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Horrible. Elderly Gay Man Stoned To Death.

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This is truly one of the most sickening things that we've ever heard.

A 28 year old Philadelphia man named John Joe Thomas has been charged with first degree murder after he admitted to police that he stoned a 70 year old gay man named Murray Seidman to death.

According to authorities, Thomas read the Old Testament and became convinced that homosexuals should be stoned to death. After Seidman allegedly made repeated homosexual advances on him, he beat the man about ten times with a sock he filled with rocks.

It's currently unclear what kind of relationship he had with Seidman, but the two apparently spent every day together, and the younger man was the sole executor of his will.

Check out a news story regarding the matter (above).

So disturbing, bizarre, and tragic.

Our thoughts go out to Seidman's family and loved ones, and we sincerely hope that Thomas comes to understand the gravity of what he did.

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68 comments to “Horrible. Elderly Gay Man Stoned To Death.”



  1. 1

    Yet more backlash against the gay agenda. Imagine the violence if gay marriage passes.



  2. 2

    Sad to hear



  3. 3

    The only reason you think it's horrible is because the old man was gay. Other than that you wouldn't have even mentioned this story I bet. Stop trying to shove down our throats that being gay is ok. We get it. But not everyone agrees and they are entitled to that.



  4. 4

    It's awful indeed. But let's face it. A sick pervert 70 year old gay was hitting on a homophobic young guy who clearly wans't into him. What did he expect? I'm sorry, but he had it coming.



  5. 5

    I'm sure there is more to this story than what we've heard so far. I wouldnt be surprised to learn that molestation may have led to this behavior.



  6. 6

    There's more to this story than is being reported. Why did the two spend every day together? Why was the older homosexual reportedly making advances towards the younger man who murdered him? Why was the younger man the sole executor of his will? How long did these two have a "relationship"? Did they start their relationship when the younger man was a minor? Was their child sexual abuse in the past? This story is beyond bizarre and to report such a one-sided report is grossly impartial journalism.



  7. 7

    Oops, I mean the OPPOSITE of impartial journalism. Very very biased.



  8. 8

    I don't get why that old man continued to make sexual advances to someone who wasn't interested; however, even if that is true or not, he didn't deserve to be beat to death. However, a lot of elderly people are attacked and it all sickens me when this is done. Reminds of a story from years ago when an elderly woman was repeatedly raped in her home by a much younger man that broke into her place.



  9. 9

    I'll never understand why people choose one rule out of the bible to use hate against. There are so many laws in the bible, yet people choose just one to use for hate crimes. You don't see racism against adultery or liars.. No one picketing against those people. Why are they allowed in the military when that's such a big deal in the bible, too?? Because people don't hate gay people because of the bible.. it's an excuse.. they hate them because it's in their hearts. Bible also says don't judge.. No one follows that rule either.



  10. 10

    Yeah, about all those articles you write about women being stoned to death for being suspected of consensual sex . . .
    Stop being sexist.

  11. @v@ says – reply to this


    11

    Somebody's problem solving skills need work. How on earth did he come up with that solution instead of saying no, I'm not gay, so knock off the advances or I'm outta here for good? Instead he takes a sock with a rock and kills the guy? WTF.



  12. 12

    First of all, is it possible for you to go a day without posting some sort of homosexual sob story?
    I do agree that this is very sad and sick though.
    Back in those days before Jesus came to make the ultimate sacrifice for sin, MANY things were considered illegal and immoral under the strict law. This is what happens when people take the Bible out of context. It's sad. However, he is clearly mentally unstable.



  13. 13

    Re: Mad Dog – Define the "gay agenda" phrase. Bigots love using it, much like the "feminist agenda". You know, pretty much every "agenda" that threatens your mental ability to get an erection.



  14. 14

    Re: Little Miss Genius – Oh? So everyone woman being unwantedly hit on by a much older guy is justified in stoning him to death too?



  15. 15

    he had it coming!!!! fucking pervert!!!



  16. 16

    Re: melissasm – I agree, that kind of violence can stem from years of abuse..there's def more to the story



  17. 17

    Re: Lil_MissAmanda
    It's horrible because it's horrible! Anyone being smashed to death with a sock full of stones is horrible. The fact that it was done because of someone's sexuality is worse. If the person was being killed because of the colour of their skin or religion or disability, would you be saying the same thing?



  18. 18

    Re: Lil_MissAmanda – Lil_AssAmanda.. you are a real loser.. so its ok for this kid to kill someone that is gay? what the F are you saying?



  19. 19

    Every nutball killer who has killed a gay man "claims" they were hit on by the gay man. That's what they said about Matthew Shepherd. As if a 70-year-old was hitting on him soooo hard that this 28-year-old couldn't have just got up and left. Was he holding a gun to his head?

    Meanwhile str8 men hit on women all the time–many VERY aggressively. Guess it's time to kill all them fuckers.



  20. 20

    I don't need to go look to know that you're telling only a part of the story … the part that suits your twisted and biased take on sexuality. If the old guy had beeb stoned for any other reason, you wouldn't give a shit and wouldn't post about it. I realize you go trolling for stories about violence to gays. We get that you're obessed. But your constant harping is making most of your readers sick of it and desensitized. Do yourself a favor … do your agenda a favor … stop posting this crap. Because that's what it is: CRAP.



  21. 21

    Re: xxx2dxxx – Wishing someone dead will bring you tons of Karma. Have a nice week!



  22. 22

    WOW!!!! something is REALLY wrong with america!

  23. jian says – reply to this


    23

    Actually, the old man should NOT HAVE BEEN HARASSING THIS KID.
    That's my honest opinion.
    Not that it was coming to him but some gay guys just don't get it when a 'kid' isn't interested and they think they can 'seduce' and convert them or take advantage of youthful confusion. Frankly THE OLD MAN disgusts me toooo!



  24. 24

    I love gay people. So dont get offended at what im gonna say. But i bet that there is more to this story than we are hearing. I have a feeling there was some molesting going on here. And NO im not saying that because hes gay. I hate people who say gay people rape boys. NOT true! And get your info from someone other than your nearby church. But this kid had vengens on this guy or something. Something is not being said to the public.



  25. 25

    How is this celebrity gossip?



  26. 26

    I strongly doubt that the victim made advances to this evil man. He probably targeted the old fellow because he was gay, and only because he was gay. So horrible, so evil, so very very sad. That old fellow must have been so terrified.



  27. 27

    Re: jian – 28 years old does not a kid make! don't try to act like hes this innocent young child! hes nearly 30! and while yes he's a lot younger than the 70 yr old you should have a pretty damn good head on your shoulders as you approach 30.



  28. 28

    So what the guy was partially brain dead anyway.



  29. 29

    There's got to be more to this story.



  30. 30

    Re: jian – How do you know he was "harassing" anyone? Only the killer is saying that. How believable is he? And why was the kid over at the old man's place all the time? Suddenly, he just gets harassed? Come on! Your hate is showing.



  31. 31

    If you believe in the bible and Jesus then you know Jesus was hated to death so to do the same and claim to be a Christian goes against everything the bible teaches you. I believe in God and Jesus and that gay people are the same as anyone else. God AND Jesus don't hate and there is no evidence that they preached this….it's unstable people using them as a scapeg



  32. 32

    I'm a gay male and i must say i'm apalled when i hear this sorta stuff. I listen to both sides and i agree that killing anyone is wrong unless it's out of self defense, but what this guy did was sick (28 year old man). But also the 70 year old seemed like he was a pervert and was making sexual advances and it's people like him that make us look like such animals in this society. Also theres probally more to the story that the media isn't kindly sharing with us yet.



  33. 33

    Re: Little Miss Genius – What the fuck is wrong with you dumb bitch LITTLE MISS DUMBASS did you mean???



  34. 34

    Re: Little Miss Genius

    He had being stoned to death coming? Perhap you need to have your mouth wired open and used for a public toilet.



  35. 35

    For those of you who were wondering, if the older fellow repented at any time during his stoning, he IS eligible for the kingdom of heaven.



  36. 36

    Like others have said it would be interesting to see how long these two men have been spending time together. It is not uncommon that molested children seek revenge on their molesters once they realize impact this has had on their lives. Careful about making this a gay issue until you know the whole truth. It may have some dark, non homosexual, undertones.



  37. 37

    Re: giabread – gay: homosexual, queer, fudge packer

    agenda: a list of this to do

    insecure idiot: someone who needs to lash out with insults because they disagree with another's comments



  38. 38

    Sounds to me like the 28 year old was a rent boy/hustler who killed his boss? Don't use the bible to excuse your crimes.



  39. 39

    Re: jian – your disgust me…



  40. 40

    Perez, you dont't know all the details yet, maybe the 70 year old guy was taking advantage of this 28 year old guy and he being probably not well in the head responsed with lethal violence. Just because the dead guy was guy does not make him a saint, I'm gay myself and know what goes on with old gay guys when they see a younger piece of nice looking ass and cock.



  41. 41

    To Lil_Miss Amanda….. You are on a Gay man's website for celebrity gossip. Wake the fuck up you dumb c@nt!!!



  42. 42

    If the old guy you're hanging out with creeps you out, you have to do what every reasonable adult would do in that situation. Find the door and leave. This is murder, if he was a teenager I might have a tiny small amount of sympathy. But 28, he's the same age as me and I know better than that.



  43. 43

    Re: Lil_MissAmanda – Amanda murder is not OK ever. The only reason this story is getting traction(I've seen it on several sites) is because the guy was gay, that's why Perez cares, because it's a mainstream story. This guy was 28, I'm 28, I know not to murder people. There's no excuse for this.



  44. 44

    Re: diamondheart – Your story would have more traction if this kid was a teenager. He was an adult, at a certain age you have to hold your own self accountable for your actions. Knocking on old people's doors spending your time with them? He should have tried to have a more normal social life. And beyond that, he should have tried to not murder this guy when he got creeped out.



  45. 45

    Re: Little Miss Genius – I have a reasonable question (probably one of the only ones on this board). If the old guy kept hitting on him, why didn't he just leave? He was twenty-eight years old for Christ's sake. Then, of course, you add in that the kid was the old guys ONLY benefactor in his will, everything kind of makes sense. The kid was probably biding his time for old man to die, but got sick of waiting. Maybe he decided to help the old man get put in an early grave, take an insanity plea deal, spend a few months in the nut word, then get the old guys money when he gets out. Maybe that is what the little idiot was thinking. The kid doesn't look too bright.



  46. 46

    I mean if this guy murdered someone he had a conflict with, what kind of husband was he going be? Was he gonna have a wife that was perfect and never gave him any problems, or was he gonna face some problems in his life. How does he respond to crisis and conflict? By putting rocks into a sock and killing someone, he's a murderer. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve an insanity plea, but he was a ticking timebomb, every murderer is a ticking timebomb. There are conflicts in life, you can't ever resort to murder when you run into one. People defending him are just biased AGAINST gay people, I really hope the jury in his trial isn't as well.



  47. 47

    Re: Dontae79 – I love it. +1



  48. 48

    Re: Little Miss Genius – YOU ARE ONE SICK PERSON! NO ONE DESERVES TO BE KILLED OR MURDERED.



  49. 49

    Re: Mad Dog – Violence? So unnecessary. Violence towards gay marriage? Why not, let people love who they want to love and mind your business. It's not they're inviting YOU to their wedding. You don't have to look if you don't like :)



  50. 50

    Can you imagine the reaction to a story about a 28 y/o woman killing an old man who made her the sole executor of his will? People would be calling her a whore and an evil bitch, and that she knew all along what she was doing. But when it's a young man and an older gay man it's a very different reaction. The 28 y/o man is seen as an innocent 'kid' and the gay man a pervert (not saying he wasn't, just pointing out a lot of people's knee-jerk assumptions)

    Anyway, the young man seems like he could be mentally ill and I hope he wont be able to harm anyone else or himself now.



  51. 51

    Yeah, I find it funny how people will claim to be religious. That politicians will exploit religion to gain the trust and votes of other delusional idiots then turn right around and not only keep weed illegal (it was put here by their so called "god")

    According to most religions its sinful to be gay.

    So you have your pick. Either you don't believe in god and have no problems with gays and want to allow them to be married.

    Or you're a religious person and think gays should be stoned. You can't have it both ways, not only is that idiotic but hella hypocritical.

    You can't claim to be a Christian or w/e and then support gay marriage.

    The intelligence of society really is on a decline..



  52. 52

    im guessing this old man fucked and molested him his whole life.

    since he was a little boy.and he finealy got the courage to get away. even if it meant killing the old pervert.

    if this was a 5 year old girl that was molested for twenty years we would be praising her streangh and will power to keep going on.

    let him go. he was the victom



  53. 53

    Maybe the 70 years old man abused the guy since small or something and he just got tired of this. If not, why would he be the only one in the will?. Think about it.



  54. 54

    Re: like!!!COLON!!! whatever! – yes…agreed. ugh



  55. 55

    Actually, Seidman sounds like a predatory pervert. If this were a man going after a woman who wasn't interested and she slammed him, people would support her. Granted, this kid certainly didn't need to kill the guy with a sick filled with rocks, but Seidman is hardly clean as a whistle.



  56. 56

    religion seems to bring the worst out of people! WTF, you never hear of an atheist stoning anybody for any reason!, Christian is a bad word in my world!!



  57. 57

    I used to work with this kid. He was a very disturbed kid and it was only a matter of time before he did something like this. He was always coming in and trying to preach the word of god to people. He sought this guy out and befriended him not the other way around. This man was not molesting him, just a man who wanted companionship. Frankly a lot of people around this area are glad he is behind bars and people feel safer knowing that.



  58. 58

    Re: angelwolf333 – He was not being molested by this man his whole life. I know for a fact



  59. 59

    Re: Lil_MissAmanda – I agree but it shouldn't result in the death of someone. That is Mario's point!!!



  60. 60

    Re: Mad DogRe: Mad Dog – you are a fucking moron. Who reads a gossip site, created by a very rich and liberal gay man, signs up using their email and takes time to post anti gay rhetoric? Your attempt is pathetic. Also when gay marriage passes, I hope your raped in the butt. Welcome to 2011. Peace, love and hair grease. Thanks!



  61. 61

    Re: Junkfoodie – "I hope you get raped" "Peace"

    You do realize that's a contradiction, right? And if they can't get gay marriage passed in ultra-liberal California, it will never pass nationwide. You and your little butt buddy will have to settle for civil unions. Boo hoo.



  62. 62

    The Bible has caused more problems than it has solved. Horrible. Watch, this guy will get off with some stupid "insanity" plea.



  63. 63

    So, this guy should have killed an old man because the old man was hitting on him?… yeah.



  64. 64

    Wow, there are comments on this page that are downright hateful. So people believe it was the right thing to do without knowing the whole story. Talk about judgements. Thankfully, NO ONE gets away from posting HATEFULL things … what one sows, so shall they reap … what goes around comes around … one creates their own karma!



  65. 65

    What a piece of cowardly shit.



  66. 66

    Re: Junkfoodie – You fuck ups can't even get it passed in literally the most gay friendly state in the nation (California)..Highly doubt it



  67. 67

    To anyone who says the man had it coming, that is a horrible thing to say. You have no idea what the nature of their relationship was or if any advances were ever made. The kid clearly wasn't THAT homophobic if he had been friends with the man he killed for so long that he was made his sole beneficiary. There are two sides to every story and one side can't be heard because the person is dead. To say that he had it coming because he was gay is disgusting, not because he's gay but because it sounds like you're condoning his murder. Regardless of the mans sexuality, you should be ashamed of yourselves for even suggesting that he got what he deserved.



  68. 68

    Sounds to me that there is a lot more to this story than posted.
    ..so a gay elderly gentleman makes a cute redneck the executor of his estate, then the cute boy ends up beating the old gay man with a sock of rocks because he did not appreciate the homosexual advances of the elder man.

    Hmmm… more like .. greedy little twirp decides after watching Heavenly Creatures that jumping the queue to his sugar daddy's money and blaming it on the bible would make for a good defence story when he is charged with murder