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“I think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who understood human problems. On the cross, he forgave the people who crucified him. Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don’t know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the Middle East — you’re as good as dead.”

- Elton John tells Parade

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  1. 101

    Re: Dave Letterman - staff fucker
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    COMMING FROM A PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN A MAGICAL WIZARD NAMED GOD AND A FAKE STORY GUY NAMED JESUS YOU MAY WANT TO BE MORE CAREFUL WHO YOU CALL BIZARE AND ON DRUGS.
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    THE STORY OF YOUR GOD AND JESUS ARE FAKE BASED ON AN EYGPTIAN FAIRY TALE OF HORUS.
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    HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY THE VATICAN STOLE THE EYGPTIAN OBELISK WHICH CONTAINS THE STORY OR HORUS AND PLACED IT IN THE VATICAN ?
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    OR WHY THE VATICAN TRIED AND FAILED TO STEAL THE CORNER STONE OF THE PYRAMID WHICH ALSO CONTAINS HORUS'S STORY ?
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    IF PEOPLE WANT TO SAY YOUR FAIRY TALE JESUS WAS GAY BIG DEAL YOUR CHURCH HAS TURNED HIM WHITE WHEN IN TRUTH GIVEN THE TIME PERIOD AND LOCATION OF THE TALE HE WOULD BE A BLACK MAN WITH ARABIC FEATURES… I BET THATS NOT HOW HE LOOKS IN YOUR BIBLE OF YOUR CHURCH !
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    SHOULD YOU NEED FURTHER PROOF YOUR GOD IS FAKE ASK YOU DOCTOR FOR AN XRAY OF YOUR ASS….. HOW MANY TAIL BONES DO YOU HAVE ? THREE OR FIVE ? EITHER WAY THEY ARE PROOF YOUR ANCESTOR WAS AN APE…
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    YOUR GOD AND JESUS EXIST ONLY IN YOUR WEAK MIND….
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  2. 102

    Re: aussie10
    SUCK MY BALLS!



  3. 103

    Re: aussie10
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    2% THE NUMBER OF AUSTRALIANS THAT GO TO CHURCH!
    SOURCE THE MELBOURNE AGE.
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  4. 104

    Okay Elton crossed a major line. Jesus was not gay. He thought it was morally wrong, but he was strong enough and kind enough to forgive all of us for our sins no matter what they were. But he was definitely NOT gay, he was pure and never lusted so therefore he claims no stake to gay or straight. I'm sure if he did though, he would not have contradicted God's word by being gay………but that was an interestingly strange idea to ponder haha



  5. 105

    I REALLY, REALLY hope you guys (you PERVY and him) repent cause do NOT want to go to hell. It's people like you that make me sick and sad.



  6. 106

    Oh, and PS for "elton john" and all the people that support this poor excuse of a "celebrity": I'd love it if he said the same thing about, e.g., Muhammad. You would be dead, "elton". Courageous my ass. He's just another famewhore



  7. 107

    Re: Orator – ROFLMAO. Please stop being such an ignorant. If "elton john" wasn't gay,you 2 would be the perfect match



  8. 108

    ummmm i love you elton!!! i dont know about jesus being gay but it doesnt matter i get what your saying.. mad man across the water was the best album ever that u made…. i can die until i see u live…



  9. 109

    Do you ever notice that the people who claim to be super -religous here are always the least educated sounding,the most violent ,the worst swearing… Actually the most hatemongering disgusting people. Anyway I think he meant that in a way to make people think. And if you are in a muslim country in the middle-east and gay ,Jewish,black or feminist you life will be hell if you are allowed to live.



  10. 110

    Re: knowitall
    Hey!!
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    You mean like killing people for believing the world is round rather than flat ?
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    Yes I have.



  11. 111

    If Jesus was gay, him dying on the cross would have been all for nothing. The reason why him dying on the cross worked was, he was sinless. In order to have been sinless, he'd have not been gay. Sorry Elton. You're erotic masturbatory dreams about the chosen one are all for not.



  12. 112

    [re=4771678]Re: Does Jesus' sexuality really matter? I mean, really?
    [/re]

    It makes all the difference. Read my post above.



  13. 113

    [re=4771688]Re: brinneydb He does not JUDGE the people who believe differently.
    [/re]

    You are correct. We are responsible for where we go. God however will judge us. And if your "believe differently" = not believing jesus was the son of God, that died for your sins then yes, your belief, or lack of belief will be judged.

    Instead of making projecting emotions, sexual desires, and beliefs onto Jesus, why not just read the Bible and find out what kind of man he really was?

    Not the pretend kind that this forum always promotes.



  14. 114

    Re: Aussieone
    Your comments are not only taken out of context. They are from the old testament. Before the new law.

    I find it amusing when people that have no clue about the Bible, try to use it's own text to make it look bad. Before going on such a conquest one should really know about it. Else they look foolish like Aussieone did in his post above.



  15. 115

    [re=4772940]Re: duelastar I wouldn't say Jesus is gay BUT I definately would say he's the type to chill with them. He never judged anyone and the fact that people have the gall to say "jesus hates _______" are stupid.
    [/re]

    Now THAT I agree with. As a matter of fact he'd probably spend time with the gays more so than anyone else. Back in the day he spent time with the tax collectors. Which were the "most hated" people around that time. He spent time around those that needed it most. And no, he would never reject someone simply for being homosexual. Jesus doesn't reject people. People reject him.



  16. 116

    "COMMING FROM A PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN A MAGICAL WIZARD NAMED GOD AND A FAKE STORY GUY NAMED JESUS YOU MAY WANT TO BE MORE CAREFUL WHO YOU CALL BIZARE AND ON DRUGS."

    I would say that believing in God, that God created all this is just as "silly" as believing this all was an accident that just happened. No rhyme or reason to it.

    Both take great faith to believe in.

    Me thinks thou doth protest too muchith. or something.



  17. 117

    BTW I have a question. Since I've been told anyone that isn't supportive of gays in every way is probably someone that is guy him/herself, and just hasn't come out of the closet.

    That would also mean that anyone that bashes or belittles Christianity must also be a closet Christian?

    I mean if it works one way, it has to work the other right? Can't be exclusive.

    So I am guessing everyone that is bashing Christianity in this thread needs to stop lying to themselves, and come out of the closet.

    I am sure your parents will understand.



  18. 118

    Re: KevinK
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    Old Testament is the writings of the Hebrew Bible that were accepted as authentic by Christians… The sacred writings of the Christian religion…
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    Old or new testament come on what a weak argument.
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    Either its gods word of its not.
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    You guys make me laugh "Before the new law" who is man (if you believe) to change the word of GOD ?
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    You and I have had this argument before on this site: The Lutheran Church Allows Gays To Serve As Ministers!
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    You lost then and youll lose every time I have truth on my side you have a belief that give you permision to hate people.
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    How many tail bones do you have ?
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    Does the church have a stolen Eygptian Obelisk in St. Peter's Square ?
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    The fact that you keep saying god was against gays when it doesnt even say that in you silly book makes me laugh.
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    Your god is fake so is jesus……….



  19. 119

    The bible contains three same sex relationships
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    Ruth and Naomi
    David and Jonathan
    Daniel and Ashpenaz
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    Ruth 1:16-17 and 2:10-11 describe their close friendship Perhaps the best known passage from this book is Ruth 1:16-17 which is often read out during opposite-sex and same-sex marriage and union ceremonies:
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    "Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God. Where you die I will die, and there I will be buried. May the Lord deal with me, be it ever so severely, if anything but death separates you and me." (NIV)
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    Ruth 1:14, referring to the relationship between Ruth and Naomi, mentions that "Ruth clave onto her." (KJV) The Hebrew word translated here as "clave" is identical to that used in the description of a heterosexual marriage in Genesis 2:24: " Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (KJV)



  20. 120

    Passages in 1 Samuel & 2 Samuel describe, among other events, a extremely close bond between David and Jonathan. Jonathan was the son of King Saul, and next in line for the throne. But Samuel anointed David to be the next king. This produced a strong conflict in the mind of Saul.
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    1 Samuel 18:1
    "…Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself." (NIV)
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    "…the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul" (KJV)
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    1 Samuel 18:2
    "From that day, Saul kept David with him and did not let him return to his father's house." (NIV)
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    David left his parent's home and moved to Saul's where he would be with Jonathan. This is a strong indication that the relationship was extremely close. It echoes the passage marriage passage in Genesis 2:24: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
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    1 Samuel 18:3-4
    "And Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself. Jonathan took off the robe he was wearing and gave it to David, along with his tunic, and even his sword, his bow and his belt." (NIV)
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    Since people in those days did not wear underwear, Jonathan stripped himself naked in front of David. That would be considered extremely unusual behavior (then and now) unless their relationship was physical.



  21. 121

    1 Samuel 20:41
    "After the boy had gone, David got up from the south side of the stone and bowed down before Jonathan three times, with is face to the ground. Then they kissed each other and wept together - but David wept the most." (NIV)
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    2 Samuel 1:26
    "I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women."

    In the society of ancient Israel, it was not considered proper for a man and woman to have a platonic relationship. Men and women rarely spoke to each other in public. Since David's only relationships with women would have been sexual in nature, then he must be referring to sexual love here. It would not make sense in this verse to compare platonic love for a man with sexual love for a woman; they are two completely different phenomena. It would appear that David is referring to his sexual love for Jonathan.



  22. 122

    DANIEL AND ASHPENAZ
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    Now God had brought Daniel into favor and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs" (KJV)
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    The Hebrew words which describe the relationship between Daniel and Ashpenaz are chesed v'rachamim. V'rachamim is in a plural form which is used to emphasize its relative importance. It has meaning as it is emphasized “physical love”.



  23. 123

    does the middle east include dubai because ive met gay woman from dubai that were perfectly happy an in relationships



  24. 124

    IM NOT RELIIOUS… DONT BELIEVE IN GOD HAVE FRIENDS THAT DO..
    I HAVE READ THE BIBLE & THE BIBLE DOES NOT CONDEM HOMSEXUALS!
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    Jimmy Creech, senior pastor of the First United Methodist Church, in Omaha, Nebraska who has concluded that: "…there was no understanding of sexual orientation in the culture and time when scripture was written. There was not even a word for 'homosexuality' or 'homosexual' in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, the original languages of scripture. There are biblical references that condemn same-sex sexual behavior, but they are all within contexts related to violence, idolatry, promiscuity and exploitation.
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    Careful reading within the historical setting reveals that it is the violence, idolatry, promiscuity and exploitation that is condemned, not the same-sex sexual behavior.
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    The same condemnation is given to opposite-sex sexual behavior that is violent, idolatrous, promiscuous and exploitative."
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  25. 125

    I think homosexulaity should be celebrated and definately not discriminated but you can't go around saying that Jesus was gay that kinda thing will get youuu crucified!!!!!



  26. 126

    Re: KevinK
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    No Im not a closet Christian but all religions do interest me…
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    I find it amazing how mankind will divide its self and how poorly we will treat each other because of a belief in a magical presence.
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    I dont believe its all accident………..
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    NASA and ESA have both documented the death of stars spew out atoms that are the building blocks of life.
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    Just as All of the Hawaiian islands were formed by volcanoes erupting from the sea floor from a magma source.
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    The death of these stars release the atoms that make planets, trees, thimbles, your left foot, etc. all these are the remnants of of these exploding stars.
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    We are all made of stars.



  27. 127

    …hey aussieone, you're pretty awesome…love your posts!…



  28. 128

    Re: *.*honey*.* – Iv'e read the bible 3 times. Even as fiction it's a piss poor novel. The only drama it gets is from a Hollywood production. Trashy paperbacks have more honesty than that tripe. Sorry Honey, BS is BS and the bible is full of it, as you should know.



  29. 129

    as far as I know it is perfectly ok to be a gay women in Israel - and a gay man - but not in the Muslim countries in the Middle East, Elton….
    My understanding of Jesus is that he was asexual.



  30. 130

    It's amazing to me. How a gay man, cannot walk upright without having to stoop to such lows, to use the Lords, son Jesus as an excuse or reason for him, to be o.k with what he is, and what he does. If he was secure, in who he was, he wouldn't need anyone to make him, feel like it was o.k. Jesus, was not gay. He was compassionate, to all those who loved him, and even to those who didn't, but this does not give anyone the right to use him, to make it easier for themselves to thrive without guilt on our planet.



  31. 131

    Re: kleeow – And YOU know this for a fact… HOW?



  32. 132

    Re: kleeow – I completely agree with that statement, its a sin in its self to make the bible fit your lifestyle instead of living your life on the word of the bible. Amen



  33. 133

    Re: Lydia08 – No where in the bible does it say Jesus was a gay man. He was pure, without lust, without desire. For elton to say that he was a gay, is complete and utter blasphemy. He is trying to make what he thinks and does okay by changing the bible to fit his chosen lifestyle. Also a sin.



  34. 134

    Re: snipnclip2 – 132
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    YOUR CHURCH HAS TURNED HIM WHITE WHEN IN TRUTH GIVEN THE TIME PERIOD AND LOCATION OF THE TALE HE WOULD BE A BLACK MAN WITH ARABIC FEATURES… I BET THATS NOT HOW HE LOOKS IN YOUR BIBLE OF YOUR CHURCH ?
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  35. 135

    Re: snipnclip2 – 133
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    You write: "No where in the bible does it say Jesus was a gay man"
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    How could it:
    There was no understanding of sexual orientation in the culture and time when scripture was written.
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    There was not even a word for 'homosexuality' or 'homosexual' in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, the original languages of scripture.
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    The only word for it was love:
    2 Samuel 1:26
    "I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women."
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    DANIEL AND ASHPENAZ
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    Now God had brought Daniel into favor and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs" (KJV)
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    Ruth 1:14, referring to the relationship between Ruth and Naomi, mentions that "Ruth clave onto her." (KJV) The Hebrew word translated here as "clave" is identical to that used in the description of a heterosexual marriage in Genesis 2:24: " Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (KJV)
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    In your fairy tale JESUS loved everyone Village makes some interesting comments in post 90 you should read…
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    "He lived to 33, yet never married, at a time when men married soon after puberty. Was Paul his lover? Is that why Paul immediately fled to Greece, where homosexuality was common, while married to a woman? Is that why Judas ultimately betrayed Jesus, because he was gay?"
    *



  36. 136

    To Lydia08. I know this. Because I go to church. Because I take sacrament. And because I read the scriptures on a daily basis. And because I live my life in accordance to the commandments. This is how I know.



  37. 137

    Re: kleeow
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    You wrote: "If he was secure, in who he was, he wouldn't need anyone to make him, feel like it was o.k. Jesus, was not gay."…. " but this does not give anyone the right to use him, to make it easier for themselves to thrive without guilt on our planet."
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    I could say the same thing to you:
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    If you where secure with yourself you wouldnt need a fake god to make yourself feel better….
    *



  38. 138

    "Try being a gay woman in the Middle East — you’re as good as dead.”

    Israel is an exception to this as a Middle Eastern country where gay rights are fully protected by law. In fact, in some ways gay rights in Israel can actually be seen as even more advanced than gay rights in the U.S., an example being that gay Israelis can and do serve openly in the military.



  39. 139

    When the tower of Babel, was built, God confounded man, and sent him to the four corners of the earth. He also, changed the skin colour of those who did not believe. How would you know whether he was white or black, because where I come from, skin colour is never the issue, when it comes to loving all those, who exist on our planet. Your ramblings, indicate that you have read, but that you are not hearing. They say to me, that you contemplate daily his word and his existance, and that you are scared to become a believer. Why else would you call those, who believe, in Jesus, and the Lord. Names? Aussie, whoever?



  40. 140

    Re: PerezLooksHot – 138
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    True
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  41. 141

    I love how there are some people on here who are making fun of gay people yet reading a gay persons blog .



  42. 142

    Also why is it wrong to be proud to be gay ? I mean people who are black,Asian,white , and Hispanic show off their heritage to other people and there culture so for those of you saying negative shit about gay people shut the f*** up and stop reading a person who is gay blog. Dumb hypocrites .



  43. 143

    Re: kleeow
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    Human evolution did not stop when our own species appeared. Physical and genetic changes have occurred within our species and will continue to occur at a basic level as new genes evolve. However, these changes may not be as dramatic as they were in the past as the situation today does not favour the evolution of a new human species. * We have undergone change since our species first evolved. Some changes were universal whereas others were more regional in effect. The changes apparent in worldwide populations include a decrease in both overall body size and brain size as well as a reduction in jaw and tooth proportions. Regional populations have also evolved different physical and genetic characteristics in response to varying climates and lifestyles..
    CNTD



  44. 144

    Re: kleeow
    *
    Though science like "Journey of Mankind Genetic Map" DNA shows that we all came from Africa.. * As man migrated across the globe we evolved to suit our enviroment. Our skin got lighter in cooler climates. Our hair and eyes changed to servive regional circumstance like diet, light levels, weather and temperature.
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    Jesus is said to be born some time before 4 BCE or BC for you. Given that he was said to die in 4BCE in Bethlehem.
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    Given the time and location we know people from there where dark skined and had arabic features. Darker skin then those native to those region have today.
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    Advances in forensic science allowed a team of British scientists, assisted by Israeli archeologists, to re-created an image of what jesus would have really looked like if he existed. Google "the real face of jesus".
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    CNTD



  45. 145

    Re: kleeow
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    You wrote: "Your ramblings, indicate that you have read, but that you are not hearing."
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    I have read but I havent limited mysel to one book Ive read many others.
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    In twenty thousand plus years we have learnt much. Infact so much that we can look on your book and see its not real. Our knowlage has gone beyond what some people believed then…
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    You also wrote: "They say to me, that you contemplate daily his word and his existance, and that you are scared to become a believer. Why else would you call those, who believe, in Jesus"
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    I have already stated all religions do interest me…
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    I find it amazing how mankind will divide its self and how poorly we will treat each other because of a belief in a magical presence.
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    I have contemplated on religion and through logic and truth determined its a load of bulshit… It was a people with out the knowalge we have today asking why are we here and trying to explain things.
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    Since then it has been used to control the weak and divide people for profit power and war…
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    I have no doubt the story of your god is false.



  46. 146

    144 should say: Born in Bethlehem
    145 should say: In two thousand plus years.
    MY BAD..



  47. 147

    Re: kleeow – Oooooooooooo, so that makes it true eh? Another moron with no sense or will of your own. Well, you just keep on believing sweetie and you'll get to heaven I'm sure. HA HA HA!



  48. 148

    Re: malvolio
    Sorry I missed your post didnt mean to be rude.
    Im glad you like them, fellow thinker :)



  49. 149

    Re: Lydia08
    I thought you'd gone!
    HI



  50. 150

    Re: Aussieone – Honey, I was raised from the dead don'cha know? I'm a f'n miracle! Praise the Lard!



  51. 151

    Re: Steff08
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    There is nothing wrong with being proud of ones self.
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    These folks live there life based on a silly book that allows only pride in believing in it.
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    They have miss-read it to hate gay people, it is part of their unity. To be united they must have a common enemies… They believe that to be gay is a sin (The bible really say's no such thing) There was not even a word for 'homosexuality' or 'homosexual' in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, the original languages of scripture.
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    Just as the bible says nothing about condoms and birth control yet thier religion is against them. To be united they must have a common enemies…
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    Their common enemy in the past has ranged from all other faiths to witches to pagans to people that dared to say the world was not flat but round….. it has always been science.
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    Science has always been a threat to religion for It has the power to prove it all fake. History does and will judge these christians poorly.
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    Gay is 100% natural and beautiful



  52. 152

    Re: Lydia08
    lol
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    hella lou ya :)



  53. 153

    what a fucked up thing to say



  54. 154

    oh gosh i hate when people try to make their own Jesus !
    okay Jesus is kind, and love everybody but he doesn't like the sin, he love the sinner but can't stand the sin. With the woman who was accused of cheating he sad : i don't judge you but go and don't sin anymore ( and not go and do as you want) the point of Jesus is to make you change not love you and leave you in obscurity. God is the same, the God of the old testiment and the God of the new is the same, Jesus is the son of God and he was sent by his Father not to discuss his laws and change them.
    The worst part is when people use deep friendship and turn them into homo relation ! Ruth and Naomi, Jonathan and David ????? pleeeez read your Bible
    Ruth was Naomi's daughter in law, Jonathan was David best friend, what's wrong with people to turn the purest,simplet and deepest relations into something sinful ??? Just to fit their life and agenda.
    I love gays, not because they are gays but because they are PEOPLE, nobody should be refered by a particularitie, but i believe in Jesus and nowhere Jesus said it was good to be a sinner,(if not the cross is useless) and sorry guys but homosexuality is a sin ! on the contrary the only time he talked about "sexuality" was with marriage between a man and a woman or celibacy.
    Jesus was not a hippy guy saying do what you want He said : do what my Father told you to do.



  55. 155

    Re: Perola
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    Throughout Christian history, Ruth's vow to Naomi has been used to illustrate the nature of the marriage covenant.
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    These words are often read at Christian wedding ceremonies and used in sermons to illustrate the ideal love that spouses should have for one another.
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    The fact that these words were originally spoken by one woman to another tells us a lot about how your God feels about same-gender relationships.
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    Orpah chose to go home and find a man Ruth chose to stay as she was in love with Naomi.
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    You write "Jonathan was David best friend" just like Elton John calls David Furnish his best friends and they are marraied and fucking..
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    Your book is very silly but your a lair NO where in it does it call homosexuality a sin…
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    You write: "oh gosh i hate when people try to make their own Jesus"
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    You mean like you do in writing that very statement ????



  56. 156

    Re: Aussieone
    sorry but if i tried to make my own Jesus i would say that Jesus loves gossiping, talking bad about people, sleeping with strangers cos that's what i did, but knowing Jesus i know that he doesn't love that but still love me.
    Find me where in the bible is it said that God or Jesus allows homosexuality ?
    I can find you where it is written that they hate that so please read your bible.

    "Romans 1:24-28 (New International Version)

    24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.

    26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

    28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."



  57. 157

    Re: Aussieone

    Ruth married Boaz so stop turning people into gay person only cos they love each other. I have a girl best friend does it mean i'm gay ??! seriously ?!
    a covenant yeah it's really important in the bible, as God made the covenant to his people does it means that he had sex with all of his believers ? If you read the Word of God aka the Bible he compares the union between a man and a woman to the union between Jesus and the Church he always uses termes like husband and wife (not husband and husband, not wife and wife)
    "I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him."2 Corinthians 11:2 or"For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." Ephesians 5:23

    so please read the Bible before talking about Jesus, i don't say i know everything but i certainly know what Jesus said as i read and study my Bible a lot

  58. galli says – reply to this


    158

    HE SHOULD REALLY KEEP IS MOUTH SHUT …



  59. 159

    oh yah…..he is SO going to hell….



  60. 160

    Re: Aussieone – WOW! You and Lydia08 have some serious hate goin on for Christianity.

    Too bad neither one of you know what the hell you are talking about.



  61. 161

    Re: Perola
    Romans 1:
    The complete passage describes how a group of Christians left the church, converted to Paganism, and engaged in orgiastic, presumably heterosexual sexual activities. This type of behavior was common among Pagan fertility religions in Rome during Paul's time. Paul writes that, later, God "gave them over" to something new: homosexual behavior. This implies that they had a heterosexual orientation and had engaged only in heterosexual sex throughout their lifetime. God influenced them in some way to engage in homosexual orgies. This was, for them, an unnatural, and thus sinful, activity.
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    Paul criticized them because they were engaged in sexual activity which was unnatural for them. For a person with a heterosexual orientation, homosexual behavior is "shameful," "unnatural," "indecent," and a "perversion." The passage in Romans is not a condemnation of homosexual behavior. Rather, it disapproves of sexual behavior that is against a person's basic nature (i.e. homosexual behaviors by people whose orientation is heterosexual).
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    For the vast majority of adults, those who are heterosexual, it is indecent for them to engage in homosexual activities. One can interpret Paul's writing as stating that, for the small minority of humans who are homosexual, it would be indecent for them to engage in heterosexual activities.



  62. 162

    Re: Perola
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    Reading into the text what Paul did not say (a universal prohibition of homosexuality) is called eisogesis - wrongly interpreting the text. That kind of faulty interpretation is unworthy of Christians who love the word of God.



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    Re: sam007
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    Thanks for your great ah um contribution…. You have really proved your point LOL..
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    Re: Aussieone
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    The word "homosexual" was first used in the very late in 19th century CE. (AD for you) There was no Hebrew word that meant "homosexual." Thus, whenever the word is seen in an English translation of the Bible, one should be wary that the translators might be inserting their own prejudices into the text.
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    There was not even a word for 'homosexuality' or 'homosexual' in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, the original languages of scripture.
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    Re: Perola
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    While stating what Your silly little book says I want to point out I dont agree with Paul.
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    I think everyone should love and fuck who ever they choose whatever sex that partner may be.
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    I have no problem with 3 somes, orgies and so on… Id just hope people are safe and enjoy themselves. :)
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    Re: sam007 – you're…umm…welcome…

    enjoy eternal damnation!



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    Re: Perola – Just ignore this idiot! How can someone argue points in a book that they don't even believe in?? This idiot seems to have a answer for everything…but they are just blowing it out their arse! Just because they have the internet and apparently are really good at using "google", they think they know it all…

    whatever…



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    Re: Lydia08 – WOW! 3 WHOLE times??



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    Re: sam007 – Sweetie, I was raised in a convent school. I was brainwashed like you for a few years before I realized what a load they were trying to sell me. And for the record, ALL religions are full of horseshit. Ya know, just like you.



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    Re: sam007
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    Sam the power of your argument is amazing……………….. In its lack of actualy having or articulating one….
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    Being such a good Christian you may mant to reread Matthew 22:37-40 and Matthew 7:12.
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    Your post 166 is a whole new level of crazy daming yourself to hell ? Interesting….
    "Re: sam007 – you're…umm…welcome…
    enjoy eternal damnation!"
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    You write: "This idiot seems to have a answer for everything"
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    You will lose every time I have truth logic and reason on my side you have a belief that gives you permision (in your mind) to hate people.
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    ASK YOU DOCTOR FOR AN XRAY OF YOUR ASS….. HOW MANY TAIL BONES DO YOU HAVE ? THREE OR FIVE ? EITHER WAY THEY ARE PROOF YOUR ANCESTOR WAS AN APE…
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    You can free yourself from your stupidity…. Lydia was brainwshed with it and had the strength and intelligence to break free.
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    *
    Your silence says it all YOU can NOT defend your religion from TRUTH.
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    YOUR GOD AND JESUS ARE BULLSHIT!
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    ALL RELIGIONS ARE FAKE.
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    Re: AussieoneRe: Aussieone – OH the LOL's!!! Please continue….your incoherent ramblings are most entertaining!



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    Why do celebrities seem to think they are philosophers and politicians? Stick to your own genre.At the height of the Vietnam war, Elvis Presley was asked about his opinions and he politely stated, "I am an entertainer and I prefer to keep my personal opinions to myself." Celebs these days could take a lesson from this.



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    Re: sam007
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    Yet again Sam the power of your argument is amazing……………….. In its lack of actualy having or articulating one….
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    Re: sam007
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    Your silence says it all YOU can NOT defend your religion from TRUTH.
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    YOUR GOD AND JESUS ARE BULLSHIT!
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    ALL RELIGIONS ARE FAKE.



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    ok aussione
    i didn't not respond cos i have a life you know, i'm not stuck in front of my screen reading your text.
    you can think what you want but i don't get how you can explain to me what is the bible and what Paul said if you don't care or believe in it, what's the point ?
    Again find me where it is written that God love homosexuality, that is is not a sin ? called it whatever you want homosexuality existed a long time ago ,Paul lived with the greeks so pleeez
    God created man and woman and put them together, if it wasn't the case he would have give 2 men and 2 women to have orgy and same sex relationship, the fact that the genesis explains that man and woman are created in god's image and are made for each other need no other explanation.
    Again my point is not to convince you cos you seem pretty closeminded, words can't convince only God and if you don't want to really listen to him then…
    The Bible is not only words or stories in context it's also spiritual insight and if you can't see that God's sexual plan for humanity is heterosexuality and that Jesus came to save you ( save me ? for what ? i hadn't ask anything ! i can hear you say) than please stop explaining to me my faith and lecturing me it's really insulting



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    Re: Perola
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    So many words in the bible's original text have no know meaning as the words died out. Words like “arsenokoitai” which was once thought to mean temple prostitutes then later thought to mean masturbation. At the time of Martin Luther, the latter meaning was in universal use. But by the 20th century, masturbation had become a more generally accepted behaviour, whereas many Christians were concentrating on homosexuality as a despised activity. New Biblical translations abandoned references to masturbators and switched the attack to homosexuals. The last religious writing in English that interpreted 1 Corinthians 6:9 as referring to masturbation is believed to be the [Roman] Catholic Encyclopedia of 1967.
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    Your book changes to suit the hate of the day.
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    You say I seem pretty close-minded I’m not the one ignoring the world around me..
    I’m not ignoring DNA evidence which charts mans migration out of Africa and across the globe.
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    Nor am I the one ignoring the bones in my own body which prove my ancestors where apes.
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    CNTD



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    Re: Perola
    pt3
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    I am also not the one ignoring history which proves the story of Jesus is really just a copy of the story of Horus.
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    I am not the one calling a peoples right to love and be loved a sin… I am not the one who’s church and faith seeks to deny my brother a sisters the same rights to marriage because of a wrong belief that my magical book can not support that.
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    I am not close-minded to science… fact nor reason.



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    Re: Perola
    pt1
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    One doesn’t have to believe in a book to know when another is being deceptive about its contents.
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    If someone is lying about the words or actions of Frodo from The Lord of the Rings I’m sure you could tell if you had read the book. No belief is necessary to make such a determination..
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    You ask the same question regarding homosexual .. I’ve already told you there was no understanding of sexual orientation in the culture and time when scripture was written. There was not even a word for 'homosexuality' or 'homosexual' in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, the original languages of scripture.
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    You don’t have to believe me ask a historian.
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    The word "homosexual" was first used in the very late in 19th century CE. (AD for you) There was no Hebrew word that meant "homosexual." Thus, whenever the word is seen in an English translation of the Bible, one should be wary that the translators might be inserting their own prejudices into the text.



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    i have no idea why they are not posted in order ?



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    Re: Perola
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    Your silence says it all YOU can NOT defend your religion from TRUTH.
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    YOUR GOD AND JESUS ARE BULLSHIT!
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    ALL RELIGIONS ARE FAKE.



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    Re: knowitall – I find it ironic that you claim that religious peole are the most hateful and uneducated when by your comment you proved that you are a racist and discriminative. You probably have never been to the middle east and the only thing you know abot islam is what you have read elsewhere. You have no true understanding of the religon or the people and ignorance is not an excuse for maligning millions of people.

    Like I said earlier it is just as hard to be gay in the south of the US as it is anywhere else. And to be perfectly honest in America they do not even allow abortion whereas in the middle east you can have an abortion before quickening takes place. So in some regards the West can be just as restrictive.



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    Re: Aussieone – why do you need everyone to believe the same thing as you?

    Just because someone has a different belief system to you doesn't mean that you can attack there religion.

    You're worse then the super religous christian's who try to convert people in the street. You are attacking anyone who does not believe what your saying and implying that because they do not think like you they are somehow inferior.

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