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The First Two Years Of College Are A Waste

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Think back now, if you will, to your freshman year of college. Remember the hookups and the late-night parties. Remember waking up at 1 in the afternoon and then hitting up the dining hall for all the free food you could eat. In between all the partying and overeating, do you actually remember any of the classes you took that year? Don't lie because we know the truth - you don't.

Researchers have learned that after two years in college, 45% of students showed no significant gains in learning! That's pretty much HALF of everyone who went for their bachelor's degree.

But don't just blame yourselves, freshman. Sure, your brains are more fixated on socializing and getting laid in your first few years of higher learning, but maybe if you had some better motivation, you'd study more. The study conducted to gauge these results also found that teachers tend to be more "focused on their own faculty research than teaching younger students."

For shame, educators! Don't you guys take an oath or something!

But things don't get all that better as time goes on either. After four years of school, 36% of the original 45% that didn't learn anything showed little change.

Obviously, universities are making real winners out this generation. Money well spent parents of America.

Thank goodness the apocalypse is coming.

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50 comments to “The First Two Years Of College Are A Waste”

  1. 1

    That is incorrect !!!! The first two years of college, I was wasted. : )

  2. 2

    After two years of university here in England, I have only ever learnt something from one module, which ran for about 3 weeks. It seems completely useless. Well, apart from the paper that will get you a better job, unless someone who went straight into a job in that field and has more experience than you is up against you that is.

  3. 3

    This doesn't surprise me at all. My first two years of college were totally worthless except for the prereqs for my major classes…

  4. 4

    This is an absolutely disgusting generalization. Frankly my sophomore year of college was my best year collectively. My best stand alone semester was my Freshman 2nd semester. Junior and Senior year were spent balancing everything social, extra-curricular and academic. I learned a hell of a lot in college, and it's gross that you would even say parents are wasting their money.

    Speaking of money, most people I know have little to no parental financial support for college. Maybe this study should get their facts together and be a little more credible than just "researchers." Total garbage.

  5. 5

    As a college professor who earned a Ph.D. in my field, I'd strongly recommend that you stick to your day job, Perez. That's celeb gossip. You're in no position to present research findings on academe without proper interpretation of results.

  6. 6

    Sure, 45% of students didn't show change, but 55%, THE MAJORITY, did learn things their freshman and sophomore years. This entire post makes you sound like a d!ck, Perez.

  7. 7

    Good to know that I have a $100,000 degree and graduated two years ago, and JUST now got a job in advertising (not even what i went to school for). I shouldn't be complaining. There are many people who are unemployed. But the fact is, if universities are charging and arm and a leg for a degree and we aren't even getting jobs….whats the point in school anymore? I've had people with more experience (and no degree) beat me out at jobs. Hmm….makes me re-think a lot of things.

  8. 8

    Oh, that explains a lot!

  9. 9

    This applies to many, but not all college students. I started college right out of high school, but didn't finish. When I did go back, 15 years later, I looked around me and thought "what a bunch of freaking idiots." Believe me, you can get a college degree and still be a moron. Those are the ones who are in a fog of partying and natural ignorance all the time. Some of the most intelligent people I know never went to college. It has to do with a desire to learn. Most college students don't have this. They just see it as a way to make money after they graduate.

  10. 10

    most of the classes are needed to be able to understand the next two years. i graduated a month ago and don't remember ANY of my classes!

  11. 11

    I like how perez just says "reasearchers have learned".
    Obviously Perez didn't go to college…because one of the first things you learn in English 101 is how to correctly cite your source.

    Although it is no surprise to college-educated people that some idiot with no college education is sitting there bashing the system he was never a part of.

  12. 12

    Actually, I took a lot of important classes my first two years, and have not only retained a great deal of what I learned, but will be using it in grad school as well. Wanna know why? Because I actually studied and worked instead of nonstop partying. Not everyone decided to waste the privilege of attending college. I knew I was very lucky to be able to get such a good education. Yes, I went out with my friends and we had our share of fun. But at the end of the day I knew what my responsibilities were. Not every college student lives like they're in a pathetic Judd Apatow movie.

  13. 13

    This is nothiing, really. A recent study gove high school seniors a history test, then they gave the same test to the students when they were college seniors. The test showed that they performed better when they were in high school.

    When you consider how poor our primary education system is, that is really stunning. As the child of two public high school teachers, I know we spend too much time on politically correct social engineering and too little on the basics of learning facts. Once you get into college you spend more time on the ridiculous left wing ruminations and theories of your crackpot professors than you do on learning.

  14. 14

    Sooooo True, worthless coarses and subjects that no one will ever use.
    A huge waste of money but you have to attend. Otherwise it's would you like fries with that!

  15. 15

    "money well spent parents of america" WTF PEREZ?? first of all, most people i know, including me, pay for our education ourselves, very rarely do i get any support from my family.
    you should go to college perez, youre proof that this study is bullshit.

  16. 16

    well the first two years are mostly pointless gen-ed classes.

  17. 17

    I really think you should rethink the last part of this post…"Obviously, universities are making real winners out this generation." I'm in college right now and if one thing is CERTAIN its that professors are only a small part of what college is about…its up to the STUDENTS to learn and do well and make themselves winners for this generation. The blame is on the students for ALLOWING themselves to do nothing significant with their college experience, and in the long run they will be the blame to any negativities in this generation. The people in that 45% should really grow up

  18. 18

    oh and the picture…worthless? I'm pretty sure the ONLY way to get a decent paying job in this country is to get a degree, except for free loaders like you who make a living off of gossiping about people which is not something to be proud of

  19. 19

    Perez, i LOVE you!

    you're so funny. the way you ended that post. oh, goodness.
    thanks for the chuckle! :)

  20. ka.06 says – reply to this


    I wouldn't say that the first two years of my time in college was a complete waste. Pre-requisites are essential in understanding higher level material. I think it has to do with the liberal studies requirement. I know here in Florida, unless they changed the Gordon rule requirement, it was a complete and total waste of my time and money taking humanities/history classes when my major is Biomathematics.

  21. 21

    Uh, why are we blaming the universities for the fact that they are filled with lazy, boozing slack-asses?? No professor, no matter how talented they are, can MAKE a kid wanna learn anything. The motivation lies with the individual, and unfortunately, the college-age kids these days were already wastes of space before they set foot inside a college classroom. My first 2 years of college were great, because I actually had an iota of personal responsibility. I buckled down and worked hard, and I actually LOST weight rather than gained it.

  22. 22

    ah college in america must be heaven you can attempt different classes and only AFTER that you decide what major you wil be getting, also not to forget the "answer system" multiple choice isntead of actually write stuff ! you dont need a brain to "study" there

  23. 23

    I agree 100% with the results of this study. I would like to note that although what we learn in university is easily forgotten, the practice of presentations, writing papers, etc, help the brain develop BIG TIME. I'm currently working on my masters, and I can't even remember half the courses I took, but can say I think MUCH more critically then I used to and my communication skills (presentation/vocabulary, etc) have improved dramatically. I attribute university education to this and figure that's why most companies require a degree, even though they don't care what degree it actually is!!

  24. 24

    Re: Whoaaa – worthless "coarses"? dude, why don't you take a class in spelling!

  25. 25

    Well, when many of the instructors are making less than the secretaries, what do you expect? Like Wall Street, administration is too focused on making money, not producing an education. Drink on!

  26. 26

    Taking an English class yourself wouldn't hurt considering the way you write.

  27. 27

    Well, I think it depends on the profs and your learning environment. You can't generalize how everyone learns, asshole.

  28. 28

    Re: hader99 – "Believe me, you can get a college degree and still be a moron."
    Oh man, that's the best. If you stitched this onto a pillow or T-shirt I would totally buy it.

  29. Dusss says – reply to this


    Posting this only confirms that Perez never made it past the first two years of college

  30. 30

    Did anyone stop and think that college isn't solely about learning facts, but how to balance life and survive in the world? In high school, you have teachers that will chase you down for a paper, call your parents if you don't do your work, etc. In college, the professor doesn't give a crap if you fail or your mom wont get a phone call if you don't turn in a paper. You learn to balance your social life, your finances, time management, your requirements, etc. I would like to see the study of who's more adjusted in their late 20's, college educated or high school. I'm going to put my money on the college educated adults being more fitted and prepared for a "grown up" workforce and life in general.

  31. 31

    This post didn't sound at all like Perez. Obviously Perez Hilton is now a brand name or not really a person.

  32. 32

    It was a well known fact that a lot of my department's faculty focused more on graduate students and left their undergrads mainly in the hands of the TA's. Not that any of that matters anyways. I have a degree in History and the only job I could find was cocktail waitressing. The really sad thing is that I make more money there than my fellow alum stuck doing office work. As for the sarcastic "real winers out of this generation" comment, you shouldn't be too critical either, Perez. You got a BFA from NYU (read the wiki folks, he does have a degree) and lucked out making money from celebrity blogging.

  33. 33

    [re=55Re: Kelly Jesberger – I'd have to misspell a word or two lol

  34. 34

    tuito is rising we can't find jobs in our major and they make us waste time getting our GED classes out of the way instead of going straight foward to our majors.

  35. ohboy says – reply to this


    Re: collegeprofessor – Having a PhD doesn't necessarily mean one is in touch with reality. In fact, I'd venture to say it completely disconnects one from reality. My first two years were worthless, spent handing money over to the uni in the name of "liberal arts" for shit I learned in high school. I think those 7-9 years you spent in grad school have addled your brain.

  36. ohboy says – reply to this


    As an aside…my sophomore o-chem prof was a genius and fucking funny as shit. But homeboy couldn't teach to save his life because he just didn't give a shit about students; it was all about his research. Even at that, he sure as hell couldn't keep a sane grad student in his area for very long. One of the WORST professors I've ever had. But he had that magical, mystical job-saver called tenure. Seriously, if America flushed tenure down the toilet, I'd guess that teaching styles would improve a whole hell of a lot.

  37. 37

    In my personal experience I have to agree. All the classes I took my first two years of college are fucking repeats of my senior year. There was nothing I didn't already learn. That's not the bad part though, the bad part is your paying a shit load (unless your on welfare) out for classes you don't need. It's disgusting the wall the university school levels are.

  38. 38

    I have to agree with this a bit. I am a bio major, and it would have been nice if my first 2 years were not spent taking gen-eds like history. I mean don't get me wrong history is interesting but I don't want to spend time and money being forced to take classes I don't need, it is a waste of money bc most schools bill you per credit hour. Also some professors are more worried about their research than teaching. And also just bc they can run a lab to do some pretty exciting research does not mean they will make good teachers. Most of the professors in my major are doing some kind of research and some of them just are not good teachers, they are there to do their work not teach, teaching is just something they have to do in order to have access to their own lab.

  39. 39

    Hey genius, you've gotta get through the first two years to get through the last two. "Money well spent parents of America." It is actually. Plays into the economy and creates jobs all around, for teachers and administrators alike. Perhaps we should have all taken the high road, like yourself, and realized that we lack talent and the ability to absorb information and become the most annoying voiced piece of shit entertainment blogger and spend our ENTIRE LIFE worrying about other people's business. Brilliant!!

  40. 40

    Well, I learned quite a bit in college — ALL 4 years, I might add. But, then again, my parents didn't pay for my degree.

  41. 41

    you know, i wouldn't have a problem with this post at all if it wasn't for the fact that perez decided to rag on the educators. really? you're going to blame the teachers? the students are just as much a cause of this crap as the teachers are. the teachers are not the ones forcing students to stay out partying until 4 in the morning. the teachers are not the one keeping students from doing their homework and studying for their tests. i'd be willing to bet my life that most of the students who didn't learn anything during their first two years of college are the same ones that did only what they had to do to get a C in the class to get credit for it. no amount of good teaching is going to help a student learn anything if they don't bother to make an effort to learn.

  42. 42

    As a teacher who's lucky enough to be able to 'just' teach, I have to say that research and publishing are not an option for professors who want to keep their job and be able to continue teaching….

  43. 43

    Did you even go to college? Your first two years are spent doing general education requirements. You learn everything from Greek Mythology to Natural Disasters depending on the courses you select. UC schools in particular are research based. They get a lot of their prestige from having Nobel Laureates as professors. Nobel Laureates don't care about 600 freshman and sophomores sleeping off their hangovers in Campbell Hall (go gauchos). However much students learn is solely based on the attention they pay in lecture, section and their readings. That's the cool thing about college. You're not forced to be there. You choose your schedule and you learn because you want to and you pay a hellof a lot of money to do so. The students "said" they didn't learn anything. I spent much of my freshman year drunk in IV but I can still rattle off a few Greek myths, explain viscosity, and have a discussion on the anti semitism of Dickens and Wagner.

  44. 44

    Re: lizzylafosse – ooh aren't we all high and mighty? give me a break. this is the one time i actually agree with perez. college is a shit show for the most part. the system is seriously fucked up. and things are only getting worse in our generation… it blows.

  45. 45

    Re: ohboy – you. are. awesome.

  46. 46

    i think there are so many variables to this that would make it so hard to research. first the student would have to know what career they want before they can even start going to college. i think that's our biggest mistake. we've become so used to everyone saying get an education, bla bla bla.. when we don't even know what we want with our lives yet! experience the world first and then maybe you'll learn something in school because it'll be something you actually like doing. perez, i completely agree with you but this post has no substance to it… stick with celeb gossip please. stop trying to get people so worked up…

  47. 47

    guess what? not everyone belongs in college, pal. there are lots of manual labor jobs that need to be filled with these entitled little brats! stop wasting space in universities you do not belong in, kiddies.

  48. 48

    Yeah, I was a fuck up my first two years. But all of those mistakes I made weren't a waste. I LEARNED from it, getting to know myself and my limitations. If that had never happened I'd still be a little girl relying on the reinforcement of others.

  49. 49

    I agree. As a Multimedia/Web Design major I had to take classes such as, Asian American Family, Women's Studies, Women's History and not nearly enough classes to prepare me for the real world of Digital Design. Oh and Philosophy? They require this class because a bunch of hippies in the 60's and 70's majored in this and need jobs. Read Rich Dad, Poor Dad. There are alternatives to university.

  50. 50

    just shut up perez