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Ron Howard Talks About Keeping "Gay" Joke In Vince Vaughn Film
The director finally speaks!
Ron Howard, director of the Vince Vaughn movie, The Dilemma, isn't backing down and says that the "gay" joke will remain in the film when it comes to theaters January 14.
Howard wrote a letter on Friday to the L.A. Times, explaining his decision:
"[Vaughn's character] has a mouth that sometimes gets him into trouble and he definitely flirts with the line of what's okay to say. He tries to do what's right but sometimes falls short. Who can't relate to that?
We never expected [the joke] to represent our intentions or the point of view of the movie or those of us who made it.
I don't strip my films of everything that I might personally find inappropriate. Comedy or drama, I'm always trying to make choices that stir the audience in all kinds of ways. I defend the right for some people to express offense at a joke as strongly as I do the right for that joke to be in a film. But if storytellers, comedians, actors and artists are strong armed into making creative changes, it will endanger comedy as both entertainment and provoker of thought."
He added though, that it was "appropriate" to remove the joke from the trailer, "in light of some events that surrounded the release of the trailer. The Dilemma is a comedy for grown-ups, not kids."
We're glad he decided to take the joke out of the trailer, but we still don't quite agree with his reasoning to keep it in the film.
Thoughts??
[Image via WENN.]
Tags: gay joke, ron howard, the dilemma
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Opie sure got fugly in his old age but he's rich so I guess it doesn't matter.
Dopie Opie is the joke.
Art imitates life. If the character is to be a tool then it should stay. No group needs to be able to dictate what goes in art. You hear horrible things in movies about poeple of color, women and everything in between. It is to tell a story nothing more. If people are offended by it, then good! It serves as a lesson and an example of what NOT to do.
This is completely over blown
Its a movie…………Seriously people have we gotten that uptight that we can no longer laugh at ourselves and have fun. Is it a wonder people are going nuts with everything having to be PC all the time. Get over it already.
Ron Howard couldn't have said it better!
Im gay and the joke should absolutely stay in the film. Stop playing the fucking victim perez…you don't represent ass and you're not our gay ambassador no matter how much you think you'd like to be. just shut the fuck up.
Hooray for censorship.
Fuck this.
Perez Hilton supports censorship.
This is America land of the free that includes what you say if you don't like the movie DON'T GO SEE IT.
I agree with his decision. The words that come out of the characters mouth are to show what a baffoon he is.
I dont mind it. If you're mature you realize it's not meant to be mean spirited. Gay use to mean Happy, but society has turned the word around so now homosexuals take claim to it. It is society that dictates right and wrong and it is society that should be teaching there kids what is right and wrong. I don't think say "That's so gay" is purposely suppose to teach kids to be homophobic I think that kids tend to get that way from their lifestyle who they hang out with and what their parents teach them. You can not let the entertainment industry babysit kids or other people like this. It is up to the people around them to teach them right from wrong.
While we're at it, I would like no more movies that contains domestic violence and makes fun of fat people, cause that offends me.
In comedy either you can make fun of anything, or you can make fun of nothing. How do you draw the line? Is making fun of old people ok? AIDS patients? Gays? Children? White 30 something males? Black people? Mexicans? The pope? Cute pets? Where do you draw the line? Nothing should be off limits and it's up to the viewer to decide if it's meant in fun, has a message, or is just hateful. I myself prefer to hear it all, it's only when you don't censor that you can truly learn what a person is all about. Otherwise they're just hiding it and then no one knows what kind of asshole they are dealing with.
Though, the joke may be inappropriate. I agree that creative outlets could be susceptible to censorship which in return would hinder discussion, or thoughts on sentivie issues. Had Jane Austin been afraid to express her observations, women may have not thought about creating the womens movement. Sometimes, great controversy sparks great conversations, and in return accepted behavior is thus questioned and in time great outcomes of reversal of thought are succeeded. Austin is just one case of provoking thought, but there are many creative outlets which have demonstrated the power of sparking thought. Deemed as inappropiate views by society which have influenced people all throughout history to make great changes which affect us all.
I am a lesbian and very much agree with Ron Howard. Even considering this ridiculous notion, opens up a can of politically correct worms. I mean, when and where does it end?
The 'N' word, referring to women as SLUTS, WHORES are used in films constantly. It relates to the story, so leave it. Opposing this only supports censorship, and frankly we are already teetering with the notion.
We are fighting for EQUALITY, not SPECIAL TREATMENT, its time we stop confusing the two.
How many gay men does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
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All of them.
Go back to Cuba if you don't like freedom of speech fuckhead.
freedom of expression within art cuts both ways. prior to homosexuality becoming accepted mainstream (thx jm j bullock and pedro), it was artistic homosexuals that pushed boundaries. as "outsiders" become insiders, their boundaries are pushed. this means heterosexuals get to push homosexual boundaries (these boundaries are defined by political correctness, old heterosexual boundaries were/are defined by fear and ignorance). that is what ron howard is expressing. taking the joke out the trailer seems like a fair compromise. if you cant see this, i suggest you are too close to the issue.
didn't gay used to mean happy?and didnt queer used to mean bizarre or strange at some point?people change the meaning off these words so why cant a word of more than one meaning?i mean 'gay' is like slang for homosexual.now if they were to say 'that's so homosexual' then yeah take offense but there's nothing offensive about this.also i love Ron Howard and Vince Vaughn and can't wait to see this movie. STOP WHINING!
We have a right to our own opinions and we have the right to free speech. You may not like the line "That's so gay" and that is your right. So if you are offended, keep your money and make your point by not spending your hard earned dollars on it.
I on the other hand, get the damn joke and I am not going to get my panties in a wad over a single line in a movie. So that makes you dislike V.V.'s character a little less. It is supposed to, dipwad.
Grow some balls people. This nation is turning into a bunch of whiny babies.
Put on your big boy shorts and move the fuck on.
I'm Gay and I agree with Opie.
This line is coming out of the mouth of "that" kind of guy.
It exists in reality and his saying it speaks to the type of person Vince is portraying, not to the sensitivities of the audience. If you don't like it, don't support the film by going to see it.
Seems to me you like to play the victim. At one point I was 300 pounds and hated fat jokes - still do - but I refused to play the victim. If a joke bothers you, raise yourself above it. The idea of this is to teach that jokes hurt - if we don't use them as examples, how will others learn?
People have become way to sensitive. It's just a joke, merely words. How "That's gay" can get people up in arms is so beyond me. And how many times have people said something along that line in other movies? What makes this time different? He said the character in the movie is a douche so he is gonna say douche-like things. People are just looking for things to be offended by nowadays. Every single thing suddenly has become so PC.
seriously, people like you are the reason everyone has to tiptoe around each other. ITS NOT A BIG DEAL.
Oh come on Perez! It's a JOKE for God's sake! It's no different than a blond joke or a Polish joke, or whatever. If minorities want people to take them seriously then they are going to have to loosen up a little bit. When we stop laughing at ourselves, we are in trouble.
Mr. Howard is absolutely correct. Comedy isn't advocacy. Context is everything– if there's a murder portrayed onscreen, does that mean the film makers think murder is good?
I say hurray for Mr. Howard, censordhip is censorship !!! If they let this happen, it will never end, and Perez, if censorship is allowed, your site will TANK !!! you are offensive to just about everyone and lucky for you, that's your right…if they don't like it, don't watch, listen or read it !!! Also your right
It's a harmless non-joke, in my book. The person calling a Prius gay is not the person causing people to leap off bridges to their death. They also are not encouraging other idiots to do that. Those people have deep-seated hatred of others that Vince Vaughn and Kevin James have no relevance to. Perez, I would be careful jumping on the bandwagon to censorship. Letting your emotions guide you regarding a sequence of events is a dangerous path. It's a slippery slope for sure.
Calling things "gay" is so high school 2005! Shows the quality of writing for this Vince Vaughn crap. They can't think of anything that hasn't been done to death already–and insults a bunch of people. And that's soooo Vince Vaughn/Ron Howard!
Re: pienado – so refreshing to hear a person who is able to be themselves and not scream and cry over gay slurs. Movies make fun of everyone and offend every person of every creed color and gender. There need to be more people like you representing the gay community because your approach and self-respect make it easier for others to accept you for being YOU. Being gay shouldn't be considered a big deal its just a lifestyle. Those in the gay community want to be accepted, so in order to be accepted some need to stop sectioning themselves off from the rest of the world. Being gay is not different than being straight in my eyes. You love who you love. In order to be respected you must show respect. And by pointing the finger at anyone who utters the word "gay" and isn't a part of the gay community is reverse discrimination and will only prolong the issue.
Re: Bambitches – You just don't get it. It associates being gay with things that are crap. Young people hear it and think gay=crap. Then it's OK to treat gays like crap.
Re: Cashmere Jay – Don't…get…the…joke. Try being funny.
Re: Sonia Ingriselli – EXACTLY. EQUALITY. Not special privileges. I cannot wait for the day when the world is okay with homosexuality so everyone can REALX and stop being so politically correct.
I feel it is ok to keep in the film because it is pertaining to the character. If this was actually vince vaugn that is one thing, but he is playing a character who is a jerk. If you had a world war 2 film would the guy playing hitler be promoting world peace ?!? Absolutely not. He would still be a prejudice jerk who killed about 6 million Jewish people/Jewish supporters. You can't can't make a character something out of his description. And these characters are beneficial on how NOT to act. But I agree with taking it out of the trailer.
Leave it in! Ron Howard explained it. What's the big deal???
Of course it should be left in. If they take out every word that will insult someone, a film would be four minutes long
I personally don't use this word out of context, or to 'insult' people.
But there's no reason it should be removed from the movie, it's part of Will's character. It shows who he really is. They're not advocating the term, just being realistic.
I think they have done enough by taking it out of the trailer. I hope that one little comment doesn't have a negative impact on the film.
There is such a thing as taking the PC thing too far. It's a simple joke in a movie, I don't think it's in any way intended to insult or be derogatory to gays. When you think of what they get away with in movies just in general, (violence, etc) and no one so much as bats an eye, this is being blown way out of proportion.
Oh my gosh it's a joke!! Let's just go sensor everything then people can live in there own little bubble and not get their feelings hurt…so stupid people. Stop being so damn sensitive!!
I have to disagree with you on this one Perez. If the character in the movie is a jerk who says offensive things, who is politically incorrect on any level—than THAT FACT needs to be portrayed–how better to show a character who has flaws than to show the flaws. The fact is, the trailer showed only a small soundbyte from the movie and because what was said was out of context of the whole movie people made an assumption about the whole movie itself that might not be justified.
and you say transformers is offensive
Are you serious, L A M E? NON-ISSUE. It's a movie and there are people using that line all day, everyday, he's playing a character. This website is GAY, but I love it. Breakdown: Richie Cunnigham's article is 100% RIGHT.
I have to agree with Ron too.
We do have to protect freedom of speech but, we also need to teach our kids not to use these words to bully or in derogative ways. It starts in the home and once we establish that, then and only then can we can go and watch a film and laugh at the "jokes".
No one condones murder either, but that's okay to put in movies? It's a movie. Get over it.
SO HAPPY ITS STAYING IN THE FILM. I'm getting sick and tired of gay people demanding special treatment.
Should we take out cursing, drug use, and nudity out of movies too? You know how about if we pay $10 and stare at a blank screen for an hour and a half because that sure won't offend anyone. Blame Anderson Cooper for this nonsense
why take it out? that is fucking ridiculous! if they take that out all these dumb ass people are going to find even more lines that are "offensive". people need to grow up and stop taking EVERY god damn thing as offensive. you people are annoying. it's a damn comedy for hells sake.
PEREZ HILTON FOR CENSORSHIP!
He should TOTALLY keep it in the film! And this is coming from a major gay rights supporter and bisexual. We cannot censor art! If it is a representation of who that character is, the why should he have to remove it? You are being LAME
completely agree
Free speech is there specifically to protect what someone would consider "Offensive" speech. We dont need freedom of speech to protect polite speech, we all engage in that. We all are going to go through life being offended by something or someone..get over it.
You can't edit everything because someone is offended! I hate this PC BS! I love jokes that are offensive… because *gasp* it is a joke! As long as it doesn't come from a place of hate people need to shut it!
As a white person, I am going to picket every "black comedy" that makes a jab at white people.
No, not really, I usually laugh my ass off.
Get over it, Perez.
You can't bitch about "EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL" except the rights you don't agree with.
You're an idiot, once again.
I think maybe everyone needs to stop being so precious.
Why is there such a fuss about this 'joke'. If you don't like it then speak with your feet…walk away from the theatre and don't go and see the show.
It's funny how hypocritical Perez is. The guy who makes a living drawing cum on people's faces and making fun of kids wants a gay joke taken out a movie. Think about that for a second.
Re: xhollax – Ya, just like black people ask for special treatment not to be called the N-word.
I love Ron Howard.
Don't get too precious over your ownership of certain words, Mario. `Gay' belonged to the English language long before homsexuals assumed ownership of it as a euphemism. Being thin-skinned only makes things worse. If you're truly offended by the usage of the word in this movie, just maintain a digified silence about the movie in its entirity. To labor over it, simply gives oxygen to the presumed offence. Move on.
It's a slur. I don't see how the topic makes it any different or more/less appropriate than any other slur. His character has that type of relatively vulgar personality. That's how some people actually are. Sorry for reality.
Can we not laugh at anything anymore? It's just humor. No need to get so damn uptight about a joke, because that's what it is - a joke. If the entire movie was solely about seriously attacking gay people, then yeah, people could/should get offended.
Have some maturity people.
JasonDiggy is also a moron.
Re: pakowwww – It remains a BIG DEAL until gays get equal rights.
Ron Howard said it well, I think it should stay! It's only a movie at the end of the day, and we cant pretend that there are never any gay, racist, womenising jokes around - Sometimes I think movies can be sensored too much and can seem unrealistic! Go Ron Howard I say!
Shut the fuck up Perez. You're an asshole.
Re: JasonDiggy – Didn't you read when he said it's for adults, not kids?? Or can you not read??
I think it should be allowed to stay in the film.
Now, I don't personally use that kind of language.
But if we start taking out one thing that offends a group of people, so many things we have no aren't going to be allowed to stay in films.
How many things are there that make fun of Jewish people, Catholic people, Black people, White people, Indian people, Hispanic people.
If we take this one word out of a film, it's going to change the art forever.
How many comedy routines are completely offensive to people? Quite a lot, but I don't think that should make the comedians change their skits.
I'm gay. Fuck you Perez. Fuck you. Fuck you. FUCK YOU!!!!! I HATE YOU!!!
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It is completely appropriate to leave it in. This is a character in a movie that says a dumb thing. He's acting. Should they have cut out violence against blacks or rape or child molesters? All abhorent and all actors portraying a character to tell a story.
IT'S A FUCKING JOKE. my god. man!
i think u cant judge until u see the line in context-it could be that line is showing what kind of character he's suppose to be-everyone knows a guy like that-is it right?no-but everyone eventually realizes how bad it is to say those things-until u expose it,u cant change it
It's interesting that when Christians or religious organizations try to censor movies, music or the arts they are basically told to "get over it!", "it's just a joke", "you can't censor art!, Next we'll be burning books again!". But if it offends the gays then all of a sudden art, for art's sake, should be compromised. I thought you wanted "equal" rights, not "superior" rights. W.A.S.P.'s are made fun of on a daily basis… it's part of life…don't be such a wuss.
No one, whether a WASP nor the other kind, which are the majority, should be able to censor whatever is in the media. If censored, where does this lead to?
Blathering on and on about this stupid issue is so fucking gay!
Kudos to him for not backing down. It's a fucking movie! And you perez, are such a hypocrite talking about it's a slur, etc. Did you forget the gay slur that you threw at Will.i.am? All the nasty hateful things you say about women and girls on your website, but in your opinion it's ok, because it's not hating on gay people.
There is nothing wrong with the joke…It is funny…It's just another case of bad timing….He is not insulting Gay people, which he says in the joke…I have gay friends that find the joke funny…People are just sensitive right now, RIGHTFULLY SO….However, the joke in the context of the movie is fine…Media is just blowing things out of proportion as usual…
funny how anderson cooper (he started all this nonsense) takes offense to the comment in the movie, but dude won't come out of the closet.
wasnt going to see it anyway but now for sure not going to see it
oh this is so dumb. no one says anything when anyone cracks jokes about women or cracks jokes about certain races but when it's about gays then it's wrong? calm down. it's just a joke!
Oh, just chill out queen. Just like you tell the rest of us, is art, is a joke, don't get your panties all tied up…
He's playing a character, get over it! I love gays support em all the way but it's not like it's real life. i haven't seen it but his character is kind of an idiot so it shouldn't be a problem, RIGHT?
Re: JasonDiggy – I feel sad for you, you're so trapped by your homosexuality that you've forgotten how to laugh at yourself. You're so bound by one word that at the sound of it you take fear and forget how to live. I doubt that when people realized that n*gger was in the movie Inglorious bastards that they stood up and walked out of the theater or more relevantly the word bitch in almost every modern day movie. This evening a group of homosexual teenagers came to my house trick or treating yelling all types of profanities and most exclusively that word bitch…a word that is offensive to me…yet I took the route to live and let live. I'm not advocating jokes about ones sexual choice but I am advocating live and let live. In a society where who you are is a decision now…we are no longer born any way. A man can chose to be a woman and vice versa an african american can take on skin lightening procedures and Caucasian person can go to a tanning salon.
Re: JasonDiggy – A catholic can convert to judaism and a woman can chose to have a long term fulfilling relationship with a man or a woman. You have to come to a point where vince vaughn reading a script in a movie in front of a camera doesn't matter. It's another joke. It's another movie…not a personal attack on the homosexual community. I'm a 24 y/o black straight woman who happens to be a detriot lions fan… personally and this is my own opinion and I do not represent the entire demographic of 24 y/o black females… if the homosexual community is going to continue to compare their battle of "who i fuck is my own fucking business" to the crusade of being born a woman or a black person…I advise you all get a thicker skin and realize these jokes aren't going anywhere. Learn to laugh…learn to live
Omg in the 80's everyone said thats gay and it meant stupid!! Can we please get over this!!!
Opie rules!!
Come on Perez !
I understand that they have to take out the joke. But not in the movie ! If you don't like that kind of joke, you don't go to see the movie. Simply as that ! It's not like they were homophobic ^^
And? Movies have offensive jokes about groups of people all the time. Get over it. Most people are against censorship… unless it's under THEIR circumstances.
Oh Get over it, Perez. Political correctness will be the downfall of this friggin country once and for all. Being a bully is one thing, telling a joke in a friggin movie is quite the other. It's called artistic license. Do you yourself NOT poke fun and joke about, um, EVERYSINGLETHING and PERSON????? You've even gone as far to call people out of their closet be they gay or not. You are a HUGE hypocrit. I used to ADORE this site… but you have become this annoying, whiney, bratty, little politcally-correct-only-when-it-befits-you MONSTER. Life is life. Sometimes it's great and sometimes it sucks. A friggin joke in a movie is NORMAL. It has no representation of who is behind the movie… it's a movie. Next you'll be into banning books too. Loser.
Again, we see movies with racism, violence, women getting battered, children getting killed, jokes about people of all religions, ethnicities, fat jokes, friggin BLOND jokes… but all that's fine. You're gay. Gays who get bullied kill themselves. Therefore, all gay jokes are the work of satan and will promote gay violence and bullying and the taking of one's life. Please. The problem with society is that we care too much what others say and do. Live and let live is UNIVERSAL. Long live tolerance for JOKES of all cruelities.
Re: DANNYGLOVERSDICKBLOOD –
Amen and good for you. Perez is such a whiney bitch.
Re: NoTalentBlogger –
Brilliant. He'd be SOOOOO much better off there. Like they'd let the idiot even have a blog. Please.
Re: JasonDiggy –
Get over yourself. The point is there should be no censorship. It's a friggin movie. Do you believe in book banning too? We get we get it we get it already.
Re: Jordan Laesch –
An uneducated one at that.
Re: meggles – Very well said. I second all you said.
this whole situation is gay.
Ron Howard is the only stand-up man in hollywood and does not bow to the pressure of these hypocritical aholes. Good for you!!!!
If someone insults you to your face get mad otherwise let them keep their issues and move on. Life is so much fun. Don't spend all you time worrying about what other people think; especially people you dont even know.
We'll all be on the gurney in the end. Lighten up Millenia, Gen Y's, Gen Xer's, and Boomers (you're the one's who've over regulated everything), and the best pre Boomers, & Depression Era Babies, who made this country what it is. The others need to take note, god you take your young selves so seriously.