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Two steps forward, one step back. What is wrong with people?

Yesterday, a morally in tuned judge ruled that parts of Arizona's new Immigration law would be put on hold for further review, including the section requiring officials to check a resident's immigration status when enforcing other laws if there's a reasonable suspicion the person is in the United States illegally.

We were thrilled by the news, as were many others who have been fiercely protesting this law, which is basically legalizing racial profiling!

Yeah, well, the dishonorable Governor of Arizona isn't happy with this decision to hold back and has filed an appeal to lift the preliminary injunction so that the ENTIRE law can take effect…and like, NOW!

How about, instead of that, you just BACK THE EFF OFF?!?!

Ugh! This whole thing is so super frustrating! We can't stand seeing such blatant inequality being tolerated!

Boo on you, Arizona!

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  1. 101

    I live and work in Arizona near the border. We pay outrageous taxes so our government can pay for illegals who are allowed to go to our schools even without documentation. Illegal is illegal and they are making the lives of people who are legal much more difficult financially. Our government is in debt because of the illegals who should not be allowed to stay in our country unless they are willing to become legal. And BTW, Perez, don't you know about the federal already in effect? It says that people can be stopped anytime, any place, for any reason and asked to prove citizenship but it's never enforced. If our government has to take steps to protect itself from going bankrupt when the federal government won't help then so be it. It's not about race, period.



  2. 102

    [re=5241891]Re: amanda



  3. 103

    Re: gableoc

    Illegals may not be able to take from our welfare system but if they go to the hospital with no insurance and no money to pay, we foot the bill. And there are thousands of illegals in Arizona school systems who are allowed to attend school no matter what their status. It costs the Arizona government over $7,500 per student from kindergarten through high school and if they are illegal, they or their parents are not paying taxes to cover these costs. Teachers are being laid off because the Dept of Education cannot afford to employ the necessary amount of teachers because they are going broke paying for illegals to attend school.



  4. 104

    Re: Gary78 – when are you going to understand this law violated the rights of LEGAL citizens not just illegal aliens.. that is why it was (partially) stopped.. i live in arizona and no one here was happy about it.. no one.. we are all for getting out the illegal immigrants but not at the expense of the law abiding citizens of our state like myself..



  5. 105

    Perez, you are an IDIOT. These people are illegal and needto be deported ASAP. They are taking our jobs and get benefits just like a citizen would have. I'm all for letting them come in as long as they file the papers to make it legal. Call me closed minded and say I'm insecure with chnage but this is the way things should be.



  6. 106

    Re: Selemi – i agree with your reasons..to better their lives HOWEVER, because arizona borders a non-white country, it's being misinterpreted as being a race issue and it's not! it's about being legal and whose not. i don't pass judgment onto others and i try the very best that i can to live my life with an open mind and an open heart. i have no problem with people coming here because lets face, that's how we got here. but i would expect them to do it legally, no matter what their background is. there are people in this country, legally, that struggle to get their children out of the projects or hoods, just like some illegals are trying to escape their dark country. but I WOULD LIKE OUR COUNTRY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COUNTRY FIRST! we take care of everyone else, but not the people who llive here LEGALLY! WTF?



  7. 107

    After decades of passively watching this problem grow, Americans are now more aware of the severity of this issue. Our government has demonstrated a complete lack of urgency to control illegal immigration both on the borders and within the interior. Illegal aliens will be as corrupt as the system allows them to be. The problem of illegal immigration doesn't need anymore studies or debates, it needs leadership and enforcement. Because our government can't enforce the existing immigration laws, should we be confident they will manage a much larger comprehensive immigration reform? Because our government has at all levels failed to control illegal immigration, legislators are now addressing the problems at their local levels with bills to manage it incrementally, piece-by-piece, rather than trying to fix the national crisis at once–an impossible task.



  8. 108

    What most Americans are demanding is to secure the borders, enforce the existing laws inland with no sanctuary status, punish employers who violate employment laws, remove incentives by curbing social services and demand that Latin American leaders discourage illegal entry into our country. We must also address the fact that we're soft on illegal aliens caught in crimes and are not deported. No other country would allow this to continue. 40% of illegals entered legally and in bad faith overstayed their visas. Yet there is still no reliable method to verify if visa overstays have left the country. If we remove the social services and job magnets that attract them into our country, significant self-deportation will occur. Another magnet that must be addressed is the foolish birthright citizenship program that has resulted in millions of babies and parents receiving instant rights and benefits. Public housing and other services are provided for the families through their 'anchor baby' while American citizens are being turned away. This antiquated program must end. Government agencies and officials at all levels must address the costs associated with this kind of abuse. Past mistakes have been made in attempts to fix illegal immigration and our communities can no longer afford these kinds of mistakes.



  9. 109

    America must have immigration enforcement that reflects the nation's call to respect our laws in balance with the human side of illegal immigration. This must override the narrow interests of the business lobby, expanding government agencies and the government officials who envision their expanding dependent class and source of votes. Recent language by Senator Reid, Senator Schumer and their peers reveal they're out-of-touch with the realities of illegal immigration. For example, there's nothing "draconian" (according to Sen. Reid) about our immigration laws being enforced, laws which are already the most liberal and inviting in the world. According to Sen. Reid our border security fence project is "a symbol of fear and intolerance." Equally disturbing are comments by Congresswoman Pelosi who expressed her outrage of ICE deporting parents apart from their birthright children while she refuses to address the root cause of that scenario, our government allowing millions of birthright citizens.



  10. 110

    If our government would stop the practice of birthright citizenships then the family separation scenario would largely end. With emotional platitudes she ignores the cause and expresses disdain towards the hard working enforcement agents trying to do their jobs. These same legislators and their peers are opposed to e-Verify for fear of ID fraud (it is 99% accurate for legal workers and 54% accurate when fraudulent ID numbers are used) while failing to address the fact that ID fraud is already rampant in the illegal alien community. On one hand they don't want businesses validating something as important as the legal right to be employed in our country while on the other hand OSHA enforces how businesses store paint or provides a certain level of lighting. This is a complete failure of priorities.



  11. 111

    Re: gableoc – you like illegal immigrants who follow laws? That's irony at it's best. If they are here illegally, they did not follow the law. They are criminals just by their ILLEGAL status. I don't understand why this is so difficult for some people to understand.



  12. 112

    America cannot suddenly disregard our forefathers' immigration principles simply to appease the U.S. Chamber Of Commerce and the National Council of La Raza. Embracing citizenship and our legal principles are precisely what have made our country successful, stable and unique in the world. These concerns do not represent a selfish interest in protecting our country from the inclusion of healthy and legal immigration; rather, they are about being a nation of laws. These laws and responsibilities apply to everyone without a hint of racism or xenophobia. History cannot be rewound as some activists would like in their "Reconquista," to re-conquer the land (as in the days of the Pueblo People, a land of barrenness before the borders were established). Angry Mexicans should direct their energy towards their own government or towards Spain for the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire and the Spanish colonization of the Americas. Mexico won its independence from Spain, so now they want to abandon the independence they won in Mexico? Why now the anger and attitude of entitlement towards the United States? This is in part due to the Mexican leadership's propaganda of blaming America for their problems.



  13. 113

    The pro-amnesty groups would like to compare today's illegals with immigrants from the past, such as the understandably teary eyed migrants who's joy swelled when they approached Ellis Island and the statue of liberty. Today's illegals are an entirely different group that has lied on their visitor's visas, snuck across the border while leaving mountains of debris, committed tax and ID fraud, birthed their anchor babies, worked the social service systems, wired billions of dollars out of our country, gained illegal employment and failed to meet naturalization requirements. Today there are many immigration laws and requirements in place including modern forms of ID and a complex governmental and employment infrastructure. These systems cannot be bypassed. Every developed country has immigration laws. Without them sovereignty and national identity are weakened, security is lost and a perpetual string of problems occur as a result. The United States naturalization laws were established in 1790. Since 1929, illegal entry into the United States has been a federal crime. America is not a place, it is a nation. Its people are not residents, they are citizens.



  14. 114

    Anti-enforcement religious organizations try to see a parallel between historical events of migration in the Bible and today's illegal immigration. What they fail to acknowledge is what the Bible says about respect for the law and respect for those in government authority. Those who truly want to obey God will do just that and will realize God's provision in their home countries rather than trying to obtain it through lawlessness in a foreign country. They also fail to acknowledge the fact that even during biblical times becoming a citizen of many countries was actually quite difficult, becoming a citizen of biblical era Rome for example. The American Conference of Catholic Bishops (who are excluded from paying federal income taxes) have been quite aggressive in their push for amnesty. We would encourage them to push for some amnesty to their own pristine Vatican City in Rome, 200 uneducated migrants from Mexico with unknown criminal backgrounds would be a great start.



  15. 115

    Most Americans respect the laws while raising their children to do the same, yet they're aware of millions in the country who violate not only immigration laws but virtually every law that exists. Americans notice the unscrupulous businesses that hire them and the government agencies that cater to them at great expense. Our officials are charged with the responsibility of oversight and have failed to do so on a scale unimaginable. It's obvious our officials have allowed this problem to grow un-checked. For example the Border Patrol will approach suspicious individuals walking or driving within about a 20 mile range inland to verify their legal status. However, once illegals make it into our cities and communities where the issues are even greater, they magically become unapproachable and off-limits for fear of "profiling." This is an inconsistent and ineffective policy.



  16. 116

    Government agencies and lobbyist also have a convenient history of under-estimating statistics and costs. If an automatic path to citizenship (i.e., Amnesty) is offered, government leaders will quickly realize there are significantly more than just 10-11 million in the country–in fact, there are more than 22 million. This would also be an offense to the millions of honest immigrants who have become citizens through the legal process. The opportunity to live and work in America must remain an invited and controlled privilege, not to be gained by backdoor tactics or by paying a small fine.



  17. 117

    Americans have witnessed millions of illegals openly engage in undesirable activities while enjoying special treatment that our own citizens don't receive. Such activities include catch-and-release (a type of sanctuary status that even foreign diplomats don't get), failure to appear in court, immigrant gangs, drug and human smuggling, violent crimes, massive identity fraud, illegal voting, driving under the influence, hit-and-run accidents and various other motor vehicle violations, tax free incomes, free social services (including housing and food stamps), free emergency room care, public school enrollments, a full range of medical services for family members due to chain migration–including elderly parents who draw on the healthcare system and maternity care for their anchor babies. As if this weren't enough, they then wave their foreign flags in the streets of America demanding their rights yet they don't have the courage to demonstrate in their native countries to fix their own countries' problems.



  18. 118

    Across the nation, District Attorneys routinely cut plea bargains with illegals caught in crimes who aren't deported or incarcerated, only to repeat their crimes in the future. If they agree to be deported (many times agreeing to self-deportation), they often return to the U.S. in short order and are emboldened against our laws and courts. 80% on deportation orders have not been deported. These kinds of activities are hard on the nation and its communities, yet amazingly people are expected to buy the idea that illegal immigration is somehow "good for America." Americans must ask themselves if these are the people they want to reward with citizenship while others have waited in line to be here legally. Americans are learning that the 14th Amendment was not intended to give special benefits to illegal mothers and their birthright citizen babies, this amendment was intended for the children of African slaves. Americans are becoming outraged that their leadership has allowed this amendment to be used as a magnet for illegal immigration.



  19. 119

    Are all illegal immigrants bad people? Of course not. Some work hard and try their best to support themselves independently. However, all illegal immigrants have in bad faith violated federal immigration laws. This, in turn, leads to a long string of other violations, impacts on society and attitudes that affect our communities. The illegals themselves often pay a high price for living in the shadows. For example many crimes against illegal immigrants go unreported for fear of deportation. Some in law enforcement claim that asking for the legal status of persons would hinder their ability to reduce crime, claiming that illegals would be afraid to report crimes for fear of deportation.



  20. 120

    That position contradicts itself because with immigration enforcement the number of illegal aliens committing crimes would be reduced if their total numbers were reduced. Our government has also confused the illegals by not sending a strong message to the world about our laws. Instead the message has been: "If you get across the border, you're 'home free." Now they're stuck in the middle of this problem, trading problems from their home countries for even bigger problems here.



  21. 121

    Most illegals will not assimilate because they never planned to or need to. With so many catering to their wishes and needs there's little incentive to assimilate. Instead of becoming Americans, more than any immigrant group in American history they turn their communities into little Mexicos. Preserving ones culture is worthy, pushing your culture onto others while in their country illegally is offensive. Many live quite well here, while others with thrifty lifestyles wire billions of dollars back to their native countries for powerful savings accounts. An entire housing market has evolved in Latin America to build homes from remittance money, paid for in full by cash. With no mortgages these are nice homes that many Americans will never realize themselves. In many cases Americans who lose their jobs and homes are as a result of illegal hiring, the undercutting of prevailing wages, jobs lost to NAFTA and offshore business. Rarely are the labor savings passed onto the American consumers. When the business organizations lobby our elected officials (a partial list is provided on this page) that they need illegals otherwise they can't fill their jobs, this is a self-serving myth.



  22. 122

    Citizens and legal immigrants would proudly fill those jobs, but at prevailing wage. Business organizations are simply salivating at undercutting the prevailing wages or expanding their consumer markets. This is their shortsighted "rush to the bottom line" at the expense of lost jobs to citizens and eliminating competitive businesses who obey the laws. This is not the American way of healthy competition that encourages progress. Rather, it is the worst form of activity to be found in business. Business lobbyists also fail to consider how this activity shifts numerous social costs onto the nation.



  23. 123

    Americans know that one phone call from their President could charge the United States full-time or National Guard military to secure (even under strict rules of engagement) the remaining open-border sections known for crossings. But our previous President capitulated with the Mexican President's request to not use the military to secure our borders, knowing how effective this would be. Internally, because of their activities in the country, more than 600,000 state and local law enforcement officers come into contact with illegal aliens every day. State and local police make up approximately 96 percent of U.S. law enforcement and are an effective force multiplier for immigration enforcement, yet few are using the ICE 287(g) program so the criminals are not being turned over to ICE. This practice must stop. ICE often claims it doesn't have the resources to pick up even those already detained for them, Americans expect more than excuses. If even our military bases' security is now largely contracted out, ICE can certainly contract out drivers in government vehicles to pick up those who simply need to be transported.



  24. 124

    Because government managers have failed to manage the existing immigration laws, how will they manage a new and greatly expanded immigration program? Because illegal immigrants have failed to follow the existing laws, why would anyone think they'll suddenly come forward and follow more immigration laws or pay fines? Americans also see the inconsistency between "talking tough" about border security while at the same time providing billions of dollars in government services for those in the country illegally. Most agencies don't even bother to ask for their legal status! By providing free services to illegal immigrants, these agencies use up resources that our citizens need–citizens who deserve to have priority. The costs for providing those 'free' services are being shifted over into higher taxes and insurance costs. As a result, many inner city hospitals are closing or moving, schools and agencies are stretched to the limit, taxes are on the increase. The American people can no longer be forced bear the weight of the failed leadership of its neighboring countries. Those countries and their people must now bear that weight for themselves. Immigrants will not value American life if it's quickly found by entering through a back door path in the shadows. All countries must of their own sweat equity and in the open light of day develop better standards and opportunities for themselves, only then will it be embraced, even unto death.



  25. 125

    The business lobby for cheap, illegal labor is shortsighted. The undocumented are becoming more selective about the jobs they'll do and how much they're paid. If they're granted legal status they'll soon demand the same prevailing wages and standards that citizens receive, thereby eliminating the key benefit of the business lobby. Most illegal workers are not doing farm labor. Because the Latin American leaders have failed to create a strong middle class, illegal immigration is now hurting the American working class while self-serving businesses and government agencies look the other way. The shortsighted business community harms their own long term interests and that of America by lowering the employment standards instead of raising them. We're seeing the results of this already. The question is if America is going to remain a nation of laws and principles or will the vanishing dollar overrule all else? Will living in America continue to be embraced, or will our country simply become a job site? When laws and principles are allowed to be broken on a scale this large we now find ourselves with repercussions few could have imagined.



  26. 126

    Through its issuance of Individual Tax Identification Numbers (ITINs), the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) appears to be blind or indifferent to the reality that it has:

    created an official U.S. tax number that illegal aliens are using as identification, thereby making it easier for them to meld unnoticed into our society;

    endangered homeland security by issuing ITINs to illegal aliens, without adequately ensuring that they are denied to terrorists, criminals on the FBI database, and those under deportation notices;

    exceeded its traditional role as a tax receiver and processor by marketing the ITIN to illegal immigrant communities;

    failed to provide adequate safeguards to prevent illegal aliens from receiving tax benefits to which they are not entitled;

    subverted U.S. immigration laws by withholding information from the INS and SSA about fraudulent activity of illegal aliens;

    provided an ID vehicle that advocates hope will be used to "regularize" illegal aliens; and

    withheld from public review data that is relevant to determining the economic contribution of illegal aliens to U.S. society.



  27. 127

    Re: me_shell28 – Why don't you first learn how to spell. You idiot.



  28. 128

    The events of September 11, 2001, were a wake-up call to the American people that something must be done to protect our core identity documents. They were shocked to learn that 18 of the 19 terrorists possessed either state-issued or counterfeit driver�s licenses or ID cards and all 19 had obtained Social Security numbers (SSNs) � some real, some fake. The hijackers simply tapped into an enormous market for fraudulent documents that exists because nine million people have successfully breached our borders and now reside here illegally. Their presence has spawned widespread document and identity fraud that threatens our ability to distinguish illegal aliens from U.S. citizens and legal foreign residents.

    This realization jolted Congress, many state legislatures, state motor vehicle departments, and the Social Security Administration into taking a variety of steps to protect the integrity of driver�s licenses and Social Security cards � the two most widely used identity documents in the United States � from misappropriation by illegal residents. Much remains to be done, but real progress has been made.



  29. 129

    Ironically, however, the IRS, a division of the Treasury Department, is simultaneously working to provide illegal aliens with a U.S. government-issued identity number that obviates the need for a Social Security number. It is called the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN). Very little public information about these numbers has been made available, even though the IRS began issuing them in July 1996, and over 5,500,000 of them have been issued.



  30. 130

    This year SSA sent out over 750,000 letters to employers of approximately seven million workers whose names did not match the SSN provided.2 Employees who cannot provide a credible reason for the mismatch either voluntarily seek employment elsewhere or are terminated. Unfortunately, the SSA has no legal authority to levy fines and penalties against either employees who fraudulently obtain a SSN or against employers who repeatedly submit large numbers of wage reports with incorrect SSNs. They must rely on the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to do so, and audits have revealed this rarely happens.3



  31. 131

    The IRS Provides "Official" Identification to Illegal Aliens
    The IRS�s seeming lack of interest in protecting the integrity of the Social Security number from fraudulent use pales to insignificance, however, when faced with the reality that it is responsible for providing a backdoor way for millions of illegal aliens to receive a U.S. government-issued identity number. And it is doing so despite the fact that in 1999 the Treasury Department�s Inspector General for Tax Administration said the decision by the IRS to issue these Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs) to illegal aliens "seems counter-productive to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) mission to identify illegal aliens and prevent unlawful entry."4



  32. 132

    Re: supersongbird – Sing super song bird.



  33. 133

    Genesis of ITINs. The audit report referenced above said that a 1994 IRS investigation uncovered significant compliance problems "with the $80 billion annual nonresident alien U.S. investment income." In response, the IRS created an ITIN for non-resident aliens in order to match information documents showing dividend, interest and other income earned by individuals to the tax returns they file. The IRS began issuing ITINs in July 1996.

    Either at the program�s inception or shortly thereafter, the IRS seems to have expanded the initial purpose of the ITIN by making a policy decision to issue it to resident aliens, including individuals residing illegally in the United States. The audit report referenced above questioned this policy to "legalize" illegal aliens.

    Significant portions of the report were deemed to be so sensitive they were redacted from the public document, in part because it is felt that some information could be used to facilitate fraud by illegal aliens. Once an IRS report has been redacted, it stays that way. Therefore, the full text of the 1999 Inspector General for Tax Administration�s report on ITINs is still not available for public review. No follow-up report was issued.



  34. 134

    Illegals get undeserved tax benefits. The 1999 report appears to include extensive commentary on the ITIN applications of 340,000 illegal aliens, but most of it was redacted. The IRS�s objective may be to collect tax revenue from the broadest base possible � a laudable goal. Ironically, however, this has resulted in the IRS ignoring illegals� presence in the United States. One of the reasons why illegals are issued ITINs is that IRS regulations determine resident alien status based on "substantial presence" in the United States, not legal residence. Thus, illegal aliens who file tax returns are treated in the same way as legal foreign residents and receive the same tax benefits, such as spousal exemptions, child and education tax credits. The one exception seems to be the Earned Income Tax Credit, which is available to legal permanent residents but which the IRS decided would not be available to illegal aliens.

    Intended or not, it is clear that a significant number of illegal aliens are receiving the Earned Income Tax Credit. This is talked about quite openly by their advocates. Moreover, in its publications the IRS is signaling that this is a problem. One of three bullet points at the top of Form W-7 used to apply for an ITIN reads: "Receipt of an ITIN does not make you eligible to claim the earned income credit (EIC)."5



  35. 135

    Further, a section describing the Earned Income Tax Credit on the IRS web site lists six rules that must be followed. "Rule 1. You Must Have a Valid Social Security Number (SSN). . .You cannot get the EIC if, instead of an SSN, you (or your spouse if filing a joint return) have an individual taxpayer identification number (ITIN). ITINs are issued by the Internal Revenue Service to noncitizens who cannot get an SSN."6

    It is an unfortunate fact of life that U.S. citizens routinely claim tax deductions and credits to which they are not entitled. It is a cat and mouse game that presumably the IRS wins more often than not. However, there was language in the Inspector General�s 1999 report implying that both "revenue protection issues" and "operational problems during the implementation" period resulted in the ITIN being vulnerable to fraud. It is possible that the IRS system was programmed in a way that makes it very difficult to prevent payment of the Earned Income Credit if a resident alien unauthorized to work in the United States claims it.



  36. 136

    IRS shields illegals from INS. This same audit report said that issuing ITINs to illegal aliens may take on greater significance if the IRS were to come under the scrutiny of Congress. "Illegal alien presence in the United States is a congressional concern which is addressed by legislation in the Welfare Reform Act and the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996."7

    The Inspector General�s audit also pointed out that the IRS has a policy of shielding illegal immigrants from exposure to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), which appears to be in contravention of the express wishes of Congress. "The IRS provides disclosure protection to illegal alien applicants. The Congress has clearly stated how the federal government is to communicate between agencies concerning illegal aliens. The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 . . . states that information concerning illegal alien status should be provided to the INS notwithstanding any other law." Subsequent exposition revealed that IRS management believed its own regulations guaranteed the confidentiality of tax return information and did not intend to share any returns with the INS.8



  37. 137

    If that is still the position of the IRS, it is even more untenable today. The USA Patriot Act of 2001, passed overwhelmingly by Congress in response to the terrorist attacks on America, explicitly calls for greater information sharing among government agencies, law enforcement and the intelligence community.9

    It is not clear if the IRS regulations regarding confidentiality relate specifically to divulging tax information, such as income, number of dependents, etc., or if they also forbid the IRS from sharing even the taxpayer�s name and identification number with another government agency.



  38. 138

    It also is unclear if copies (redacted or not) of the Inspector General�s 1999 report were shared with Congressional committees responsible for oversight of the IRS. The report was addressed to the IRS Commissioner and noted that copies also were being sent to IRS managers affected by the report�s recommendations. This distribution approach differs from that followed by the Inspector General for the Social Security Administration, who also addresses his reports to the Commissioner while simultaneously distributing copies to a long list of members of Congress whose committees presumably have oversight over SSA.



  39. 139

    IRS ignores fraudulent use of SSNs. Illegal aliens have been warned by advocates not to use the ITIN when applying for employment, as it would expose their illegal status. All publications from both the IRS and the SSA say that an individual can have either an ITIN or an SSN, but not both. But since employees suffer no penalty for using fraudulent SSNs, they continue to do so. Similarly, since employers benefiting from cheap labor also suffer no penalty, they continue to hire illegal aliens without checking the validity of their SSNs. Once someone is hired, employers begin to withhold taxes.

    It is believed that far more ITINs have been issued than annual tax returns filed and that illegal residents who file returns do so to claim refunds. If so, presumably they use the ITIN provided by the IRS as their identifier on the 1040 Form, attaching the W-2 form provided by their employer. The catch is that their fraudulently obtained SSNs appear on the W-2 forms. Illegal aliens can obtain a SSN in a variety of ways. They can make up a number, steal or borrow someone else�s, buy a counterfeit Social Security card, or obtain a valid Social Security card fraudulently.10 What is abundantly clear is that they are not entitled to it.



  40. 140

    It is not clear if the IRS regulations regarding confidentiality relate specifically to divulging tax information, such as income, number of dependents, etc., or if they also forbid the IRS from sharing even the taxpayer�s name and identification number with another government agency.

    It also is unclear if copies (redacted or not) of the Inspector General�s 1999 report were shared with Congressional committees responsible for oversight of the IRS. The report was addressed to the IRS Commissioner and noted that copies also were being sent to IRS managers affected by the report�s recommendations. This distribution approach differs from that followed by the Inspector General for the Social Security Administration, who also addresses his reports to the Commissioner while simultaneously distributing copies to a long list of members of Congress whose committees presumably have oversight over SSA



  41. 141

    Knowing that the ITIN would not be necessary if the SSN were legitimate, apparently the IRS has been processing the returns anyway � ignoring this clear violation of its own rules. It could not be determined if there is a penalty attached to using both numbers simultaneously or if the IRS notifies the SSA about the possibility of a fraudulently obtained SSN. If the IRS does not do so, it would appear that the agency is undermining the integrity of Social Security numbers and U.S. immigration law and could be endangering homeland security.



  42. 142

    "For Tax Purposes Only"?
    One of three bullet points in the "Before you begin" section on the W-7 form to apply for an ITIN is the following message: "This number is for tax purposes only." That seems fairly straightforward. Yet, it is clear that advocates for illegal immigrants are aggressively pushing use of the ITIN as identification for many other purposes. The website of the National Employment Law Project (NELP), contains a section titled "How Can the ITIN be Used to Show Identity?": "There has been growing interest among immigrants and their advocates in using the ITIN as an alternative to the SSN. Indeed, many immigrant groups are successfully advocating for the use of identity documents other than a SSN in order to obtain drivers� licenses and consumer benefits." NELP goes into extensive detail explaining how illegal immigrants can get around using Social Security numbers.11

    Numerous newspaper articles describe how the ITIN is being used to open banking accounts and, in some states, obtain driver�s licenses.12, 13, 14



  43. 143

    Numerous newspaper articles describe how the ITIN is being used to open banking accounts and, in some states, obtain driver�s licenses.12, 13, 14

    The most astonishing example is a news release from Fifth Third Bank, headquartered in Ohio. Announcing an initiative to better serve the unique needs of the Hispanic community, Bradlee F. Stamper, President and Chief Executive Officer proudly boasts: "Our first step � and it�s a crucial one � is to start accepting new means of ID for persons otherwise shut out of the U.S. banking system. Starting now, Fifth Third will honor the Matricula Consular Card issued by the Government of Mexico and the Internal Revenue Service�s Taxpayer Identification Number as legal identification for immigrants who lack proper identification to open savings and checking accounts."15



  44. 144

    Matricula consular. Most media stories link the ITIN to the burgeoning use of the matricula consular, a photo ID being issued by the Mexican government to its citizens living illegally in the United States. The Mexican government has been lobbying state and local governments as well as banks to accept the matricula as official identification. But banks need an official U.S. tax number in order to open an interest-bearing account and, by definition, illegal aliens are not legally entitled to a Social Security number. So the Mexican government is pushing the ITIN as an acceptable alternative and, apparently, the IRS has raised no objection.

    Other than noting on its own publications that the ITIN is "for tax purposes only," the IRS seemingly has made no effort to contact banks or their regulators or state motor vehicle departments to let them know that the ITIN is not being authenticated in a way that makes it safe as identification. This omission endangers homeland security.



  45. 145

    No Risk for Illegals
    Media stories and immigrant advocates contend that the IRS has embarked on an aggressive marketing effort to achieve widespread distribution of the ITIN within illegal immigrant communities.16

    The Chicago Tribune reported on April 15, 2002, that the "IRS issued more than one million tax IDs last year, up 20 percent from 2000. The agency has issued 4.9 million IDs since it adopted the policy in 1996. [NOTE: As of October 2002, the IRS had issued over 5.5 million ITINs.] Officials presume that most have been issued to illegal aliens, although other people use the IDs as well, such as foreign businessmen working in the United States on short-term projects or foreign relatives still awaiting Social Security numbers. . . .This year, the Chicago IRS office and volunteers have issued thousands of ID numbers through workshops and office visits. Almost 300 immigrants, mainly from Mexico but also from the Middle East and Eastern Europe, pack a typical workshop. The agency is also increasing the number of tax preparers and banks authorized to process ID applications."17



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    Departure from traditional role. This activism seems a strange departure from the IRS�s traditional passive role of receiver and processor of income tax returns. It is one thing for the IRS to interpret its regulations in a way that results in issuing ITINs to illegal aliens. But it is quite another matter to seek them out and cater to them, thereby making a mockery of U.S. immigration laws. It raises the question as to who authorized this policy and at what level it was approved.

    The IRS has designated "acceptance agents" who are authorized to assist applicants in obtaining ITINs. IRS�s website describes acceptance agencies as entities, such as colleges, financial institutions, accounting firms, etc. The "etc." is important because it is believed that some acceptance agents are touting the fact that the IRS will not share information with the INS.

    This development was anticipated in the 1999 Inspector General�s ITIN audit report, which recommended that: "The IRS needs to include Privacy Act notification on the Form W-7 application form. The Privacy Act notification provides the warning that information can be provided to the Department of Justice within the parameters set by IRC 6103." IRS�s management response to this recommendation was clear cut and affirmative. "A Privacy Act Notice will be added to Form W-7."18 The estimated implementation date was August 31, 1999. As of September 2002, there was no Privacy Act notice on Form W-7.



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    The Chicago Tribune reported: "Despite growth in the tax IDs, experts say many immigrants will get the IDs only after assurances that immigration authorities will not be involved. . . . 'They think they will get deported,' said Salvador Gonzalez, director of the Midwest Tax Clinic, a Chicago non-profit agency that helps immigrants obtain the IDs. �But now people are losing their fear, and I am very, very happy about this.'"19

    Groups that advise advocacy organizations on legal issues also convey the same message, although more carefully couched. In a paragraph titled "What are the risks in applying for and using the ITIN?" the National Employment Law Project gives the following advice: "It is not in the IRS�s tax collection interest to disclose information to the INS. Thus far, advocates have not learned of any specific situations where the IRS has shared information with the INS. However, there is no guarantee that IRS or a state agency would not share this information with the INS."20



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    Delegating Authority to Third Parties
    The Inspector General�s report also warned that the IRS had put itself into a bind by permitting acceptance agents to function in a dual role, acting on the IRS�s behalf as well as the illegal immigrant�s. It said that the implementation of the acceptance agents program had gone beyond its regulatory purpose and their role in facilitating the ITIN application process should be re-examined.21 The current IRS application procedures for becoming an acceptance agent indicate there are two categories � acceptance agents and certifying acceptance agents.

    The regulations say: "The role of an acceptance agent is to facilitate the application process and issuance of TINs to alien individuals and foreign persons. An acceptance agent performs this duty by forwarding the completed Form W-7 (together with required documentary evidence) to the IRS."22



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    This contrasts with the significant authority delegated to a "certifying acceptance agent." "A certifying acceptance agent is a person that is authorized under the agreement with the IRS to submit a Form W-7 to the IRS on behalf of an applicant, without having to furnish supporting documentary evidence. Instead, when submitting a Form W-7 to the IRS, a certifying acceptance agent certifies to the IRS that it has reviewed the appropriate documentation evidencing the ITIN applicant�s identity and alien status, and that it is maintaining a record of such documentation."23 This situation seems somewhat akin to our embassy in Saudi Arabia delegating responsibility for visa interviews and document review to local travel agencies � a much-decried practice that has since been discontinued.

    Higher stakes. Since the events of 9/11, the Social Security Administration has limited the purposes for which it will issue an SSN and has built more safeguards into authenticating the documents presented to obtain one. Over at the IRS, however, very little public information exists as to how carefully the agency or its acceptance agents authenticate the documents presented to obtain an ITIN. Perhaps they do not feel it is necessary to do so, because the IRS knowingly gives them to illegal aliens.



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    But the attacks of September 11th, coupled with evidence that Taxpayer Identification Numbers are being used as IDs to obtain driver�s licenses and open bank accounts, raise the stakes considerably. Issues relating to benefit fraud pale beside those surrounding homeland security. It is not known if ITINs are easily available to citizens of countries that harbor terrorists or to resident aliens appearing on the FBI�s criminal database or to the more than 300,000 aliens who absconded after being served with deportation notices.

    Other agencies that provide ID documents, specifically the INS and SSA, have been operating in the glare of Congressional hearings to assure those documents are available only to citizens and legal aliens. It is difficult to understand why the IRS, the only agency that is knowingly offering an official government ID to illegal aliens, has escaped scrutiny.



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    Amnesty for Illegals Who "Pay Taxes"?
    Advocates contend that illegal immigrants work hard in jobs Americans will not take, pay taxes, contribute to society, and thus should be able to earn their way to legal status. This concept, euphemistically called "earned regularization," would create opportunities for illegal aliens to receive lawful permanent resident status by earning "credits" in a number of ways, including by paying taxes.

    The withholding of taxes is involuntary. Federal, state, and local income taxes and Social Security taxes are withheld from paychecks by employers. Workers have no say in the matter. But taxes withheld are not necessarily taxes paid. The United States has a progressive income tax that applies very low tax rates to low-income households. In fact, millions of households pay no federal tax at all. It is believed that the vast majority of illegal residents who file a tax return using an ITIN get full or partial tax refunds because of the low level of their earnings. Indeed, some erroneously receive the Earned Income Credit, intended to supplement the income of the working poor. Thus, ironically, by issuing ITINs the IRS may actually be reducing the tax revenue received from illegal aliens.



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    Providing an amnesty of some sort to illegal aliens is opposed by a majority of Americans.24 There has been little support to do so in the current session of Congress. However, the concept is still being pushed by illegal immigrant advocates, by the Mexican government and by elected officials eager for political support from the large Hispanic community living in the United States.

    The principal argument these advocates make on behalf of an amnesty is that illegal aliens pay taxes. It is true that taxes are withheld for many illegal aliens, but it is involuntary. Census data show that a high percentage of Hispanics earn very low wages. If illegal aliens were to be "regularized" and authorized to work in the United States, it is highly likely that they would pay little or no income tax. The IRS has important data relating to how many illegal aliens have been issued ITINs, how many have filed tax returns, and the net amount of tax that was paid after exemptions, credits, and refunds. This aggregated information needs to be made available to the public, so that if Congress ever debates the merits of another amnesty for illegal aliens, it can do so based on facts, not platitudes.



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    IRS Blind to Risks
    It appears that in 1996 the IRS decided to treat illegals as "resident aliens" based on their "substantial presence" in the U.S. That decision made illegal aliens eligible for ITINs. Presumably the IRS�s goal was to maximize tax revenues, and it assumed � mistakenly � that the ITIN would be used for tax purposes only. Due to start-up operational problems and subsequent poor administration of the ITIN program, the IRS sustained self-inflicted wounds related to benefit fraud. But, inexplicably, the IRS seems not to have altered its ITIN policies in any meaningful way.

    There are many ITIN-related problems that need to be addressed by IRS management and by the Congressional committees with oversight of tax and immigration matters. By far the most urgent issue relates to homeland security. It could be fixed overnight. It is essential that the use of ITINs be strictly limited to tax purposes only. The IRS, or perhaps the Treasury Department of which it is a part, should immediately issue a directive to that effect and widely disseminate it to other federal agencies, state and local governments and their associations, the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, financial institutions� regulators and trade associations, and any other entities that are known to be accepting the ITIN as a form of identification.



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    September 11 taught us just how important it is to be able to distinguish American citizens and legal foreign residents and visitors from those who have no legal right to be in our country. No security measure is foolproof, but safer is safer. The American people have a right to expect that their government is systematically shutting down any impediments that threaten the integrity of our identity documents.



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    Don’t like ARIZONA’S new immigration law? Fine. We’ll adopt Mexico’s immigration policies instead, OK?

    Let’s take a look at Mexico’s immigration policy. For instance, did you know that:

    Mexico deports more illegal aliens that the U.S. annually
    Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico
    Or that immigrants must –

    Have the means to sustain themselves economically;
    Not be burdens on society;
    Be of economic and social benefit to society;
    Be of good character and have no criminal records; and
    Contribute to the general well being of the nation.
    Mexico’s immigration policies also ensure that –

    Authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
    Foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
    Foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
    Foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
    Foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
    Those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.”



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    Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

    Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
    Immigration officials must ‘ensure’ that ‘immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance’ and for their dependents. (Article 34)
    Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets ‘the equilibrium of the national demographics,’ when foreigners are deemed detrimental to ‘economic or national interests,’ when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when ‘they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.’ (Article 37)
    The Secretary of Governance may ‘suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.’ (Article 38)
    Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:



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    Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
    A National Population Registry keeps track of ‘every single individual who comprises the population of the country,’ and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
    A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).
    Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
    Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
    Foreigners who sign government documents ‘with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses’ are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
    Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
    Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
    Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)



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    How dare Mexico reprimand the United States for our treatment of illegal aliens? Copy this blog and send it to your Congressman, your Senators and your friends who think things like national sovereignty, secure borders, and protecting the lives and property of Americans is not the right thing to do in these politically correct, multicultural times.



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    The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens' arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.
    – Ready to show your papers? Mexico's National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens' identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.



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    Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing GOP Gov. Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators "Smash the State," and holding signs that proclaimed "No human is illegal" and "We have rights."

    But under the Mexican constitution, such political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot "in any way participate in the political affairs of the country." In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).



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    As for abuse, the Mexican government is notorious for its abuse of Central American illegal aliens who attempt to violate Mexico's southern border. The Red Cross has protested rampant Mexican police corruption, intimidation and bribery schemes targeting illegal aliens there for years. Mexico didn't respond by granting mass amnesty to illegal aliens, as it is demanding that we do. It clamped down on its borders even further. In late 2008, the Mexican government launched an aggressive deportation plan to curtain illegal Cuban immigration and human trafficking through Cancun.



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    [re=5242102]Re: amanda



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    ANCHOR BABIES !!!!

    Americans must ask themselves if these are the people they want to reward with citizenship while others have waited in line to be here legally. Americans are learning that the 14th Amendment was not intended to give special benefits to illegal mothers and their birthright citizen babies, this amendment was intended for the children of African slaves. Americans are becoming outraged that their leadership has allowed this amendment to be used as a magnet for illegal immigration.



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    Re: You Know Like Totally – i was going to reply to 2 post for me, but i really don't care what the other person has to say, why even notice a post from an ignorant person like me, who has lousy grammar. but anywho just so u know, in case u didn't, alot of kids werre brought by the parents when they were really young, so they really had no say. as i said, there is alot on both sides that we don't understand, & we're being to judgmental. unfortunatelly u've all set ur law to punish them all, no matter the circumstance. & mrs.carter27, i do also understand ur point. every1 says they should become legal, yeah, ahaa!! they can't no matter how hard they try they can't. If it were only that they wouldn't be illegal, & we wouldn't have so many issues with them.



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    Re: sweetv23 – THen you go clean toliets and see how long you last and even if you appreciate the job.



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    WTF Perez! Arizona has to put this law on the table because there is such a high incidence of drug related crimes and murders, committed by illegal aliens. So if you identify the problem, why would you want to sugar coat it to get resolution. If you had invaders threatening your security, why would you want to allow them in your back yard? We have to wait and get papers to go into another country and carry them with us, why wouldn't we expect the same!! Fucking liberals… move to Arizona and really live and pay for the crime and drug problems. Better yet, if you think so highly of these people, I would be happy to help you all pitch a bunch of tents down on the border for you so you can meet all of them on their way into the US. Really, bring your candy asses here.



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    Perez you prove how uneducated you are about this law! People, do not comment about this if you don't fully understand it. Arizona is trying to protect itself, there are wars going on at the border, with AZ officers being killed, and a massive drug problem. Not to mention they are here ILLEGALLY. Since when did the US start supporting law breaking? Instead of stopping people from coming here illegally, you want us to say Hey c'mon in and let us feed you and give you jobs and free healthcare, screw the people who are here LEGALLY struggling in this economy!

    IGNORANCE!



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    Re: Gary78 – I read every single one of ur posts, & u r right. that's the way things work in mexico. it's all true.



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    blatant inequality? you are fucked in the head.. This law affects people here illegally.. they are not citizens of the US… which means they are not protected under our constitution.. THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW…

    shut up until you understand what you talking about pigface..

    good for AZ wish my state would pass something similar



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    Brewer should have been busy stopping businesses from hiring illegal immigrants-
    Not stopping Latino citizens to check their papers!
    It is a racist law and violates the 4th amendment!
    Republican party of NO will get a FUCK NO on the appeal!



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    Mexicans give all other latinos/hispanics a BAD NAME!!! and everyone hates illegals they just don't say it! live in PHX and im all about this law! If they were to make citizens VOTE for this 100% it would win!



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    I'm glad to see that most americans agree with this law..We are hurting in this country..we can't take care of everyone. We should take care of our own first many americans are struggling to feed their families and can't provide health care for their families..and if we go to the doctor we get huge bills sent in the mail and end up in debt for the rest of out lives..Regarless what race they are illegals are ILLEGAL Someone said noone in AZ is for this law..thats a lie I have family that lives there and they say otherwise. I wish people would stop using the race card..it just makes racial hate even worse by using it at scapegoat for everything. Makes people hate more. Thats just my opinon.



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    That's funny… "blatant inequality"… on a human level, yes we are all human that's fantastic, on a citizen of the US level we are NOT all equal. You see, we have citizens and then we have not-citizens and that, my friend, is most certainly not equal in the eyes of the US. I'm sorry, evidently Perez has a plan to fix this shithole of a situation that apparently all of us - and including the government - was not aware of! So I am sitting here waiting in suspense, what could it be?!?!?!? I guess I am one sorry-ass Mexican but really, come on now people.



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    Re: abygal – Thank you. Perez you have no idea what you are talking about! Stick to hollywood gossip and stay away from politics. I would also like to add that if you are an illegal you don't have rights, rights are for citizens.



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    Meanwhile, Mexican consular offices in the United States have coordinated with left-wing social justice groups and the Catholic Church leadership to demand a moratorium on all deportations and a freeze on all employment raids across America.



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    Mario,
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    Once again you reveal your complete IGNORANCE.
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    Where in the hell does your mind believe that ILLEGAL imigrants being sent back to their country is "inequality"???????
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    Did you know the Arizona Law mirrors the FEDERAL Law?
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    Since the Federal Goverment doesn't want to enforce their laws Arizona decided to take matters into their own hands you ignorant fool.



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    Blah blah blah blah blah so much hate. You guys act like it's only the people from Mexico coming in here illegally. We are going backwards. So if you are not blond, blue eyes and fair skin with no kinky hair you will be good. Is that how it is??? Let's deal with the real crimes that are going around.



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    I love Canada!



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    Perez answer me this. Why is it that if you cross the border in Korea you get 14 years hard labor. If you cross the border into Iraq you get killed. But if you cross the border into America you get free healthcare, free housing, free food and you to work under the table and not pay taxes on the money you earn. All you celebrities are crying about the inequality of it but you don't see that this country is trillions of dollars in debt and a lot of that is due to the fact that we AMERICAN'S that work hard for out money are paying for these illegals to have all the freedoms that comes with living here at no cost to them. Perez why don't you and all your little celebrity friends who are boo hoo crying about this, pack your things up and go live in Arizona for a bit. Go see what all these border jumpers are doing. In no less than 10 years, American's will be the minority in America. That is pathetic. Sometimes I wish you celebrites would just shut your mouths for once. I don't work my ass off to put shelter over our heads and clothes on our back and food on our tables to be paying for a bunch of illegals get everything and they don't have to pay for it. I can't even afford insurance for myself, but some Mexican that illegally jumped our border can come her and get free healthcare. SO NOT RIGHT!!!



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    And don't get me started with Sanctuary Cities. If we didn't have those sanctuary cities the Bologna family would still be alive. The illegal alien that killed them had been arrested many times but San Fracisco had saved him from being deported and then he goes and kills a father and his 2 sons. If we didn't have sanctuary cities, he would have been deported a long time ago and none of this would have happened. Where is the justice in that?
    Heaven forbid we fight against illegals coming into our country. The government is so worried we might offend others. They care more about protecting illegals than they do about their own citizens. It all makes me sick and it makes me sick Perez that you don't fight harder for the AMERICANS.



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    I highly doubt that you commenters on Perezhilton have been actually affected and had a "tough" life since the fall on the economy and yet still have enough money for internet acce$$. Please, instead of complaining on Perezhilton.com I suggest you e-mail your state and explain to them how you are SO broke that you barely could afford food. *rolls eyes*



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    Re: supersongbird – Hey there!!!:-) Where's Aussie????

    @#170-I agree!!!Exactly people are so quick to point fingers on the illegal people when they should be blaming the companies that hire them in the first place.
    The same with the Obama haters, many blame Obama for the U.S. downfall when they refuse to see where the downfall began (Bush).



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    Perez, totally agree with you, and to all you idiots leaving racist and ignorant comments you need to read up on the history of this country "made a world leader by immigrants" all you bunch of douches are immigrants, in addition if you actually got your facts straight by reading the laws that directly involve the services offered by each state to its citizens you would know that immigrants or illegals as many of you prefer to call them don't qualify for any government services, also immigrants don't take jobs from anyone they do the jobs that lazy American's wouldn't dream of getting their hand dirty with, in addition read about the financial impact on our economy getting rid of all illegal immigrants would have, there a billions of dollars that illegal immigrants contribute to this beautiful country and don't claim even a 1/3 of them because of their immigration status….Why not pick up a newspaper you bunch of ingrates and read it for a change no just look at the comics or call your local community newspaper "news" look around stop to understand the world and the financial hardships we are facing as a nation and the environmental impacts we are having on the planet, worry more about world hunger, multiple oil spills in our waters and please by all means become informed citizens of the US and STOP SPEWING HATE…



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    I'm curious, How much does a legal citizen (who recieves welfare)pay in taxes each year with their hard earned money???



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    Re: supersongbird – Hey there! I don't know if you are in but I'll check back in tomorrow. TTYL!!!

  86. tx2fl says – reply to this


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    What is wrong with people like you?!
    Ignorant people like you keep turning this into a race issue when it has NOTHING to do with race at all. There is nothing wrong with immigrants coming into the United States as long as they do so LEGALLY, what is so hard for everyone to understand? ONLY here is it such a big issue, anywhere else in the world you MUST present legal documentation, even in Mexico. It's okay to keep screaming how unfair it is to impose a law to illegal immigrants to God forbid, follow the law of the land like everyone else here must, but how in the world is it fair to those who have came here legally and those still waiting for their legal paperwork to go through? HOW is it fair to them? Wake up!



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    YOU HAVE TO LOVE HOW ALL THESE REPUBLICAN ARE SO EAGER TO SHIT ON THE CONSTITUTION TO GET WHAT THEY WANT!
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    The judge made the right decision!
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    RACIAL PROFILING IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
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    In U.S. v. Montero-Camargo (208 F.3d 1122, 9th Cir. 2000), the court adopted the broad definition, declaring that race could not be used as a factor, even when other factors are present, to take a law enforcement action.
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    U.S. Constitution requires that all citizens be treated equally under the law. As such, it is unconstitutional for a representative of the government to make decisions based on race, as upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in Batson v. Kentucky and several other cases.
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    The AZ bill required or permited public officials to investigate and determine individual's immigration status. These provisions regulate immigration and are impermissible intrusions on Congress' exclusive constitutional powers.
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    The Arizona law would have allow local enforcement authorities to arrest those suspected of being in violation of the law without a warrant. But also without a formal agreement with federal authorities, states are prohibited from enforcing civil violations of immigration law.
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    States can NOT prosecute people for Federal crimes if it is as Brewer said just the same as the federal law THEN IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
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    OBAMA NOW HAS TO STEP UP AND PASS COMPRESSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.
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    OR IF THE CONGRESS WONT, HE NEEDS TO GRANT AMNESTY (LIKE REGAN DID) TO ALL THOSE ALREADY IN AMERICA AND SEND THE NATIONAL GUARD TO THE BORDER!
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    ARIZONA'S GOVERNOR BREWER AND THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY WERE LAGGING 20-25% BEHIND THE DEMOCRATS IN THE POLLS… THEY PAST THIS LAW AND NOW THEY ARE LEADING BY UP TO 40% IN SOME… IT IS A DIRTY ACT OF POLITICS NOTHING MORE!
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    THE WORST PART ABOUT THIS FOR ARIZONA IS BY BREWER LYING ABOUT THE CRIME RATE WHICH REALLY HAS DOPED EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE ADDED AZ TO THEIR NO GO LISTS AND NO INVESTMENT LISTS, SEVEN NATIONS HAVE PUT IT ON THEIR NON INSURANCE ZONES. AZ ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE FUCKED FOR A LONG TIME THANKS TO BREWER!
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    If you really believed in the rule of law you may want to re read this:
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    Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution
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    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.



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    I LOVE MY HISPANIC AND LATINO BROTHERS AND SISTERS
    AND I REALLY DON'T CARE HOW THEY GOT TO THE STATES.
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    Soy blanco y amar a mis hermanos hispanos y latinos Y HERMANAS
    Y yo realmente no les importa cómo llegaron a Estados Unidos.
    TORNILLO RACISTA REPUBLICANOS
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    I'm against racial profiling. I'm a US Citizen and if it wasnt for an immigrant that decided to come to this country once upon a time I wouldn't be here today in this wonderful country I call home, and i'm not even talking about my parents! They are both US Citizens! to those that are insensitive about this issue maybe you should look into your family tree and you'll find out that you also come from an Immigrant! you should be THANKFUL that they made it easy for YOU!



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    I can't possibly be the only one who supports this law. Americans are losing money because we are paying for the needs of people who can't even be bothered to fill out the paperwork to come here LEGALLY. We are out millions of dollars because a bunch of people are mooching off of us, not paying taxes. Something needs to be done. Obviously none of our other methods have worked, so we have to take drastic action. The fact is, yes, it is racial profiling. BUT the majority of our illegal immigrants come from Mexico - that's just fact. If we want to stop illegal immigration, we have to start at the source, and that would be Mexico. How is asking them to carry their papers any different than asking us to carry our driver's licenses around? It's a responsibility that needs to be taken care of.



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    BREWER LIES google for yourself : Crime is down in Arizona
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    85% of illegal immigrants work and pay taxes. -IRS
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    The Internal Revenue Service issues an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have Federal tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code. Federal tax law prohibits the IRS from sharing data with other government agencies including the INS
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    "ANCHOR BABIES" are US citizens with all the same rights and responsibilities as your child/children.
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    I think the 14th Amendment is pretty fuck'en clear:
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    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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    NOT MUCH ROOM FOR DOUBT OF ITS INTENT THERE



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    FACT: Illegals contribute more than they take.
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    The National Research Council study concludes: Illegal immigrants contribute as much as $10 billion to the U.S. economy each year.
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    Hispanic-owned businesses generated about $222 billion in revenue.
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    In 2009, a study by the Cato Institute, a free market think tank, found that legalization of low-skilled illegal resident workers in the US would result in a net increase in US GDP of $180 billion over ten years
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    As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.
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    While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus.
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    The CBO report found if all illegal immigrants where made legal:
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    The analysis found that over the next decade, newly legalized immigrants and guest workers would generate $48 billion in additional tax and Social Security revenues, while using about $23 billion worth of tax credits and social services. Thus, the newly legal immigrant population would contribute a net of about $25 billion over the decade, the report said.



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    DIRECT AFFECTS OF JUST THE THREAT OF THIS BULLSHIT ARIZONA LAW REPORTED TODAY IN THE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD:
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    Workers in Arizona have been told to expect Lay offs!
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    Due to the rush to leave Arizona by thousands of Undocumented Immigrants companies across Arizona, raging from freight companies, warehouses to grocery stores are warning of job losses to come due the rapid decline in population…… The decline is expected to have a knock on affect to the whole Arizonan economy…….
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    Brewer has fucked Arizona!
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    Job-losses… property values will drop…. poor Arizona.
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    America was founded and know world wide for this belief, the inscription on the statue of liberty:
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    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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    TO THIS ARIZONA SAYS FUCK OFF
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    Esta perra Brewer y todos estos hijos de puta racistas deben ser abofeteado por sus madres.
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    Mudo pinchazos culo!
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    Que se jodan!
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    Boo on Arizona? Not all of Arizona is for this law. Many of us think it's disgusting. Boo on everyone for this law.



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    its not inequality - THEY ARE IN AMERICA ILLEGALLY!



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    I support the Arizona laws. Someones got to hold people accountable. So what if it's racially profiling? Just check everyone. I wouldn't mind being checked because I have nothing to hide.

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