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Rachel Maddow Fears Marriage Will Actually Threaten Gay Culture

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Rachel Maddow Gay Culture

The MSNBC host isn't in any rush to get married. In fact, she's worried about it for gay culture!

Rachel Maddow, never one to beat around the bush, recently revealed:

I feel that gay people not being able to get married for generations, forever, meant that we came up with alternative ways of recognizing relationships. And I worry that if everybody has access to the same institutions that we lose the creativity of subcultures having to make it on their own. And I like gay culture. [My girlfriend and I] know a lot of people who have gotten married, but I don't think we feel any urgency about it.

That's cool. She doesn't have to get married if she doesn't want to. Nobody should get all Diddy on her and saying, "marry or die."

BUT! That doesn't mean others don't want to get married. So obviously we're still hoping it becomes legal everywhere. This isn't about gay culture. It's about equal rights. being denied…

It's nice that creativity has been able to birth other examples and acts of commitment, but creativity doesn't die with marriage. We hear that's only sex!

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35 comments to “Rachel Maddow Fears Marriage Will Actually Threaten Gay Culture”

  1. 1

    thats a really stupid reason to not have gay marriage. theres nothing "creative" about inequality.

    but i have to point out perez, if this was someone who wasnt gay you would called them a homophobe..

  2. 2

    I hate the term gay culture. I have no ties to the gay culture other than being gay. The culture she is describing and 'the different ways of recognising a relationship' are what gay people had to do, not what they wanted to do. What an absolute retard. equal rights.

  3. 3

    If you support gay marriage you MUST support polygamy, otherwise you're a bigot. Once you change the definition of marriage you can not make a logical argument against other groups also seeking to change the definition, esp polygamy.

  4. jham says – reply to this


    I'm with her personally in that I've never thought marriage was needed to solidify a relationship. That said, this is a matter of discrimination and not allowing rights to certain groups of people. And that discrimination should not be continued or endorsed.

  5. 5

    Who gives a crap about dykes?
    We women would miss our gay stylsts, our ballroom dance partners and NY Fashion Week and the Academy Awards would stop w/o those creative geniuses.
    But the female gays. We don't want to see those ugly broads.
    Kinda like women's golf.

  6. 7897 says – reply to this


    That was a stupid comment.

  7. 7897 says – reply to this


    Re: onemancircus – Well said !!!

  8. 8

    I think Rosie O'Donell did a lot to hurt the image of Gay Marriage
    I remember when her and Kelli went off to SF to get married, and as usual Rsie made a big deal out of nothing, she did say that n the future that people will look at Gay Marriage,and see how well theirs is
    Well that was ANOTHER Rosie missed the boat
    IM still wondering how much did Kellie get in the DIVORCE settlement?
    In California it should be 50% ??????

  9. 9

    I get what she is saying. I have thought that when many gay people jumped on getting married as soon as they could that some ended in very quick divorce that may not have if they hadn't gotten married. It's the same for straight and gay people. Some are better of not married. Marriage can ruin a perfectly happy love but it makes me happy that if one wants to marry that they can with out resistance and control in some places. Tired of political or religious groups having such aggressive anti everything opinions and voices that are heard. I could go on forever with this. Just live and let live FFS. I'm not gay but I have found out that marriage between people who shouldn't be married can turn in to a let the biggest,toughest and whoes in control situation win for one. The other loses. So message to gay people please don't do it unless you're sure. Oh fuck it. All people deserve to be miserable or HAPPY if they can. Look at Ellen and Portia. They have such a beautiful love.

  10. DaLa says – reply to this


    As a straight person I can tell you that creativity DOES die with marriage. Gays and lesbians should have the equal rights to be miserable along with the rest of us.

  11. 11

    It is quite simple….Marriage is not for all people- gay or straight….HOWEVER, it should be allowed for ALL if they so choose to want to get married…Equal rights for all…..

  12. 12


  13. 13

    Re: Gay Republican – is that you Chrissy Barron? is that you Jimmy LaSalvia? you make sure to have a good time at your hate conference CPAC in Feb. oops, sorry, you not wanted there after all.
    i'm sure even someone like you must know that the "definition" of marriage has changed through the years so don't act like same sex marriage would be the first time the "definition" would be changed. (definitely for the better i might add)
    The United States has had a history of marriage restriction laws. Many states enacted miscegenation laws which were first introduced in the late 17th century in the slave-holding colonies of Virginia (1691) and Maryland (1692) and lasted until 1967 (until it was overturned via Loving v. Virginia). Many of these states restricted several minorities from marrying whites. For example, Alabama, Arkansas, and Oklahoma banned Blacks in particular. States such as Mississippi and Missouri banned Blacks and Asians. States such as North Carolina and South Carolina banned Blacks and Native Americans, and some states such as Georgia, South Carolina, and Virginia banned all non-whites.

  14. 14

    "That's cool". Had that been a straight person speaking you would've gone APESHIT.

  15. 15

    The only people that really benefit b/c of marriage are the divorce lawyers. Cha Ching!

  16. 16

    thats a woman? wow

  17. 17

    Re: luvs2tango – You have a very strange take on life….

  18. 18

    Re: mailoa – i know this might come as a shock to you but not all women wear tons of makeup and have bleached blond hair.

  19. 19

    S(he's) hideous…

  20. 20

    The only reason somebody would want to do your ugly ass would be to get to know some fake celebrities. Nobody will marry you Mario, so the issue of gay marriage shouldn't bother you. Nobody wants you…..

  21. 21

    I agree with her on this 100%! It bothers me that there's such a focus on marriage in this country. Society puts this image of the storybook romance that leads to marriage in young girls' minds from an early age. I just don't think it's healthy to teach people that it should be a "life goal" to get married. I'm much more concerned with what contributions a person makes to society and what kind of character he/she has than whether or not he/she is married (with or without children). It doesn't make a couple's love or the time spent together and trust developed any less valid if they aren't married.

  22. 22

  23. 23

    Ha! She doesn't want to get married. That's the only point here.

  24. 24

    Re: Gay Republican – I completely agree 100%. The reason I am against gay marriage is not because I am a homophobe. It is exactly because it changes the definition of marriage which I believe is between one and one woman. Period. Just as polygamy would change the institution of marriage, so does gay marriage. I am entitled to that opinion without being name called or insulted. Perez Hilton is the world's biggest hypocrite. If you don't support the gays, well then you must be a racist, hating, homophobic, bigot.

  25. 25

    *one MAN and one woman.

  26. 26

    You know what would be REALLY creative? End ALL tax, insurance, pension, social security, etc. benefits for straight married couples.

  27. 27

    she sounds stupid.. marriage won't change people who've been doing commitment ceremonies every year in a means of recognzing their relationship..

  28. 28

    it sounds like she's saying us gays should be happy with not having been able to get married because it made it value our relationships more or something which is odd because wasn't she fighting for gay marriage?! dumb.. smh its not about just marriage rachel ray it's about equal rights ugh she just really annoyed me.. you can't say things like this when you're famous.

    it makes you sound ignorant and then in turn makes every one think this is how the majority must feel.

  29. 29

    Re: Gay RepublicanRe: Gay Republican – I really do not care if people want muliple partners since their lives are not my business…but for the sake of argument, one can make such a logical argument. Civl marriage is a contract, and as such can have limitations on it. Marrying a child can be limited just as children are limited from entering many contracts (like credit cards) in that they are deemed unable to understand the terms of the contract (same goes for marrying your dog or refrigerator). As for polygamy, many contracts are exclusive in their nature…I cannot contract to sell my house exclusively to you and exclusively to someone else at the same time (unless you are creating a partnership among the individuals) and the same limit could be placed on marriage. (The one person legally deemed next of kin, recipient of benefits -like Social Security survivor benefits, etc.)

  30. 30

    I have a great deal of respect for Rachel Maddow.
    But I don't agree with her on this issue especially when it comes to gay guys.
    There is a vast difference in life style between the two genders.
    I think it will change gay guys' behaviour for the bteer.

  31. 31

    Re: AttFinch – Well yeah obviously, but goddamn that is one manly woman.

  32. 32

    There is no such thing as gay culture Rachel. Most gays do not want to be in a separate culture. That is why so many young gays call themselves bisexual today. There is no such thing as being a true bisexual. What is gay culture? Acting like a jerk and being a whore? No thanks.

  33. 33

    Re: philip83

    You sound gay to me.

  34. 34

    Rachael is so opinionated that she fails to realize that everyone is different. Of course what would you expect from anyone who actually thinks Obama should be reelected! What works for one person, doesn't work for another. I'm gay and marriage would never work for me. But I have gay friends around the world who are deeply in love who are either married or plan to tie the knot. More power to them! There are far too many lunatics who worry about what others are doing in their personal lives. Simply put, it is none of their business that they need to #STFU! Enough already from the Rachael Maddow's of the world. Sickening!

  35. 35

    For once this woman makes sense. Gays should have a different name for marriage with equal benefits. The definition for marriageas man and woman should not be altered.