White House Attempts To Stop Judge From Issuing An Injunction To Ban DADT!

So disappointing - and INFURIATING!
Earlier this month, following a non-jury trial that lasted three weeks, US District Court Judge Virginia Phillips ruled that Don't Ask, Don't Tell was indeed unconstitutional. She could possibly be issuing an injunction today that would ban the policy - but the White House is now attempting to STOP it!
WTF?
The White House apparently feels that the aforementioned injunction challenges Congress, and Press Secretary Robert Gibbs explains in a statement:
"This filing in no way diminishes the president's firm commitment to achieve a legislative repeal of DADT – indeed, it clearly shows why Congress must act to end this misguided policy."
Phillips' injunction stems from a lawsuit filed by the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay rights organization hoping for a nationwide ban, and are obviously very disappointed with the White House's current stance.
Their attorney, Dan Woods, says:
"It's sad and disappointing that the administration would file such a document days after it urged Congress to repeal 'don't ask, don't tell."
Agreed! We have the opportunity to BAN this foolish policy for once and all, right now, and now they're trying to throw it back into the shark tank for more debate?!
Unbelievable!
This is truly a sad day for the Obama administration. They should all be absolutely ashamed of themselves, after the tireless efforts so many have made to get the same HUMAN RIGHTS as everyone else.
Thoughts??
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American's don't have any rights anymore…
Perez, you obviously don't understand the legal system. What this judge is doing is unconstitutional and she knows it. She doesn't have the authority to overrule DADT. If she does it, she surely will set your cause back decades and galvanize Republicans. I just don't know why the gay-rights movement has such a myopic outlook on their objectives … please take a look at the Thurgood Marshall playbook on obtaining civil rights: deliberate, thoughtful, patient, and within the bounds of the law!
I am as dedicated a gay rights advocate as anyone, but again, your coverage on these issues fails to look at the whole picture. I agree that it would AMAZING if the government count make a sweeping gesture like this and take DADT off the books, but the problem that Gibbs highlights here is legitimate. If you allow one judge to overrule Congress, we are setting an exceptionally dangerous precedent that can be turned back on us when a conservative issue like gun control comes to the table.
Perez, I live on a military base and we have had discussions about the DADT and to be honest, no one wants it gone. It's probably very infuriating to you but it is safe to say that 98% of us voted for the policy to stay. It's nothing against LGBT's but if lifting this ban makes our military uncomfortable why mess with it. Everyone is very quick to say we are bigots but honestly, we the soldiers and their families are the ones who suffer for you, you might not think we have it that bad, but think about us for a change, the deployments are horrible for our children, we have had friends that dont come back, why are you making life even harder. We know there are gays in the military, we are all friends but I also know that they dont like to discuss their sexuality with just anyone. We all live private lives, stop trying to out people who dont want to be outed. Wish you the very best.
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"This is truly a sad day for the Obama administration. They should all be absolutely ashamed of themselves, after the tireless efforts so many have made to get the same HUMAN RIGHTS as everyone else."
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American soldiers, sailors and airmen are not subject to the US Bill of Rights. They are subject to the GI Bill of Rights - and voluntarily surrendered their protection by the US Bill of Rights when they joined. It is an all volunteer military - they knew the rules (including DADT) before they WILLINGLY joined up.
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The military is not like civilian life. The fundamental difference is that members of the military are required to put the welfare of their UNIT and their MEN above their personal welfare. It is not an easy life, sacrificing many rights of civilians, but it is implicit if you want a military that can actually FIGHT and WIN.
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If you are a soldier and your sexuality (gay or straight) is more important to you than your men, you don't deserve to be in the military.
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OBAMA IS A LIAR!!! WHEN WILL YOU LEARN??? He bent the rules to cram his shitty health plan down our throats, if he really wanted DADT gone, he would find a way!
Perez, you clearly know very little about the DADT debate. The fact is, gay people are not the only people who are struggling in America today. What about the poor, illegal immigrants, our soldiers at war, our veterans. I know it feels like equality for gays is a long way away, but its not. The majority of the country agrees with the president that DADT sucks, but the President himself actually has very little power in the checks and balance system. We forget that because we all got used to Bush bullying his way into unpopular policy (and i bet none of you read your high school US government book). Obama is doing something a little different, its called bi-partisanship. Obama could do what Bush did and site executive power to allow gays to serve openly, but if Obama doesn't get re-elected or when his 8 years are up, the new President and the new congress can completely repeal the law and force gay soldiers back into the closet. However, if Obama can get a majority in congress to agree and sign legislation then gays will be able to serve openly in the military forever, and no one will be able to take that away from them. But if we do what Perez seems to be suggesting, then gays will be able to serve openly just until another asshole conservative comes along and takes it away. So how about u quit whining and call your congressmen and women and force them to make the right choice.. and quit blaming the president. its getting old.
obama has done nothing for our country except ruin it more
(I am a law student so I do kind of know what I am talking about) The military by its very nature is not required to abide by the constitution the same way that civilians do. It is not that Americans don't have rights, it is that people in the military necessarily have LESS rights. (It sucks I know). This was a legislation regarding the military so its constitutionality will likely not be grounds for repeal in the courts. It just doesn't work that way. The legislature needs to change it because it is their turf and because it regards the military, which is treated differently from a legal standpoint.
I must say I expected much more from Obama and his administration.
DADT is insane, nuff said!
i wouldnt exactly call being able to join the army so you can kill people a human right to be honest. but its ridiculous that a soldier cant mention the person they love without being thrown out. imagine being in a foreign country, away from the person you love and not being able to talk about it, being forced to bottle it up inside while you are trying to protect not only civilians but your fellow soldiers. the mental pressure of it all must be horrible
Re: ba-buttons – That is exactly the way we think, who ever you are, whatever you do, you are an American and are free to make your own choices but the military is not the place, Did you know that just last week instead of training they had us, (all bases, sorry cant say where we are located but can only say we are overseas) attend "discussion panels" so we could speak our mind and my only thought was, why are we here when we have soo many other more important thing to do! and after we all spoke they simply said, this is happening whether you like it or not, Dont ask Dont tell will be lifted. Honest to God, they gave us no choice and we are in the military, some people were pissed to say the least because we are the ones endangering our lives and we still get no choice, so keep screaming Perez, you and Lady Gaga and everyone else who thinks life is so unfair or you. I bet you have no idea what we actually go thru in a day, next time you are sitting in your living room super comfy, enjoying good food with your family, why dont you ask yourself, what are most soldiers at right now? what are they doing? what are they eating? WHERE ARE THEY SLEEPING?
every soldier who has commented on here in favor of DADT should take a good look at themselves. if you have a problem with the way the military is run, don't join. simple as that. you are fighting to defend our civil liberties. give me five reasons this is different from saying blacks, asians, latinos and women shouldn't be allowed in the military… there are none. if someone's sexuality makes you uncomfortable, that is your problem — not theirs.
It's not shameful Perez. I'm a liberal but if they wanted to get DADT struck down they shouldn't have put it in with 700 Billion dollars fro our troops along with an immigration bill…of course Republicans would vote against anything that supports immigrants!
gmoney0 — you are 100% correct. Perez has no idea what he is talking about. Obama wants to do this while abiding be the Constitution, and that is admirable.
Re: lizzlescrizzle123 – Look another moron talking about something they know nothing about. GAYS ARE allowed in the military, they ARE already IN the military. STFU dipshit. Learn something about what you're talking about before spouting off. You obviously have never been in the military, not probably have anyone you love in it either. Just another armchair dipshit trying to shove your own agenda down the throats of the people that will actually be affected by it without caring for the consequences.
HELLO…Wake up GLBT, the democrats lied to you. (Don't take it personally–they've lied to just about everyone they made promises to)
Democrat controlled Congress/Senate X 4YEARS
Democrat controlled White House X almost 2 YEARS
If they wanted DADT gone, they have had all the time & power to make it gone. Republicans don't have the votes. Hence why we are stuck with impending socialized medicine despite complete Republican disaproval.
YOUR MESSIAH LIED…SUCK IT UP LIKE THE REST OF US HAVE TO
Re: lizzlescrizzle123 – you obviously dont know what you're talking about. obama has done so many things that are unconstitutional. healthcare for one, i dont care if you agree with it or not, but its a fact it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to force people to pay for healthcare, and then penalize them if they dont? Look im all about gay rights and yeah dont ask dont tell is unfair, but to say obama wants to uphold the constitution when he proposes ludicrous legislation that doesnt abide by the constitution is crazy, maybe you should actually read then constitution before you start saying how someone is doing this to uphold it
it's going to take a black soldier to say what gaga's said.
Obama has done nothing for gays. Joe Biden said in the debate with Sarah Palin that Joe believes marriage is between a man and a woman. They used gays for votes.
Re: lizzlescrizzle123 – to lizz, I never said it makes me uncomfortable, truly, it doesn't. I heard alot of people say horrible things that I do not condone just as I heard alot of people give reasonable opinions. Still you should read what I wrote again and again until you finally understand that we dont want to discuss DADT not because we might be "uncomfortable" but because this is the military and we do serve our country (including you) and that is all we should be worried about. OUR COUNTRY, ourselves and our fellow soldiers. BTW, just in caxse you didnt understand my words, they did not give us an option, they said that dont ask dont tell is going down no matter what we think. Next time, think about who has right and who doesnt before you decide to give your opinion. And if LGBT are uncomfortable then they can leave just like they have, but guess what, to the gays currently in the military, their country and YOUR FREEDOM LIZZ are more important so they stay FOR YOU! They just like heterosexuals do not have the time to go chain themselves to the white house, we love our country more than anything and would never display ourselves and ashame our military like that.
Re: speak the truth – Thank you!!! Someone with common sense about what is REALLY going on here!
Re: speak the truth –
Well Perez you did vote for this man only because of his skin color so this is what you deserve. I love that everyone is figuring out he's just a fake like all other politicians haha LOVE IT!
Like I said before, the Democrats are in favor of DADT. They put it in place under Clinton and are doing everything they can to keep it in place. You can't believe what a politician says. If you want to know what's in his heart, look at what he does. Actions speak louder than words!
Re: lizzlescrizzle123 – Every Solider should take a look at themselves? Excuse me? I'm seriously outraged…SO if they do pass this, why don't YOU join? You won't. You'll be another white trash whore with 50 kids living off welfare. Guarantee it. They signed in knowing the damn policy, now they're trying changing it because of CIVILIANS, people who have noooooo (and I say this laughing from shock) no no no clue what Basic is like, what deployment is like, and what sacrifice really is. NO idea! IT IS THEIR CHOICE AND ONLY THEIRS, THEY LIVE AROUND IT, NOT YOU!!! THEY ARE SERVING OUT COUNTRY. You're just a useless fuckin fly probably, especially with that attitude.
Girl you're lucky you didn't say that in front of me, I'd rip you limp from limp for such disrespect and ignorance towards out soldiers, gay or straight! They know there are gays in the military. It's just WRONG for civilians like yourself to make it your damn job and priority to make RULES FOR THEM! You don't live that life, you have no idea. You have an easy life. Trust me, you do.
So go rot in hell if you really feel that a Solider, someone defending your loser ass, needs to take a double look at themselves. Keep your goddamn ignorant over-the-top liberal mouth shut next time. Specially about something YOU know nothing about.
Re: lizzlescrizzle123 – -
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The American military exists to DEFEND civil liberties, not to PRACTICE them.
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Militaries cannot function as democracies, they are dictatorships. The system of rank is the most obvious example of the INEQUALITY necessary to create an effective fighting force. Why don't people lobby the government to rid the military of the rank system like they do DADT? Because on that point the public knows it is the MILITARY that needs to make military decisions, not an uneducated and ill-informed public. Abolition of DADT is a cause celebre and for some reason that fogs civilian brains to the point that they actually think they know whats best for the military.
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The U.S. has a highly organized and capable military. It is an insult to all soldiers when slack-jawed civvies who have never served (and never will) start trying to dictate how they should do their job.
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DADT oppresses heteros as much as it does gays. It is an equitable policy that, in essence, states YOUR SEXUALITY IS NOT IMPORTANT, YOUR UNIT AND YOUR MEN ARE. Any serving soldier who speaks out against DADT is a disgrace to the uniform and an appalling example of self-centred selfishness.
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Re: Jenny2 – The dems have done more for the gay community then then reps you people hate and look down your noses at us.
Perez, don't you realize by jumping to all these stupid conclusions, when you have no idea what you are talking about, UNDERMINES the gay-rights cause? YOU ARE NOT HELPING GAY RIGHTS PEREZ! Obama wants DADT to be repealed–that doesn't mean he supports repealing DADT through the unconstitutional actions of a district court judge. District court judges cannot just go around throwing out laws made by elected legislative officials. If the case got to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court determined the law was unconstitutional, then it could be thrown out (but it is MUCH more likely for the law to be repealed through congress). … Again, Perez, you are making gay rights activists sound like a bunch of whiny, unintellectual morons. Stop misrepresenting gays by knowing what you are talking about before jumping to rash and baseless opinions.
Re: Fingerpunch – Tell me specifically what part of the constitution you think the Health Care Act violates. Just tell me. Because you probably haven't even read the constitution, based on how embarrassingly stupid your comment was.
Oh, the Log Cabin Republicans gay-activist people need to get a better attorney. How does that guy not realize that the injunction would be unconstitutional?
Re: mustbenargles – There sure are a lot of assumptions going on in that post, sweetheart. How ironic that you call a stranger that disagrees with you "trash" and yet you then go on to say that you'd rip her limb to limb. Stay classy, mustbenargles!!
bahahahahahahhaha
Unfortunately, your post isn't very shocking. It's not easy going through life with such a limited ability to critically think, is it, honey?? hahahahahhahaa
God Bless Amerrrrrica!
Re: mustbenargles – First of all, you'll rip her LIMB from LIMB. If you're going to spout off about your opinions and try to insult someone, learn some grammar and spelling. Secondly, yeah, lizzlescrizzle123 might be wrong with what she posted, but you saying things like, she'll be a whore with 50 kids is uncalled for. Talk about white trash.
FIrst I am not nor have I served in the military but I am a US citizen. The military is a part of the government and in democracy the people are the government. The opinion of the people matters whether the military likes it or not. IT'S CALLED ACCOUNTABILITY. Gay men and woman should be able to serve OPENLY in the military. Point blank. Many other nations such as Israel allow the LGBT community to serve and they have one of the strongest militaries in the world.
The argument that straight service men and woman don't have a choice in the matter and that it is unfair to "force" this change upon them makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Repealing DADT would only effect those of a homophobic persuasion and mindset, making them uncomfortable. The military doesn't force people of different ethnicities to hide their culture or heritage or never acknowledge their skin color to serve in the military so why should those in the LGBT community be treated any differently? Straight couples are able to have families on bases while those in the LGBT community are NOT even allowed to acknowledge their sexual orientation. We should not force our service men and women who risk their lives everyday to hide who they are and be miserable. And if it's that big of a deal for straight people to serve alongside their gay brothers and sisters then I would rather they not serve at all. May America be blessed.
Re: ~jersey~ – hahahah love your comment!!
I don't know what to feel about this?! I am behind Obama on so many things, this will just have to be one of the things we must disagree on. Obama, I understand why you decided to block the judge's injunction. Everyone's focus is now on The Election. But I hope Obama makes it up to me later.
Re: Gquality – Gay and lesbians CAN serve in the US military, Einstein. Not to mention, military personnel have different rights (GI bill of rights); the military is governed by its own law; etc. So no, the military isn't entirely under the control of the democratic law civilians vote for and are governed by. … Again, PLEASE know what you are talking about before opening your mouth. You discredit the entire gay rights movement when you represent it like a moron.
Re: Gquality – Also, the government of the US IS NOT "the people." The government of this country is THE CONSTITUTION, and what this judge wants to do is by-pass the constitution and do whatever she wants. IN A "DEMOCRACY" like ours (which is technically a republic), the laws are created by ELECTED OFFICIALS. You think a democracy is where any judge on her whim can throw any law out the window and do whatever she wants? THAT ISN'T DEMOCRACY, YOU FUCKINF RETARD! ARGG@#$R Stop embarrassing the pro-gay rights movement and graduate past the 8th grade! DADT has to be repealed by the legislature EXACTLY BECAUSE THIS IS A DEMOCRACY!
Did i just wake up to a an Oligarchy, what happened to Democracy.
Re: Gquality – Not to mention–THIS IS EXACTLY HOW OUR DEMOCRACY WORKS! A democracy is not a place where judges get to overrule laws whenever they feel like it. A democracy is a place where the laws are made by ELECTED LEGISLATORS. Unfortunately, that includes DADT. THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF THE US HAVE ELECTED FOR! THAT'S A DEMOCRACY! If you have a problem with it VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE! Go take 9th grade civics and stop embarrassing the entire gay-rights movement with your ignorance.
Re: Gquality – You know what is the real reason you wouldnt serve, because you would not be able to handle it. You have the guts to speak your truth here but do you have any idea what we have to go thru. Having feces thrown at you by Iraqis who hate Americans just because WE ARE Americans and still keep your cool cause if you dare do something about it, you would be violating human right and then after your shift you have to go directly to medical for your penicillin shots because of the feces. You have to work in over 100 degree heat and sleep in flea infested places. You have to train in that same heat with over 60 lbs on your back, you have to leave your family for at least a year at a time, you cant see your child take his first steps, you cant see your wife give birth, when you come home your kid cries cause he doesnt know who you are and your heart just breaks every time she runs away from you when you try to touch her little hand. Don't you dare talk about suffering. I am here, I serve and very very proudly. I love my country and those are not just words. It might be unfair to treat LGBT's like this but not in the military, we are here to serve not to explain who we like to have sex with. That is what you do not understand, Gays, Lesbians and Heterosexuals are here in the middle of hell to serve YOU! And you are trying to impose your will on us, who do you think you are?
I am a Law student and I understand the process this situation must follow. I understand that allowing a state to overrule Congress could be very harmful for the future. With that being said I am completely against DADT. I believe that every person has the freedom to live their lives in the manner they wish and not be forced by the government to live or act a certain way. I understand there are certain people out there who are uncomfortable with same sex couples. If you think about it, everyone has a characteristic that could potentially make someone else feel uncomfortable. If you're not being approached or forced into a same sex situation then what is the problem? It doesn't affect you in any way other than knowing a particular person is attracted to the same sex. I am straight but have many gay/lesbian friends. To be quite honest none of these people push themselves on you. There's nothing significantly different about them, they are people too with the same feelings and can hurt emotionally just as much as anyone else can. It's just a characteristic that's different about them. Like I prefer a man with brown hair, they prefer to same sex relationships. It doesn't hurt anyone. When will people stop worrying about other people's lives when it's none of their business?