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Archbishop Likens Gay Marriage To Marrying His Mom

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Wow. The video above is Archbishop Timothy Dolan trying to speak for a religion that, as we reported earlier, is mostly supportive of gay rights, including same-sex marriage.

Yet here is a man who insists that the definition of marriage can not and should not be altered in any way. And when asked how it threatens marriage between a man in a woman if a same-sex couple would like to also be married, he does not actually give an answer. Instead, he asks, "because then where would it stop?" and likens it to a situation where just because he wants to marry his mother, it doesn't mean he should be allowed to do it.

He does try to soften the blow of his bigotry by saying that he supports every other kind of gay rights, just not marriage, and that they'll treat the LGBT community with love and respect. But just not all of it, we guess.

Sadly, a man in his position of authority in the church does sway and affect those who look up to him, and all he can promote is a forced unhappiness on a massive portion of the world. We're sorry, but we're just not convinced that celibate, unmarried men should be the ones making the definition of marriage in the first place.

We need and long for the day that people just take that extra, small step towards complete equality. The church has amended views in the past, why not this one? Especially when so many of the followers already support their fellow people?

We don't want just some equality. Saying "some equality" doesn't even make sense. You're either fully equal, or you aren't really equal at all.

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49 comments to “Archbishop Likens Gay Marriage To Marrying His Mom”



  1. 1

    I think I did his mom, but wasn't gonna marry her.



  2. 2

    Mario…just shut up about the Catholic Church already. Enough. What about Gay Rights for Muslims? Not to mention Womens Rights, like the right to not have your genitals mutilated before you become a woman. Female circumcision is taking place right here in the good ol' USA.



  3. 3

    oh and one more thing there are more celebrities whose names are NOT lady gaga. i say good day to you sir!



  4. 4

    I was raised a Catholic. Got married at 18 in the Las Vegas city hall. HE divorced me after a car accident was supposed to leave me paralyzed from the waist down. I did not want the divorce but according to the church, was excommunicated because I was divorced. Then I wasn't because the church doesn't recognize marriages outsde of those sacred buildings, but was ex-communcated because I had "lived in sin." That's when I gave up. Why was I being punishished for something I did NOT want, nor did I put in motion.



  5. 5

    I want to be equal and marry my 13 year old daughter. EQUALITY!



  6. 6

    marriage is founded in religion so it's not really the gov'ts say whether i should be legalized seeing as we have a separation of the two



  7. 7

    It is things like this that embarrass me to say that I am Catholic. The most unfortunate part about this, is I was confirmed by this man. As I Catholic, I do not agree with him at all, and I believe in gay marriage! It is so frustrating to me to see this, knowing that this is the man who confirmed me as a Catholic. I hate to be associated with his terrible mentality and outrageous claims that gays should not be allowed to marry. Truly disgusting.



  8. 8

    i dont see whats wrong with this? hes voicing his opinion on the subject and it doesnt seem to be hate based, i personally dont agree but then again we live in a free society where wether he likes it or not gay marriage will be a reality for everyone someday as long as we keep fighting for our rights



  9. 9

    ok so while im all for gay marriage you are NEVER going to change the catholic church's view!!! get over it! its a religion thats thousands of years old and if they changed this rule they would obviously be saying "hey! god doesnt exist! we make up all the rules and can change them as we please!" do you really think theyre going to do that now? why dont u focus on changing the govts minds…not the church's



  10. 10

    Re: kelaudk – Seriously?
    1 "Apostolicæ Sedis" excommunication is a penalty issued by an ecclesiastical court. (signed by the pope)

    2 The excommunicant is still considered Christian and a Catholic as the character imparted by baptism is indelible.

    3. In the Catholic Church, formal excommunication is normally resolved by a statement of repentance, profession of the Creed (if the offense involved heresy), or a renewal of obedience (if that was a relevant part of the offending act).

    4. If you were in fact Catholic which I am Sure you arent. You know would know this. And much more.

    5. The church however may have some input as to whether the marriage has been "sanctified". Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1625 "The parties to a marriage covenant are a baptized man and woman, free to contract marriage, who freely express their consent."

  11. _Bri_ says – reply to this


    11

    Sounds like he's pissed he couldn't marry his mom.



  12. 12

    Re: kelaudkRe: kelaudk – Seriously?
    1 "Apostolicæ Sedis" excommunication is a penalty issued by an ecclesiastical court. (signed by the pope)

    2 The excommunicant is still considered Christian and a Catholic as the character imparted by baptism is indelible.

    3. In the Catholic Church, formal excommunication is normally resolved by a statement of repentance, profession of the Creed (if the offense involved heresy), or a renewal of obedience (if that was a relevant part of the offending act).

    4. If you were in fact Catholic which I am Sure you arent. You know would know this. And much more.

    5. The church however may have some input as to whether the marriage has been "sanctified". Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1625 "The parties to a marriage covenant are a baptized man and woman, free to contract marriage, who freely express their consent."



  13. 13

    It's terrible we don't let guys marry their mothers after they've been marching all these years for their rights and hiding in the closet at secret mother-and-son bars in the seedy parts of town.



  14. 14

    Wtf is wrong with you MArio?? He's a deeply religious man who's devoted his life to living the way God wants him to. So you're going to go after him and call him a bigot because he doesn't believe in gay marriage? Talk about fighting a losing battle. If you must carry on like this, target something else besides religion! You're attempting to make millions of people look bad and feel ashamed for having religious views and thats WRONG.

  15. buck says – reply to this


    15

    i like this guy…he tells it like it is. no PC BS. oh, btw, i personally agree with him.



  16. 16

    Sorry, Perez, "some pigs are more equal than others"…..



  17. 17

    There are more important issues for people to be against than gay marriage. What about rape, prostitution, gambling, drug addiction — things that are RAMPANT but everyone is turning a blind eye to the real harms of society because it's easy to attack gays. While I believe in God and I believe that homosexuality is a sin, I think it's ludicrous to target them and forget all the really evil things that are so prevalent today.



  18. 18

    "marriage" was oringinally created, by multiple relgions, as a spiritual union between a man and a woman, blessed by God. if you don't qualify, then you don't qualify. if any two, or three, people want to be together and want to be in love - go ahead, but why insist on it being a "marriage" if you don't qualify? you can still get the same legal rights by declaring yourself a civil union. i can't join mensa, i can't join the italian-american club, i can't be in the men's choir, i'll never get a scholarship from the NAACP - lots of things that i don't qualify for. and i don't try to pass laws to do so and insist that i be included.



  19. 19

    Perez writes: "Wow. The video above is Archbishop Timothy Dolan trying to speak for a religion that, as we reported earlier, is mostly supportive of gay rights, including same-sex marriage."

    ^^ You cannot be this delusional! You cited ONE poll…ONE. There are over 1 Billion Catholics in the world and you cite one poll done in the Unites States only! Gee, then you write "for a religion that, as we reported earlier, is mostly supportive of gay rights, including same-sex marriage." Kind of a stretch there, don't you think?

    Perez, you NEED to STOP lying and twisting the truth…or, get educated because you're kind of well… stup…………..



  20. 20

    From the actual report: "These data demonstrate that the momentum for legal recognition for same-sex unions is strong among American Catholics and likely growing with generational change,"

    So…Perez… next time, do your research before you go "reporting" something and leaving out a key fact!



  21. 21

    You cannot believe in God and be gay. So it is safe to assume gays will stand up to thier beliefs (which are empty). So if you hypocrytes can voice your opinion about us mass dillusional believers of God, then we certainly can voice our opinions about you…. You are causing the hate when you bash those who speak out against you. Timothy Dolan is clearly not hating on you…. I admit some do, but when they dont just STFU.



  22. 22

    Maybe he is gay and he is attracted to his own mom?

  23. hat says – reply to this


    23

    God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.

    +1 for the Archbishop for standing up for his religion.

    Fuck you Mario, you greasy poop shoot assassin !



  24. 24

    "We're sorry, but we're just not convinced that celibate, unmarried men should be the ones making the definition of marriage in the first place."

    THIS.

    The argument that "oh I can marry my mom/Sister/dog" is idiotic and they know it. Thank God not all Catholics are like this nutjob. If he believes marriages should be a certain way, then he should make his personal choices stick to that definition. I think that churches (not just the Catholic church) have far more important issues to deal with than someone else's relationship or marriage.



  25. 25

    Re: FoUfCfK

    I'm straight and I know for a fact that I can't possibly know what God thinks about me or anyone else, regardless of what a book says. It's stupid to say that someone can't be gay and believe in God. That's false, whether you like it or not. You do not dictate someone else's relationship with the divine. Although dictating other people's relationships seems to be an ongoing theme for Christians.

    Btw, your name is quite Christian. I wonder how THAT would go over with God.

  26. Wrenn says – reply to this


    26

    He's right on target.



  27. 27

    Mario, you're an idiot. Anyone who doesn't believe in gay marriage is a bigot or spews hatred? Talk about intolerance you ignorant slob



  28. 28

    the catholic religion itself is not mostly supportive of gay marriage … it's the people that make up the religion that are.
    stop making this out to be the worst thing in the world.
    the catholic church never has && probably never will support the union of gay marriage. theres nothing you can do about it except ignore it.
    they are an old institution with their own beliefs, just like you have your own beliefs.
    that being said i am a catholic that supports gay marriage, the bible is open to interpretation from everyone && i choose to believe that God created us the way we are for a reason, so why not give everyone equal opportunities?
    that is my own personal belief.



  29. 29

    Re: zobiana – I am not christian. and my name is just a word. I have the right to say what I want.



  30. 30

    Re: FoUfCfK – I have to strongly disagree with you. I am 20 years old and I'm gay. My father is a pastor of a very large christian church and have had gay feelings all of my life. I did not want to be gay. In fact I hated everything about it; the constant teasing, ridicule, and shame from my family. I developed serious anorexia/bulimia and was sent to rehab. I spent all of my middle school and high school years in counseling trying to get rid of these feelings because I wanted didn't want to give in to what i was taught to be a "sin" or "disease". After high school I finally was able to be comfortable with myself. I believe that God doesn't make junk. I love men, but I also love the Lord. I believe only God can judge and untill YOU have any idea what it's like to go through everything homosexuals are put through, I'd ask you to please stop judging.



  31. 31

    once again, i don't understand why everyone in the world should have to support gay marriage. or why everyone in the world should think of homosexuality as acceptable and blessed by God. i don't understand why you care what christians (or a God you don't wish to follow or worship and quite possibly don't believe in) thinks about your lifestyle. i know i don't care what anyone thinks of me being hetero, married, a mother, christian, etc. equality doesn't mean everyone agrees with your opinion/lifestyle, it means equal rights under the law. so, by all means, pursue that, but STOP being so intolerant of contrasting viewpoints. and stop thinking we should be forced to agree with you, that would be infringing on OUR rights, mr equality-for-all.



  32. 32

    You're such a liar, Mario. The prevous article said 43% of Catholics support gay marriage. That means 57% don't. Therefore, Catholics are NOT "mostly supportive" of gay marriage.



  33. 33

    oh, and, i'm very proud of this man for standing up for the Word of God in a loving way (NO idea where bigotry ever entered into this, it's classic 'hate the sin, LOVE the sinner' which is a basic tenent of all christianity), even though he had to know in this day and age many would ridicule him. well done, sir.

    oh, and side note in response to celibate men making these decisions, all your answers can be found in paul's teachings in 1 Corinthians 7. celibate men in our lifetime didn't make up these rules, sheesh. they are simply following the Bible. because they're CHRISTIANS. seriously, if you want to talk about christians, perhaps study christianity.



  34. 34

    The Church is such a complicated mechanism. I agree with you Perez. Equality is either full or not…it can't be partial. I don't understand why the Catholic Church has targeted the LGBT community so harshly. They go so far as to say they embrace the gay community IF they don't act on their impulses (thus date, have sex etc….do what is NORMAL). I don't get it. I gave up on understanding them. Instead I stopped going to Church and my religion is practised every day on my own.



  35. 35

    lol for all those who say marriage was created by religions, bigger LOLs for all those who say it was meant to be a deep spiritual relationship between a man and a women LOLS! marriage first of all was a thing of the people of society, religion only became intermingled with it when religion took over government, marriage was older than religion. Secondly marriage was simply just another name for female slavery, I give you 2 fat pigs, and you give me your daughter so she can satisfy my sexually and so i can have children. She literally was no more than a slave to man, there was no oh i love him/her etc, no dating no courting no nothing like that, not even consent, a father wanted to marry his daughter off and that was it. So by saying marriage is a spiritual thing and its about love, we have already changed the original defenition of marriage.



  36. 36

    Re: hcoboy – if you're a christian and believe God created the world and made adam and eve for each other, there is NO way that marriage predates christianity. So, you can make the claimthat marriage was hijacked by religion since you obviously aren't a christian, but a true christian can make an equally valid claim that God created marriage; therefore, marriage is indeed a sacred covenant. i can't prove your theory wrong (and feel no need to) just as you can't prove mine wrong (which you shouldn't feel the need to either). it's called faith, belief, personal conviction.



  37. 37

    Hey Perez, that poll you so proudly cite was sponsored by Arcus, a LGBT group, with its own militant, biased agenda. Don't like it? Too bad. True Catholics don't accept gay marriage, and never will. Remember, ancient societies based on similar "equal rights" are long gone.



  38. 38

    IGNORANCE HIDES BEHIND RELIGION. Always has, ALWAYS will.
    Religion has always been the downfall of all societies. Since the begining of time… and NO, NOT WHEN GOD BLINKED AND SAID, HEY, I JUST CREATED EVERYTHING, ENJOY IT, BUT NOT TOO MUCH CAUSE YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, SOME HORRIBLY, BUT HEY, I WORK IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS SO DON'T QUESTION ME.



  39. 39

    Re: Samantha Sweeney
    People focus on the churches BECAUSE IT ALL STEMS FROM THEIR DISCRIMINATING WAYS. They poor tons of money (WHICH BY THE WAY CHURCHES DONT PAY A DIME IN TAXES WHICH SHOULD BE ILEGAL!) in backing unconstitutional bills that leak into our government. Then we have to pay for it. That's why there is so much focus on churches. They meddle in politics when technically this country should be secular.



  40. 40

    Re: jenb2003 – you actually cant prove mine wrong because u have nothing that proves it wrong period. You just have to look at history there is nothing i am lying about thats just the truth of the circumstances. And I am a christian but that doesnt at any point in time mean i have to blindly follow what men wrote and other men (an EMPEROR hint hint he rules people) compilation hundreds of years later. It is arrogant and even sinning of us to say we can define what god is in one book and what meant wrote, lets not forgot he constantly chasticed these men for being stupid. Christian means i believe in christ and his teachings were that of love, the old testament hundreds of years from now will be seen as what it is, a compilation of old jewish traditions stories that are no more than mythology is now to the greeks



  41. 41

    I'm gay and have never wanted to fuck my mother, nor has she ever wanted to suck my dick.
    dumb fuck. I wonder if his mother wants to fuck the pope, if he can get it up that is. let's not even start with all the priests that want to fuck little boys.



  42. 42

    Re: bbfyso12 – I was raised catholic and don't know any of this stupid bullshit



  43. 43

    Re: FoUfCfK – And some states you can marry a 13 year old!!



  44. 44

    "We're sorry, but we're just not convinced that celibate, unmarried men should be the ones making the definition of marriage in the first place."

    So VERY true. And you know where it stops? Wherever the majority chooses it should stop, if someday 63% [arbitrary example] of Americans are asking for the right to marry their mothers - how are you really going to stop it from happening for long? Marrying your mother or your dog is no realistic comparison anyhow, its just an example critics give to shock people into going "oh god, where DOES it stop?!"



  45. 45

    Here's my view. God makes no mistakes and he created each of us as we are. My interpretation of the Bible is that marriage is only sanctioned by God when it's between 1 man and 1 woman. I further believe that as God made each of us as we are, he loves all of His children, regardless of sexual orientation; however, for reasons unknown, God has chosen homosexuals to live celibate lives, as my interpretation of the Bible is that it's a sin for same-gendered people to engage in sex. So it's not "being" gay that's a sin, it's "acting" on those feelings that is. I have no idea why God has lovingly created homosexuals and then decreed that they should live celibate lives, but obviously He has a special reason and must love His gay children enormously to select them for this purpose.



  46. 46

    so does he think people who cant have kids or dont want to cant get married either this is so silly marrage is not about being able to have kids its about love in any form



  47. 47

    MarriagRe: irepol342

    Marriage was NOT founded in religion. I believe it was sometime between the 15th and 16th centuries that the Church took over the marriage ceremony. This was to ensure that the couple (the bridegroom in particular) upheld their ends of the bargain. Some men were known to back out of a "non-officiated" marriage ceremony. They felt that with the Church behind it, this would legitimize marriage.



  48. 48

    Re: Meggie2466 – hahahahah you have got to be shitting me…lol god did not choose people to be celibate never did he say be celibate my gay children lol… all the "gay sex is bad " references in the bible are extremely easy to disregard…leviticus? word from which we took abomination in the bible was actually "unhealthy" they just thought gay sex was unhealthy, and for their times i dont doubt it was, 1 cuz women were locked into chastity so its not as if they spread around stds. are you gonna go for what paul says in the new testatement? let me just start of by saying paul didnt actually write whats in the new testament, it was all written many years after paul died by some women who had heard his teachings



  49. 49

    The 'definition of marriage' has been shitted on since day 1. Why is it such a huge deal for a loving same-sex couple to marry? It is a legal union.