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Jackson Kids Knocking On Doors!

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And nobody recognizes them?

The children of Michael Jackson have been participating in standard field service of the Jehovah's Witness religion by knocking on strangers' doors and encouraging them to convert!

A source reveals:

“Growing up, Michael did it, too. It’s an important part of their faith Nobody even seems to know it is them. I am sure it is something Katherine would encourage. Becoming a Jehovah’s Witness was something she wanted for all her kids."

Prince, Paris and Blanket are also reportedly going to attend a private school in Los Angeles starting in the fall after being home-schooled throughout their lives.


They're really getting out in the world!

[Image via WENN.]

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    Good for them. I am also a JW and this will no doubt be good for them. Sure you get good and bad experiences but at the end of the day you learn to speak publicly, deal with people who are not necessarily the kindest and humility. You can't be too shy and do this so they will have to pray for the strength to keep going and will eventually find their way to through Armageddon and see their father resurrected and live happily ever after!

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    They were always out Perez but now are more photograph since their dad died. Michael did this during his Thrilller era but he wore disguises b/c he was obviously more recognizable.

  3. Thaye says – reply to this


    I don't wanna appear like an ignorant douche talking about things I don't really know anything about (I don't know much at all about Jehovah's witnesses, luckily(?)). But I pity them. You shouldn't be pushed into a certain religion as a kid. It's alright teaching kids about religion, about their similarities and differences from each other, but they should not be pushed into any specific direction. Everyone should choose for himself if he wants to be religious and which religion that shall be. I guess the Jackson kids didn't get to choose for themselves.

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    Thought Michael disliked that aspect of the religion and actually thought he gave up being a Jehovah's Witness?

  5. 7tizz says – reply to this


    Child abuse in it's most primitive form.

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    Re: Thaye – JW don't get baptized until they are adults so the children will have to choose when they are old enough to understand the religion and the commitments to actually be considered a JW and apart of it.

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    The kids are getting a chance to see what being a JW is all about. You can't know what a religion is unless you're a part of it. Then you can choose or not choose if it's right for you. They're great kids whatever religion they end up choosing. Just lovely and I hope they get to be kids without too much press in their face.

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    I have no problem with any religion but if you are going to practice a religion…actually do it. A good friend of mine is a devout JW and does not celebrate Christmas, birthdays etc as per their teachings…..Michael Jackson did celebrate Christmas and had lavish birthdays for his kids. Watch the documentary Martin Bashir made…there is clearly a huge Christmas tree in the background with loads of gifts. Maybe Katherine does not allow this - but Michael did. How confusing for those children!!

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    So sad! These kids left the craziness of their life with their pedophile dad and now are going door to door working for the Jehovah Witnesses cult! Disgusting! When will these kids ever live a normal life?????????

  10. 10

    The Catholics and the Vatican blessed Hitler while Aryan Witnesses died in the camps when all they had to do was be Nazi's. They chose to not side with the devil.

    JWs are some of the nicest people my secular ass has ever met.

  11. 11

    Re: HoorayforAlana
    WOW, I am not surprised BUT I did just finish reading Crisis of Conscience and that religious organization is a racket and anything but the only instrument of God. Its members are completely blind as to what lies they are being fed as "divine truth"

    They are victims for sure, total brainwashing.

  12. 12

    Re: ceb1234 – ah, but by then the damage is done….

  13. 13

    Well… didn't they usually have to wear masks when they were in public. I didn't know what these kids looked like until MJ died.

  14. 14

    I am glad the kids are socializing more with the help of grand-ma Katherine.
    And religion is actually good for kids.It helps them keep grounded and think about God a lot.

  15. 15

    Well just to clarify some things about Jehovah's Witnesses.
    Jehovah's Witnesses do a voluntary preaching work which is about Bible education not about conversion. Also children who have parents that are Jehovah's Witnesses learn about all religions so as to make an educated decision when one reaches the level of maturity to make a decision about religion. If anything Jehovah's Witnesses encourage children to have full knowledge about religions, more than many religions since it is a persons decision to get baptized, unlike some religions that baptize babies and such.
    You can believe what you want about Jehovah's Witnesses but most likely what you think you know about them is very different than what is fact.

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    Re: Morning_Is_Mocking_Me – Yes they wore mask but only when the paparazzi were outside their house with cameras. There are actual pictures of them without the masks before MJ died but mostly not in America. Their faces were covered when there was a mass amount of paparazzi outside.

  17. 17

    Does anyone think they these kids are going to be the future meal tickets for evil fucking Katharine??I can picture these kidsw being molested by someone within Katharines nucleus of pedophilias.

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    Re: Thaye
    I would have to respectfully challenge the notion that parents shouldn't expose them to their own religion and why a person choses a religion and why some don't. And the cause and effect of all of that. Parents should guide their children and at least give them a foundation in their own belief system but also supporting the child in learning about all religions. There should be a balance in my opnion. Children need guidance and for parents that believe in the Bible and beleive that it contains value, why not expose theirr child to their belief system?

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    Re: ceb1234 – That is technically untrue. Kids as young as 9 years old are allowed (and encouraged) to be baptized. I was baptized at age 12. My entire family was witnesses, so I never had a "choice" in the matter, it was just expected of me. Unfortunately when I decided I no longer wanted to be a part of the faith around age 19, I was excommunicated and cut all from my entire family and the only friends I had ever known. (Or should I say, the only friends I was allowed to have as a JW.) Hopefully if these kids don't get pressured into baptism before they are even old enough to know the lifelong "consequences". Being cut off from your family for simply choosing another path is not fun. Or fair.

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    Re: DoubleECupMagus – Read Crisis of Conscience if you want an inside view of this organization. It is true the organization directed their followers in some countries to act in certain paths that led to their horrific deaths while other followers in different countries were allowed to pass under the radar of political opposition so that the organization could benefit financially.

    some JWs are really nice and kind as are lots of religious folk from many faiths. That is true.


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    Re: pinkering
    really? cause when I was going to the Kingdom Hall and expressed an interest in YOGA you would have thought I wanted to carve a pentagram into my forehead and sacrifice my cat.

    I know firsthand all about it, and JWs are taught from birth their organization is the only acceptable path to God, all others will be destroyed at Armageddon. How is that for Christian love and humility?

    They are not open to higher education or reading non Watchtower publications. So everything they read about other religions has been villainized by the organization.

    This is not progressive religious freedom.

  23. 23

    i'm glad to hear that these kids are being allowed to be kids again. although i'm personally not sure about the jehovah's witness business, it's what a lot of normal families do and i'm glad that they're being encouraged to do it. same goes for them being put into an actual school with other children. i wish them the best of luck in life.

  24. 24

    this is sad. I dont think michael would have wanted his kids to be pushed into becoming jehovah's witnesses when he himself later in life, not only gave up the religion but suffered from it. If you watch the many many documentaries that were made of him, he describes being unhappy with the religion and wanting so badly to be able to enjoy Christmas but feeling guilty for doing so, even after having left the religion. This sounds like Katherine pushing Michael's kids into this religion just as she pushed Michael into it.


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    Re: aubrelynn
    Very typical experience. I was raised not knowing my extended family including half siblings since my parents converted and were told they had to break all family ties with non-believers in order to truely commit.
    So many people are left without family due to this HUGE part of the beliefs. You lose coming in or going out…

  26. Thaye says – reply to this


    Re: mystic pizza
    That's what I thought and what I intended to criticize in my first comment. If somebody actually is interested into a certain religion, he will find out himself sooner or later, by learning about just the basic ideas and beliefs behind a religion he will already know enough to decide whether he wants to pursue it further or not. No forced teaching and indoctrination required for that.
    (This way, I myself found out that buddhism might most likely be the thing for me if I actually were religious.)

  27. 27

    they was always "out in the world"
    that was the whole point of michael covering their heads so no-body knew what they looked like… so when they did go out to the park or the cinema they wasnt stared at or followed by paparazi… michael done a wonderful job of protecting his childrens identities, did anyone know what these kids looked like a little over 1 year ago? no!! and they could have been standing behind you in the supermarket queue or walking past you in the street and NOBODY would have known.
    just because we didnt see them "out in the world" dosnt mean they wasnt!

  28. 28

    Wow this is GREAT news. Its good the kids are being raised as Jehovah's Witnesses, its something Michael would have been proud of. He was also raised as a JW. As a Jehovah's Witness myself its something that makes me proud and happy knowing that the children are having a good spiritual unbringing…Its also good that they are finally attending school, instead of being homeschooled.

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    Re: pinkering
    I do not disagree with parents rearing children in their own beliefs, as many religious parents feel it is their parental duty, BUT to then cut off that child if at the time of maturity they decide they do not want to continue is cruel both to the child and to the parents who are expected to do this by their congregation elders. It is hypocritical of you to make these statements knowing full well the consequences of a teen or adult child decide they do not agree with JW teachings.

    I still believe for my family full freedom of choice and information on all religions as well as the choice of no religion be available. My bookshelves are line with books on many different paths, my children are free to read any of these books if and when they are interested.

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    I'm happy for the kids. Everyone has a choice and if they really didn't want to do it then they wouldn't have to. You can't force a screaming crying kid to go door to door and talk to people. So it's not like anyone is forcing them. When they're older if they decide it's not for them then that's their choice just like their dads. Michael Jackson did grow up as a witness but then with the whole fame, it was difficult for him to choose. He chose not to continue being a witness but he still beleived it was right. There are a lot of celebrities that have to deal with that choice. Being a witness is a full time thing and so is being a celebrity. So some people have to choose and others can handle balancing it out. Some celebrities who used to be or still are witnesses.. I'm not sure… are: Prince, Venus and Serena Williams, Ja Rule, Geri Halliwell, The Wayans… in white chicks, Naomi Campbell and i'm sure there are more but I don't know… Anyways! I'm happy for them.

  32. 32

    So sad that this "family" chooses to brainwash these kids into their cult after a lifetime of being raised "spiritual" and not belonging to any faith.

  33. 33

    Re: HoorayforAlana
    You're a Jehovah's Witness and read Perez Hilton's website? Uhhhh….I'm sorry, but after being apart of that religion (never got baptized) there is a reason why i try not to answer the door and quit going.

  34. 34

    half you people that are talking bad on witnesses dont have any idea what your talking about and your just be ignorant..i grew a witness and i still am a witness 23 years later cause i choose to be not because i was forced..most of my friends and family arent witnesses and ive never cut them out..yes you have some witnesses who give us a bad name cause they go too far with certain things but not all of us are like that…being a witness is the best thing i could have asked for..so are you people thinking its a cult need to get your facts straight

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    Re: ceb1234
    Thats not true. You can get baptized as a child. You have to go through questioning from elders when you make the decision on whether or not you want to be baptized, and show you understand the basic principles of their teachings. I would say bible, but alot of their "beliefs" are speculative and opininated and incorporated in scripture to seem like it all blends in.

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    Re: DoubleECupMagus
    Yea, ever become part of it, then decide to leave. Then see how nice they are.

  37. 37

    Re: mystic pizza – If parents dont teach their children about God and spiritual truths then who else is going to do it for them? You're basically condenming parents for teaching their children about religion. If you dont wanna teach your children then thats your problem, you probably dont go to any church or read the bible. But for chrisitna parents who do is commendable because they know the importance of raising a child in a goldly spiritual environment. Ofcourse later on in life the child will become an adult and will decide if to continue in the faith or not, but while the children are young or teenagers its the parents responsability to care for their child's spirituality and instruct them in the right path.

  38. 38

    glad to see they are doing something respectful with their lives not being big gay losers like you perez

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    Re: pinkering
    No they don't. They don't go indepth about other religions. They give small aspects from what I have seen. If anything they preach every other religion is wrong and false except theirs. Are you serious? And when they go door to door, it is in hopes that one day you will go to their kingdom hall, then eventually get baptized. They believe they are trying to "save" the right hearted ones. I'm sorry, but when you knock on someone's door at 9 in the morning, and they are still in their sleeping clothes with kids running around and they are nice enough to open the door and listen to you, the least you can do is give them an Awake and a Watchtower and leave them alone, but I have been out in service and I have seen them stand there literally reading scriptures to these people while they are trying to keep their kids from running outside for like 5 minutes. It has nothing to do with these people not being "right hearted" it has to do with some of them not taking a damn hint.

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    Re: Butterfly_1 – pretty sure I covered all that in a previous post.

    Most of my issue is with the organization not with individuals as I know how little knowledge of their own organizational structure they are aware of. I mostly just pity the JWs for their faith is built on a few mens ideas and decisions. Most of the organizations history is whitewashed and altered to be easier to swallow for its followers.. True faith can be built on what is in the Bible. The Watchtowers is full of half truths, out of context scripture and agenda.

    JWs are forbidden to read any outside source of info as it is deemed "apostate" and 99% will avoid it at all costs, so they themselves are choosing to be ignorant but it is out of fear and guilt. So, yeah, I dont fault them.

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    Re: Butterfly_1
    Thats the kind of bullshit logic they have. And the kind of shit they taught at the theocratic ministry school. Not all, but the whole "when you go door to door, presume whatever you tell them about the bible is more than they already know." Wheres the humility and non-judging in that? You tell me? You're gonna judge someone because they don't go to church that they don't know the bible? Or believe in God? You don't know that. You can't judge that, and thats the exact same problem I have with them. The do not judge part only applies when it comes to pointing the finger at them, but not for everyone else.

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    Re: mystic pizza – Everything posted in the Watchtower, Awakening magazines and any other literature published by the Jehovah's Witness is taken 100% from of the BIBLE, not man's ideas. You seem to be an APOSTATE..And the rest that you might say is simply YOUR OPINION. Stop trying to mislead people you satan worshipper.

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    Re: JessicaTandyWasMyHero – You're talking about JUDGEING, and you're judging ME? Was I even talking to you? No, I wasnt. Preaching from door to door is about TEACHING people about the bible, as a lot of people dont know much about what the bible says, as most habe never read it. Then if we person shows interests and decides they want to know more about bible truths then they receive a free bible study, if they choose to. So this is not about forcing anything on anything, in the end its the person who chooses if they want to accept the truth or not.

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    Re: Superhot

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    it's called brainwashing and it should be considered CHILD ABUSE!

  47. 47

    Who is this "source" you're getting info from?

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    Re: Hate Low Class People – When will you feel the need to stop commenting here and go away??

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    Re: aubrelynn – Well im very sorry you feel that way. I was raised in the truth and baptized at 9. All my parents did was encourage me and set an example for me, no pressure. I have younger brothers and sister one is 19 and baptized, my little sis that is 18 and brother that is 15 are not baptized yet and have not been pressured, but both have great interest.I dont know what made you feel to leave but i can assure youre not alone. I had my rough times but you wont find happiness anywhere else. Now im 21 and still going to meetings and participating in the field ministry because i want to.

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    Re: mystic pizza – Ok… you should do your research. Yes the bible was written by men but inspired by god. There is no flaw or conflicting information in the bible. If there is feel free to point it out. I recomend you find yourself a jehovahs witness and get the facts straight. You'll be surprised to what you will learn. and if you dont want to then you can keep your opinions to yourself. Oh yeah feedom of speech….

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    :) All this bad talk of JW is just arrising more interest and curiousity.

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    Re: Butterfly_1
    Ah, Butterfly_1, there you go and make a fine example of yourself. You dont know anything about me except that I dont agree with you and for that I must be "a Satan worshiper" and evil.
    As far as calling me an "apostate" , the governing body defines an apostate as an associated or past associated person having a belief other than what the organization preaches.
    Well, I am a past associate that does have beliefs other than some of theirs, so by their definition I am an apostate but to me, that is having an individual opinion. It is sad that your organization cannot tolerate individualism or independent thought. It is deemed destructive and evil as you have made so apparent.

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    I dont need to FIND a JW, I was one, a fulltime Pioneer in fact. I am not saying anything against the Bible. I have several in my home.
    I am speaking of JW publications. Only a couple bible quotes do not make it Biblical. A lot of the scriptures have been twisted so that the organization can utilize more power over followers.
    Why do you think the information published is always changing? I mean, shouldnt we be in the "New Order" by now? Wasnt Armageddon in 1975? Oh, wait, we arent supposed to talk about that right? Lets just pretend they never said that.

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    Re: aubrelynn – I was 21 when I was baptized, and I was never pressured by my parents. In fact they told me they would prefer I be older b/c they didn't want me to get baptized too young. Everyone's parents are different but that has nothing to do with the religion itself. I've also been 'excommunicated' and I decided to come back. Your personal experience is bitter but that doesn't mean the 7 million other active JW's in the world don't have wonderful things to say or happiness in the religion. It's a huge commitment and requires a lot of time and energy to be a JW so any practicing member has a good reason to keep doing so. And it's not b/c they are being abused or brainwashed. It would be much easier to sleep in on saturday morning.

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    I am an ex-JoHo and all I have to say to all of the "still practicing and in good standing" JoHo's is, "What the hell are you doing on this particular gossip site?" This is absolutely frowned upon by Jehovah and his true followers. You're no better than the rest of us. We are taught to stay AWAY from ALL forms of gossip and here you are. Some upstanding "Christians" you all are. Shame on you for trying to act all Holy and for trying to make everything seem all pleasant and rosy. I wonder what Jehovah thinks about you being on here. Bunch of idiots.

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    Re: HoorayforAlana – Aren't you taught to steer clear of gossip? What are you doing on here? Phony idiot.

  58. 58

    any religion that feels they have to "recruit" is fucked up!! let people come to you fucktards!! god i hate religious people of ANY kind!!

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    Poor little fellas….leave them alone!

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    Re: Butterfly_1 – I do have to say calling someone a "satan worshiper" isn't going to convince people that you know what you're talking about. Being judgemental about others when NO human is in a place to judge ANYONE is something that you should know.

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    his children should not have to participate in religious tasks, such as going door to door. they need to be protected

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    wow some ppl really need to get some lives if they get on a certain group of ppl who did nothing wrong to them. isnt that being discrimated against. if the kids want to go door-to door then let them. everyone has free will, nobody made them do it so why make it seem like the grandmother is forcing them. (ppl today are just crazy as mental ppl in a mental hospital, what has this stupid paparazzi world come to)

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    Re: mystic pizza – As far as Yoga goes I actually understand why a Christian based religion would frown on it because there is a saying: “There is no Yoga without Hinduism and no Hinduism without Yoga." Even the Vatican has frowned upon Yoga. So many people look down on someone being soley devoted to one faith nowadays. But maybe it is just that a person has searched and has finally found what they were looking for all along. Maybe instead of feeling sorry for JW's you should know that some, I admit probably not all, know fully what they are dedicating their lives to and enjoy the teachings of living a life to the best of their abilities. Wishing you peace in your lifes journey!

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    What makes me laugh is how everyone's "problems" with JW's are all untrue. It literally only takes a second to find out otherwise. It's like when you are going to meet a new person, are you going to find out everything about that person solely from someone who hates them? Eh.. probably not.

    So I figured I'd break it down for you, here are some of the issues I noticed on here.

    1. ceb1234 says- "JW don't get baptized until they are adults so the children will have to choose when they are old enough to understand the religion and the commitments to actually be considered a JW and apart of it."
    I know this wasn't the issue, but other people seemed to have a problem with this. You can get baptized whenever it's felt that you have a true understanding of the religion. The last thing that anyone wants is for someone to feel pressured into getting baptized when they're not ready. That's definitely not what getting baptized is all about.

    2. aubrelynn- "I was excommunicated"
    ..interesting. I believe the word you are looking for is "disfellowshipped" and it's completely different. I'd be happy to explain it to you.

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    3. aubrelynn- "the only friends I had ever known. (Or should I say, the only friends I was allowed to have as a JW.)"
    That's must have been purely something your parent(s) decided. The only thing that the governing body has ever done is encourage people to try to make sure their close friends are friends that are also friends with Jehovah and share the same morals as you. I had a best friend who was Catholic, but I knew and my parents knew that she would never be a stumbling block for me or harm my faith. And if anything ever came to that, I would know that the friendship wasn't worth it.

    4. mystic pizza- "I know firsthand all about it, and JW's are taught from birth their organization is the only acceptable path to God, all others will be destroyed at Armageddon."
    Firsthand? Because that couldn't be more wrong. JW's are taught that the BIBLE is the only acceptable path to God. That's just something you simply can't deny because you pick up any publication and THAT'S what it will tell you. The publications that are put out by JW's are tools to help read and understand the bible.
    AND: All others will be destroyed in Armageddon? That's wrong too. We most definitely believe that SOO many more people that are not JW's will survive Armageddon. Jesus died for all of us. Not just JW's, and we'll be the first to tell you that.

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    5. mystic pizza- "They are not open to higher education…"
    This is not as entirely wrong as your other claims, but not fully true either. The truth is that seeking higher education isn't encouraged because it COULD promote a materialistic lifestyle. You'd have to think about why you were doing it, because you wanted to have more money? To be able to have better things? I'm going to college. The first elder I told about my decision was incredibly happy for me. Because I am doing it the way that I think would make Jehovah happy. I can go to school, still go out in service, and once I graduate and start my career, it would leave me flexible enough to still serve Jehovah and make enough money to help support myself and any family I could have. (And let's not even go into how much trouble some kids get into at colleges)

    6. mystic pizza- "…or reading non Watchtower publications"
    Do you mean religious publications..? I hope so because I can't imagine you meaning any other literature at all, haha. That'd be ridiculous. But personally, I've never read or been told that I CANNOT read anything about any other religions? I have. And when do, it kind of helps my faith because reading about all of the teachings in other religions that contradict the bible is astounding.

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    7. mystic pizza- "my parents converted and were told they had to break all family ties with non-believers in order to truely commit."
    Wooah. That's not so good. These are the only situations I can imagine that happening in; The extended family in question would have served as stumbling blocks for your parents (and by that I mean things like persecuting them for studying or being involved in extremely sinful things, like witchcraft etc.). Or maybe it was an overzealous elder, but even that's a stretch. No one would have said without knowing anything you CANNOT be in touch with any of your family that is not JW's if you REAAAALLY wanna commit! Haha, that's really silly.

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    8. mystic pizza- "BUT to then cut off that child if at the time of maturity they decide they do not want to continue is cruel both to the child and to the parents who are expected to do this by their congregation elders."
    Again, I don't know where you're gettin' this stuff, because it just is not true. That's just how things work. My brother stopped going to the meetings and had gotten in tons of trouble as a teenager and young adult. Never once did ANY elder in ANY congregation we went to (we moved a lot) tell us to cut him off. I can only imagine that the person was openly persecuting and ridiculing the faith and then it could be deemed as unwise to continue to pursue a relationship with this family member. But if the person simply just decided that being a JW wasn't for them or that they wanted to see other things, it would obviously be disappointing for the parents but i couldn't see, or imagine an elder seeing that it would be a good reason to completely cut them off. There would pretty much have to be more to the story.

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    9. JessicaTandyWasMyHero- "Yea, ever become part of it, then decide to leave. Then see how nice they are."
    The whole idea is that everyone is holding onto the hope that maybe one day that person will change their mind. If a person leaves anything with a bad taste in their mouth chances are they aren't coming back. But just so you know, the amount of people that leave and come back is astounding. Some people are gone for years before they go back. I know this guy who was raised a witness and didn't like it because he was just a rebellious teenager and what not, but decades later something happened and it clicked in his mind that the only time he was truly happy was when he was studying, so he started going back. It's amazing and it really gives you hope for people you loved in the congregation who leave.

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    10. JessicaTandyWasMyHero- "And when they go door to door, it is in hopes that one day you will go to their kingdom hall, then eventually get baptized. They believe they are trying to "save" the right hearted ones. I'm sorry, but when you knock on someone's door at 9 in the morning, and they are still in their sleeping clothes with kids running around and they are nice enough to open the door and listen to you, the least you can do is give them an Awake and a Watchtower and leave them alone, but I have been out in service and I have seen them stand there literally reading scriptures to these people while they are trying to keep their kids from running outside for like 5 minutes. It has nothing to do with these people not being "right hearted" it has to do with some of them not taking a damn hint."
    This whole post is riddled with errors. First of all, we don't attempt to "save" people. I don't know where you got that from..

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    AND - "I have seen them stand there literally reading scriptures" I almost have to laugh at this (but I won't) because you claim that JW's don't use the bible and all of our publications are stuff we made up. So the whole point of standing there and reading a scripture with you that highlights a point in one of the publications is to say, "hey look, this is all about that stuff you will find it your own bible, here is a short example"
    (Also, on an unrelated note: don't think that everyone who goes out in service is there to be obnoxious. I know a lot of people that looove it but I feel so awkward when I do it and a lot of people do. I do love it and I know its the right thing to do, (there are several scriptures I could point out that explains this, if anyone wants) but I'm shy when it comes to things like that, haha. I feel so awkward and door-slamming, gun pointing, threatening and screaming people really do wear down on you. Sometimes to the point where a polite "No, we're not interested" is refreshing.)

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    11. mystic pizza- "Wasnt Armageddon in 1975? Oh, wait, we arent supposed to talk about that right? Lets just pretend they never said that."
    Haha, oh man. Please, let's talk about it. I can't help but laugh when people thing that there are things like this we "aren't supposed to talk about" uh.. we pretty much talk about it often at meetings. Just a couple weeks ago in fact, at the Watchtower study, it was all about 1914.

    JW's never have and never will claim to have any superior knowledge to anything. We have no prophets. God doesn't "talk" to any of our elders. All of our knowledge and beliefs comes directly from the bible and aided with the help of bible-based publications like Watchtower and Awake. And we let God's holy spirit guide us.

    And not all JW's are the same. You have some who are open and talk about their beliefs any change they get. Unfortunately, there are some who come on a little too strong. Some people are really timid about talking about their faith. If you don't like the person that is studying with you or anyone, try to find another witness.

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    Ok… all you naughty Jehohah's witnesses…. I don't think He'd be too happy that your spending time on Perezhilton.com when you all know what your "loving" god"thinks of Hollywood,Superstars, and Idolitry (and Madonna for that matter) think it may be time for the elders to have a chat "about" you….
    Liberated Early!

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    Aw. They are following in their father's footsteps. xD

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    Re: marchmaine – Dang you just wrote a LOT of stuff!!!! WOW! That was practically like a manual. I think you should slowly back away from the keyboard and take a breath haha. Kudos for defending your faith but MAN it just kept going and going and going haha.

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    They will grow up. They will be disappointed that they are not naturally talented like their adopted father. The world will lose interest and they will be lost.

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    Re: Butterfly_1 – The mere fact that you called someone APOSTATE and a demon worshiper shows that you have been brainwashed by your stupid cult leaders. JW's have been classified as a cult for decades. No amount of lying and whitewashing will ever cover up that fact. The organization is riddled with sexual deviates that abuse children and women. Here are hundreds of web sites from former members detailing how they have been abused, raped, molested and threatened by church leaders.

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    Re: pinkchik03 – Aw, is poor widdle Pink Chicken's fewings hurt?? I love retards that defend cults, you show how stupid you really are! ROTFLMAO!

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    I think it is awsome that they are learning about Jehovah, I'm gonna ignore all the negative comments because they are all coming from people who know nothing about the religion only by what they hear. They aren't being forced into anything because when they become adults they decide if they wanna get babtized or if they choose to leave the religion. I hope everything goes well for these kids because they need good things in life.

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    child abuse.
    telling them evil lies about the world ending and apocalypse shit to make them terrified.
    forced religion.. disgusting.

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    Tell these kids not to knock on Perez's door..that could get..uhh illegal.

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    Re: aubrelynn – I too chose against this religion, i was never baptised and it is not an occurance that a child is 'forced' into baptism as you have to go through the questioning etc and it has to be the individuals decision, it is pure chose and you would've had to make that choice yourself. Since leaving this religion I have a better relationship with my family and still keep in contact with the friends that I had. Your comments make it out to sound like a cult and although I don't believe in the religion, I respect my family for the having the courage and faith to believe in the religion wholeheartedly. As a child I was never deprived of anything and had a great upbringing and made all my decisions on my own. I don't know if you just have a chip on your shoulder but it sounds like you need to grow up a little and no one in this religion would EVER say that you could not have a relationship with your friends and family so this I feel would have been entirely your own decision.

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    Re: xqueenx – This comment shows that you are completely ignorant to the world. It is not child abse at all, I'm pretty sure that this way of life would be a significant step up from when they were forced to wear masks outside or were being dangled over balconies. Maybe you should do a little research before passing such single-minded judgement.

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    Re: ceb1234 – haha yeah ok, because all that programming that took place since birth will somehow change !!
    Pathetic !!

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    I don't think Katie is dumb enough to let that happen, at least i hope so… All relgions are cults, just looka at the disgusting catholics. It makes me laugh when some relgious people label other less popular religions as cults when they are all a bumch of fairy tale believing idiots. Get with the real world you bunch of irrational twits, Chritians are just as much as loony as scientology. Anyway i hope this story is not true becuase some of Michaels issue were becuase he was a Witness, not being able to celebrate xmas and birthdays and so on.

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    Re: marchmaine
    wow, you are IN IT deep. What are you, their PR dept? You didnt clear anything up, you just spouted out generalizations and some doubt on what some have experienced or felt. You dont know everything that goes on in every congregation worldwide.

    As I said, my issues are with the organization, not any individual. I knew many nice people and many are very sincere in their efforts. That doesnt change the religions history or the core of whats being done to many….

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    Re: dimplecheeks – Most of society has faith in a higher power and that there is more to this life than just a wandering existence. If you don't believe in a God or that God would guide his creations then thats one thing, but calling people idiots for believing in a higher power just sounds ignorant and rude. Organized religion and cults by definition are two different groups. Whether right, wrong or whatever that is the fact. The Branch Davidian is a cult in every sense of the word. Catholicism although has the whole following one enigmatic leader (the pope) down is still not an isolated group, thus by definition is NOT a cult. The Hindu faith is not only religious standards but also has much philosophy along with it. ANyway I could go on and on about religion, but I think it is a tragedy that people have become so disinterested in religion when it is sown into the very fabric of every culture ancient and modern.

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    these poor kids. sending them out into the public eye to shill for religion doesn't seem fair. if you are an adult and you choose to go harass the public and be a general nuisance that's one thing, but to force kids into it is just sick and wrong.
    nobody wants JW's coming to their door; everybody hates it.

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    Re: Seansun – I'm glad your parents weren't like mine… but let's be honest, a lot are. My father was an elder from the time I was a small child, therefore it was the only religion and way of life I was ever exposed to. I NEVER HAD A CHOICE BECAUSE I KNEW NOTHING ELSE. I was taught that being a JW was the answer to all life's problems. If I was depressed or sad, I was told I needed to read the bible more. If I was still sad, I was told I wasn't trying hard enough and I needed to pray more. "Rely on Jehovah". Well I tried.. my whole life. And I always felt incomplete. So I decided to find my own path at age 19. I knew being a witness was not in my heart and did not bring me the same happiness it "seemed" to bring others. THAT WAS MY CHOICE. And you know what I got for that decision? Beat over the head with the "consequences". Cut off from my family. My father told me to not even call the house anymore. They wouldn't allow my little sisters to associate with me during that time.. I missed seeing them grow up. Luckily, as they got older they wised up on their own and are in the process of trying to separate themselves from "the truth". Their only hestitation? Facing the same discrimination and distain I faced from my family and JW "friends".

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    Yeah.. its great as long as you play by the JW rules. As soon as you have a mind of your own? Disfellowshipping, shunning, CUT OFF IN EVERY WAY. Do any of you understand the manipulation behind that? Read up on polygamist camps.. it's the same exact concept. You are loved and accepted as long as you don't question anything.

    All the falsehoods I was raised to believe in.. Satan would devour me in the world, chew me up and spit me out.. so many lies. So much manipulation. You know the real evil in this world? Any organization and teachings that use fear tactics to control people. WAKE UP TO WHAT YOUR RELIGION IS REALLY ABOUT. You can't see it because you never have a chance to think clearly. I truly hope one day you will.. for your own sake.

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    Re: marchmaine – Please stop trying to simplify every arguement with regurgitated head knowledge you've been spoon fed 3 times a week.. for who knows how long. Of course you believe every word of it.. I know the superiority you feel thinking you have "the truth". Trust me, I know because I've been there. I was an auxilary pioneer for years, my father was (and still is) an elder, my mom, a good christian wife. So stop acting like I don't know what I'm talking about and trying to call me out on using the word "ex-communicated". Yes DUH I know the JW term is disfellowshipping. I was simply using ex-communicated for the laymen who aren't familiar with JW lingo. The concept is the same, the point I was trying to make.. I WAS SHUNNED for using my mind and making my own choice. Try explaining that away. Tell me how it's so different from a cult? Please enlighten me on all you know… so I can tell you why YOU are wrong. (And for the sake of all other readers, I'll keep my rants to a million words or less. Unlike you.)

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    Re: aubrelynn
    In regards to a religion like Jehovah's Witnesses having consequences for those whom do not follow scripture/beleif system and in contrast other religions that speak one thing and allow the followers to do what they want. If anything Jehovah's Witnesses are less hypocritical and actually follow through with disfellowshipping those that want to live a lifestyle that is in opposition with how they believe. It makes way more sense than churches allowing patrons to sleep around, get drunk and go to war killing people; which is the opposite of what Christ taught. I get the whole disfellowshipping thing. I wish more churches actually would enforce what they teach. If people want to be a part of a religion actually do it 100%. If you don't want to be a part of a religion do your own thing.
    As far as your family shunning you then screw it. They have chosen their path just as you have chosen your path. Thats life. Parents die and you have to eventually stand on your own two regardless of what you believe or don't believe.

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    Eh.. I know I wrote a lot. I wasn't really worried about it though because obviously people still read it, haha.
    And I really do hope that what my wording didn't sound condescending, that's not what I intended at alll, so sorry if that's the way I came across.

    Ok so, there are a whole lot of qualifications of cults that JW's just don't come close to.
    A huge one is that we do not have one charismatic leader. There are millions of JW's all over the world, as a result of that we have many branches and the governing body has multiple people and the amount changes but it will definitely never be just one person.
    And financial reasons are also a big indicator that we don't fit as a cult. Our whole organization runs on donations. We don't pass around collection plates, we don't tithe, we would neeever tell anyone that they had to donate anything. All donations are done voluntarily and anonymously. You're not going to get anything special for donating a large amount and you're not going to get ridiculed for donating a dollar.
    We also don't claim that if you don't follow our religion that you will have any sort of eternal suffering. I said already according to our beliefs that millions of other people who aren't JW's will survive Armageddon, and if someone doesn't, there's nothing. They just stay dead. They don't suffer, feel anything, have thoughts. Which doesn't bother a whole lot of people.

    Anything else?

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    Re: pinkering – I agree about hypocritical religions etc. and it seems we agree that if you have no interest upholding certain rules or guidelines, you shouldn't pretend otherwise. I made that independent decision years ago, which is why I left "the truth" of my own freewill.

    My biggest issue is that on one hand, they preach that you shouldn't consider dating until u are an adult (i.e. out of the bloom of youth) because dating signifies u are mature enough for marriage, and the lifelong commitment that goes along with that huge decision. Yet, they will allow (and even encourage) children as young as 9 or 10 to get baptized? Make a lifetime commitment to a religion? Sure, a child can have the head knowledge to know basic scriptural concepts, answer some questions, etc. But to truly know the impact it will have on your entire life? It's absurd to think a child could fully comprehend such a serious matter.

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    Re: pinkering – So I'm sorry, I can't justify my entire family (parents, sisters, aunts, uncles, grandma) and friends shunning me because I chose not to uphold a dedication I made at TWELVE years old. Sure it was my "choice" to get baptized. But anyone that was raised from childhood in the religion knows what's expected and encouraged as a JW youth. (Especially having a father as an elder. If you're 16, 17 and still not baptized, trust me.. the other brothers will look at your father as a poor spiritual head.. cuz clearly he must be doing something wrong.) You are praised for going out in service, studying etc. Baptism is the commendable choice. They never say wait until you're out of the "bloom of youth" (adulthood) cuz they want you to do it while you're young, when you're most impressionable. It's by design… they want u young so u never have the option to leave when you're older. Once you're baptized, if you leave, you know the consequences. It's designed to keep you in line.

    Manipulation, plain and simple.

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    On the flip side, if you enter this type of religion as an adult.. you are likely a very lost soul. Hit rock bottom.. a victim of Satan's world. Maybe into drugs, maybe from a dysfunctional family.. whatever it may be, you're searching for some "answers". And what better than the story you hear from JW's. This new perfect world.. just around the corner. All you have to do is follow some rules, fall in line, and the rewards will be endless. It takes the pressure off academics, career goals, etc.. all your efforts can be directed to Jehovah and you will be blessed a hundred fold. So you buy into it.. keep chasing that carrot.

    Sound familiar to any of you?

    What so many don't realize is that true happiness comes from within ourselves.. you just need the strength, integrity and patience to let life unfold completely. Follow your heart.. listen to your instincts. If you need the religion to be a complete, happy person.. then go for it. Maybe that's truly the path you're meant to be on. But ask yourself, if there was no promise of that "perfect new world, ressurection hope, etc.".. where would that leave you?

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    Re: Hate Low Class People – Believe me, I could really care less what U think. It's your consistent ill-informed statements that have me laughing. U didn't even deserve the attention I gave U with my last post. Do yourself a favor a get educated on the topic you're speaking of.

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    Oh please. Stop the arguing already. Half of you are right, half of you are wrong, and you both think you're the half that's right.
    But please… PLEASE…look at the definition of the word "cult" before you start slinging it around like poo.
    a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
    b. The followers of such a religion or sect.
    2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
    3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
    4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
    a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
    b. The object of such devotion.
    6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

    Hmmmm……sounds like just about any religion I've ever heard of. So let's stop using that very broad term. It means absolutely nothing.
    As for the witnesses that are on here being "naughty" for being on here…they're not perfect. Only one man ever was, and the witnesses do everything they do to copy him. Seems to me, they're only ones that do.

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    Re: deabeth – I agree, the term "cult" means many things, depending on the context in which you choose to use it. Or it can be an overall stereotype. My personal definition deems it as any religious group or sect that uses manipulation and fear tactics to control its members. I'm not hung up on the word cult.. its just a general term for groups who act a certain way. Control, fear, manipulation. Take a serious look at the way the JW organization is set up and you will begin to see the truth.

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    Re: aubrelynn – Again, Oh please. And thankfully, we don't use your personal definition of the word.

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