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UGH.

Dan Savage, writer and creator of the It Get's Better campaign, encountered a walkout during his speech at the National High School Journalist Conference in Seattle, when he said, "We can learn to ignore the bull—t in the Bible about gay people."

Knowing Savage as we do, we know he wasn't saying Christianity was bullish** or that religion in general is bullish**. He was merely pointing out that certain aspects of the Bible are outdated and simply wrong — specifically anti-gay sentiments — which makeup perhaps .00009% of the text.

Click (above) to see the whole messy business go down!

Savage later called the walk-out "pansy-a**ed" which, from someone who helms an anti-bullying campaign, is obviously a very negative thing to say.

But Savage has since apologized for his "pansy" remark, claiming he was calling the act itself "pansy-assed" and not the students. He goes on to say:

I didn't call anyone's religion bullshit. I did say that there is bullshit—"untrue words or ideas"—in the Bible. That is being spun as an attack on Christianity. Which is bullshhh… which is untrue. I was not attacking the faith in which I was raised. I was attacking the argument that gay people must be discriminated against—and anti-bullying programs that address anti-gay bullying should be blocked (or exceptions should be made for bullying "motivated by faith")—because it says right there in the Bible that being gay is wrong. Yet the same people who make that claim choose to ignore what the Bible has to say about a great deal else. I did not attack Christianity. I attacked hypocrisy.

Religion is certainly a tricky mistress!

Can't we just be good and kind to each other? Isn't faith in love and honesty and kindness all any of us really need?

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135 comments to “Dan Savage Offends Some Christian Teens”

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  1. 1

    Umm…the Bible is complete bullshit? And religion as a whole…



  2. 2

    Blehh. People want to complain about everything. He wasn't bashing the bible! People…learn to see both sides!



  3. 3

    He shouldn't have dissed their religion. Whether he likes it or not, the Bible is sacred and he didn't have to use language as foul as he did to point out what he disagreed with. People like him is what's wrong with the LGBT community. Tear everyone else down to try to move themselves on up. You can respectfully disagree.

  4. asdsdf says – reply to this


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    if you knew anything you would know the Bible is never outdated…it's the BIble. You either believe all if it or none of it..you can't pick and choose. IF you knew anything about Christianity for real, that's how it is.sorry



  5. 5

    If you're retarded enough to believe anything the bible says then you deserve to be offended.

  6. alechaas30 says – reply to this


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    Good!! Christians need to hear the truth. The bible is nothing but fictitious BS

  7. bob says – reply to this


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    The Bible is never outdated.it's the Bible, it is what it is. You can't pick and choose what you want to believe and not. You can't say oh this is all fantastic and then ignore something just because it goes against how you feel. To be Christian you believe ALL of the Bible, you cannot just believe some and then not care about other parts.

  8. Rachel says – reply to this


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    Re: asdsdf – Yes, that's why we still believe the earth is flat and that bats are birds.



  9. 9

    So basically to defend his actions he is bullying Christian for believing the Bible. And I agree with others you can't pick and choose what you believe in the Bible. You either believe it all or none of it. We all have the right to choose what religion we wish to believe or even none at all. But to bully someone about their beliefs makes him as guilty as those who bullied gay teens to the point of suicide. Basically he's a big ol hypocrite.



  10. 10

    Lmfao - He's as big a phony and hypocrite as you. You say feggot, he says pansy-assed. And then both of you try to spin trying to make it appear you are the victims. This campaign is full of unethical scum.

  11. BIBLE_THUMPER says – reply to this


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    Re: asdsdf – This post annoyed me to no end. Regardless of this man's opinion or the opinion of whomever wrote this post, Christians believe the Bible is 100% true.
    Not old-fashioned, not outdated, and it is absolutely infallible. True and accurate throughout. That is what Christians believe, and I will not ignore portions of it for politically correct reasons.
    The Bible speaks much more about being pro-love than anti-gay. If you don't want to take anything away from it, that's on you. No need to call it bullshit. I personally will never log onto this site again simply because the poster said what they did about it being "simply wrong."
    I'd rather be your version of wrong and my kind of right!

  12. CanadianMommy says – reply to this


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    and if a Christian called a gay person pansy assed or that their idea or belief was bullshit you would cause a sh*t storm to ruin them…..aka a certain beauty queen….perez you're biased reporting is what's bull sh*t

  13. casey says – reply to this


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    Let just chane the bible Perez to make you queers feel better about yourselves

  14. mel90 says – reply to this


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    I'm all for gay rights but that's just disrespectful, everyone has their points of views and as a christian I feel like yes, there are some parts of the bible that might not be correct for our time but there are other ways to express it

  15. Billy says – reply to this


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    Is was probably upset because another one of his ex-lovers died of Aids. Or, perhaps his anus was a little chafed.

  16. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    Re: BIBLE_THUMPER – "That is what Christians believe, and I will not ignore portions of it for politically correct reasons." Yea, unfortunately here in 2012 political correctness and rights for all are the new thing, the world has moved past discrimination for discrimination sake, which means you and your religion are outdated, whether you like it or not. Continue hating gays like your bible says so, but don't get mad when the world around you outgrows your belief system.



  17. 17

    He should have used better language when talking to a group of Christians.

  18. beccarooroo says – reply to this


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    Re: casey – They don't have to change the bible, because gay people were around long before your stories of jesus came along and they'll be around long after the bible is forgotten. Religion is made by man, gay people are made by nature, and nature always wins.



  19. 19

    ….wait…morality can be outdated? Good to know. Well, if he wants respect, he could give it. Their religion should be respected if he wants his opinion to be viewed as valuable in a public forum. Disrespect doesn't DESERVE respect.



  20. 20

    savage is a dipshit and a fucking bully and a gay hater. what do you think he was saying with the PANSY comment. come on people you know PANSY is a derogatory term for gays. COME ON PEEEREX , How can you support this hateful cocksucker.

  21. lola1989 says – reply to this


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    So, if Christians live their lives to love and respect Jesus and his teachings, which were about love, tolerance, and forgiveness, then how come they are cool with going against all of those things by hating on gay people, or anyone who isn't a white Christian for that matter? I don't remember the part where Jesus said he hates gays in the bible.



  22. 22

    Ironic that the anti-bullying leader is a bully himself. Remind you of anyone Mario???



  23. 23

    The bible is a big reason things are so ass-backwards in this country. From your precious gays not being able to marry, to the bullshit women have to put up with in people trying to take away their health services because Christian jackasses think it's all about abortions and nothing else. Go look at countries like Norway, see how well off they are in their economy, how much they value education and then see that very few people are actually religious there.

  24. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    Re: Wenchtits – here fucking here.



  25. 25

    come on PEEREX support his usage of PANSY, SURE he backed up but he said what he said and meant what he said. when confronted with his hatefulness he backtracked AND STILL USED THE HATEFUL BULLING WORD. YOU cannot have it both fucking ways dipshit.

  26. Angela says – reply to this


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    He could have proved his point more professionally.

  27. bahbah says – reply to this


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    It's funny because here in england we are a secular country (despite what david cameron says) and i always remember this christian man coming to tell us we were all going to hell unless we suddenly became christian, and he told us that as a christian we weren't allowed to associate with anyone who's beliefs differed from ours, he openly insulted an indian boy and said that he wasn't welcome, and the indian boy who was incredibly clever and popular just layed into him, and everyone laughed at the christian guy and he started to cry. That experience has taught me that christians are awful, rude, ignorant, weak people who cry when things don't go their way, and so far I haven't been proved wrong.

  28. bahbah says – reply to this


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    sorry i forgot to say this was way back at school in religious education back in the days when we were forced to do it and everyone hated it



  29. 29

    Savage is a bully plain and simple. He knew his audience was teenagers and he freely decide to finally come out as the bully many out here in the real world know him as. The Internet can no longer hide his bullying behavior. He outed his bully self and can't make it go away anytime soon.

  30. Erin1992 says – reply to this


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    Those Christian teens got offended by that like they practice the bible 100%. The bible says to not have sex until marriage…I wonder how many of them disregard that in their dorms. I do believe in God, but I also think it's fine to be gay. I mean, Christians shoved their beliefs at the gay community, yet when a gay member says their opinion, Christians don't want to hear it. Who says that Christianity has to be the dominant religion in the USA?!?!

  31. bahbah says – reply to this


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    Re: BIBLE_THUMPER – "I'd rather be your version of wrong and my kind of right!" i think you just summed up why everyone hates america.

  32. bahbah says – reply to this


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    A secular society is a society that runs on a non-religious basis. In other words, legislators and government officials are generally barred from imposing laws or policies with the intent of furthering a particular religious agenda. Also, religious considerations do not overrule the civil legal structure. Overall the legal, legislative, and administrative processes in a secular society operate independently of any religious beliefs whatsoever.
    A secular society need not be actively anti religious, however. It must simply maintain a separation of powers between the religious establishment and the civil institutions. Indeed, some consider a secular society to be better equipped to protect the equality and freedom of all contingent religions, because no single faith is given a primacy of influence in the structure of the society.



  33. 33

    Re: asdsdf

    Then stop eating shellfish, buy some slaves, and sacrifice your first born son.



  34. 34

    Re: bob

    As I said above, dear Christian who believes all, no more shellfish, buy some slaves, maybe a few concubines, and murder, er sacrifice your firstborn son. You can't have it both ways. Sorry.

  35. augiechimpo says – reply to this


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    The thing is, the bible doesn't say most of the bullshit that people try to say it does. The bible is not meant to be taken literally like a lot of people not fully connected to reality do take it. The whole thing about the bible saying gay people are bad is just someones ignorant interpretation of one small passage in it. If all these people spewing bible verses were real christians they would accepting and forgiving of all people, and not hate mongers looking to rid the world of anyone who is different then themselves.

  36. beccarooroo says – reply to this


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    Imagine life is like sitting a test, and imagine your text book is the bible. The questions on the test have to be right for you to pass, but you're using an old textbook that has out of date information. If you use the out of date text book then your answers will all be wrong. If you say that the old textbook is the only textbook that is right, and that the newer textbooks are wrong, then you will be living in the past and fail while everyone around you lives in the present and gets an A+.

  37. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    Re: Kyle73 – Don't forget the beards or looking a woman on her period in the face!

  38. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    "Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee." — Leviticus 19:19

    Better go through all your clothes and check the fibre content!



  39. 39

    Perez, the Bible is the Word of God. It is God's connection to His People. It is NOT antiquated or wrong. It is PERFECTION.
    .
    What I find interesting is that the Holy Koran is more condemning against homosexuality, but NO ONE has the GUTS to say anything against the Koran or Islam and the daily violence against homosexuality.
    .

  40. ptdkle says – reply to this


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    the bible also says that if a woman touches a man's testicles then she should get her hand cut off (Deuteronomy 25:11-12).

  41. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    Re: stefystef – So…when the bible tells you you can't look at a man while you're on your period you think that is perfection? When the bible tells you to kill your first born son that is perfection? When the bible says you can't make foolish jokes it is perfection?

  42. yumba says – reply to this


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    Bottom line..this Savage guy was suppose to be the adult in the room, who was paid to speak to high school students on the subject of bullying and the guy ends up bullying and cursing a group of high school kids.

    The kids said nothing to provoke him,they were his captive audience. They simply exercised their right to walk out on language that was offensive to them. It sounds to me like the kids were the adults, and this Savage guy needs to be locked up in a padded cell. Savage is a jerk and to me he did nothing positive for the gay community with his actions at this event.

  43. StickratMikestickler says – reply to this


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    Agree with those who say that he could have expressed himself better. Certainly is a bright guy. Calling him a bully seems a bit odd and convenient or perfunctory. Look forward to the day when civilization has matured enough to stop believing in fabricated books like bible, Torah, Koran, you name it. Some good points in all of them if they could just skip the hocus pocus stuff. Let gay people do as they please. Who could begin to care. If its not for you, don't be gay.

  44. beccarooroo says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – Although I agree with what you said about Savage and his bullying, I don't see how storming out of a room just because you hear something you don't like is mature and adult. Adults don't have tantrums just because somebody disagrees with their point of view. If you worked in a company where your boss said he thought the bible was bullshit, would you get up and walk out, or would you politely tell him that you found it offensive and get back to work? Adults don't walk out of situations, they deal with them.

  45. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – Refusing to see someone else's point of view isn't adult behaviour, it's ignorant behaviour. Nobody said those kids had to agree with him, but by walking out they have just proved that bible-bashers will ignore and disregard anything that doesn't fit into their way of thinking, like closed-minded fools.

  46. yumba says – reply to this


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    Re: bahbah – You must be a communist. Communists are always pushing for secularism,so when they kill millions of people like MAO and Stalin….they feel no guilt. Who defines the moral code in a secular society? Is murder and stealing legal in a secular society? Is it legal to murder certain groups of people as opposed to other groups of people?

    The problems in society are attributed more to bullies who crave power and control and who use religion as a tool whether it be Christianity or lack of- atheism, to build their armies of loyal followers.

    I find that Savage's actions and some actions by other gay activists who seek to literally destroy and silence anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle, to be just as offensive as the bullies who target the gay community. Two wrongs do not make a right and Savage had the opportunity to lead by example and he blew it!!



  47. 47

    The Bible is bullshit written to oppress people.



  48. 48

    I'm Florida Evans Bitch!
    The Bible is pure fiction. Nothing is sacred. Grow up!



  49. 49

    Re: BIBLE_THUMPER – Christians do not, repeat DO NOT believe the Bible is true. They know it is a work of fiction.

  50. yumba says – reply to this


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    Re: beccarooroo – These were high school kids!! They could have booed or they could have thrown some glitter I guess! The kids were uncomfortable so they left the room because they felt attacked and threatened. High school ages range from 15 to 18.

  51. Megan says – reply to this


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    What frustrates me is that people ask why Christians do not support gay rights when the Bible teaches love, tolerance, and acceptance. The Bible does teach that but the Bible also does not tolerate sin, at any time or anywhere. And the Bible sees homosexuality as a sin. I have several gay friends. I do not believe that their lifestyle is god-honoring but I do not hate them. I love them, and God is love. Every man has a choice to do good or evil. But God's love for both christian and sinners is still real. And the Bible doesn't say that slavery is okay. It does talk about how to deal with being a slave because that was very relevant during biblical times. It's offered as encouragement to those who were enslaved. Slavery was forged from the sin of man, not from the Bible.



  52. 52

    Re: yumba – And then America killed millions since it became a country…

  53. yumba says – reply to this


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    Re: jakeyplay – These were only kids!!!!!!!!!!! Savage had the mike and controlled the conversation. Since these kids weren't gay, then I guess it is okay to trample on their rights and feelings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. CanadianMommy says – reply to this


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    Re: jakeyplay – exactly where and what bible are you reading that says to sacrafice your first born

  55. bahbah says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – lol yea, in england we go hunting people and our secularist culture is totally cool with it. Oh by the way since you are clearly a moron I should tell you i was being sarcastic. Secularism by it's definition is about creating an environment where people aren't prosecuted for having different beliefs. Fucking get your facts right you dumb bitch.

  56. beachy824 says – reply to this


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    how come everyone respects other religions, but christians need to pick and choose what they believe in their OWN religion so they don't offend anyone? i mean we need to walk on eggshells when talking about other religions or different lifestyles, but if you're a catholic/christian/conservative you have to mold your beliefs to everyone else so no one gets offended. everyone wants tolerance, but only for their own beliefs. if that's what those kids believe, let them believe it. whether you think it's wrong or right. as long as they're not hurting anyone else while they believe it. if there was an anti gay speaker talking up there instead of dan savage and kids that were for gay rights got up and walked out, they would be heroes for standing up for what they believe in. why is it not okay for these kids to do literally the same exact thing? it's not that hard to understand. we all have different beliefs.

  57. amanda says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – agreed. so much.



  58. 58

    He's a hypocrite to the fullest extent! Just as disrespectful as the people he claims to be fighting against!

  59. bahbah says – reply to this


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    Re: overthere – LOL. I know right? Pretty sure more innocent people have died at the hands of Christians then non-Christians.

  60. CanadianMommy says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – thank God someone with brains!!!! you are absolutely correct…and most people dont even realize that 90% of the laws in the old testiment were written for simple protection and cleanliness to avoid illness….they couldnt eat pork and animals like it because they dug in the dirt, ate worms and as a result the meat was tainted….everyone needs to listen to actual jewish teachers who have studied the ancient texts and who explain what and why it was like that…..in the new testiment Jesus told Peter he could eat whatever he wanted cause he had sanctified it….but people who have never experienced faith and REAL christianity will never get it, so i find there is no point in arguing

  61. yumba says – reply to this


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    Re: bahbah – So what is that little institution called the Church of England?? So the Church of England had nothing to do with the foundation of laws created in England???????

  62. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – So, wait, I'm confused. You say that you love your gay friends but accept that being gay is a sin, and sins are evil, so you love gay people even though you think they're evil? Hmm, sounds interesting. How do your gay friends feel about you thinking they're evil? I find it hard to believe that any gay person would be friends with someone who thought they were evil.

  63. CanadianMommy says – reply to this


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    Re: beachy824 – well said!

  64. beccarooroo says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – so the bible is cool with acceptance and tolerance but only of stuff they say is ok? By the very definition of acceptance and tolerance that is completely wrong.

  65. n. says – reply to this


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    Look at the sheeple fleeing reason.

  66. jakeyplay says – reply to this


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    Re: beachy824 – Yea, but last time I checked gay people weren't trying to pass laws to stop Christians from getting married or having basic human rights. You can disagree with it all you want as long as you don't start fucking with people's lives, and last time i checked christains were more happy to ruin gay people's lives then vice versa.

  67. bahbah says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – Once upon a time I'm sure it did, but the Church does not have jurisdiction in this country and hasn't for a very long time, in the same way that The Queen has no jurisdiction any more. Seriously, before you start talking bullshit you should really go read a wiki page or something, because you have no clue what you're talking about. England is secular, we are not ruled by one governing religion, you fail to understand what that means.

  68. yumba says – reply to this


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    Re: beachy824 – Extreme Muslims don't exactly respect other religions. They have been known in the modern world to murder infidels. They also enjoy killing gay people and women who do not obey their masters……..honor killings.

    Bottom line every religion has extremists,one should not condemn an entire faith by the actions of a few extremists…who always seem to be the ones who receive all of the media attention.

  69. yumba says – reply to this


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    Re: bahbah – Maybe that is why the English are leaving England by the boat loads…….Cheers matey!

  70. beachy824 says – reply to this


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    Re: jakeyplay – that's why i said, as long as they're not hurting anyone else. i think it's wrong for anyone to tell gays not to get married. but in the same respect christians and catholics shouldn't be forced to perform gay marriages at their churches if that's something that they don't believe in. it's just common sense. be tolerable of other people's beliefs and don't butt into their business.

  71. bahbah says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – Not sure what has given you that idea, because it's wrong.

  72. Megan says – reply to this


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    Re: beccarooroo – Read Romans chapter one. It will explain a lot. Murder is a sin. Are we supposed to accept and be tolerant of those who commit it because the Bible preaches tolerance and acceptance? There are rules and laws for a reason. I believe that homosexuality is a sin. It is making what is natural unnatural.

  73. beccarooroo says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – Being an extremist means that you take the laws of god in ways which are harmful and irrational. Muslim faith doesn't preach death and destruction, but some read into the scripture more then is there to suit their own extreme beliefs. Christians who take a single line of the bible to mean that it's ok to hate gays, even though the majority of the bible preaches of love and acceptance, can only be seen as extremists. You might not kill gays any more, but you still ignore the majority of what your Christ and saviour taught you over a line of text that you interpret differently to others.



  74. 74

    fuck God!!!

  75. beachy824 says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – extreme muslims or anyone at all using violence to get their point across shouldn't be doing that in the first place. that's obviously wrong in any religion.

  76. Megan says – reply to this


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    Re: CanadianMommy – Did I say gay people were evil. You are putting words in my mouth that I never wrote. My gay friends know that I do not condone their lifestyle. Just like they don't care for my christian beliefs. But we are fine with that because we have a mutual respect for each other and are friends. Hate the sin and not the sinner. I am a sinner. We all are. But I do believe I've been saved by God's grace. You can make fun of that all you like but it is very real to me. How could I go one day living a certain way to opening a Bible and seeing truth for the first time in my life. And no I am not an ignorant hillbilly. I am a history major in college at the top of my class so I can only see my salvation as a work of a higher power. Or else I would think myself crazy. I know why people see Christians as crazy. Because they haven't been changed themselves.

  77. lola1989 says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – I'm English and I can tell you that most people like living in England because we are more tolerant then other countries. Everyone knows that America is full of racists and homophobes and misogynists, even Americans know that. I'm not saying we don't have people like that too, but in America a homophobic racist could become President, while here is England if a PM said anything against a single group of people they would be thrown out of office immediately. We simply do not stand for it. If anything, people are coming over here by the boat load because they want to have freedom and human rights. Don't get me wrong I love America and I always enjoy my stay there, I find the American people to be very friendly decent good people, but unfortunately the bigots are allowed too much power over there, which is why I would never be able to live there.

  78. Megan says – reply to this


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    Re: yumba – I agree. You can explain till you are blue in the face. But noone who doesn't believe in God will validate what you are saying because it's all nonsense to them.

  79. bob says – reply to this


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    This is such a hypocritcal post it's ridiculous. This site is getting worse and worse now, I check it less and less and zoom past any poss like that. Tolerance is no longer a two way street in north america. You either have to agree with liberals and democrats or you are apparently a hillbilly idiot. Just because you choose to believe in something different that other people don't like, mostly because it seems to make people accountable for their actions and it means that you can't be self centered, something our country has become. This guy attacking people for what they believe is going against what he's talking about. Why is it okay for him to basically call what millions of people believe stupid or outdated or full ofbullshit..but then none of those millions of people get to have basically an opinion. You want people to bow down to what you believe for no reason that's any more valid than mine or anybody elses. Christians, Jews, Muslims and Mormons ALL believe that homosexuality is a sin. DOes that mean the Christian people hate gays? No, stop basing what you thnk CHristianity is about on what you see on TV and get out and talk to real CHristian people.

  80. bob says – reply to this


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    Christian people are taught to love all people. If you find a hate filled Christian person, I wouldn't consider them CHristian.
    Stop posting so much hypocrtical things. IT's getting worse and worse that people of ALL religions can't believe what they believe. Why do I have to tolerate what you believe when you won't tolerate what I believe?



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    Re: bahbah – fuck off bitch

  82. beccarooroo says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – Gay people were born into this world way before the Bible was written. Gay people were born into this world before the concept of sin existed. The only unnatural thing about it is that a group of people decided their way of thinking was the right way, and wrote a book saying anyone who disagreed was evil and unworthy of life. People are born gay so it must be natural, saying it isn't natural is unnatural.

  83. bahbah says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – I am an Athiest, I believe that faith is very important to people, I believe that religion is a strong force in people's lives, and I believe that anything that can help people through life and guide them is nothing but a good thing, but I personally do not believe in god. I do not believe, like you do, that anyone who doesn't agree with my athiest beliefs is crazy. So who's the ignorant one now?

  84. Megan says – reply to this


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    Re: beccarooroo – I don't believe gay people are born into the world as being gay people. I believe it is a choice. And since sin enters the world from the moment you are born then I believe children can make the choice to be gay. But what's the use in going back in forth. You believe the Bible was written by some random people and I believe it was written by God through men.

  85. Megan says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – I really respect the fact that you respect my religion. Not many athiests would say the same thing. I wasn't saying everyone else was ignorant. I was merely referring to some of the comments people were making about Christians being hillbillies.

  86. Megan says – reply to this


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    Re: Megan – Also, to add, I wasn't saying everyone else was crazy. I was saying I would see christianity as crazy if I wasn't saved. Just me.

  87. annabear says – reply to this


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    Re: bob – Excuse me, I am Jewish, and you'll find that there is much confusion when it comes to the issue of homosexuality and Judaism, not the least of which is the misconception that Judaism doesn’t like homosexuals. For the record: Judaism has nothing against an individual who has an attraction to members of his/her gender. The Torah doesn’t even recognize the term homosexual. Judaism sees people, not sexual labels. And all people are respected equally. If you like lobsters you’re not a Homaridaevore, if you feel the need to eat on Yom Kippor you are not an Antiatonementour, and if you have a sexual urge towards a member of the same sex, you are not a Homosexual. You are simply a Jew.

  88. ptdkle says – reply to this


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    Re: raypearson – raypearson sounds a lot like rape your son. you sick fat fucker i hope you die in your sleep tonight



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    I bet he didn't have the balls to say that Islam is bullshit in regards to treatment of gays now did he? If he can't equally H8 he should keep his mouth shut. Even if I agree with him, that was in poor taste and waters down his arguments and tarnishes his image and makes him seem less genuine in how he cares about people and how they are treated. And, a high school is not the appropriate place to curse during a presentation (even though all the kids, Christian or not hear that type of language regularly) I'm surprised some idiot Administrator allowed that talk and allowed that insult to occur to any religion.

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    Re: ptdkle – That was uncalled for.

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    Re: Megan – i think you are replying to the wrong post….i never said you said they were evil



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    Re: beccarooroo – Gay people are made by nature? LMFAO! Your a sick sick puppy please go get some help!

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    Re: Megan – hmmmmm your comment regarding yumba i think was meant for me…..guess they got mixed up lol

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    Re: CanadianMommy – You are right! I am sorry!!

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    Re: jakeyplay – Did I say gay people were evil. You are putting words in my mouth that I never wrote. My gay friends know that I do not condone their lifestyle. Just like they don't care for my christian beliefs. But we are fine with that because we have a mutual respect for each other and are friends. Hate the sin and not the sinner. I am a sinner. We all are. But I do believe I've been saved by God's grace. You can make fun of that all you like but it is very real to me. How could I go one day living a certain way to opening a Bible and seeing truth for the first time in my life. And no I am not an ignorant hillbilly. I am a history major in college at the top of my class so I can only see my salvation as a work of a higher power. Or else I would think myself crazy. I know why people see Christians as crazy. Because they haven't been changed themselves.

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    Ohhhhhhh boo hoo, run away scaredy cats! Go Dan savage…….love u!

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    Re: CanadianMommy – This is what I meant to say to you! " I agree. You can explain till you are blue in the face. But noone who doesn't believe in God will validate what you are saying because it's all nonsense to them." Sorry about that. My first time posting here and I got everything screwed up apparently!

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    natural refers to nature…….nature reproduces or produces….everything on this planet produces something….homosexuals produce nothing



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    Re: CanadianMommy – I think Megan's post was meant for Jakeplay :)

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    Re: ahlrichs09 – Nature decides how people are born, and gay people are born that way, so she's right. It's a shame you're too dumb to understand that.

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