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Mitt Romney Supports Gay Boy Scouts But Not Gay Marriage?

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Mitt Romney Boy Scout Ban


Well, this doesn’t make much sense, now does it??

Back in June, we showed you a video of Mitt Romney from 1994, proclaiming his support of the Boy Scouts of America and his views on its gay members.

CLICK HERE to see the video if you missed it.

In the video, Romney stated:

“I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”

Now, a spokeswoman for Romney is saying he STILL upholds those beliefs and confirmed:

“This remains Romney’s position today.”

This is where things get confusing, though, seeing as Mitt has opposed gay marriage, but yet, he thinks ALL boys should have the right to participate in the Boy Scouts!

What gives, Mitt???

Equality for all…in every aspect!

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48 comments to “Mitt Romney Supports Gay Boy Scouts But Not Gay Marriage?”

  1. 1

    I suspect it's because being in the Boy Scouts doesn't violate the laws of the Bible or our Constitution.

  2. kandycane says – reply to this


    Get off the gay crap u better vote about money……are gays will not afford their love nest

  3. 3

    Okay, I don't think it's right to keep homosexuals from marrying but I do understand where Mitt Romney is coming from. He is a religious man, it doesn't take a genius to know that many religious people think marriage should be between a man and a woman. MARRIAGE. The bible doesn't say anything about boy scouts. Boy scouts are not a holy union, they are just an organization.
    I'm not religious but c'mon he's doesn't want to ban gays from existing or being apart of society he just doesn't believe they should marry. Because it's against his religion. I don't agree with it. Personally I think it's nobody's business but the 2 people in love. But it's not hard to figure out where he is coming from.

  4. here kitty kitty says – reply to this


    I believe in equality as well, but hardly think this is newsworthy. Seriously, why is this so confusing? Right or wrong, Romney is sticking to his beliefs. BO took a strong stance against Gay marriage and now supports it. I think THAT is confusing. Perhaps it's because there is an election around the corner! Hmm!

  5. 5

    Good comments all. I'd like to add that the video is from 18 years ago. I think Romney's comments on the video were very forward-looking for 1994. Kudos to Mitt for expressing his views, Obama only made a statement after he was forced to bc his vice president made one before he did.

  6. cs7261 says – reply to this


    WOW! I am shocked to read the comments regard Mitt Romney. They are positive, thoughtful, and respectful. Thank you! I am not going to give my opinion, but seriously, thank you. You all made me believe in America again.

  7. 7

    Re: grt777Re: velavelaRe: here kitty kitty – Um or maybe it's because gay marriage is a progressive movement, and 4 years ago Barack Obama really didn't believe in it. Look at Bill Clinton, he was against it, now he is for it. Times are changing at a faster rate and people change their minds, Romney has done it about 50000 times this election, so how is it confusing again?

  8. 8

    lets hope this fuc wit doesnt get voted in or itll be back into the bush agendas and dark ages again …

  9. 9

    handsome republican scumbag! he's handsome but so evil! seriously, i feel sick and disgusted when i see a picture of this man.

  10. kstals1234 says – reply to this


    Those participating as actual boy scouts are children. It's a lot harder to have a position against something that affects actual children directly whereas marriage is an adult issue (though we all know that children are affected when their parents aren't allowed to marry, or can't grow up with the knowledge that they themselves will have the right to marry). Unfortunately the way the issues regarding the LGBT community are framed, the focus is typically on adult issues which does a disservice to our fight for equality. Had we had a greater focus on LGBT young people, and we make people realize that young LGBT people exist … it makes it a lot harder to deny them rights for their future.

  11. Jamie says – reply to this


    Romney flip flops on every issue, no news here. I'm going to vote for someone who isn't afraid to stand up for peoples individual rights, including the LBGT community and allow them to have equal rights like everyone else. My vote is going to Ron Paul! I know many are quick to assume they know where he stands on the issue, but before you make yourself sound stupid, look it up. You can google his response on the issue. In fact, I encourage everyone to listen to what he has to say about every issue going on, he's a very smart man. He isn't afraid to speak the truth even if it's unpopular. I'm voting for the champion of the Constitution, Ron Paul!

  12. 12

    Re: grt777 – That's exactly right. Mormonism doesn't condemn "being" gay - it simply believes that the "act" of homosexuality is sinful (having sexual relationships with anyone other than your opposite-gender spouse"). Nothing confusing about this at all.

  13. 13

    People who believe marriage is between a man and a woman - it doesn't mean they hate gays. The definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman. No need to change the definition of marriage - just have another word for a union between same sex couples. Hey I want to be voluptuous but I'm 5'2" and weight 102 lbs - I don't expect the definition of voluptuous to be changed.

  14. Clayton says – reply to this


    Re: kandycane – You're an idiot. Learn ENGLISH!

  15. 15

    I don't know why anybody pays attention to this guy. He is always changing his mind, and he is always lying. Always. And he can't sing.

  16. 16

    I can't believe I'm about to defend Romney… but…there's a big difference here. I entirely disagree with them but the argument against gay marriage has nothing to do with homophobia…and everything to do with them being traditional and not wanting to change the definition in the law based on what the definition in the Bible is. Plenty of people against gay marriage would be perfectly happy if instead the LGBT community agreed to civil unions. Keeping any gay boys out of the Boy Scouts on the other hand usually runs around the condemning gays and being afraid of their kids exposed to that "behaviour"…which is straight up homophobia.

  17. kandycane says – reply to this


    Re: Clayton – I'm an idiot because auto spell choose the wrong word? At least I make sure my life lines up with God. I don't live life on feelings, that's probably why my family isn't off drugged up and living a perverted life.

  18. tmfmvt says – reply to this


    It took me steps to come to the understanding and support of gay marriage because I had been told being gay was wrong. Sometimes it just takes different events and steps to come to a conclusion that is so counter to what was being said while growing up. Maybe this is part of the steps he is taking to get to the marriage equality….At least he supports Gays in the boy scouts, it is through education that gay marriage will eventually become a non-issue and part of everyday life…IMHO

  19. 19

    Have you seen the MULTIPLE video clips of MULTIPLE interviews where years ago Mitt Romney came out strongly for a woman's right to choose, ie Mitt Romney supported Roe vs Wade? Those videos are out there, I've seen them. Over and over and over again, he stated he would NOT fight Roe vs Wade. Now, because he has to cater to the Radical RightWingers, he does not. Now either his "moral compass" swings around and around like he's standing smack on the North Pole…..OR he is just saying what he needs to say to get the nomination from the Republicans and secretly is a VERY moderate, (dare I say liberal) Republican?

  20. Kindness says – reply to this


    Re: pdrocksmysocks

    Agreed and very well said. I've many gay friends who would enjoy civil unions so they enjoy all the rights as heterosexual unions. So many times people are angered that certain religions believe in traditional marriage, thus pigeonholing all with that definition as a "hate group" or anti-gay.

    I think another poster said this and I am going to say it as well, kudos to all the kind words and fair statements on this post. It's honestly refreshing to see a political debate/issue that is treated with kindness and calm discussion without hate and slurs at the other party. That gives me hope, and as another stated, renewed faith in humanity!! <3

  21. 21

    Maybe Romney's attitude about homos "evolved" like Obama's did, did you ever think about that, pansy? Romney's seems to have taken more time to "evolve," whereas Obama went from thinking about gay marriage to "for" it in a matter of months. I despise people to pander to minorities for votes. Romney condemns the ACT of gay sex, not a sexual orientation, is how I read this; there is no confusion. You're trying to CREATE confusion, but the truth is that you're not smart enough. Leave off the homo stuff, because it's not working. Asshole.

  22. 22

    So far as "civil unions" versus "marriage" is concerned—I can understand, and I agree that each church has the right to decide what constitutes a marriage based on their beliefs and I don't think the LGBT community can do anything other than to work within the structure of the churches to change that-that is not a LEGAL fight. It is the right to have a CIVIL UNION that the LGBT are fighting for because it is the CIVIL UNION that determines whether their partners are entitled to the same rights as a spouse in health insurance, inheritance, life insurance policies, retirement benefits, ability to be present at the death bed in a hospital, etc . How do I reconcile this ? RENDER UNDER CAESAR. The churches can believe whatever they want-and they can refuse couples a "religious ceremony". But as we all know, that ceremony is NOT a legal union until after a MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE FROM THE STATE is obtained–and I do think gay couples should have the right to obtain that certificate from the State and then have whatever type of ceremony they are able to have. If their church recognizes the union and marries them–great! If not, they can do what previously married, then divorced people in the Catholic Church do–they get married by the Judge, Vegas, or break with their church and go to another!!!

  23. Chase says – reply to this


    It makes perfect sense. Just because you value marraige as that being between one man and one woman, doesn't mean you don't like or value a person becasue they are gay.

  24. E-Dub says – reply to this


    Empty suit…. If the wind is blowing left that is where he is if it is blowing right that is where he is. He will say anything to get elected. Flip Flop

  25. Kindness says – reply to this


    Re: E-Dub

    Absolutely respect your opinion, but please notice these statements were made 18 years ago and he has not faltered on his beliefs nor changed them to suit popular opinion in the meantime. He is of a certain religion that does believe in the "traditional marriage" concept, but he bears no ill will nor hate towards any particular group (and when discussed showing each side respect without name-calling and slurs, shows that there is a bit of a distinction and more acceptance than many realize at first blush). I know there's always going to be one or two that spew profanity and hate from either side, but it really is awesome to see calm perspectives from a middle ground.

    Again, really awesome debate here and kudos to all who are keeping it classy and respectful towards on another.

  26. Thebigboot says – reply to this


    So when Obama changes his mind on gay marriage it is called evolving, but Romeny is flip flopping?

  27. whitney says – reply to this


    I'm definitely in favour of gay marriage (and I live in Canada, where it's been legal everywhere for years), but the way this post is worded is a little silly. I disagree with Mitt Romney's stance, but I don't think gay marriage and gay boy scouts are the same thing. To say that he'd allow for gay kids to go in the Scouts like like saying he wouldn't mind if gay kids go to school, or play soccer, or shop at WalMart. Obviously everyone is allowed to go anywhere or be a part of any group. Marriage is a legal right, and doesn't hold the same legal status as being a member of the Boy Scouts. I think gay people should get married and have full equality under all aspect of the law, but it's not really comparable to joining a group.

  28. Chase says – reply to this


    Re: E-Dub – Ahhh, it's not a flip flop. Those comments were made in 1994 and not about gay marraige - it was about acceptance of all persons welcome in the boy scouts, regardless of sexual orientation. Romney has always been for marraige to be defined as one man and one woman.
    Or maybe you are talking about Barry. He just flip flopped 2 1/2 months ago to be in favor of gay marraige to get some $$$, from his previous flip flop of being against it, that he previously flip flopped as being for it when he ran for his glorious 18 month senate career that somehow made him qualified to hold the most powerful position in the world.

  29. 29

    Re: Thebigboot – Glad someone else noticed this! Unlikely there will ever be any accountability for the positive/negative labeling in the media.

  30. hutfhgg says – reply to this


    Its the whole constitution of marriage….what's confusing about it?

  31. Media Management says – reply to this


    Re: Thebigboot

    There is very much a double standard when it comes to Hollywood and the media. Words and clips taken out of context and twisted to make one appear in a different light than intended.

    Thus why I think it's EXTREMELY important not to stick solely FOX (far right channels) to CNN (or far left channels) when forming an opinion. Read neural articles and reporting. Educate yourself on both parties and their stances and do not take another's report on it, lest you be fed a biased spin on the facts or or unfortunately, facts omitted completely.

    Left or right… educate yourself neutrally on both parties then vote. You might be surprised at what you learn. And seriously… VOTE! People came out of the woodwork for the Chick-Fil-A hype… I hope we can all do the same at the polls.

  32. 32

    This man is a TURD, DOUCHE, FUCKTARD and whatever clever closeminded thing u can think of… please do not vote for him. GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!

  33. David Asset says – reply to this


    Re: kandycane – Neither does gay marriage and if you think differently, I defy you to find any statement in either the constitution or the Bible which condemns or outlaws gay marriage.

  34. Page 2 says – reply to this


    Wow. This got bumped to page 2 rather quickly.

  35. Why not posting says – reply to this


    Why are my other posts not being approved?

    Sad that this article got bumped so quickly to page 2. Record time.

  36. Felicia says – reply to this


    It appears that he is saying gays are okay in boy scouts, but like alot of Americans, still believe it is against their beliefs to allow gay marriage. It is a club, not a government organization. He doesn't care if your gay, just doesn't support anything other than a man and a woman being allowed to marry.

  37. here kitty kitty says – reply to this


    Re: steviebeatie

    Bill Clinton and BO are politicians … who want to garner votes and popularity. I hardly think BO was enlightened or changed his views in 4 short years. I think he wants to get re-elected - period. Like I said, right or wrong, Romney has stuck to his guns on this topic.

  38. Julie says – reply to this


    I support gay marriage, but I understand Romney perfectly. I have seen how so many people believe that if you don't support gay marriage, well then you don't like the gays at all. That's not true! You have to separate them: many people can live with the fact that some guys like guys and girl like girls but that doesn't mean that they have to agree with them getting married. Its call different opinions and that has to be respected. It doesn't make someone a bad person if he/she doesn't want to see people from the same sex getting married….just like it doesn't make us the straight people a bad human being for supporting the gays.

  39. here kitty kitty says – reply to this


    Re: Chase
    Well said!

  40. Obvious says – reply to this


    Re: Why not posting

    For obvious reasons, he posted this with an expectation of angry "homophobic" outbursts. Anything that shows Romney in ANY sort of reasonable light by the public is against the purpose of his posting this in the first place. Didn't get the reaction he wanted… so bury it in the blog. Similar to the Chick-fil-a "reporting" and his "sources."

    I now await another 5 posts from "sources" close to Kristen Stewart… Perez is his own worst enemy, sadly.

  41. 41

    Even when its understandable his perspective because for him marriage is sacred, theres also to be noticed the difference between religious marriage and CIVIL marriage. If it doesnt involve his religious beliefs then I see no reason whatsoever why gay people couldnt get married.

  42. Scotty Brock says – reply to this


    Let's be real here. He is just as homophobic and prejudice as every other right-wing conservative republican that opposed equal rights. Why does he support gay youth participating in Boy Scouts? Well, the answer should be clear….he probably ignorantly thinks that it would introduce them to their masculine aspects and eventually result in them growing up to be heterosexual. It's a simplified version of "turn-them-straight therapy". I would like to hope for the best from people…but he has shown his blatant opposition against homosexuals receiving the same rights as anyone else. My common sense only leaves my to assume that he wouldn't just support the gay boy scouts issue and not the other.

  43. Haha Seriously says – reply to this


    Re: Scotty Brock

    Oh sweetheart, don't speak! I'm GAY AND PROUD but this is so damned if you do damned if you don't and makes all of us sound moonbat crazy. Basically, he is proven homophobic he supports gay rights in this organization?????? LOL! So essentially, if you disagree with us, you're a homophobic conservative and if you support us you're a closeted homophobic trying to turn us? Honey hush, conservatives aren't that smart and you are making the rest of us paranoid.

  44. 44

    I am voting strictly on who is best for the economy and this year it is Romney. Lost my job of 22 years under Obama, sorry will not be fooled twice. Gay marriage is a minor issue to me and not something that woudl sway my vote ( but I am not gay).

  45. AriM27 says – reply to this


    I think people should stop judging him and his decisions. He has nothing against gays, he just doesn't believe they should marry, is that too difficult for people to understand. He has beliefs and he is sticking to them. This shows he is an honest man. I think he is a good person, and he is only doing what he believes is right.

  46. jess says – reply to this


    It is the same position Obama held a handful of months ago, along with many democrats.

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