerous for humankind. "
Religions don't start wars. People using religions to satisfy their selfish desires do. The one common thing about war isn't religion. It's that humans are involved. Humankind is dangerous to humankind.
But most people like you will never admit it. Because there is no side to rail against and make you feel superior over because you are human too. And you can't run from it.
If "religion" didn't exist, we'd have even more wars and terror going on.
You can't blame religion for something men do. Especially when that religion doesn't justify, or teach such things.
Man is at fault. Man has always corrupted.
And in the end what does this all say?
God still exists. The Big Bang theory is still a theory.
And it takes faith to believe in either.
Mankind has corrupted everything it has gotten it's hands on since day 1.
Oh, and people will use Religion for their own selfish wants and desires.
Even if it means blaming it for things it simply does not promote.
Re: KevinK – Yes men are dangerous and start wars but religion is an invention of men. It wasn't always there, we invented religions to justify our actions and to make ourselves not feel so alone.
You didn't prove nothing, especially not that God exists. lol And anthropology is surely much more respected worldwide than psychology is. You're just trying to diminuish Serena's credibility because you severly lack it yourself.
And continuously insulting us as "zealots" surely doesn't add to your credibility at all. You say we don't admit to any of your argument winnings? Well guess what, I haven't seen YOU budge on your opinion or admit to anything either. So how about you get off of your high horse because you had no reason to be up there in the first place.
Re: KevinK – Kevin, my "major" is not anthropology. My major WAS mathematics, and now I'm getting my PhD in anthropology.
Re: KevinK – The entire issue of being pretentious came up when you claimed I hate religion. I was simply pointing out that I do not, in any way, hate religion, as I've devoted my studies to the subject.
"but religion is an invention of men."
Why do you continually state opinion as fact? It does nothing for your argument. As a matter of fact, if your rant was so just, you'd not have to REVERT to such dishonesties.
"it wasn't always there"
Prove the belief of God wasn't always there. Prove it. (Save you some time, you can't.)
"You didn't prove nothing, especially not that God exists"
Maybe that's because I said over and over again it couldn't be proven? You claim to be smart, but you don't even pay attention.
"The entire issue of being pretentious came up when you claimed I hate religion. I was simply pointing out that I do not, in any way, hate religion, as I've devoted my studies to the subject."
You don't know what the word pretentious means. And just because you study religion, doesn't mean you don't dislike it.
Wow that makes what, 5-10 posts of both of yours I smacked down?
Keep em coming. I'll keep knocking them down.
I was once just like the both of you. I know how you think.
Oh, and these arguments you are making? I made them too at one time.
The thing is, when I argued like that, I was more trying to convince myself, than I was other people. I used to treat personal believes against religion as facts too. Otherwise it would make me insecure about my beliefs not to.
Pure Psych 101.
p.s. Not that I ever aspect you to admit this. I know when I was just like you two, *I* wouldn't have. As a matter of fact, I would make sure to denounce such an idea quickly.
And hey, if I am wrong, then I led a good life and that's that. I will be no more.
However, if I am right, then I will have a joyous afterlife.
Either way it's a win win situation.
However if you are wrong, I'm afraid the alternative isn't going to be what you expected.
Re: KevinK – The problem with discussing this topic with you, is that you used to not be religious, and now that you've found religion, you assume everyone can be swayed like yourself. The difference is, I was once religious, I was raised in the church, and through educating myself on religion and science (and also common sense), I am now an atheist.
So, no, you did not used to think like us. If we were both uneducated on the subjects of science and religion, and just hadn't been informed about God yet, then yes, you would have used to be just like us. But, we're highly educated on the topics of religion and science, which you were not.