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The Dilemma Continues On The Dilemma's 'Gay' Joke

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Vince Vaughn finally responded to the controversy surrounding the "gay" joke in his upcoming movie, The Dilemma, but according to GLAAD, his justfication for using the word isn't going to fly!

GLAAD President Jarrett Barrios counters:

"Jokes can bring people together, but they can also push us apart. When 'gay' is used as a pejorative, it frequently sends a message—particularly to youth and their bullies—that being gay is wrong and something to laugh at. We invite Vince Vaughn to work with us and help ensure that gay youth and those perceived to be gay aren't in harm's way by such jokes."

Unfortunately, we have to agree.

We have to lead by example, and help our youth understand that there is nothing wrong with being gay, and that jokes like that have no place being perpetuated anymore - especially not as a means to market a film!

Thoughts??

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75 comments to “The Dilemma Continues On The Dilemma's 'Gay' Joke”



  1. 1

    When did it stop being homosexual and start being gay? Even the Flintstones sang about having a gay ole time!

  2. fogee says – reply to this


    2

    just coz now there's a gay revolution in america, you all think you're entitled to be higher than anyone else,
    it's just a joke, in 30 rock there are constant jokes where black is used as some sort of insult.

    soon people won't be allowed to call someone else a "dick" because it's discriminatory against the gay's favourite thing in the world

    that's why it's called gay, coz gay people as you have just proven are extremely lame whiny bitches.



  3. 3

    People are over-the-top sensitive. It's just CRAZY. I know that my gay friends wouldn't be up in arms about it at all. They're too busy living life. Chill out, folks. Seriously.



  4. 4

    god when can we stop picking apart everything little thing to death???? i mean its getting to a point in today society that u cant even say Booo without offending anyone… its getting to a point that u can even tell a joke anymore…



  5. 5

    That BS could be used for ANYTHING. Its not ok to make fun of FAT people. Its not ok to make fun of UGLY people. Its not ok to make fun of people with DISABILITIES, ACNE, or whatever. Its not ok to make fun of so-called NERDS. Its not ok to make "black" jokes or "beaner" jokes. YET ALL OF THOSE SUBJECTS ARE THE BUTT OF THE JOKES. Gays want to be equal BUT they want special treatment. It doesn't work like that. Make up your mind. Are you equal or NOT? EVERYTHING else in the world is ok to joke about EXCEPT gay. Get the fuck over yourselves. Its getting extremely annoying. You guys don't want equal rights. You want to be treated like QUEENS. Guess what. Its not gonna happen.

    KEEP THE GAY JOKE IN!!!!!!!!!!



  6. 6

    boo hoo get over yourselves its a fuckin joke!!! Just because Thers a gay revolution dosnt mean your better than everyone else or anything …man up!..oh sorry nevermind ha!



  7. 7

    "That's so Gay" is offensive, as is "you suck," which is a cleaned up version of "You Suck Dork" and "Dork' is british slang meaning underdeveloped male organ. Go ahead, keep it in. Just as stupid as allowing such phrases in American Public schools. Native Americans never imagined our world changing so much.



  8. 8

    "I MEAN NOT HOMOSEXUAL GAY…"

    I'm all for gay rights, but you push people away when you're over-fucking-sensitive. HE OUTRIGHT SAID HE WASN'T REFERRING TO HOMOSEXUALS. The fact that he'd have to justify himself, apologize, or remove that part of the movie from the commercial is more offensive than the use of the word gay.



  9. 9

    Vince Vaughns such a prick. If people were saying the N word it wouldn't be alright.



  10. 10

    This is not the first time Gay was brought up in a movie, tv show, media, ect. I do not think it is offensive, especially in the way Vince uses it. Get over it, its 2010.



  11. 11

    And I will still go see it, there are worse movies and things on the TV that influence the world besides the use of the word Gay



  12. 12

    Re: woofenstein – Well, guess what. The "N" word is used in movies all the time. Even though its "not ok to say" they don't take it out of EVERY SINGLE movie. The word "gay" shouldn't get any special treatment. I'm soooo sick of gay people. I was all for them until they started crying about everything. Now I hope they lose every battle cuz they're just a bunch of whiners. I'm sick of it! Whinning doesn't get you anywhere!



  13. 13

    When gay organizations take some innocent bit of meaningless dialogue in a movie and blow it way out of proportion just to get media attention, they are inviting a backlash. You don't gain respect by expecting the world to bow to your every demand. No surprise you get bullied.

  14. Draax says – reply to this


    14

    Didn't he qualify the meaning by saying something like "not in a homosexual way" as part of the joke? Why is it that the homosexual community has a monopoly on the word "gay"? These words only have an offensive meaning if you allow yourself to be offended by them.



  15. 15

    This whole thing is so gay. I fucking hate all the PC shit, just fucking retarded.



  16. 16

    LOVE YOU PEREZ



  17. 17

    Here is my question. Will the same standards apply for movies making fun of "chubby" girls so girls dont get depressed and become aneorexic? Will it be pulled when they make fun of someone that has zits, big hair, funny voice? There needs to be a line drawn. The bullying is obviously so wrong, for anything. But this was not harmful. Come on. Queen Latifa was in the scene and she is a lesbian. If she didnt have an issue with it, then others need to get over it.



  18. 18

    vince vaughn is a rich white straight man. how the hell would he know if "that's so gay" is offensive to some gay people. especially when it's meant to be negative. i'm not about to tell black people, or jewish people, or latino's, ect….. what they should or shouldn't find offensive. instead of straight people being so defensive about something they have no experience with why not just say "sorry, didn't realize this was offensive to you, won't use that term anymore". i guess it's easy to find things funny until the joke is on you.



  19. 19

    The only thing GLAAD is doing is giving this movie free publicity. I'm gay, and I'm not offended by how sometimes the word is used. We call each other "phags" and "gurl" all the time. What's the difference? And we're not particularly nice to each other, either, but we expect everyone to be nice to us? I think GLAAD should focus their energy on some of the BS, hatefulness, and divisiveness that occurs within the gay community.



  20. 20

    Censorship is never the answer. The right to freedom of speech is something you hide behind Mario, gays don't get to be selective about it.



  21. 21

    1. It's a joke
    2. Do you give katy perry for her song 'ur so gay'



  22. 22

    Oh, so it's ok for a joke to be about someone being fat, thin, black, Mexican, Asian, Middle Eastern, physically or mentally handicapped, deformed, tall, short, ugly, & so on, but god forbid it has something to do with being gay! All comedies poke fun at something, this doesn't mean they're sending a message that certain things are wrong and it's ok for people to belittle others because of it. Only a SICK mind would even think something like that. It's just like blaming video games/movies/music for violence. Children act they way they do, because of how they're raised. How about placing blame where it belongs - on the parents of the children who torment others. I know many gay people and I highly doubt any of them would have an issue with the Vince Vaughn movie. Gay people make jokes about straight people all the time, how is that any different?



  23. 23

    Re: woofenstein – I agree completely, no way could he say the "n" word and say it is "funny" and brings people "together."

    To all the gay haters responding, thanks for reading this website and supporting gays you stupid idiots.

    It's a bad joke first and second there's no point to it so why do it? If it was in the movie, whatever, who cares, but for a 30 second or 60 second trailer for that to be the funny line it's BS. It's a bad dumb joke, no point, it's out of the trailer, move on.



  24. 24

    Gay…



  25. 25

    Re: ickynicky – Wow, very very well said. Its funny because I asked some of my gay friends as well and they all think it was funny and how Vince Vaugn presented it was even funnier.



  26. 26

    The can say whatever the FUCK they want in that movie. It is their movie. If you don't like it, don't go see it. Or exercise your free speech rights and protest it if you want. But don't for one freaking second think that they should be required to change it or go out of their way to get all entangled with your organization because of a small scene in a movie. By the way, we have a ton of movies where people are getting their heads blown off and tortured and all kinds of sick shit, but you're all upset over a gay joke in a movie? Vince Vaughn doesn't have to do jack shit for you, GLAAD. Give me a break.

  27. cgabs says – reply to this


    27

    I have only respect and support for gay rights but even if this joke is politically incorrect, I think you are over reacting a bit, if the character was different probably I would agree but is implied that the comment even in the movie is not right, and therefore, for me, that automatically makes it right, hope I made sense!!



  28. 28

    Mario, THIS IS WHY your site is going to shit. Your are SOOO worried about this gay shit instead of worried about your business. Come on. WHO CARES? STOP whining!!!! It is just a little tiny FUNNY joke! The joke actually shines light on the gay PC movement bullshit anyway. You all are just trying to get more air time as usual. Mario you are a total hypocrite.



  29. 29

    Oh Lord. People are way too sensitive. I mean it is ok to ridicule people for their different religions and make jokes about being overweight. He wasn't even using gay in a derogatory way against gay people. So stupid. I am sick of how everything people say is being censored.



  30. 30

    Come on Mario! The word `gay' was appropriated by the homosexual community at the beginning of the 20th Century because they didn't like the sound of the myriad slurs concocted by homophobes. Fair enough - but - language is for communication. The word `gay' is getting a new meaning among young straight people and there really is nothing anybody can do about it. They say it because they think it. It mightn't please the homosexual community but those are social forces at work. Vince Vaughan uses the term because he knows his audience will get it - because they use it and think it. So you could say he is exploiting the limited vocabulary of his audience. Perhaps the time has come for the homosexual community to stop using euphemisms for themselves and have personal pride rather than collective gay pride or queer power or the other weird and wonderful terms they craft to mollify what they really are about. I remember a time when gay just meant happy. Vince Vaughan's audience thinks it means weak or puerile. Others think it means defensive and grandstanding. Perhaps its time to put away childish things and just speak like grown up men and women.

  31. Ammie says – reply to this


    31

    If you are not gay, you have no f'in clue how offensive this is. Keep your mouth shut.

  32. Ammie says – reply to this


    32

    Re: elsie72377 – No it's NOT okay to make jokes about religion and people who are overweight.



  33. 33

    Um, my middle name is gay. I was named that at a time when gay meant happy, not homosexual or anything else. What makes all of you think you have the right to claim a word for yourself, that didn't even have the same meaning 30 years ago? It's a joke people.



  34. 34

    i think this is absolutely ridiculous that you are actually supporting this! Your bullying vince vaugn! leave hiim alone it was a movie script. stop being so sensitive. Im gay, and pretty pissed you and GLAAD are blowing this out of the water!!!



  35. 35

    GlAAD LGBT and the rest need to get the fuck over themselves and realize they are not special. If the special intrest groups that cry foul everytime some uses free speach and expression would cut the shit the world would be a better place. What next a kid with red hair gets called ginger and a group of redheads will try to get that expression labled a hate speech crime. Get the fuck out of grade school people



  36. 36

    Listen, I am a white, straight female. How about that movie called "White Chicks"? No one freaked out over that and it was blatantly making fun of white, rich girls. Oh but wait White people have never suffered so it's okay to make fun of them.
    I feel for kids being bullied. I have a cousin in high school who is a lesbian and there are kids who say rude things but she's a strong girl.
    Having one comment in a movie, out of THOUSANDS is not going to harm anyone and taking it out is not going to STOP the bullying.

    Here's the issue though… Kids these days are not being raised at home by parents. They are being raised by the media, music, video games, television shows… etc and so we have the WORD POLICE.
    Black jokes, white jokes, fat jokes, skinny jokes, gay jokes… They are everywhere and people need to learn that it is JUST A JOKE!

    Also, does anyone realize… When Vince Vaughn says the "gay" joke in the scene when he continues to explain himself the whole point of the script is that he says it and everyone in the office is sort of like "why did he say that?" "he can't do it" and it's sort of awkward so he explains himself like "no, i didn't mean it negatively like homosexual…"
    The word GAY has many different meanings. Maybe at the end of the movie with credits they should just have a PSA about gay bullying. Everyone wins.



  37. 37

    I don't know in what context the word is used, but if it's offensive then I simply won't go see the movie. But if you want to talk about someone who gives the word "gay" a negative connotation, check into Jarrett Barrios' personal life. He's a high profile activist who reinforces negative stereotypes. Very unfortunate.



  38. 38

    Ive just watched an episode of the simpsons where Homer complained about something and called it "gay"… that episode is many years old. And it never got censored!.
    Now this was a joke not even about homosexual, but about a "gay car" basically, a "festive car"…. and people do a scandal.
    Get over yourself.



  39. 39

    OH BIG FUCKING DEAL A GAY JOKE. GET OVER IT. FAT JOKES. JEW JOKES. CATHOLIC JOKES. POLISH JOKES. YOU'RE GAY AND FAT SO YOU'RE THE BIGGEST JOKE OF ALL LOSER.



  40. 40

    Re: deNile

    The "n" word and gay are not the same thing. Even you know that, since it seems you won't spell the "n" word, but feel it is perfectly fine to spell out the word gay. If you really cared you would change you writing patterns. For example, I refuse to say or write the "R" word (mentally handicapped) or the other "F" word (gay) AND I call my friends out when they do.



  41. 41

    STOP letting words be sooooo powerful!

    The "N" word, the "C" word, the "F" word, the "M" word (midget)… what's next?

    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me.
    Learn it! Live it!



  42. 42

    Holy shit, this is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard!!! Get over it bitches!! And Perez, FUCK YOU! You're the biggest bully in the world. You constantly pick on women like it's your job. Oh, I guess misogyny is ok…you fucking hypocrite. The words whore and slut can be used on television till the cows come home, but God forbid we offend the gays. I am soooo fucking sick of how PC this world is becoming. Bunch of whiny ass bitches.



  43. 43

    whether or not the joke is in the movie, this dude is a waste of human life
    i have never nor will i ever go to see him in a movie
    he needs to be yesterday's news



  44. 44

    My thoughts are that we all need to lighten up. As a bisexual, I didn't find the joke funny, but that's only because it wasnt funny. I wasn't offended or insulted, it just failed to make me laugh. There is such a thing as being TOO politically correct, and that also pushes people apart.



  45. 45

    "Vince Vaughns such a prick. If people were saying the N word it wouldn't be alright."

    THAT'S A LIE. People have said the n word in movies and no one complained. cough departed.



  46. 46

    Re: gorgeous_chik7 – Wow, you are such an idiot. I'm gay and I don't find the joke that offensive. Good job at calling 10% of the population "a bunch of whiners".



  47. 47

    "If people were saying the N word it wouldn't be alright."

    Gay people were not enslaved for over a hundred years. Stop comparing yourselves to blacks it's pathetic.



  48. 48

    I'm not a fan of using "gay" as a pejorative either, but fictional characters owe no social responsibility to anybody. It's okay for characters - even ones we're supposed to like on the whole - to behave poorly. They're supposed to be flawed. Especially characters played by Vince Vaughn; his schtick is playing lovable assholes, and his best characters tend to be the biggest assholes. But this distinction between real-life and fictional standards that Perez Hilton and several P.C. media blowhards need to start appreciating extends to all movies. Butch Cassidy, Thief of Baghdad, Beavis, Butthead, Cartman, pretty much everyone in "Boogie Nights" and "Pulp Fiction…" You show me a movie in which all characters are exemplary paragons of human perfection and I'll show you one really shitty movie. And it seemed like the joke was that people who use the word "gay" pejoratively AREN'T saying that "being gay is wrong and something to laugh at," the precise opposite of how Barrios interpreted it. All that said, this is probably just a publicity stunt for the movie, which I won't be seeing as it seems like a 30-minute sitcom episode's subplot stretched over the course of a feature-length movie.



  49. 49

    Here you go again with the same video and the same article. You are being oversensitive. It should stay in and is hilarious. It isn't about homosexuals; its a joke. GAY having another connotation because this is the 21st century and words change, i.e., Negro/black/person of color/African American.



  50. 50

    Perez, i know you mean well but every page has at least two articles about gay this and that and Glee this and that…..where's the meat?



  51. 51

    Gay! bahahahahah gay! bahahahahahah Gay!!!! bahaahhahahaahah… this is out of hand. get the fuck over it. everyone… i mean EVERYONE gets made fun of in COMEDY. GET OVER IT. i'm all for the rights of homosexuals, but don't forget our right to freedom of expression. stop being fucking gay.



  52. 52

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  53. 53

    Unfortunately, we have to agree.

    We have to lead by example, and help our youth understand that there is nothing wrong with being gay, and that jokes like that have no place being perpetuated anymore - especially not as a means to market a film!

    Thoughts
    MY THOUGHTS ARE YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP PREACHING..REMEMBER THE WILL.I.AM DRAMA?
    JUST STFU AND LET RESPONSIBLE HOMOSEXUALS PREACH TOLERANCE AND WHATS RIGHT OR WRONG WORDS TO SAY ABOUT A SEXUAL CHOICE…



  54. 54

    Re: ImOldGreg – watch out..you'll probably get branded a ”poser” since yr not 100 % gay….lol



  55. 55

    What the fuck, this is ridiculous. Their is no malace intended here, get a fucking sense of humor!



  56. 56

    gay! get over it



  57. 57

    Have to see the whole movie as it's taken out of context in the trailer. Sounds like he's using the word "gay" to imply what the ignorant majority of people think of as being effeminate or not cool. On a certain level, so what? We have the right in this country to freedom of speech and that includes the right to be an ignorant ass. Like I said, I'd have to see the whole movie to make a judgement but I'm for freedom of speech and no censorship. Spend the time and energy on gay rights, gay marriage, gay pride, and stamping out gay discrimination in the workplace, etc. There will always be haters (sad to say) and they will always find nasty words for those they hate. We have to get strong (if not full of self esteem already) and recognize those people for the sad, weak, unhappy humans they are, feel sorry for them, hope they find happiness and personal redemption for the hateful things they've done, and at least be glad we're not like them!



  58. 58

    It's a fucking joke. Relax.



  59. 59

    Re: msloriga – I totally agree with you. That's going too far for nothing and that totally deserve the cause.



  60. 60

    Oh, your hipocracy…have a website dedicated to ripping others, but when it offends you personally, you somehow go to a moral place? You're an idiot Perez - a second rate whore without a soul.



  61. 61

    Oh, your hipocracy…you have a website dedicated to ripping others, but when it offends you personally, you somehow talk about responsibily? You're an idiot Perez - a second rate whore without a soul.



  62. 62

    FREEDOM…OF…SPEECH! FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION! Look, I love the gay community with all my heart, but by banning such jokes I feel they are sending the exact same message. That being gay is some how wrong and shouldn't be mentioned unless it is in a positive light. GLADD can not decide what is and is not ok in films! We all know there is stereotyping all over hollywood, and its fine because Americans are stupid. Just deal with it, you dont see the black community getting up in arms every time a person makes a black joke, and you don't see mexicans getting all worked up when people tell mexican jokes! I mean..they are jokes.



  63. 63

    Re: gorgeous_chik7 – Your ignorance is astounding.

  64. uyeah says – reply to this


    64

    Political correctness has gone to far. It's so gay.



  65. 65

    What about you calling that guy "gayface" all the time?



  66. 66

    Part of the problem with Political Correctness is that it is tied to Hollywood and its manifestations - as if Hollywood is somehow a voice of the people and not a money-making, celebrity-making machine. People do pay attention, however, and the special-interest groups like GLAAD who somehow feel they are entitled to represent all homosexuals by demanding that free speech, irony, humor, etc. be restricted to only that which might meet an impossible/undefined standard are ironically destroying the very rights they seek to express. Vince Vaughn is trying to save his ass, his job, his movie, and his career by kowtowing to GLAAD and nothing else; if he had any balls, what he should be say to GLAAD is: lighten up, assholes - and go home. No one cares about your whiny club". Suppressing someone else's free speech in the name of preserving your rights - no matter how discomforting or seemingly intolerant - is the very antithesis of the American Way (see the 1st Amendment). It's time GLAAD and their ilk give up this intolerant attitude and find a different tack for "their" cause; it is dangerous, counterproductive - and dammit, it isn't right. Thank you.



  67. 67

    Re: Johnsonbrewster – I so agree!!



  68. 68

    I love Vince Vaughn he is hilarious! Loved the movie Couples Retreat! He is right everything is under a frickin microscope these days, it is getting out of hand really.



  69. 69

    omfg…keep the joke, people are way too sensative!!! Gay!!



  70. 70

    I thought it was funny. It is totally gay to take oneself to seriously.



  71. 71

    i think words have whatever meaning we sincerely give them, gay being one of those words. I don't think he was using it in a negative context and this is just being used for publicity.



  72. 72

    Perez, you are not a celebrity! We don”t care about your fucking mother! Stick to celeb Gossip you fuck!



  73. 73

    Whether we like it or not, there will still be people who use gay as a synonym for stupid, lame, etc. Media like this tells younger audiences that the word gay is seen something negative. We're so advanced in many aspects, so why do we tolerate homophobia and negativity towards the LGBT community?
    Gay once meant happy, so why does it have to be regarded as something bad, to keep away from? As adults, we know right from wrong, but the youth need guidance.

    One a side note: As I watched the trailer, I was wondering who that somewhat-familiar-looking actress was. And then I knew. This movie is going to flop badly.



  74. 74

    I think it's way more offensive to call barely legal young women such as miley cyrus a whore or a slut on your page. "That's gay" is lot less harmless especially used in the way they are in this movie. You blow me away with your hypocracy, not that I care either way but for you to take a stand on this like it's horribly offensive just seems ridiculous with the judgemental and heartfull things you put out there towards people everyday.



  75. 75

    My Gawd. It's not that big a deal. Using gay in this context is no big deal unless you make it one. All you're doing is bringing attention to the movie, not the issue. GAY GAY GAY. See, it's just a word, not bashing or hate.

    It's not like they used the 'f' word to describe a gay person..