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Dr. Murray's Lawyers Say MJ Killed Himself!

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Dr. Conrad Murray's legal team has come up with a verrrrrry interesting defense for their client's trial!

Dr. Murray's lawyers will be arguing the defense that Michael Jackson administered the deadly dose of Propofol to himself!!!

Oh, really?

Sources say the defense plans to argue the fact that Dr. Murray only administered 25 mg of Propofol to MJ, but when he left the room to use the bathroom (for two minutes), Jackson self-injected the rest of the bottle (close to 20 ml) because he was "frustrated"!

The defense will also be arguing that MJ "liked to push it" when it came to his sleeping meds, and if Dr. Murray had been trying to hide the bottles of Propofol from the authorities, why didn't he hide the one that rolled under MJ's nightstand?

Hmmm.

Stone cold defense or….?

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68 comments to “Dr. Murray's Lawyers Say MJ Killed Himself!”



  1. 1

    MJ killed himself, in the same way JFK shot himself, and the people on the Hindenburg burned themselves up! COME ON!



  2. 2

    ohh yeah cuz im sure MJ had no warning about how the massive amounts of prescription drugs could harm him….he knew what he is doing the Dr. isnt all to blame



  3. 3

    That is both disgusting and vile. What a hurtful thing for the family to have to listen to, even though I think its garbage.
    -
    SO hoping this guy to jail time in a fed. prison.



  4. 4

    How are his attorneys going to find a lame excuse for the length of time it took to call 911 and not telling the paramedics what medicine was given to him.



  5. 5

    BS



  6. 6

    So he knew he capable of self injecting, so he left the drug in the room alone with him. Can an excuse get any lamer?



  7. 7

    of course he killed himself. you don't live like that and not know you are risking your life everyday. to pawn his death off on this doctor is ridiculous. the doctor just happened to be in the wrong place. if you're michael jackson i don't think who the doctor was mattered…it was going to be anyone who'd facilitate his problem. grow up…face it michael jackson may not be able to speak for himself…but the fact that he was flawed and lived a life of a sense of invinsibility…or preying for his own demise…is a given.



  8. 8

    lol
    dont even know what to say



  9. 9

    Why is this not believable? MJ had a very strange and unbelievable life. He was a drug addict. It could have happened.



  10. 10

    Yeah, it absolutely could have happen. However, that doesn't change the fact that HE still had Propofol when he WAS not supposed to. AND it was only supposed to be used in a hospital setting. He can give any excuse he wants, its still going to go full circle and just come back to why he had it in the first place.



  11. 11

    People take off your blinders. Michael Jackson was a drug addicted fool. Him injecting himself is not such a stretch. He lied about everything. His skin discoloration. His love of "boys in bed" and the fact that he had such an addictive personality. Michael Jackson is not a god simply because he made good music. He was a pathetic excuse of a man who was taking drugs and living in denial. Dr. Murray was not his doctor forever. He was a new hire because Michael wanted someone he could manipulate. Dr. Murry was wrong for administering that medication but it wasn't his fault that Michael died. It was MICHAEL JACKSON's fault he died. Cause Michael was an addict! PERIOD!



  12. 12

    I believe that this could be the truth. It is a sad fact for addicts! Its a shame that its taken this long for it to come out.



  13. 13

    OMG! This douche is so completely desperate that it's getting ridiculous! There's already witnesses saying that he was trying to cover his tracks instead of saving MJ's life, and board certified anesthesiologists that have made written reports of how Murray was so extremely careless and negligent. This "defense claim" sounds so stupid, who in their right mind would believe it?! Yeah sure, MJ woke up out of his sedation in the 2 minutes (btw murray is lying about that- he was gone for 40 minutes on the phone - his phone records revealed) and administered it to himself. He didn't hide the one under the night stand most likely because he forgot it was there or that would have been hid as well! The prosecution have already stated that there's a good amount of evidence against Murray and him flip-flopping his stories all the time is really digging him into a deeper hole! Murray should have thought about all of this before he signed the prescriptions….Justice for MJ will prevail!



  14. 14

    Wow, I honestly can't believe Murray is going to sit up there and let his defense say this when he know's what really happened that day. If this was the case (Michael so called injecting himself) then why wouldn't he have said that from the beginning instead of literally running away after his patient was taken to the hospital? Why would he have to take so long to finally call 911 after making several other phone calls after realizing that his patient wasn't breathing? This is what his defence has to come to, to try and get their client out of scalding hot water I see.. How dumb can they be?? When Murry supposedly left the room for "2 minutes" Michael was already sleep and more then likely had already passed away ;(. I don't care if Murry only adminstered 5mg, the fact is that he shouldn't have been doing that period. Especially without the proper back-up and you DON'T LEAVE YOUR PATIENT FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME under such medication in the first place. I hate that Michael's family will have to sit in on another court case regarding Michael and once again be subjected to a bunch of lies. Hopefully justice will begin to prevail tomorrow.



  15. 15

    At first I kinda blew off the idea reading only the 1st few lines of this post but making my way through it, it is believeable. Not saying it is or isn't but it is very possible.

    The problem for the defense now would be PROVING that and in that absence, I believe he will be convicted as he was the doctor administrating a drug that he was not allowed to be administrating. I believe Gerard Buttler (1 "t" or 2?) said it best when he said, "it's not what you know but it's what you can prove in court". If they want this to fly, they're going to play very heavily on his lifelong drug habit.



  16. 16

    @Christina, good point as well, if this guy knew that a drug addict was left in the room with drugs and capable of administering it to himself then there's a big red flag there. Then again, I think the biggest red flag is why would any doctor aid in giving drugs to a druggy. Oh wait, everyone wanted his money. I forgot self responsibility mattered anymore



  17. 17

    In the coroners report it distinctly says it would be impossible from the way it had been inserted for him to have self administered it. Also I am not sure after so much medication plus the propofol he would have successfully inserted the additional propofol. Not to mention Dr Murray is still way out on his time line. Propofol leaves the blood stream relatively soon, so it appears strange that it would still be in Michael’s blood stream.
    What I find interesting is that no one is reporting about the Midazolam found in his system. Another anesthetic – also one that calls for the same safety procedures as propofol. That was also found in his blood stream, which is strange as it also leaves the blood very quickly. Both were found in his bloodstream which means he in all likelyhood injected MJ with Propofol while he was still sedated with Midazolam.



  18. 18

    Re: mattyesmateo – This is rich coming from someon who obviously has brick walls for blinders and talking about living in denial? Where have you been living in the last few months now that everything you ever wanted to know about MJ has come out. Court transcripts, FBI reports. Anyway whatever.



  19. 19

    Re: MJ fan59 – Well U know what they say, desperate people turn to desperate measures….case in point - Murray! BTW- did your other pic ever upload?



  20. 20

    Re: samm414 – I agree with you, but I do also thinking claiming Michael committed suicide is sick. MJ was a drug addict, but I don't think suicidal.



  21. 21

    I doubt this is true. What we do know is that the circumstances of Michael Jackson's death was like something from a HORROR movie!! My opinion? They're both to blame.



  22. 22

    Oh my god. MJ committed suicide? Come on!! The doc is grabbing at straws. Too bad MJ is not here to defend himself.



  23. 23

    Re: Lafemme22 – "In the coroners report it distinctly says it would be impossible from the way it had been inserted for him to have self administered it."

    Exactly! and even so, if they try and say "Oh Michael could have someway maneuvered his way into doing it." do they really think that in just 2 minutes time Michael would have woken up, noticed Murray wasn't there, decided "Hey let me do it myself", and then could have managed to do the tricky task of administering it to himself, and then fall right back asleep just in time for Murray to walk in the room all in 2 minutes? Please.. When I wake up it take's me a good 2-3 minutes just to get out of my bed and walk to the bathroom which is a couple steps away since I'm half sleep. Him and lawyers are doing way too much now.



  24. 24

    Re: pinkchik03 – No, it never uploaded. I noticed that for some reason the only pictures that upload now happen to be pictures that I used pre June 25th… Strange. It's like Perez and his crew are forcing me to use the same one's as in the past and those are my only options. It's annoying but whatever I guess lol



  25. 25

    Now I'm really upset.. For them to pull this stunt is unbelievable to me. They have been sitting back for 9 long months trying to come up with something and this is it? They come up with this bull and Michael isn't even here to defend himself! People lied about him in court before but atleast he was there to defend himself. All the lies and cover up's that Murray did that day made no sense to do if at the end of the day they were going to whip out this nonsense as their defense right? It's easy for someone to take another person's mistakes and use it against them when your back is up against the wall and they are not here to defend themselves. If Michael wanted to administer any drug on his own then he had no reason to enlist the help of Murray a saw called "professional" in the first place right? Had he awaken while Murray had left for "2 minutes" then I'm sure Michael would have just asked for more meds. to help him fall back asleep like Murray said he had done in the hours previous.



  26. 26

    Re: MJ fan59 – My picture has never been uploaded - do you think they just don't upload pictures anymore?



  27. 27

    That makes sense. Michael Jackson was a DRUG ADDICT. That is like expecting a crack addict not to do a pile of crack if they were left alone with it. I agree. What motivation would Murray have to kill MJ?



  28. 28

    MICHAEL JACKSON WAS ADDICTED TO THE DRUGS THAT KILLED HIM!



  29. 29

    Re: mattyesmateoRe: mattyesmateo – I swear a Michael Jackson post can be related to his love of KFC and people like you will always include references to his skin conditon and love of children. "He lied about everything. His skin discoloration. His love of "boys in bed" First of all he did not talk much about his skin discoloration because like other vitiligo sufferers it is a touchy subject. He did not lie about it whenever he did talk about it either. His vitiligo was real. Get over it. Also he never lied about his love for any children and he said on national television several times that his room was shared with boys and girls. Don't always let your mind go to things being sexual because that was not where his mind was at all. Michael had his problems like the rest of us. His problems I would consider to be worse though because the whole world was always disecting him. He had a skin condition, he couldn't trust anyone, he was the target of an accusation that hurt his heart and soul, he was in mental and physical pain, couldn't sleep, was lonely but felt comfort in his children but was called a bad father etc. for protecting them and loving them as much as he did, and I'm sure he was stressed. On top of all that plus some he was attacked everyday by people who didn't understand him and didn't care to understand him. So before you judge him you need to try and take off your blinders and realize that he was only human.



  30. 30

    Re: mattyesmateo – cont: And Michael was far from a pathetic excuse of a man. He was the type of person that other men and women should strive to emulate for he actually cared and didn't pass judgement on anything or anybody. He saw with his heart before his eyes. You should evaluate your own life before calling someone else pathetic. That was a pathetic comment.



  31. 31

    Re: Lafemme22 – You know what I hadn't thought about that.. about them just not uploading pictures period because someone else was complaining about their picture not uploading either. Whatever the case may be I think it's RUDE, Perez. Post people's picture. If it were a Lady Gaga picture I'm sure we all wouldn't have any problem uploading that ( No diss to Gaga)



  32. 32

    Re: Lafemme22 – I know your question was directed to MJ Fan but I was having the same problem. I tried to upload a new picture a couple months ago and it wouldn't show up! The only one that would immediately show up was the one I have now. Don't know whats going on with this site??

  33. Laury says – reply to this


    33

    When it comes to MJ, anything is possible, but I don't think he wanted to diel. He said in an interview he wanted to be immortal, if anything, I think he was scared of death. Murray's lawyers are full of sh*it, period.



  34. 34

    there is only 20mL in a bottle of propofol.



  35. 35

    there is only 20mL in a bottle of propofol



  36. 36

    IDIOT!

  37. heyo! says – reply to this


    37

    Yeah, Okay. Michael Jackson killed himself. Think about it people, why would he commit sucide when the guy had so much going for him? I really doubt that he would purposly inject himself with propfol because he wanted to die. Even if it was his fault Dr. Murray was obviously not being careful. Why would he have the pills in the same room Michael was in? Why would he leave Michael by himself in a room with the drugs hes ADDICTIED to? Addicts can't control themseleves and it was Dr. Murrays job to keep Michael under control. How is Dr. Murrays defense team going to explain how Murray, waited a half hour to call the paramedics when HE KNEW Michael was unconscious. All the evidence points to this son of a bitch, lets hope some justice is served here and his ass goes to prision.



  38. 38

    If the doctor DIDN'T see MJ do it how does he know?



  39. 39

    Re: MJ fan59Re: pinkchik03 – I guess I am just going to have to remain as a palm tree or whatever I am.



  40. 40

    Re: posturing – I agree.



  41. 41

    Re: gimlet123 – True, very strange indeed.



  42. 42

    Re: mattyesmateo – YES!!



  43. 43

    it's a crime that the jackson's are trying to make a doctor responsible for the craziness that was michael jackson…they know what kind of life they live and what planet they live on…a life of privilege and anyone that would say "no" to any of them would be fired…they would get someone else…all of them are delusional, trying to act like they live normal lives…they are the crazy ones….and in this case to blame the 'messenger' so to speak…the unfortunate one that is here to take the responsibility for a guy that lived irresponsibly…that is a crime.



  44. 44

    Is Murray's defence team reading the coroner's report? Why then was MJ's FINGERPRINTS NOT FOUND ON THE SYRINGE? The iv was in a vein on the inside of the leg, and the coronner's report clearly states that Jackson could not have bent over to administer the drug from that angle. Besides administering iv anaesthetics in a domestic environment is a breach of the Directives for the prescription of drugs;
    General Medical Council (UK) Sept. 2008, Principles # 3
    "You should only prescribe drugs to meet identified needs of patients and never for your own convenience or simply because patients demand them."
    1. This is legally binding directive
    2. "identified need" in this case is sleep inducing medication, and not a general anaesthetic.
    3. The motivation here was greed as well as convenience.
    4. Prescribing" on demand " is a fraudulet activity.
    Only ignorant people would make excuses for Murray.



  45. 45

    PS If Jackson would begin to inject himself, he would loose consciousness within 5 to 10 seconds, so that he would NEVER be able to inject more than 3-5ml. at best. But this is all academic, nowhere did the coroner mention Jackson's fingerprints on the syringe.



  46. 46

    Re: tick_tock_tick_tock – Look who crawled out of their MJ postered covered wall. You picked up the scent of this post from a mile away didn't you??



  47. 47

    Defense Strategy #1- Micheal killed himself.

    Defense Strategy #2- The butler did it.



  48. 48

    Is he crazy? He was Michaels doc for a reason. Michael trusted him, therefor he felt safe with him and would have no reason to administor a drug when he has a trusted doc there to do it for him. The doctor was there for a reason. This guy is a joke.

  49. TCYB says – reply to this


    49

    If MJ "like to push it" then why did this doc give him so many different meds (at the same time) under his care?

    What was with those tons of oxygen tanks going up and down the stairs every morining that the cook saw the doc do, including 9:30 am the morning of his death? It is clearly OD in the hands of the doc.

    2 minutes is not even enough time to handle or set the bottle up correctly for injection and MJ was on 2 other drugs at that time with the PP that made him sleep and extremely groggy if he was awake (don't think so).

    The doc would have not gone to the toilet for 2 minutes if MJ showed signs of waking up before hand.

    It was mentioned in the very beginning by the doc that MJ did not like needles so the doc had to administer the drugs.

    Go to Hell Murray.



  50. 50

    Re: nanaama – yeah, maybe they can argue, within those few seconds before you become comotosed, he wiped his fingerprints off. In the real world he would still have the syringe in his hand because he would have been sedated before he would have had time to let go of it. Ridiculous.



  51. 51

    Michael Jacksons 25 year drug addiction is what killed him. NOT Murray.



  52. 52

    Re: tick_tock_tick_tock – Why do you keep repeating yourself? I see some thing's never change.. Madonna wouldn't approve of your constant childish taunting.



  53. 53

    Re: tick_tock_tick_tock – Why aren't U posting under Madonna's articles? In case U didn't know, your idol is a very big fan of MJ as well. She gave a heartfelt speech at the MTV vma's. Quit the snide comments! U don't know what you're talking about!



  54. 54

    just because it is Michael Jackson who died the public and authorities are looking for ANYONE to blame for his death but himself. Yeah, the doctor messed up but he didn't KILL Michael. If this were anyone else the authorities would have ruled it an accidental suicide months ago. I feel for the doctor.



  55. 55

    BULLSH!T

    I don't believe this at all, murray killed MJ.

  56. @v@ says – reply to this


    56

    Michael can't speak in his own defense here.



  57. 57

    Re: bwitty – "If this were anyone else the authorities would have ruled it an accidental suicide months ago."

    How could it be an "accidental suicide" when you have a so called Dr. sitting at your bedside giving you that fatal dose??



  58. 58

    I guess you'd say anything to get yourself out of trouble. Ridiculous.



  59. 59

    why is every one afraid to blame MJ himself??? i am a registered nurse who (before it was on national backorder) used diprovan (propofal, milk of amnesia) on many occasions and I KNOW the patient has to be intubated to use the drug. hands down - so by default so does dr murray. but why isnt it a hard concept to swallow that MJ did infact kill himself, intentionally or otherwise??? hollywood docs have a shit ton to answer for these days but why arent we ever holding the person themselves RESPONSIBLE??

    YES murray should go to prison, yes he should never be allowed to practice again, and yes maybe he should be responsible to pay some damages to the children ALONE for MJ's death. but the only person truly responsible for the death of michael jackson is MJ himself.



  60. 60

    Re: MJ fan59 – You're absolutely right.



  61. 61

    yeah, next he'll be saying zanny the nanny did it.



  62. 62

    Re: MJ fan59 - Re: pinkchik03 - Re: palm trees :) off topic a bit, but I was able to upload my picture just a week ago, but I was joining for the first time :)



  63. 63

    thats bullshit, if he was a GOOD doctor maybe (im not accusing michael of anything) you wouldnt leave a drug in the room with someone so they could inject themselves. and mj wouldnt do that, to his kids, his fans and his family, have a fucking heart. Ya and um if there is NOTHING to hide, and you are innocent then why would you hide all the drugs? i mean if your innocent you have NOTHING to hide.



  64. 64

    if he was innocent then he would have tried to save mjs life instead of hiding the evidence that he is guilty.. end of story



  65. 65

    Re: ItsJP2 – Oh you were to upload it at first? That's good. What happened to your picture now because it still isn't showing though?



  66. 66

    Dr. Murray should be ashamed of himself for suggesting that Michael Jackson killed himself. He knew the king of pop was an addict and yet he agreed to become his enabler for the money.



  67. 67

    Re: ItsJP2 – Really? I was able to upload a picture onto my profile page but it wasn't showing up on my posts…Hopefully yours will show up soon because MJ Fan59 and I had to use our old pics to show up on our posts! LoL!



  68. 68

    LOLOLOL!! We will see how far this defense goes! This guy is such a fool I can't wait to see him go to jail and I am sure with our legal system here in the US he wont get more than 5 years, if even that!