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Exploring Israel: Part 5

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Our favorite day in Israel thus far!

On Thursday, we had the true privilege and pleasure to fully immerse ourselves in the magical city that is Old Jerusalem.

So special - for Judaism, Christianity AND Islam!

Whatever you believe in, it's undeniable that so many people believe in the special place that is this city, and where there is so much believing - there is energy.

The energy is so strong in Jerusalem. We could literally feel it and it brought us to tears at the Western Wall, the most holy place in all of Judaism.

We believe in believing. We believe in energy. We believe in love. We believe in tradition, and - yes - we put a little piece of paper with some big thoughts on them in that Wall.

Prayers/dreams/wishes/desires/needs.

We hope they come true!

Thankfully, there were several Bar Mitzvah celebrations at the Western Wall when we were there. Being surrounded by that joy was great!

We choose to focus on the positive and hope that peace can really exist one day in all these regions - and all over the world too.

Jerusalem is such a fascinating city. It's been built and destroyed and built and destroyed countless times.

There is history upon history buried here. Yet it all comes to the surface in places like the Church Of The Holy Sepulcher, which we were able to visit. A church unlike any other we had ever seen before!

Exemplifying the beautiful chaos that is found here, the Holy Sepulcher is divided on the inside into sections for the the Greek Orthodox Church, the Roman Catholic Church and the Armenian Church.

Everybody gets a piece!

Though it's been around for centuries before Christ, parts of Old Jerusalem are not very old at all, like the Jewish quarter, much of which was destroyed during war last century. It was fascinating to see, though, the remnants from the ancient times in the Cardo marketplace, which were found during excavations when the Jewish Quarter was being rebuilt.

We strolled along the stations of the cross and the Via Dolorosa.

We visited the Garden Of Gethsemane and the Church of All Nations.

We paid a visit to the local bazaars and markets.

We viewed the city from Mount Zion and just soaked it all in as much as we could.

Jerusalem! Just wow.

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84 comments to “Exploring Israel: Part 5”



  1. 1

    Hey jackass, Jerusalem is not a magical city, is a religious mecca. Quit confusing Disney with historical places. And by the way, you seem to hate a lot of stuff that religion stands for so what the fuck are you doing there?



  2. 2

    Its a great city for the Abrahamic religions .But wow Perez its nice to see your spiritual side, seems like you learned alot.



  3. 3

    This is a really nice entry, Perez. You seem to have a true grasp on what the Holy City is all about; not fighting and separation, but coming together in understanding and tolerance. Props!



  4. 4

    Its like its the first time Mario learns about these places lol. All of this stuff is common knowledge



  5. 5

    SORRY I DON'T BUY IT..perez has obiously been paid by the israel tourist board to say that..your so thick perez, always about $$$ with u!



  6. 6

    tape those moobies down man………..get them shits under control………



  7. 7

    Mazel tov bubby



  8. 8

    Tradition of violence.



  9. 9

    Damn…You are one FUGLY family. How dare say anything negative about anyone else looking the way you do…Lay of the food and try to find yourself a salad.



  10. 10

    That is fantastic Perez! I know what you mean about energy for sure. Whenever I go to new orleans i am absolutely filled with it. It is so wonderful when you can finally get away from the day to day and truly tap into your inner self. Have a wonderful journey and truly magical experience.



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    Yeah, that blue hoodie is not doing you any favors at all. Oh, and is that your "somber" face? I DO think it's bizarre that you're spending all this time in Egypt and Israel. For the record, for you to be a "Jewban", it would require you to be an actual Jewish Cuban, which you are not. Stop insulting, even indirectly, a nation that chances are doesn't give two shits about the fact that you are there.



  12. 12

    PEREZ THIS IS THE BEST THING YOU HAVE EVERRRRRRRRRR WRITTEN……………



  13. 13

    You look like a freak. A fat, flabby, FREAK! Oh yeah, and FUCK YOU!!!



  14. 14

    perez, as a long time reader of your site i am angry and offended that your are plastering your pictures and blogging about your trip to israel. As a jew myself, I think it is very disrespectul to post pictures of you gooifing off in such holy places, especially at the Western Wall. With all your ranting about respecting people, religions, choices, ect; that you would act more civl than this.



  15. 15

    Did you run into Mel Gibson in the Jewish Quarter?



  16. 16

    Perez, I think that you are blessed for being able to visit the Holy land and I think it only makes it better knowing that you took your Mom to share this experience with you.

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    Re: bryanlizza – Sweetie…stop being a hater. He said it perfectly. I've been to Israel myself..have you? get a FCKN life and stop stalking perez and going on his site and then talking shit. If you hate him then find another site to go on, p.s. ur ugly!

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    Re: beachgal2 – GET A LIFE> I'm jewish I've been to Israel. Find something more important to bitch about…what a loser u are

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    Re: RUReallySerious?? – WOW u really are pathetic. I dont know Perez but I am so disturbed by how ugly people are INSIDE such as yourself. A true loser like you WOULD comment on peoples appearance and you are clearly a hideous creature inside and out. Get a fucking life

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    Re: suzyelizabeth – SUZY ELIZABETH?? RU KIDDING> U are scary looking you have a white trash name and you're talking shit about Perez? Stop going on his BLOG U IDIOT..u hate him? You're offended? Find a fucking job or hobby or get laid..anything to shut ur loser face up

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    Re: sonicdahedgehog – ur a complete loser who sits online and offends ppl..kill urself..can I try to trade u in with Kurt cobain? Cant believe ppl like him are gone and SCUM like you lives



  22. 22

    It's been built and destroyed and built and destroyed countless times.

    Countless times? Er… I don't think so.
    Twice only.
    Good God, books are there to be read.



  23. 23

    No one gives a fuck about your israel trip you damned butt pirate.



  24. 24

    You are one ugly m***** f*****! Your freakin head is HUGE!



  25. 25

    Perez there is An armenian community that lives there. Go see if you find them. The priest at the church the majority are armenians. Go sheck them out!!!



  26. 26

    My dad was born in Jersusalem, So was his father and his grandfather and his greatgrandfather. I wasn't born there because when my dad was a young boy he and his family were kicked out of their homes, along with countless other palestinians who have lived there for centuries. My dad never went back there, neither did his sisters or brothers, because they weren't allowed to. To this day, I dream that someday I could visit to see where my family comes from. The Israeli invasion is so unfair.



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    Hey Loo,
    I don't think you can be calling people losers, and saying that they sit at they're computers all day when you are doing JUST THAT. Go try picking up a book or something, moron. Quit leaving hypocritical comments everywhere, you're just embarrassing yourself…



  28. 28

    Good to see you are having fun and enjoying the holy land, Perez! Stay safe and Have a Happy New Year! Thanks for sharing your pics with us. I doubt I'll ever get over there so it's nice to see the sights through your very enthusiastic eyes.



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    Re: sonicdahedgehog – Now I realize middle school is on break, but don't you have better things to do. Run along now and go play, silly child.



  30. 30

    You didn't write this. You can't string two sentences together.



  31. 31

    I have also been to Jerusalem, and cried my eyes out. I'm not a really religious person, more spiritual, and from the moment I touched the wall I was overcome with emotion and spirituality. I'm glad this was your favorite day! As amazing and fun as Tel Aviv, Haifa and Safed are, many overlook Jerusalem.
    Love you Perez!

    PS- did you get a chance to go to Rosh Hanikra (sp?) in the north?? The mediterranean, cliffs and caves there are the most breathtaking place I have ever been. Never in my life have I seen such vivid blues and greens in the water



  32. 32

    i am disgusted by all your posts and pictures of the terrorist state of Israel. No mention of the huge wall barricading Palestine. While you are over there why dont you find a minute to ask someone there why they think it is ok to bulldoze over Palestinians homes and/or force them out into the streets to take their homes as your own? Ask someone why they continue with thier ILLEGAL settlements in Palestine. Disgusting zionist country.



  33. 33

    When you wrote our prayer for the wall, did you ask God to make the israelis stop tormenting and mistreating the Palestinians ?



  34. 34

    An old but relevant joke… no disrespect intended

    In Jerusalem, an English female journalist heard about an old rabbi who visited the Wailing Wall to pray, twice a day, everyday, for a long, long time.

    In an effort to check out the story, she goes to the holy site and there he is!

    She watches the bearded old man at prayer–and after about 45 minutes, when he turns to leave, she approaches him for an interview.

    Im Jane Collins from the BBC, sir, how long have you been coming to the Wailing Wall and praying? For about 50 years, he informs her.

    50 years! Thats amazing! What do you pray for?

    I pray for peace between the Jews and the Christians and the Muslims. I pray for all the hatred to stop and I pray for all our children to grow up in safety and friendship.

    And how do you feel, sir, after doing this for 50 years?

    Like Im talking to a brick wall.



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    Religion is retarded.

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    Re: bitchinblack
    I sympathize with you =/ I've lived in Jerusalem for 18 years but I'm studying in England at the moment but I come back every two months for my residency. The moment I stop studying though, if I seek a job outside of Jerusalem or Israel as a matter of fact, they might pull my residency and I won't be able to enter Israel again. My uncle and his family recently lost their residencies because of this, they won't be able to get back =/ Funny, my uncle was born and bred in Jerusalem…

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    To be honest, I am a complete Jerusalem girl (my heart will always belong to this city), and you've missed the best part by skipping Damascus gate and Mamilla. But I think your whole visit to Israel is a bit weird. People from all over the world travel to this region on Christmas to go to Bethlehem, you know, where Jesus was born, and you barely mention any Christian religious sites, just as a passing note..

    Also a bit interesting you didn't go to Gay park!



  38. 38

    Thanks for sharing! It's so beautiful and yet the message is powerful. That is on my to do list of places to go. Enjoy!



  39. 39

    such hate-filled comments exemplify the misunderstanding and complete lack of education of the middle-east situation. you have completely captured what the true essence of jerusalem for people of all religions, spiritualities and backgrounds. enjoy the rest of your time in this vibrant and historical country!



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    Dear Perez!
    Thank you so much for writing all your wonderful comments about Jerusalem. It is truly a blessed and magical city. I am so glad you and your mother are having such a wonderful time in the Middle East. It is a part of this world that needs all the love and support from every human being.
    Love, schapoopie :-)



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    The terrorist organization known as Israel, with its long-standing history of racial prejudice and ethnic cleansing, will be expurgated from the face of Planet Earth. Trust!



  42. 42

    That post was filled with useless banter… E.x. "We believe in believing"… Hahaha is that supposed to be deep? I actually got goosebumps reading this.
    Hey at least you're not jumping like an asshole this time….



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    Re: bryanlizza – Vulgar lady.



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    Mario I was touched by your report on your tour to the holy land and especially Jerusalem. Sounds like something deep is stirring in you kid! I'm 61 and haven't made it there yet…next year in Jerusalem. I don't visit the site much but it was good to check in and read your terrific update. All the best and happy year.



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    Re: kiptere – Yes someone does! Perez cares enough to share his new insights. Lighten up.



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    Re: dominic456 – God has surprises for each of us child. Let go of the hate, it'll get you nowhere, and 'nowhere' is HELL. We're all standing at the edge of the abyss, we either begin a civil dialoque or the carpet's going to be rolled up. In an instant we will stand before God and answer for our choices.
    Resist hate, choose love. The Moshiach is on His way. Turn to God (love) and Shalom! You are precious in G-d's site.



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    Re: LeenB – Yeah, it's like they make it almost impossible for any Palistinian to stay there, in hopes that one day no Palestinians would be left. I know many families who have stayed there since the invasion and have never left. Must be extremely difficult, depressing, and limiting. But then again, I understand why some are afraid to leave. Simply for that same reason. All I can say is, Karma is a bitch. I'm hoping to live to see the day when this nightmare ends.

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    Aww. I can read that. "I wish @v@ lived next door and we were real life buddies."



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    i bet Perez wished for many more teen boys this year!! pedo!!



  50. 50

    Did they let you go take a look at their 200 nuclear warheads?



  51. 51

    LOVE IT! this is amazing. i'm so happy you're there and loving it.

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    Re: bitchinblack
    Exactly, they always try to drive Palestinians out of this country, they don't even grant residency to spouses when someone from Jerusalem happens (that's what happened with my aunt, she married a Jerusalemite and now they have to live in a 'specific zone' because of their situation). It's shocking that a Russian or an American or an Ethiopian who has never set foot in this country before automatically enjoy all privileges and citizenship while Palestinians are treated more or less as stateless people. I just hope one day the situation wouldn't be like this and Palestinians would be able to return to their homeland.



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    Re: bryanlizza – Jerusalem is as mecca? So you mean to say that Israel should evacuate all the Arabs and let no Christian come and visit?
    Have you ever tried to travel to mecca? Keep your head over your shoulders!
    Jerusalem is the craddle of Judaism and Christianity. Muslims are praying towards mecca.



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    Re: kiptere – Speak only for yourself! Many people are interesting in Perez trip to Israel !!!!!



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    Re: LeenB – You should understant for once that Israel is a democracy and not as the Falsetinian authority. The way the US doesn't give green catrds and even visas to everyone the way Israel let people have ID cards!



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    Your watermelon size head is pushing the limits of that hood my friend!

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    Re: AbeBied
    I know a Jew who went to Mecca. He was absolutely hilarious, hid his kippa under a hat. LOL. But yes, Jerusalem is very important to Muslims, because that's where Muhammad prayed for the first time.

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    Re: AbeBied
    No, Israel is an ethnocracy. Huge difference. It is illegal to hang Palestinian flags, illegal to mention the Nakbeh, which could result in a fine or arrestment. It is democratic for jews, not Palestinians. Actually, even Jews are having difficulty with the Israeli state. I know a Jewish writer who can be a bit anti-zionist… many times the state of Israel tried to deport him because they labelled him as a traitor.

    Wow, so thoughtful of the Israeli government to give IDs to those who have been living in this city for generations on end.



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    I think it is such a shame that you have not mentioned anything about the rich Palestinian history or the people still living there. I hope that before you leave you will not miss this, you have the privilege of visiting a land that over 4 million displaced people cannot. At least acknowledge them.



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    Good for you Perez - loved the pics and your report - it would be great to see more of this side of you and not the side that sucks up to vacuous celebs like Angelina Jolie - in this post you come accross as an intelligent and interesting man rather than a complete brown nosing twat x

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    Re: maxie pad – Lol. What warheads? La la la la la la la…



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    nice moobs, butterface



  63. 63

    nice boobs, butterface



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    Preez, good for you. No one can doubt what you felt at the Western Wall. It is different for each person. It's a spiritual journey between you and God.



  65. 65

    Oy, a Mexican at the Wailing Wall - I'm surprised God himself didn't come down and smite you.



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    LeenB –Jews and Christians can’t visit Mecca if they want to stay alive. You as a Muslim can visit Israel aand Jerusalem any time you want (unless you don’t carry a bomb under your bra). Muhammad never had been to Jerusalem and even if he were there that doesn’t make that city an Islamic one or belong to Muslims.
    Israel is a democracy in any standart. All citizens are equal, but Muslim are more – they don’t have the obligation to protect Israel and secure her. Theocracy in apart from politics although the politics have some religious Muslims, Christians and Jews delegates.
    Palestinian flags wave over some Arab towns, Arabs mention the Falsetinian Nakba anytime they please and the Jews that laugh for this as being heard a good joke. And of caurse you don’t know any Jewish writer that Israel tried to deport for being “a traitor”, because there is no one that fit to your desire.

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    Re: AbeBied
    Actually, no. One of my old teachers, who was Jewish, managed a visit to Mecca. I have no idea how he did it, but he did. You don't get killed if you got to Mecca. That is not entirely true, although you are painting the conflict in a religious way, which is not. Alot of my family members cannot visit Jerusalem or Israel soley based on the fact they are Palestinian. Furthermore, Muhammad as a miracle went to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is not Islamic but it is special to muslims because it was the first place where people started praying towards to.
    Israel is an ethnocracy, once more. Azmi Bishara, an Israeli citizen was deported because they did not like his politics. Arab parties were banned from elections and about the whole Palestinian flag thing, well I've head friends on airports getting their palestinian stuff confiscated (palestinian bracelets) and been told they have been infiltrated by Hamas.
    And yes I have, I know him personally and the Israelis have been tried to deport him and his family for a while. Although they have good relations with the right wing Israelis, and often try to prevent them from being deported.

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    Re: AbeBied
    Also, Noam Chomsky was denied entry into Israel. He is Jewish, and an intellectual… So, what the hell? It's because he can be quite outspoken about Israel's actions.
    Just skim over Haaretz' opinion headtitles and you will see alot of liberals and Israeli intellectuals are feeling that Israel is becoming quite undemocratic.



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    I love seeing your pictures of Jerusalem! I live in Jerusalem and am a tour guide/student here. I love seeing people enjoy the richness of the city. I hope whoever is guiding you is showing you how great this city can be.



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    I want to add to this ridiculous argument people are having over the legitimacy of Israel by saying a couple of things. 1. Israel was established after years of being under a foreign rule (i.e Ottoman Empire and British mandate). There was no established country of Palestine. another historical fact is that in 1948 a two state solution was proposed. The Jewish leadership approved the version, the Palestinian leadership did not. 2. until the 1967 war the Arabs had control over the entire old city and did not allow a non-Muslim person to enter it. The pope wasn't allowed into the old city.
    3. The real problem for the Palestinians is the extremists who use violence to argue their points and the Palestinian leadership distribute wealth where some Palestinians control all the money that organizations donate, while others live in near poverty. There are also many Muslims, like those in the Abu Gosh village outside of Jerusalem who support Israel and even join its Army and other civil service jobs.



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    There are problems in every country. The French government has decided that Muslims and Jews alike are no longer allowed to wear any head covering or any other distinctive religious symbol. That is a breech of democracy. Spain historically threw out and murdered MILLIONS of Muslims. Are they forgiven now? Israel is a complex country. If you have family who are being treated sub-parely, I as a Jewish Zionist am sorry that they have had a bad experience. we're trying to get it together but have been too busy trying to exist to work on its intricacies. Maybe one day we can live side-by-side in peace. Maybe instead of attacking Israel, you can help make it a better place to live. That is what I am trying to do. Writing on gossip websites (and I realize I am doing the same but I am doing it because I Really do not want to write my paper for my class) will only get you so far.



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    That little blue sweater makes me want to slap you!

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    Re: superchickie
    The problem is when Israel was established, only 11% of the population was in fact Jewish, they were the minority. The Zionist ideology has an inaccurate description of the whole idea of Israel saying "It is a land without people for a people without a land", meaning they refuse the recognize the existance of the indeginious people. There were no established Arab countries until the rule of colonization ended, however this does not mean they did not exist, as a region. If you read Middle Eastern history, they always refer to this region as Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, etc. They existed, however under imperial rule. Hell Algeria gain its first independent state well after 1960s, does that mean it 'did not exist'. No.
    Furthermore, there were problem arising with the 2 state resolution because they gave half of the land to 11% of the population, which is understandable. You have to understand, most of these Jews were not indeginous to Palestine, they were Germans, Americans, Polish. They were not Jewish Arabs, they were simply foreigners.

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    Re: superchickie
    Well that would be a bit odd, consideringt he Old city has an Armenian quarter, a Jewish quarter and a Christian Quarter, and they've had that since years and year on end. so no, I do not believe that is true in any way. Plus I do remember a 100 years ago the Holy Sepricle Church and the Christian quarter was under the protectrate of European powers, so that makes no sense at all.

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    Re: superchickie
    Furthermore, the real problem is not Palestinians using violence, because you must remember Palestine does not have a military, and their only form of resistance is throwing rocks and building bombs. I am not advocating the bombs, however they are complete joke if you compare them to Israeli weaponry. Actually they are like fireworks when you compare them to a Nuclear arsenal, F-16s, white phosphorous and so on. If you see under the new governance of the current prime minister, Ramallah has become a metropolis boasting a new found economy, so that is also not true. Nevertheless, you only have Israel to blame for the poverty Palestinians experiencing, with what Gaza is literally a prison, the wall coasting many Palestinians to lose their jobs, as well as the Intifada harmed the economy majorly. Furthermore, Muslims in Abu Ghosh (why do you keep making it about religion, it's pissing me off, you should hear the Armenians bitch about Israel), do not join the army, I believe you are talking about the Druze. THe people in Abu Ghosh tend to support Azmi Bishara (google him) and the political party Balad, and I know this because I know many people from Abu Ghosh.

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    Re: superchickie
    sigh, the problem is, you really don't understand. I cna only argue so much, but as a Permanent Resident of Jerusalem (can't even get a normal classification), there is not much I can do. I argue with knowledge and if it gets one person to open their eyes and immerse themselves in more studies like I have, then that is enough. I do realize this is a gossip blog, but I am all for a healthy debate every now and then.
    See the problem is you think people are attacking Israel for the sake of it, but because people have been pushed over to the edge by the conflict, the settlements, the wall, and everything else that comes with the conflict people do what they do. Watch a few documentaries, talk to a couple of people, it will open up your eyes. By the way, I do the exact same thing with Israelis, i've got 2 old classmates in the Israeli army (they are both Jewish Israelis) and it is interesting to get their perspective. I heavily doubt we can live side by side if settlements continue to flourish and that asshole of Netanyahu is still prime minister.



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    you have followed in the very footsteps i walked just this past october. israel is transformational and affirming. so much history and so awesome to stand among ruins that are thousands of years old. it is truly as if one is "walking the bible." thanks for the wonderful descriptions and words that bring it all back making me long for my return to this pulsating, alive country that these wonderful, creative people, the israeli's, have brought to such barren land. they and their country are truly a MIRACLE!!!



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    Re: bitchinblack – Is it really impossible for Palestinians to stay in Israel? If was so impossible, why would 78% of Arab Israelis including those living in East Jerusalem prefer to live in Israel than any other country in the world, including Palestine, when it hopefully becomes a country one day. Unfortunately, there is discrimination in Israel, just like there is in every other country in the world. But, Arabs in Israel have more freedoms and rights than in most Arab countries in the world. Arab women and men also serve in the highest forms in government including the Supreme Court, hold high positions in universities and companies.



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    Re: bitchinblack – Israeli invasion? The U.N. partioned Palestine, where both Arabs and Jews lived, into two states in 1947. The Jews accepted, the Arabs didn't and on the eve of Israel's Independence attacked the newly founded country of Israel. The Palestinians became refugees because of the war, not because Israel was founded. If the Arab countries hadn't attacked than the Palestinians would have their own country called Palestine and wouldn't be refugees. The Palestinian refugee crisis is tragic, but it could have been solved years ago. 1) If the Arab countries and Palestinians had accepted a Palestinian side living side-by-side with Israel in peace 2) If the Arab countries took in the Palestinian refugees just like Israel took in all of the Jewish refugees from Europe and the Middle East.



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    Re: LeenB – Israel is indeed a democractic country —
    Arabs can vote in elections, have freedom of press, religion and speech just like in other democratic countries. Arabs hold key positions in government and Arabs also represent Israel abroad as official ambassadors abroad. Salim Joubran has served as a supreme court justice since 2003, Majalli Whbee, was deputy minister of foreign affairs. Arabs also serve in high positions in the Israeli police and on regional councils. There are even Arab members of parliament who call for Israel's destruction and support terrorists. You can say that Arabs, as Israel's minority population, do face some discrimination as minorities do in many countries all over the world (and the discrimination should end), but you can't say that Israel's not a democracy.
    While hanging Palestinians flags and mentioning the Nakba may be illegal, the law hasn't been enforced. My husband is a police officer and instructor in the police school in Shfaram and says that no one in the police enforces these laws and people are not arrested for hanging Palestinian flags. He and his colleagues see Palestinian flags in protests in Tel Aviv, and around East Jerusalem and Arab villages in Israel all the time, but never arrest people holding them or request they be taken down. However, the flags of Hamas and Hezbollah are definitely illegal in Israel because those groups are hostile to Israel and seek Israel's destruction.

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    Re: Michali1
    Where do you get this statistic? Every Arab Israeli more or less has bitter feelings towards Israel, I've only once encountered one Arab who described himself as Israeli but still sometimes flips over and starts to be all Arab. Also Arabs in Israel do not have freedom more than any other place in the Arab world. Just ask Azmi Bishara. Yeah, they get to serve in higher places, yet in the end, they get banned from elections and end up being deported despite the fact they are Israeli citizens. Also there was a short documentary called Targeted Citizen, you should watch it. Very enlightening about the discrimination that Arab Israelis face.

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    Re: Michali1
    Not all Arabs can, those who have permanent residency status, cannot. Furthermore if arabs arguablly do something that Israel does not like such a 'treason' as with the case of Azmi Bishara, they are deported. Arab parties were banned from Knesset elections. I suggest you watch the documentary Targeted Citizen, (you can search it on google), and see the discrimination that Arabs face. I have studied politics and ethnocracy by definition is showing favorism to other ethnicities, as with the case of Israel. I've been studying politics for a while and have read alot of books concerning the middle east, and alot of thema rgue that Israel is an ethnocratic state because by its definition it is a 'Jewish State'. That alone is ethnocratic. Just go read Haaretz and you will see I'm not the only one whose claiming Israel is heading for non-democracy.
    Sure it might not be enforced all the time, but some of my friends had their palestinian stuff confiscated on the airport, Palestinian bracelots with the flag and all and have been told they have been infiltrated by Hamas. So yes, there are both arguements to the same issue.

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    Re: Michali1
    Erm, yes. because most of the people who were part of the new Jewish nation were immigrants, let's be honest. Ofcourse the Jews were going to accept it, 11% of the population was going to get more than half of it, why wou;dn't they accept it? The Arabs rejected it because they have been promised by the British Mandate that they would have a sovereign nation during the MacMahon-Hussein correspondance. Furthermore, you are suddenly augmenting the Jewish population with American, German, Polish, Russian immigrants who have no previous attachments to this land, while the Palestinians who have been living there for centuries are told to condensate their land to make room for other immigrants. It's sort of like you are sharing a house, 8 of 10 of your flatmates are Arabs and 2 are Jewish. Suddenly you get the landlord telling you, right from now on 8 of you are not going to share 3 rooms out of 10 in the house because we are making room for 5 new Jewish tenants. Man if my landlord did that to me, I am sure as hell going to be pissed off.



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    Wow, unnecessary controversy here from peop! There's a bottom line truth here - it's a Holy place for many, many people—people with any variety of religious beliefs. Take it or leave it, no need for arguments on that one, right?