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Pope Says Marriage Is Not A Right

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Pope Benedict XVI told priests in his annual speech on Saturday that they need to do a better job counseling couples who plan to marry.

Benedict added that no one has an absolute right to marriage and to ensure that marriages last longer, Catholic churches need to provide pre-marriage counseling to help avoid a "vicious circle" of invalid marriages.

According to records, the United States had more annulments in 2006 than than anywhere else worldwide.

"The church and society at large place too much importance on the good of marriage and the family founded on it to not make a profound commitment to it pastorally," Benedict said.


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  1. 1

    Dude is right! And I'm shocked that you aren't making this a blown out of proportion gay issue already? WTF, you're slacking! :P

  2. 2

    I agree. Amen.

  3. 3

    Marriage means different things to different people, to force the pope's view of marriage on catholics is wrong. It's between the couple, not the couple and a priest. My parents are devout catholic, got married 10 days after meeting each other and are together 30 odd years later. It seems to me he's just trying to justify his bigoted ideas of marriage, particularly homosexual marriages. Absolute scum.

  4. 4

    The Pope is correct… Marriage is NOT a right. It's not a right for anyone straight or gay… Marriage is a religious entity, not civil. If you want want equality Perez you need to push for civil unions for ALL. And by that I mean straight and gay… The government has no right getting involved in a religious issue for anyone straight or gay. Issue civil licenses for all who want to be civilly connected and if you choose to be married go to your house of worship for marriage. That insures that churches still have their rights and the right to marry who they choose while the government gets out of the business of religious bodies.

  5. 5

    I agree that people should take marriage more seriously and not rush into it, especially because in most states loving same-sex couples don't have that privilege.
    The US probably had the highest number of annulments, because it's the third largest country in the world in terms of population. It only makes sense, but Perez wouldn't have picked up on that.

  6. 6

    He's absolutely right! Marriage is not taken seriously anymore. It's like 'you bore/annoy me/we don't get along so oh well..guess we'll just divorce. Sad.

  7. 7

    As if what that plonker of pope Nazinger says is relevant. The blogger is running out of ideas.

  8. Fosca says – reply to this


    He's a creepy fox!
    here in italy if someone want to marriage in the church have to follow a pre-nup class wich in some cases last ove one year.
    in this lessons priests teach insane rules and behaviours to young coupples. they teach how to think and how to act in a relationship, how to educate children and how to manage friens and relatives. CREEPY!
    i'm a psychoterapist and i had to fix a lot of damages that those fanatics did to people.

    sayng that the marriage is not a right they're not only cutting out omosexual from asking for equality, they enlarge their catechesis above everything!

  9. 9

    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – I wish there was a 'Like' button on here… I completely agree

  10. 10

    This man seriously needs to be put in a home. His thinking is awry! He hides priests who have abused children and says marriage isn't a right?! No one died and crowned him king.

  11. 11

    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – Marriage has NOTHING to do with religion! I am married and when I was married it wasn't in a church and God had no mention in the ceremony. Marriage can be religious, but in many cases it's not. You can have a marriage without religion involved, but you can't have one without the government involved.
    Some people live their lives very happily without religion, to the dismay of people like you.

  12. 12

    This from a man who didn't have an issue with priests molesting children. The catholic church is a joke. As long as you are marrying another consenting human being of legal age then gender shouldn't matter.

  13. Fosca says – reply to this


    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – WHAT??? marriege IS a CIVIL ENTITY!!! You can have a civil marriege or a religious one that had recieved a civil comparation! democratic laws rule marriege.
    it isn't just in those part of the world where the religion is the law!
    and you probably already know how free those countries are…

  14. 14

    Re: JustAMoron – This is the comment that actually deserves a "like button"!

  15. kat27 says – reply to this


    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – Nicely put!

  16. 16

    who gives a shit what this pedophile church has to say about ANYTHING??? marriage was around BEFORE christianity, who are they to now claim the right to tell people what they can and cant do?
    they need to turn that judgmental attitude inward at themselves.
    the catholic church is sitting on a ridiculous amount of wealth, art and written history, and its run by PEDOPHILES.

  17. 17

    i kind of agree with him. If you're going to belong to some cult like christianity, you have to accept the rules they put on you. Or, you could pull your head out of your rear end and leave that nonsense behind.

    Because he is referring to RELIGIOUS marriage, not marriage that is a civil contract.

  18. 18

    Seriously, marriage is a "religious ceremony", it is not a government or civil right. If a marriage is not sanctioned by a specific religion itself, then it cannot exist. Like, gays are demanding to enjoy the rituals of Christianity, even though they don't even worship in that faith, because to be a Christian is to live by the word of God, which is the Bible, which clearly says that no man shall lay down with another man. You can spin it all you want, but homosexuality is not accepted by the Christian God, therefore, you are not a Christian, therefore, you cannot enjoy the sanctity of their rituals. Matrimony is a "religious ceremony", therefore, civil unions are redundant, since there is no religious aspect to the union, therefore, it's not "marriage", it's just two people with mentally mis-wired brains trying to pretend that they are normal and typical, so call it what it is.

  19. 19

    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – i agree, but I would change it around a bit. Marriage confers a lot of CIVIL rights for people. So, I would say that RELIGION needs to get out of the state's business. If people want a nice little ceremony where their preacher says a little spell for their union, then cool, go for it. But that little spell should not be conferring civil rights on the union.
    So, everyone should have to get a civil union to get civil rights. These unions need to be conferred by the state, not by magicians, preachers, druids, etc.

  20. 20

    I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. ~~~~ Mohandas Gandhi

  21. Fosca says – reply to this


    Re: uraPIGperez – you're simply a fanatic! people was talking like you at least 100 years before illuminism.
    probably you've been created like this and it's ok for you but i'm among those who evolved themselves and you're a dinosour to me.

  22. 22

    Re: uraPIGperez – I'm married, but it wasn't performed in a church. Are you saying I'm not actually married?!? You did say, "If a marriage is not sanctioned by a specific religion itself, then it cannot exist". That makes absolutely no sense!

  23. 23

    Nothing guarantees a long lasting marriage. A guy wants to outdo his last romantic gesture.. buys a ring. A couple doesn't use condoms, oops, buy a ring. Two people are still in the honeymoon phase and thinks it will never change.. buy a ring. Wanna play house, buy a ring. So few people really stop to think about what it really means. I wish people had to take an IQ test first.. and had to prove they were living with their partner for at least 5 years before being allowed to get married.. I don't know.. ANYthing but how easy it is now. We make a joke of it and then tell same sex couples they can't have a go at it because.. why.. it's so sacred to us? hahaha.. whatevs. PS.. Religion getting their dirty mitts on marriage (long after it already existed btw) is one of the many reasons for it's downfall. They should have stayed out of it, they have no right to talk.

  24. 24

    Re: uraPIGperez – Early Christian churches had absolutely nothing to do with marriage. Marriage came first.

  25. 25

    28 years ago the Catholic Church refused to marry my parents because in their words "it would never last" they went and got married by a JP, so that the military wouldnt send them off to different places. They have since had 2 children, who are now both grown. About 7 years ago, to please my grandparents and because ultimately they felt it was the right thing to do, they got married in the Catholic church. They had to go through classes and everything to teach them about marriage, and even about baby making. They are still happily married today, despite the church saying it would never last.
    I am upset, who is the pope to know anything about marriage? Yes, I think that too many people today get married probably too soon or to the wrong people or for the wrong reasons, and it doesnt work out. But, I think that is their right to make mistakes. I think if the Catholic Church wants to offer extensive marriage counseling classes, then they can do that, but to refuse people marriage obviously doesnt work.

  26. 26

    Re: Lickey~Dickey~Bo~Bickey – Ah, great quote. I feel the same way.

  27. 27

    I agree and I also think having kids is not a right either. Many people are not fit to be parents!

  28. 28

    I am Catholic and I believe that what the Pope says is true…if you're Catholic! Of course it doesnt apply to everyone and he didn't say it to make the entire world populance believe it. And it IS his right to say it and ask for Catholics to agree because he is the leader of that church. I dont go with everything my church says. I believe in equality for all for marriages. The counseling is for if you want to be married WITHIN the church, like have your ceremony there. You can still be Catholic and married by a Justice of the Peace and not go through any counseling. People need to be more aware of what they're forming opinions about and not base it off of a 4 paragraph insert on a gossip website.

  29. 29

    Re: uraPIGperez – that same spot where it says that no man shall lay down with another man, it also tells you not to mix your textiles, stay away from prawns and that women can't go to church if they're on their periods.
    I'd suggest you read your bible, son.

  30. 30

    marriages should be more important to some people. but i do think its a right. it has nothing to do with religion. anyone should be allowed to marry anyone else as long as they love each other and will work hard at their relationship.

  31. 31

    He is the face of evil

  32. 32

    I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. ~~

  33. 33

    They (the priests) obviously got him trapped in a vicious cycle of invalid marriage with the roman catholic church! Wonder if they (church+pope) have a right for sexual interaction and what it might look like. lol. just kidding.
    Unlike heterosexual pastors or homosexuals who are being robbed of their rigths by the vatican, he himself has given up his rights and duties as a normal citizen and a decent human being. And now he's taking it out on us. How pitiful! For shame!

  34. 34

    What a pretty dress he's wearing.

  35. 35

    I have no idea how it is now.. maybe it's the same.. but 27 years ago, when I got married, it was mandatory for my husband and I to go to pre-marriage classes before we could schedule the church for the wedding. In fact I took the classes in Chicago and my husband had to take them at the military church when he was in basic training in Texas. So, do catholic churches not do that anymore?

  36. 36

    Re: uraPIGperez – If marriage is a religious ceremony then WHY do you have to pay the state gov't for a marriage license, and WHY can you get married my a NON RELIGIOUS FIGURE , Justice of the Peace, a judge etc. . . . . ??? Also how do you think atheist and agnostic people get married?? They sure don't go to a church or envoke the name of God in their ceremony. Having a relationship with God is GREAT, but when your SO CALLED relationship with God is perverted into something mean, hateful and judgemental then your "religion" SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. 37

    I don't see how some crusty old catholic virgin has any right to say what marriage is and it isn't. I've been married for 10 years, was married in a courthouse (my husband and I were military at the time). Now my brother is getting married and can't do it anywhere near my family because religious retards feel his relationship is a threat to their way of life (yes, he's gay). What he says can apply to his zombie followers, but he has no right to tell anyone else how to live. Marriage in the bible is a joke. Can't get kids? Sleep with your slaves. Even Jesus didn't think it was important enough to do (or did he.. omg blasphemy). Maybe the pope needs to spend more time teaching the leaders in his organization not to mess with children.

  38. 38

    Re: uraPIGperez – There are A LOT of things that are unacceptable according to the Bible. I'm sure you break some of those rules EVERYDAY ! Maybe YOU shouldn't be allowed to marry the person you love because YOU are a sinner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You want to keep someone from being happy because YOU believe they sin, well I think YOU are a sinner, so I think your happiness should be taken away !

  39. 39

    The Pope is irrelevant. And psycho.

  40. 40

    Re: Erica Reyes Romero – Thanks Erica :) I think its a pretty middle of the road compromise. No one's rights are stomped on civilly while allowing the religious bodies do as they please. No one's twisting anyone's arm to be of a certain faith over another. We don't live in Iran or Saudi Arabia. Im Catholic, there are lots of denominations and religions who WONT marry me in their house of worship. Whatever, who cares! As long as every adult has the right to enter a consenting contract for a relationship per the government Im ok with that.

  41. 41

    Re: Lickey~Dickey~Bo~Bickey – not exactly true, if a couple wants to be married in the church and the pastor agrees to marry them, their marriage would be recognized by the church and blessed by God without getting the government involved. The reason christians do BOTH is to get the rights, privelages, and benefits that come with having a government recognized union. they are two seperate things. my 2 cents: there should be no government granted extra rights, privelages, monetary benefits to getting married OR having children. then people would do these things for the right reason. the government should not even need to know who is married and who is not, it's none of their business! marriage SHOULD be the domain of the church, or for those people who don't worship a diety, should just be something they can decide to do and have blessed or not, whatever. anyone should be allowed to marry (gay, straight, or otherwise), so long as both parties are legal age and consent. but the bottom line is, people don't take marriage seriously because many times they marry for the wrong reason. attaching financial benefits (tax reductions, etc) to marriage and procreation encourages people to marry and have children for reasons other than love.

  42. 42

    I agree!!! People take marriage so nonchalantly. They even make jokes about how for their FIRST marriage, they'll go all out. Marriage was intended to last your entire life. Even divorced is not allowed in the bible. But it is allowed under certain circumstances. Nobody takes anything seriously now. It's very sad…

  43. 43

    His message is a good one. Maybe you can stop your crusade against Catholic Church - you obviously hold a grudge because the Catholic Church is against gay marriage. Get over it.

  44. 44

    Fuck the pope. Hes not god! I VOTE FOR GAY MARRIAGE AND EQUALITY FOR ALL!!

  45. 45


  46. 46

    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – …And tax all churches.

  47. 47

    Re: Matt Clampitt – Wow. Disgusting.

  48. 48

    Re: green middle finger – Yes, but she gets to wear all of those fabulous gowns! The Mormon's can't compete with their tacky magic underwear.

  49. 49

    Who is the pope? What is he doin for the world? Is this something admirable? He should mind about the homeless, hunger, peace, and most of all, to get the respect back. This is the fall of religion. This is the EYES WIDE OPEN, Era.

    I have to agree that every religious ritual should be avoided by the ones who are not religious, and by saying that i mean , in practice. atheists and gays, should not fight for a right that is against their owns beliefs, you are trying to be accepted by whom?

    I am not straight and I am not religious, a civil right is not being taken away from anyone. We have to respect that. We can chose the religion or philosophy that fits us better, there is a mold of god for every mind. God is just a pillow that we lay our heads to cry on. If you need that, if this helps, if you want a shoulder and a heavenly father. Thats ok. I may be too queer for religion, and the are too hypocrites for me, and thats a draw.

    Again, the human kind in the chase after acceptance down the throat, thats not the track.

    Also, the divorce should not be banalized. there should be a tutor , that is goin to analyze the partnership. If you are not ready to get married, you wont. And simply because thats not a right. If you live under any religion you should accept the terms.

    They have to control their sheep's lives a little more, cuz thats what religion's for.

  50. dbee says – reply to this


    the Pope is right!!! you anti-Catholic people need to STFU and stop making everything good look bad!

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  52. 52

    Re: Roccomagoo – Did i hurt your feelings sweet heart? Well maybe if you back off the pope's dick, you would see that your religion is total BULLSHIT!

  53. 53

    ashley Nicole Ingram-Agree

  54. 54

    He is creepy. He is no John Paul.

    He is correct though. Marriage s not a right.

  55. 55

    Re: Matt Clampitt – You didn't upset me at all. I don't let little people like you get me down! I'm a devout Catholic and proud of it! XOXO!

  56. 56

    Um…okay? Well the pope is right in regaurds to the catholic church. I do agree that people need to take marriage more seriously. Because you shouldnt plan to get divorced or be ok with getting divorced. I am not a religious women and even i know that marriage is supposed to last forever.
    However to say that marriage is not a civil right is incorrect. Every adult has the RIGHT to get married, and getting married has nothing to do with religion until you choose to involve religion. When you get married in a church you still have to get a government issued marriage lisence. For the people that want religion in their marriage then great, that is fine for them. But to suggest that unless you get married in a religious ceremony that your marriage is void or nonexistant is horrible. How do people of other religions get married? Are all people who get married under diffrent religions/without religion void marriages? You can say they are to the god you practice under, whatever. But they are all true marriages. And everyone has the right to be married if they are willing to make the commitment themselves. It is a right, anyone should have, and especially the right to do it without religion.

  57. 57

    Religion/ Politics….. two separate things! once people get their FUCKING heads out of their asses and realize that, we can live in peace!

  58. 58

    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – you may want to a do little review of history, marriage is a social construct not a religious one. If marriage is solely a "religious" institution as you claim, that state should not acknowledge them in any way nor should they be be issuing marriage licenses or grant rights based on marital status.

  59. 59

    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – Thanks Ashley, couldn't have said it better myself.

  60. 60

    Re: BELLA blue – Actually, Catholics care. God Bless.

  61. 61

    She married him and had those kids to show her ex up. Ben bailed on her and then married Jen and Had the little girl. It is a shame she married on the rebound like she did because he is going to leave her and she will get stuck with 12 million in back taxes for him. Its gonna happen, skeletor will bail. She haed a lot more money before she married him.

  62. 62

    Re: TheMrsBradPitt – oh, and i suppose athiests like you are SO much more enlightened than us religious folk. I bow down to you…

  63. 63

    Re: CaCaCarKeys – i totally agree with you. i wish everybody else did too.

  64. 64

    Ugh, who gives a fuck. This is such a tired subject.

  65. 65

    Honestly I think he is right tho. I mean, catholic church is a whole community afterall, counseling sounds a good idea. You cannot go ahead into marriage at once before hearing some good advices.
    People get easily angry at each other today. Theres no tolerance and no will to tolerate the other, be it straight or gay. Like many are saying, people are getting married more like because they "have to" or its a "trend" . It has to be taken more seriously and stop rushing into it.
    Re: Serena Loves Mario – Agree.Re: Serena Loves Mario – The OP never said marriage cannot be religious, clearly stated that it can be civil. And there can be marriage without the civil one, just that for the goverment eyes wont count in anything that has to do legal, the same as the civil one wont count for the church.

  66. 66

    I think someone in here is messed up. Marriage is a right and it is not a religious thing unless YOU believe it is. People get married all the time by JP's and those marriages are quite legal and everyone has a right to get married and not just the people that drink the collaid of some religion because they apparently need to be told once a week the difference between right and wrong because they are too stupid to know the difference. Do you really think because you sin all week and then go to confession that yhou are forgiven and then you can just go out and do it again and then just go to confession again ? How silly that is. You send your kids to chruches that are riddled with pedophiles yet want to deny the gays the right to marry??? Any parent that sends their children to a church that is KNOwN for molesting and raping chidren should be put in jail for child endangerment and when their child gets raped or molested they need to put that parent that sent them there in prison right along with the priest ,minister,nun. This whole business of this man getting up and saying marriage is not a right is just another show of the churches stupidity, after 66 years of hearing this and drinking the coolaid I am out of that church.

  67. 67

    @smiley010992- You state that your parents are Catholic but do not mention yourself as such, so maybe that explains your ignorance. The Pope has EVERY right and a DUTY to instruct all Catholics' as to their moral obligation as Catholic's. However, we Catholics (and all human beings for that matter) have been graced by God with the gift of free will, so we may choose to listen or not listen to the Pope's instructions…… In either case to state that he is wrong or has no right to tell Catholic's what their moral obligations are shows a profound ignorance on your part. He may or may not be God's rep here on earth, but then again, you never know. I would be careful calling the Pope scum…..just in case.

  68. 68

    Re: Stormy1 – You are a complete idiot.

  69. 69

    Pope BeneDICKt and that Neinstedt flame seem to find endless ways to make the Catholic Church the marital bed of hypocrisy.

  70. 70

    …the Pope actually dick-tated this while enjoying a young, firm sausage.

  71. 71

    Re: Stormy1 – Sorry, I take back my last comment. I shouldn't call anyone an idiot, especially someone who knows what she's talking about. I get passionate about defending my religion, because it's constantly bashed by everyone…please accept my apology for calling you an idiot!

  72. 72

    what a nut job!!

  73. 73

    Re: uraPIGperez
    Wow. Has anyone ever told you your much more pleasant when you don't talk? I'm guessing yes.

  74. Ci says – reply to this


    I do agree some people take marriage too lightly. In saying that, here, in Ireland, you take a marriage course where a PRIEST tells you how to be a married couple and raise children, THAT, in itself is mad when they can't marry themselves!

  75. 75

    For everyone here bashing the Catholic Church and Christianity…first try reading a little bit on any other religion in the world and see what they say about marriage, and I'm sure you'll find some common ideas…To ANY religion, marriage is sacred.

  76. 76

    as I was saying in the catholic church marriage is called a "sacrament" . A sacrament is a gift given to the church by the Holy Spirit from God. There are seven sacraments in the Holy Catholic Church 'baptism', 'holy communion' 'reconcilliation' 'confirmation' 'marriage' 'annoiting of the sick' 'holy orders'. The priest has always had the power to refuse to marry any two persons who came before him because marriage was never a right but a sacrament in the church. This has nothing to do with human rights, this has to do with following the laws layed out in the church for those of us who are practising catholics given to us by the Holy Spirit to Peter to the present Holy See. This is nothing new, nor is it prejudice. We don't pick and choose the parts of the Gospel that we wish to follow, we choose to follow the Gospel. It hurts as a christian to know others feel hurt and left out. We do accept all, however, these are our 'sacraments' given to us by God and we would only be short changing ourselves and others if we start to pick and choose which ones we wish to keep. In other words, the Holy Father is absolutely right and the church is the rock, the living stones on which He, the Lord, is building His church. We are all loved by God, every single one of us, just like we are loved by our parents, but that doesn't mean that our parents love everything we do, nor does God. However that doesn't diminish His love for us all.

  77. 77

    A form of marriage has existed in every culture in every part of the world throughout all of history. From the industrialized world to the indigenous cultures of far off places never touched by any form of western culture or religion. Marriage and the creation of families is a biological imperative of all humans. Therefore, it is absolutely a right. Not to mention the CIVIL RIGHTS that have been attached to marriage by western governments.

  78. 78

    I kind of agree but kinda don't..I am getting married in July and we are not having it at a church or having anything religious in it. It is a right to some people .. since not everyone is religious. You can still take marriage seriously and not be religious or have pre-marital counsling. Meh. Who cares people do what they want.

  79. 79

    I doubt there are many things that the church would consider a "right". Well, except for donations and complete obedience, of course.

  80. 80

    Here's a suggestion for the "Pope". Take Annulments out of the picture. To say that a marriage never happened is about as hypocritical as saying priests don't have sex. To saction a couple screwing up their marriage and then being able to get married in the church is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard. You screw up a marriage, you get divorced, you can't just decide 20 years later (yes I said 20 years) that now you want an annulment, so that you can remarry IN THE CHURCH. That the catholic church allows this just shows that it's not GOD who see's all; it's their coffers. The Pope is a jerk.

  81. 81

    didnt the catholic church leave the protestant church so that king something could get a divorce or am i completely wrong???
    the point is that if u love someone u should be able to get married to them…love is blind, love is sexless colorless, love is EVERYTHING and if u take that away from someone just bcuz they are attracted to the same sex what do they have left?

  82. 82

    The catholic church should be worrying about putting some kind of policy in to prevent the vicious circle of priests molesting children.

  83. 83

    Do people still listen to these castle-dwelling child molesters anymore?

    If it were up to the catholic church multi-racial couples still wouldn't be allowed to marry. Women wouldn't have rights and would probably still be burned at the stake. Children would be lined up and raped by priests.

    I don't remember any of this in the bible?? How delusional are these people to think that they have an ounce of respect or credibility left after centuries of pillaging and torture.

  84. 84

    i say don't allow ANYONE to get married or allow EVERYONE to get married. anywhere in between sux.

  85. 85

    You can't deny the divorce rates are skyrocketing…. maybe it isn't such a bad idea

  86. 86

    I agree with the Pope, but making people go through marriage counseling before marriage is not going to decrease chances of divorce. People change over time and that is a natural thing we do. Sometimes people work out and sometimes they don't. I think his ideas are focusing too much on religion and not reality.

    Back 30-40 years ago, divorce was not heard of very often. There was a lot of unhappy people and a lot of affairs that no one spoke of. I'd much rather live my life knowing that if something is bad, I have the right to get out of it before its too late, and no one has to know why.
    Some places require people to get counseling before a divorce. I think that's just running people's lives too much. If two grown adults can get married, surely it's their business why, when, and if they want to end their marriage. My husband and I have been through therapy together and really, it didnt help much… we ended up solving our problems over time, patience, and hard work. For some people it works, and for others it doesnt. We live in a free country and we should be able to make our own decisions, on our own terms; plus it's no one else's business if you ask me.

  87. 87

    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram – ….My husband and I got married in civil court… so because we didn't bring religion into our wedding, we aren't technically married? Ridiculous!

    You must watch how you word things and say how things should be, marriage isn't just a religious thing. It's a union between TWO people. Not just God. I know plenty of couples who got married without religion and they've been married happily for years. I've also seen gay couples outlast many marriages I've seen. Till death did they part too!

  88. 88

    Re: Llaauurraa – I agree, but forcing people to take marriage counseling before or after marriage, is not going to help. It's how people are raised. I was young when I got married, and only knew my husband for nearly 4 months. We're still together and happy as ever, we've had hell of times as well. We've just both been raised you don't give up, and the 2nd time around will probably be worse.

    I figure, if someone getting divorced is not affecting your personal life, really its no one else's business what people do. I told my friends that back when they had nothing but negative things to say, and guess who is still here for me now that I'm actually happy? My husband and my family. My friends weren't true and judged me over something that didnt affect them!

  89. 89

    Re: Serena Loves Mario – Thank you!!! I agree 100% with you!

  90. 90

    Re: kat27 – You're ignorant if you agree with someone who truly believes that marriage is strictly religious. Go to hell, you biggot!

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    This is exactly why I've never picked a religion. Seems like most religious people go against God's word of acceptance. They judge, discriminate, and embarrass people every day.

    I'm seriously really hurt to see RELIGIOUS people not considering me married because I wasn't married by a holy person. That is the most terrible thing I've ever heard in my life (well besides my catholic 'aunt' telling my mom that if she didnt baptize my brother, he was going to hell; the day he was born.) Real nice religion.

    If I can remember right… didn't you all kill each other over religion? I see more religious people, doing cruel things to others. Just because you've been dunked in water and said a little prayer in church every week doesn't allow you to be a shit head in your daily life. But you know, everyone else doesn't deserve THEIR rights to marriage.
    Stay the hell out of other people's personal lives, take your religion and gtfo. It is what it IS!

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    Re: uraPIGperez

    Go to hell. If you really gave a shit about religion, those words would hurt you the most, right? I'm sorry, but you're fucking sick. You call yourself religious but you REJECT others for not being religious? Man, you must of been brain washed REAL good.

    I married my husband in CIVIL FUCKING COURT. Happy? Good. I've also SACRIFICED MY PERSONAL HAPPINESS WITH MY HUSBAND, MY HAPPINESS WITH MY FAMILY, to stand RIGHT beside him while he was deployed, defending people in this country who actually feel like you do! Guess what! Most military families got married in court, why? Because they do not have the TIME OR MONEY to have a ceremony in a church!
    But you know, none of them are worthy either. So again, please… go to hell and rot!

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    Re: xqueenx – I agree, most religious people don't research their religion's full known history. They need to take a few classes on it at their community college at least before they speak like they are Nazis about how pure they are. Their religions were controlling and violent once upon a time!

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    The church has no place anymore. There's more evidence to prove that God is a lie than there is to prove he is not. These fear mongrels like the Pope just want to be loved, respected, and worshiped by a people that they have full control over.

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    Re: Serena Loves Mario – I totally agree with you and I agree with the Pope on some levels. But I think that Ashley read more into what the Pope said than she should have. I too did not get married in the church. While I am a practicing Catholic, my ex wasn't and isn't. Our marriage was based on a mutual love and respect for eachother and the belief that we could build a life together. I am sorry to say it didn't work out but it had nothing to do with religion. It was just love.

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    I thought this country was founded on the premise of separation of church and state. That tired old queen needs to keep his nose out of people's business and his dick out of little kids. I wonder if he really thinks he's god's right hand man ?

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    Re: Ashley Nicole Ingram

    Totally agree. I also think there can not be a prenuptial agreement in a religious marriage. If I were clergy, I wouldn't marry someone who was negoitiating what to do when they break up. If people want a prenup, go to a judge and get married.

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    Re: uraPIGperez – LOL you funny lady. Do you know hoow many Atheist and Agnostics have legal and binder marriages. You can have all the Popes you want to perform your CEREMONY and that's all it will be without it being registered with the government. With the proper paper work you are not married. and what about the jews, Muslim, Budist in this counrty that ALL Live in contrast to YOUR GOD's word. It's o.k. for them to get married huh? whats the differece between the forementioned groups and homosexuals?

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    What a stance. Ya, this is a religion that allows you to annul unions WITH children that have gone on for years. OH? You are rich and want a divorce? OK

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    Re: jenniewest – Yay you rock Jennie :)

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