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Rick Santorum Nervously Says Gays Rights Are Not Civil Rights!

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During a Fox News interview, Chris Wallace read Rick Santorum this quote:

The army is not a sociological laboratory. Experiments ..are a danger to efficiency, discipline and morale and would result in ultimate defeat.

The same ideology is being used by political players like Michele Bachmann in urges to reinstate Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

Santorum agrees with the quote 'roughly.' Wallace then informs Santorum the quote was spoken during civil rights movement in the sixties.

And while Santorum can look on that time as an obvious foul in American history, he disagrees that the civil rights movement we face now is the same.

He says, very nervously/emotionally/ignorantly, that of course it's wrong to ban rights from someone based on the color of their skin. But according to him, the gay rights movement is different because being gay involves activity.

First of all, we're born this way too. How many times do we have to say it? How many???

Second, the activity you're referring to is our sexual activity, are we correct? You find what we goes in gay bedrooms so bad? Well guess what, straight people have "bad" sex. There's premarital sex, extramarital sex, etc. Straight people participate in "bad sex" all the time. Why aren't you actively fighting that as well? Because there's fear in your heart. Admitting the problem is the first step to solving the problem!

And third, how's those Google searches treatin' ya these days??

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20 comments to “Rick Santorum Nervously Says Gays Rights Are Not Civil Rights!”



  1. 1

    Homosexuality is found in over 450 different species. The fact that it arrives from nature is an answer to the religious accusation that homosexuality is an abomination, and also lends credence to the idea that it is instinctive, rather than a choice. Love is not a wrong instinct to have. When it comes to Religion, my god sais you should only like chocolate icecream, you like vanilla? you can only like chocolate.



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    I do agree with him to a point. This is a fetish, a behavioral thing, that people are trying to turn into some kind of movement. However, America is a free country, and here you do what you want. If gay people want to get married, I don't particularly care. That's their business, it has no effect on me. I have gay friends, and what they do in their relationships is completely their business. I can see where the concern is in the military. There are some gays that are rather dramatic about it. I've seen guys wiggling their butts walking down the street. I've seen guys skipping. I've seen very over dramatic "female" behaviors. In other countries, being gay is a big no no, and a weakness. I think that's the fear most people have when it comes to the military. I think they're scared they'll flaunt their "gayness", and the enemy will take this as a sign of weakness. This whole thing of being "accepted" can definitely have drawbacks when it comes to war. Could you imagine Perez as a soldier? His behaviors are very, blatanly gay. From the way he speaks to the way he crosses his legs. An enemy would pick up on that instantly.



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    Being black and being gay are not the same civil rights issue. You can't hide being black - it's obvious but in the military - not everyone has to know everyone else's sexual preference. Whatever happened to privacy and keeping your preferences to yourself??? I get what he was trying to say. As usual - you are not fair or balanced.



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    @ArleneMarie: LOL! Yes, Perez would be swatted down like a fly in a heartbeat. Hell, I'm gay and I agree with you. When you're out there fighting you don't want it make it look like a Pride Parade. It's sad to say, but there are waaaaaaaaay toooo many members of the gay community who make me cringe and I just can't see them being 'good enough' to go to battle. Sounds awful, but it's true. I want that as much as I want to trust some girl dressed up in Juicy Couture, and her nails perfectly done, to go and work on my car's engine. There's just some things you don't fuck around with, ya know?

    Plus I'm sick and tired of how fucking sensitive and politically correct everybody is these days. Apparently, corporations, politicians, pastors/reverends, - whoever - can't say shit without immediately being classified as a homo-hating bigot that's Christian and a republican. Seriously, it's bullshit. If Target and Michelle Bachman feel that marriage is for a man and a woman only, that's fine. Let them feel and think and fight for what THEY believe. They're entitled to their fight as much as I am to mine. I also help in the fight against drugs and crime. Does that mean I "HATE" drug addicts and thieves? No, not at all. I just disagree with what they're doing but it's not personal, and it's not out of hate towards anyone person or group in particular.



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    You really need to get your facts straight at least. The quote Wallace used was NOT from the civil rights movment of the 60's rather from the 40's when the Army integrated the troops.
    Santorum is very insecure in his masculinity.



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    Re: ArleneMarie – Though I appreciate your open-mindedness about some gay issues, the events you described I find hard to believe. If you are so concerned with the flamboyant gays such as the ones you described, wouldn't you venture that they would not particularly choose the life of a military soldier? There's no right or wrong answer to that question, but I would figure that the gay people who do choose a life in the military would not act so flamboyantly, by nature.



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    The future generations of this country will look back on these years and wonder 'how did my parents actually feel that gay people shouldn't have the right to get married or serve in the military?” To us, the idea of racial segregation seems malicious and reprehensible, but there is no doubt that the same people who are voting against the rights of homosexuals would have voted against the rights of African Americans back then. I'm not saying that people against gay rights are also against black rights, I am saying that they would be back then. If you disagree with me, I think that's awfully naiive of you. The point is is that yes, this is a civil rights issue, since a class of people is being oppressed by their fellow citizens. Some people say that Martin Luther King Jr would have been against gay rights, and if that's true, that would make him part of a society he claimed to be against.
    Which of our fellow citizens will be oppressed in the next generation? Handicapped people?



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    Please remind me again what branch of the military service this man was in, and having two parents who work at the local VA hospital doesn't count. I love how these Congress people know what is best for military personnel without ever being in the service themselves. I couldn't give a rat shit who a serviceman (or woman) falls in love with. If they are willing to go into military service knowing they might die for our/my freedom… the very least I can do as an American is support their right to love and be loved.



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    I can hear Santorum's mother now." Remember little Ricky, keep your underpants on in the boy's shower room. Don't bend over in the shower"….."Ricky, if you touch yourself down there you will turn black and everyone will know".



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    @ joethehobo: Terrific comments !! Right on target -



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    Anti-DADT politicians make it sound like gays are destroying the armed forces. Were we ever doing such a great job anyway? He cites studies which suggest that homosexuality is different from being born black - I would LOVE to read those studies. I have been looking into this and have come up with nothing compelling. As a PhD student at MIT I can guarantee that these are perfect examples of shotty science.

    Responding to @ArleneMarie, how is this different then saying that there are black people who act stereotypically "black" and those who dont? Asian people who act stereotypically "asian" and those who dont? Its not. Have you ever met any gays who were in the military? seen their videos on youtube? I have seen ONE where the guy speaks with a lisp. Not one has a limp wrist. It is viewed by the enemy as being a "weakness" - then doesnt that work to our advantage? We are a strong army and wouldnt this give us the foot up on the element of surprise. I didnt realize that we were choosing who could and could not serve in our army based on who our ENEMIES saw fit to fight THEM.



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    He was "nervous" when he said it because he KNOWS the anti-gay rhetoric is bullshit, he KNOWS their arguments against gays serving openly in the military are bullshit, but he HAS to spew that crap in order to have ANY chance at winning the GOP nomination.



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    Re: hadtodothis – is has never been proved to arrive from nature moron…..

    All the gay people I know have been either sexually, emotionally or physically abused as children….NOW THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO CAUSE GAYNESS!



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    To say the least Rick Santorum is an idiot!
    How is it possible that this bigot is even considered for running for President????



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    Re: joethehobo – Ugh. I don't know why my comments don't post sometimes. Long story short, I see DADT actually as a way of protecting our gay soldiers. First, let's point out that gays are NOT prohibited from joining the military. They are simply asked not to speak of about it, and they are not allowed to be asked. There are idiots in every group of people, and I think there are some gays out there that would simply join to make a point, take a stand in their fight. This can cause problems. Because if they're using the military as their personal soapbox, and not thinking about how their behavior can be reckless, they're going to get someone killed, or themselves. The Middle East is no joke. Military and war is not the place to fight against equalities. Honestly, I don't think women should've fought for equal rights in the military either. It's bringing more risk upon themselves, and other soldiers. If you have an enemy with a gun to a female soldiers head, I don't care if you're gay or straight, I think men have a natural urge to protect girls, and they're going to protect her impulsively. As far as the flamboyant gays in the military, I think a lot aren't going to think about the risks their behaviors bring upon themselves and others. DADT, is in a way, protecting our gay soldiers. It's also protecting them from bullying within their own jobs. Not everyone agrees with gay lifestyles.



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    Re: Andy27 – I completely agree. All this politically correct crap is pure nonsense. And you're right, everyone has the right to their opinions, this is America and you can love or hate whoever you please! That's the beauty of America. As far as equal rights go, I think some things do have to be looked at logically. I can see the problems with there being certain gay people in the military, and I see the problems with there being women in the military. I think the American people need start using their common sense, and not what's "politically correct", when voting on such things. Like with the ladies in the military, I don't care how butch they are, most guys can still kick their asses. And with gay men, there are some that are simply not going to care about their behavior, and I think DADT is kind of keeping a bit of control on that behavior, and protecting them. I'll definitely stand up and fight for marriage equality for gay people. There is no reason to deny them that. However, I do think the gay community needs to tone down the fight a bit. Throwing glitter, and pride parades aren't going to change the homophobes minds, it's actually going to scare them further, and turn them off to the idea. Also, keep the sexual orientation classes out of elementary schools. Save those things for high school and require a permission slip, just like they do with sex ed classes.



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    Re: MITengineer2014 – Element of surprise? What exactly is the surprise? Surprise! We have a flamboyant gay man? Where does that help us at all? The enemy would shoot him dead just for that for that reason. I mean the Middle East is still stoning people to death! We're not fighting Europe here. We're fighting an area that is strongly against gays, and severely oppresses women.



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    I think there are gay people who would make good soldiers. They would act professionally and follow the rules. The people who act improperly should be tossed out, this goes for straight soldiers as well. If there's a code of conduct and people adhere to it, it shouldn't matter.
    Having said that, I don't think gays should be allowed in. But this is America and this is a civil rights issue.



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    Your so outraged right? that's why you are making a buck off of this with the ad.



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    @ KimK's Saggy Ass
    Though your apparent closed-mindedness in almost every post you make probably should have warned me not to waste my time, I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to argue with you logically and rationally. Try to keep up.

    I am gay, and I can assure you that I grew up in a loving and safe home. I have never been molested or touched inappropriately, or anything even close to something of that matter. In fact, believe it or not, it's almost as if my sexuality was something I was born with, just like you. Could it be possible that homosexuality is determined at birth in the same way that heterosexuality is? Would you argue that your innate heterosexuality was influenced by some occurrence in your life?

    To delve into what you said about homosexuality in nature, homosexuality has been observed in many, many species. To deny it is simply incorrect. I dare you to go out and educate yourself on the subject, no matter how reluctant you've proven to be in your last few posts. Your view of the world and different points of view is poisonous and startlingly old-fashioned.