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'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy Is Reinstated.

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So incredibly disappointing.

A San Francisco federal appeals court has overturned Judge Virginia A. Phillips' injunction against 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' and has ruled that the military must keep the policy in place.

According to the 9th Circuit:

"a stay pending appeal would obviate the confusion and uncertainty that might be caused by temporary implementation of the district court's injunction, with the looming possibility that the statutory policy could be reinstated on appeal. Enjoining the operation of the statute before the appeal is concluded would create tremendous uncertainty about the status of servicemembers who may reveal their sexual orientation in reliance on the district court's decision and injunction."

They may have won the battle, but they have not won the war!

It's only a matter of time, people!


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41 comments to “'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy Is Reinstated.”

  1. 1

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  2. buck says – reply to this


    WTF…this thing is getting ridiculous. People join the military to be soldiers not to be gay. It shouldn't fucking matter and nobody needs to know. Everyone voluntarily joins to do a job. it doesn't matter if you a fucking a dog, a horse, a super model or another man's ass. Don't bring it to work, do your job and everyone live happily ever after. The bottom line is they are there to be soldiers not give bj's.

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    First of all, Mario, why can ONE JUDGE in S.F. overturn what Congress voted through during BILL CLINTON'S PRESIDENCY. 2nd, and most of all, YOU TAKE AWAY DADT, what do you have? In the military, YOU DO NOT HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS FOR GAY PEOPLE. Do you not understand that? They would go back to what they had previously, unless Congress puts something in its place. AND THEY HAVE NOT. Before DADT, anyone could go up to anyone they suspected of being gay and ask them. Being Honorable is a quality in the military. If they do not lie and answer YES, they are dishonorably DISCHARGED. They were bullied, beatup and I am sure, some killed. There is nothing in affect in all five branches to take the place of DADT, IT CAN NOT BE REPEALED BEFORE THIS IS DONE. The military is not liberal, it is not like the world out here. Don't go around trying to change things unless you know what is going to happen to their gay people. YOU, Mario, might be doing more harm than good, be having it repealed. Let people who KNOW THE MILITARY DO IT.

  4. 4

    Why were you going to join?

    the Gay agenda, PC agenda, the Liberal Left agenda is killing this country. Is it any wonder that since we let the liberal PC agenda take over our lives this country has fallen on it's face???

  5. 5

    go to uganda………….they hang people simply because they're a homosexual…….
    it's easier to bitch about what you don't have then be grateful for what you do………….

  6. 6

    I am actually amazed that "Don”t ask don't tell" is a policy. It seems so 19th century and hard to believe that people cannot serve in the military openly gay. What is the nation gaining by keeping openly gay individuals out of the military? Nothing but a reputation of a hateful country, a reputation of an unaccepting military, and a less adequate military.

    I am Canadian, and love the U.S and many of its members. However, when I heard that "Don't ask don't tell" was an actual policy, I was floored. It's archaic, its unaccepting, and fortunately it is only a matter of time before homosexuals gain equal rights.

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    PS - I am floored by the douchiness of some of these comments. Maybe those against homosexuality should go live in a place where it isn't accepted, like Iraq or Uganda. Then you might understand the importance of equality!!!

  9. 9

    I wonder if gays are aware this will be causing more trouble than anything in the long run..Do gays need special recognition and or special treatment in the military? That's what it sounds like to me. A metro/hetero/homosexual is not serving in the military. Nor is a black/brown or white guy. A PERSON is serving. You do not have straight people going around saying "HEY GUYS IM HETEROSEXUAL I LOVE GIRLS"..But for some reason gay people do. Obviously for attention. Another downside is the legal problems. A gay person could not only exploit that to get out of the military early but lawsuits could also happen. When you get a bunch of guys together..They call each other pansies/fairies,etc. Same with drill instructors. So with this crap being lifted..If a drill instructor was to say "Stop being such a fairy" to a gay guy..then thats all she wrote. He could demand honorable discharge for harassment, Sue the army,etc. This should of stayed intact. When you are VOLUNTEERING for something and when you sign your name on that dotted line you are ACCEPTING those terms. Psh.

  10. 10

    If you actually bothered to do some research before making a statement Perez, you would learn that the Obama administration is completely committed to abandoning the "don't ask don't tell" policy. It will be much better for everyone if we wait for the appellate decision before unleashing mayhem and confusion to all the service members.

  11. 11

    You have been completely mis-stating the Obama administration's position on this. Basically, if lower courts keep overturning and reinstating DADT, that doesn't do anyone any good. As you have now soon, one day's victory can be taken away three days later. THEY want it to be done legislatively, where it would be PERMANENTLY CHANGED.

  12. 12

    Perez brother being in the military isn't a right. I am crippled I can't join. Women can't be front line. Congress made DADT, congress will remove it AFTER the review. Need to wait just a little bit more so you and other gay folk can join. you are going to join right? After all you wrote it would be right for you to join. At least the reserves.

  13. 13

    I hope to hell it will be removed by congress, but I guess it will all depend on the next election. Will we go backward or will we go forward? Strange how draconian our country can be with so many things anyway yet we often pat ourselves on the back thinking we are the best in the world. Yeah maybe 30 or 40 years ago. Now we are the best jailers in the world. We can't be beaten on that.

  14. 14

    Re: supernikki8 – going to a place like those you've mentioned would hopefully make one appreciate all the freedoms they do currently have in the country they call home, instead of once again, bitching about what they don't have.

  15. 15

    Don't Ask, Don't Tell has to be the most stupid law in the history of the united states. The fact that its even an issue in the year 2010 in what is supposed be a free country is barbaric.

    Yes, please lets not get confused. Reinstate it by all means cause this stupid, dumb, pointless law could be reinstated. How about this? Don't fucking appeal it.

  16. 16

    Don't Ask, Don't Tell = Don't Care, Do as you please. Just keep you damn mouth shut about it.

  17. 17

    What's wrong with having more boots on the ground? If a homosexual is willing to stand the wall and possibly die for our country - Let Them.

    Most people address this issue by visualizing BJ's in the men's barracks. Effeminate men would never make it through Boot Camp. Too physically and emotionally weak. I can only assume this affects more lesbians. Currently they are on our police force, firefighters, pilots and construction workers, etc. No one voices a problem with that. Let Them Serve if they are brave enough to do what many would not.

    Queen Elizabeth I emptied her prisons to allow them to serve in defense of England. Anyone brave enough, strong enough, smart enough to defend this country against terrorists deserves a uniform. Each volunteered Boot In Place, puts us farther away from
    a mandatory draft and enlistment. The military would have plenty of homosexuals if that happens.

  18. 18

    deal with it. straight guys dont want you working in close proximity with them. it will undermine the amazing work that they do. is all the straight men left the military and left gays in cahrge we'd be in deep brown stuff. its one thing you cant get your own way with by screaming and shouting as though you were a majority.

  19. 19

    Re: April 20th

    Yes April, it would make ANYONE recognize the importance of equality and freedom.

  20. 20

    I have been in the military for quite a bit now, and I have a few gay friends who do serve. I don't understand the issue. I believe that we should be the ones voting on this and not the public. I keep hearing that gays cannot serve in the military, but I think people have not read the actual policy. Gays can and do serve in the military. Being gay is a sexual preference/orientation. We are Soldiers, we are not identified by our sexual preference. We are Soldiers. Our job is to serve and protect the laws of the Constitution. Since when does what we do in our bedrooms have become more important than that?

    I am, by no means, against homosexuality. I don't introduce myself as, "Sergeant, and I'm heterosexual," I introduce myself as Sergeant. People are so quick to call someone a bigot, that they don['t actually think about the actual issue.

    How would I know you're gay? Do you have glitter on your boots? I wouldn't know, nor do I care. I care about mentoring Soldiers, that's it. I don't care about your sex life. Nor do I want to know. Gays can serve. No one ever said they couldn't. Get the crap right before putting out false information.

  21. 21

    This is ridiculous!
    It is time for President Obama to stand up & take care of this.
    I really admire President Obama - but - it time he got some BALLS & did the right thing for ALL!
    Screw the Anti-American conservatives!!

  22. 22

    Re: supernikki8

    I think you are the one that is seriously misguided. No one is against gays in the military. As a matter of fact, gays have and do serve. Before you accuse someone of being a bigot, and feeling ashamed of those who have an opinion, how about you pony up and take the "Oath of Enlistment," like many of us have. The decision about that is NOT up to you. It should be up to those of us that has already put our life on the line to defend the freedoms that we have today. How about you do a little research instead of bashing them. DADT does not state gays can't be in the military, it is saying don't talk about it. I am a Soldier and I want to be identified as a Soldier. Not by my sexual orientation, what makes it any different for a gay Soldier? They have the same rights as I do. So get it right instead of going by what Perez Hilton, who has never served, is stating. We all have the same freedoms. Only if they are married if that becomes an issue, and that is not a military issue. So as of right now, what I believe is that NO ONE should be identified by their sexual status. We are SOLDIERS!!!! Not a gay Soldier, or a straight Soldier. Get it right!

  23. 23

    Re: NookiesWA – beause you dumb bitch, it isn't ok to lose your job because of your sexuality. The military has been caught going through emails and people have told on others. Gays dont just go around saying "im gay". seriously its people like you who make this country such a hateful place. Your ignorance makes the rest of us hateful, thats why i called you a dumb bitch.

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    the "battle" you should be focusing on is the real one in Afghanistan. DADT is trivial in comparison to the lives being lost due to the US efforts to dominate the middle east. I would take your efforts to repeal DADT a lot more seriously if you were concerned about the actual war and the toll it is taking on ALL soldiers.

    The people pushing for the repeal of DADT are not soldiers (other than one or two individuals), they are normal civilians who don't have a clue about the military. If you asked the soldiers what they want, they would tell you they don't give a flying rats ass… they just want to come home to their families.

    Plus, gays already CAN enlist in the military… recruiters just don't want to hear about sexual proclivities, straight or gay. Sexuality shouldn't be one of the questions on the enlistment forms at all… you are a soldier… not a gay soldier or a straight soldier. Just like it doesn't matter what skin color you are in the Army… it doesn't matter what kind of sex you like to have either. It's discrimination to ask. The army is not about f*cking it is about fighting.

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    Sunny8183- I actually had to reread my name in your comment about 3 times because I did not make any of the comments you accused me of. In fact, I am pretty sure I have never used the word Bigot in my life (unless I was making fun of rick sanchez).

    It's ridiculous to say that gay and straight people have the same rights in the military. If they did, DADT wouldn't exist and neither would this discussion. A male would never be discharged for announcing they were dating a female.

    Fortunately, history shows that basic civil rights always wins at the end of a civil rights battle. I would predict within five years that fortunately, DADT will be a distant memory.

  26. 26

    WOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!! Equal rights for only straight people! YES YES YES! Take that gays!

  27. 27

    Re: Sunny8183 – No offense, Sunny, I agree with most everything you said. The problem is that usually the gays that are in the military now are not the ones coming out themselves, they are being outed and sent home. Most feel the same way you do. They are there to be soldiers and nothing else. Their sexual orientation does not matter and honestly there are only a handful that want anyone to know. But God forbid anyone find out that they are gay, because then they are ratted out and sent home. That puts any gay in a hard position. Your superior may have never let anyone know he was gay, it might not have ever mattered to him, but if someone comes along after his position and knows the truth, then it is over for him.

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    Re: Sunny8183

    And then they're seen on a date with someone of the same sex and all of their loyalty, hard work, and sacrifice becomes irrelevant and their career is over.

  29. 29

    WHY should homosexuals GET TO STAY AT HOME? Why should we only sacrafice heterosexuals to protect and serve? I say enlist all willing to be a soldier. I say enlist anyone willing to protect this country or those in oppressed nations.

    In truth, we would ALL pass a gun to Anyone that would stand by our side and help
    shoot your way out of an enemy combat zone. We are all Americans first and there are
    evil people that want to kill us and oppress and commit genicide against the weak in the world. We need to build our armed forces with all committed GOOD skilled soldiers to participate in the fight. The terrorists are here and ready to blow us up again!

    Homosexual Americans we need your help too! SIGN UP AND SERVE. Good luck at boot camp. We also need your devotion as an American.

  30. 30

    Re: NookiesWA – you're completely missing the point. they do not want to be openly gay so they can get special treatment/tell everyone they are gay. the point is, they are not allowed to be themselves and have to hide who they are. you don't think the hetero men are talking about their wives and girlfriends to their friends, because they miss them and love them? and gay people who are in relationships cannot express to their friends in the military how much they miss their significant others?

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    Re: wiseguy
    Wow, tells us how you really feel. I work at JAG, and I have never, ever heard of the any command submitting a Chapter 15 packet (Homosexual chapter, for those not in the military) with emails they discovered on anyone's personal computer. People have been punished for doing things on a government computer that is not for your personal use.

    When the judge had ordered the injunction, a gay Soldier came into the office and professed to all of us that he was gay. During the same week, a female Soldier decided to tell our commander that the person living in her house was not a cousin, but in fact, her girlfriend. Speaking about your sexlife in ANY profession is not professional. And unless you work in a brothel, I do not see where it is beneficial regardless if you are straight or gay.

    If you are seriously telling me, that the Military has been caught going through people's emails that is not on a government computer to show as evidence, I would like for you to show the link or give me the case law to support your claim. Otherwise, stop lying.

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    i am disgusted with the comments here. gay people do not want to be openly gay to get special treatment, or to cause problems. they want to be able to BE THEMSELVES. they are with these same army members 24/7 and when these heterosexual men talk about their wives and girlfriends and how much they miss them, gay people have to suffer in silence. you don't think they want to talk to their friends about their significant others and how much they miss them? overturning this policy might cause minor issues, but it is something that needs to happen. we can't call our nation a great nation until we treat everyone with the same respect and give everyone the same equal rights. i understand that sexuality doesn't have place in their line of work, but booting someone out of the military for being openly gay is ridiculous. if they keep the policy, make it for everyone. kick straight people out for talking about their wives and women and sexuality. fair is fair.

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    obamas admin is in support of don't ask don't tell because he has lot so much support from democrats. if he says he is in favor of suspending this policy, he would lose so much support.
    in other words, he has no backbone.

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    Re: Ms.Do_It – he is in support of it, but his administration said they were NOT in support of it because it will lose him support and popularity

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    Re: mattyvoyager – There is a job for every type in the military as along as you are committed to the mission. There are cooks, analyisits, coding etc, etc. STOP suggesting that there are only FRONT line duties.

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    Re: Sunny8183
    I agree 100%! I'm an army wife and have been living this life a while now. The army's motto is an army of one. Especially if you have combat detail it is most important to follow this motto. Why? Because lives are in danger. This is not a gay military or a straight military, it’s the unit that serves and is willing to give their lives to protect this country and others. This is not something we need to be focusing on when soldiers are dying on a daily basis; gay and straight. I understand the need for equal rights, however I don't believe the military is ready for that change. Sexual orientation should not be discussed when the job risk is lost lives.

  37. 37

    Good… this shit needs to be around. I'm REALLY getting sick of gay people FORCING themselves on things. People over 42 aren't allowed to enlist, people with mental disorders aren't allowed to enlist, felons aren't allowed to enlist… why not fight for them? Huh? Equal rights for ALL right? You're pathetic, I hope the gays do force themselves to be let in, I know a few guys I was in with would LOVE for someone to try and force them to tolerate a platoon of fruits. You think because you can cry and make someone change a law that all of the sudden people are going to mafically accept it? Get real. As long as gays cry for "EQUAL TREATMENT FOR ALL" but only try to show why THEY should be treated differently they will be frowned upon and be a lesser people.

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    Re: HsvDeej

    I get that. I see the issue in that and as a Soldier, and someone who works in the legal office, I can only go by the issues I have witnessed myself and the records set before me.
    I agree, people shouldn't have to hide who they are to serve. If the military themselves came out and said they are repealing it, I would not have one problem with it. The fact that people who have never put on a uniform is making these decisions without asking any of us how we feel, makes me feel like we do not have a voice. That is what most of the Soldiers' problems are, that no one is asking US. I feel for people being outed, by someone other than themselves. I have never witnessed it, but I feel for them. The funny thing is, when I walked out of the courtroom two days ago, the media didn't ask me about the Soldier who just went to jail for murdering his daughter that he was molesting for 4 years, they didn't ask me about our upcoming deployment, they asked me about if we were allowing openly gay Soldiers in the Army. When did that become more important? This is becoming an issue for the wrong reasons. It shouldn't be a distraction from what our real mission is, but it's funny how that is the only questions we have been hearing about for the past two weeks.

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    Re: hugabug

    I agree with your comment 100% I couldn't have said it better myself.

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    I know this may not be the popular opinion, but I think the military is not the right place for gays. Why try to force the military to comply to a small minority. These men shower and live in close quarters. The gays will be looking at the straight guys like pieces of meat and will try to make passes on them. why should straight men be subjected to sexual harrassment by the gays?