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Now that we've had some time to let it all sink in, here are our thoughts.
What are YOURS?
Tags: canadialand, cory monteith, drugs, pereztv
I think im just as bad as you are.
i think it sad that this has happened and i really hope something happens about this all. I dont think peopel should get away with this stuff and cory was a victim of a addiction. i love him he was someone i looked up too.. shame he went in such a tragic way. :/ x
I totally agree about educating about how bad drugs are. But when you have musicians promoting drugs in their lyrics, its not going to help. As for life sentence for drug dealers, it will not stop them. People murder people knowing they can get death or life in prison, and they still do it.
Amen Perez.. Amen
You are so right! Enablers and Deniers go hand-in-hand. He probably did not arrive in Vancouver loaded with substances. However, his friends kept him well supplied and probably used along with him. Our friends often don't like to see us sober–its makes the uncomfortable and they always use "you can have just one-it won't hurt you. The police there should interview his supplier that he was with that evening..Oops they already did..And noting! I hope these Manipulators (friends) will think of this maybe while they are getting high at the next downtown club…
cops are to busy trying to get the drug lords they dont deal with the smaller dealers… probably because you take one off the street and 3 more pop up…
but i agree there need to be harsher laws for dealers and even users… i think 3 month stint in rehab/jail would do these addic's some good maybe…
Kids dont think of consequences and they need to be shown there are many not just death.
Vancouver (i live there) has a huge problem with bad mixed heroin as well that has already caused 23 deaths… its only your life people… talk to your kids
Cory was open and honest about his troubles in life RIP
Re: Hampton – When it comes down to it, he bought it, he fell off the wagon, he used, he died.
The dealer, IMO, is guilty of trafficking drugs. Not murder. Not unless he jabbed the needle into his veins….
I, too, am in the same place as you, Perez. I've been grieving since I heard. I've been upset and very sad. Now, I'm just angry. I've read a piece in the Times which talked about how the drug system fails those who finish their stints in rehab, and they used Cory as an example.
The thing with Cory (in his case, as with many cases though), he started from a young age due to emotional and psychological problems. Initial use led to an addiction. He was in rehab once during his teens and obviously went back again in April. Here's what angers me the most - he was let out after 1 MONTH. That's not right. People addicted to something so strong and addictive as heroin need 3 months plus. Not only that, they need to evaluate the reasons behind the use - so, proper psychological assessment and care - and provide proper care when he's released. He was obviously attending AA meetings. But he made the mistake of going back to the environment that provided him drugs, and most likely friends who were on drugs themselves and didn't stop him when he got the drugs/ maybe even provided him with the drugs? Who knows.
When it comes to celebrities, rehab centre stuff need more of a tough stance. They can't be intimidated into letting celebs out. Why was he allowed out after 1 month? That's one thing that angers me.
Unfortunately, as for the drug supply problem, I don't think any type of change in sentencing will solve or prevent the trade in any way. They'll just find ways to be more sly so as not to get caught. I'm all for tougher penalties, but I don't think it will stop them.
Prevention against the initial use of drugs is what needs to be looked at. That starts with education, identifying those at risk of drug use and getting them help. Cory was not given any form of psychological help after his parents' divorce. The second my partner's parents divorced, they put both kids in with a psychologist to ensure they wouldn't be effected by it. Cory was then placed in 12 different schools - pushed around from place to place without anyone really trying to help him until he quit and his habit became worse.
Maybe his latest movie role tipped him over the edge mentally, who knows. One thing is for sure, this is such a tragic waste of life. Drug overdoses that kill people are a tragic waste of life and should not happen.
You are so right. As someone who has watched the man I love lose everything but his life to his addicitions and he STILL can't kick it.. I tend to look at the enablers as well. Addiction is a horrible, horrible disease and I just get so upset when I see people treat it as if it's as easy to quit as changing your underwear. It breaks my heart that I can't "save him".. but I sure as hell refuse to enable him. I was actually quite devestated by Cory's death, simply because it really drove home that no matter how "normal" a person appears, we are all fighting demons.. and some are fighting demons that will ultimately win.
I hate the glamorization of drugs. I feel like the mainstream media is partially to blame in situations like that because of the constant exposure people have to it. When I shelter my 8 year old son and only allow him to watch Disney channel but he can ask me what sex and cocaine is because he spent an hour listening to pop radio.. there's an issue. I wish more people took responsibility for their words before they leave their mouth. I also feel like celebrities are automatically thrust into rolemodel-dom. Regardless of how much they want or don't want to be, it's part of the the double-edged sword. They are in the eye, therefore have a responsibility to be a positive one. It's unfortunate that Cory had to go the way he did, because regardless of his addiciton, he seemed to have a light that shined quite bright.
I completely agree with you! I'm 15, and the amount of people I know that do drugs and act like it's the best thing in the world is crazy! It needs to stop before more people we love and care for lose their life!
No, you're wrong. It's time to gear down the war on drugs, and gear up on dealing with addictions as a medical health problem. Prisons are already full, it's a useless battle. Deal with your anger, experience it, let it go - then realize we need to use that money to help people kick their addictions and be healthy. No matter what you do, there will be drugs, there will be drug dealers. Let that go and focus on helping people like Cory get clean.
What I don't get is the so called "friends" that knew about his problem, that knew that he was still struggling and that knew that when he went to Vancouver he would fall in with the wrong crowd and still left him alone to his own devices; where were his friends and family?? why did they leave him alone in Vancouver?? especially if they knew that he would be tempted to use there?? TRUE friends do not leave you alone to you own devices; TRUE friends would make sure he was never alone and tempted to use; TRUE friends would rather lose his friendship than let him at the mercy of the enablers that supplied him with drugs; yes, he was 31 and an adult, but he was also afflicted with a disease that requires constant monitoring and supervision. The drug dealers are not the only ones at fault.
I believe that drugs need to be dealt with from a psychological and mental health perspective, as I said in my earlier comments. However, part of me is wondering how the drug trade is so prevalent in Canada. Do the cops not care or just decide to turn a blind eye? I'm from Australia, so not sure about how things are down there, but can someone enlighten me, please. How is it so prevalent that it's that easy to get drugs - apparently drug deals happen in broad daylight?
Re: mezzalenko –
I completely agree with you. In various interviews, he referred to what sounds like an unstable, rootless childhood and being a completely lost soul for most of his life. The success of Glee came on like gangbusters, but that could never have compensated for what he lost in a youth of drug addiction and drifting. His first drama teacher described him coming in to observe a class, and that he looked seriously adrift. I can imagine that in joining Glee, he was surrounded by kids younger than he who had tons of voice/dance/acting training, the opposite of his background. That he became such a popular character is a genuine testament to his innate charisma and talents. But sometimes people have a hard time processing fame and success, because deep down inside they feel unworthy. Heartbreaking.
You can't blame drugs for the choices of people. Had Corey not killed himself with drugs, it would've been alcohol, or even a gun. He was clearly disturbed and spent the majority of his life battling invisible demons. But ultimately, he is the one to blame for his own actions. You have to be living on the moon to be unaware that heroin can kill you. I'm sure he knew the risks and he chose to use anyway.
I think you are mistaken on your comments. If we have sentences that put people in prison for life for selling drugs, we will have more people in prisons. We have done all we can to employ harsh penalties for selling and using drugs, and people in the drug trade are getting killed all the time, but that hasn't stopped the madness. What makes the drugs worse is the way they are adulterated. If we provided addicts with access to clean drugs with standard doses and medical oversight, we would do a lot more to stop these overdoses. Like during prohibition, people developed cocktail mixers to mask the taste of bathtub gin. For sure, more people were going blind from drinking adulterated beverages. It is much safer for everyone, here and abroad, to legalize, regulate, and monitor.
The 12-Step religious AA/NA cult KILLS another one….
People in the Hollywood TV/Movie industry DO NOT HAVE FRIENDS; the people you see around them ARE LEECHES who eat all the scraps the celebrities throw to them…
If any of Cory's "FRIENDS" told him to STOP DRINKING & DRUGGING…They'd be FIRED IMMEDIATELY & BLACKLISTED FOREVER in Hollywood.
Perez welcome to the 21st century where the war on drugs has been proven to be nothing but a state ploy to incarcerate Black men while the upper management of the drug trade…i.e. often White men and political leaders…get off scott free.
Thanks for the ad before expressing your sadness. The irony of it all. Scientific, historic, empirical evidence proves that criminalizing drug use increases rates of addiction. Public awareness campaigns based on fear are an abominable failure and have proven to show abysmal results. These methods are right wing paranoid responses to drug addiction and HIV transmission, which are intricately related. If you want the drug and HIV transmission rates under control drastic change in perceptions is needed. We don't need more criminals, we don't need more jails to boost the economy. We need resources and legislation to make drastic changes using a harm reduction approach. Unfortunately people choose not not care about this problem. It does not make money. You will not get paid for advertising if you make the shift to what really matters. I would like to think you could and would along with anyone else who is in a position to make change. We are not sitting back waiting, we are doing it on our own, in our ratty work environment with a lot of resistance. It is all so terribly unglamorous.
So Perez, I hope this means you won't be as nonchalant when talking about the celebrities you mentioned in this video and their drug use. Sometimes I don't get how you scrutinize people for cigarette smoking (which I agree is just plain awful) but the ones who are smoking a blunt get a big "LOL they're really into that sticky icky!"
Anyway, love the blog and am a huge fan! Just hope to see you being a little less goofy about celebs doing drugs, including weed. We definitely need to stop idolizing this behavior and glamorizing it.
I don't think punishing drug dealers is a fix because drugs are going to be there no matter what punishment is associated with it. Its just prohibition and history proves over and over that it doesn't work. There is always going to addictions to something, what needs to be done is better health coverage for rehab and other mental health facilities so they don't cut them loose once the insurance company says "k they're cured". But the most important thing to remember is that addiction is a life long disease the key word is disease instead of punishing and blaming and pointing fingers, we need to come together and learn from tragedies like these and come together and support each other with out judgment but with an open heart. Educate not hate. But my heart breaks for Lea and his family gut wrenching that's for sure. And Perez thank you for handling this situation with such tact and understanding I may not agree with everything you do but your blog gives me so much joy. Some people go out and smoke and their breaks I need to read this you melt away my stress and anxiety thank you for being you!
Re: ccmyplaymate – Oh go choke on your race card and stop equating every freakin' problem to the color of one's skin. It's ignorant, it's over-done, and drugs definitely don't give a crap about color.
100% agree with you! Drugs take everything. I knew a boy that reminds me SO much of Cory. He Even looked like him just gorgeous gorgeous and the sweetest smile, it just broke my heart to see this happened to Cory too. because he was so special. The boy I knew was partying with the wrong crowd one night and was shot and killed by someone he had just met at a party (a wild drug party). He shot him, took all his money and ran. His family has to live with it forever. I agree that we just don't get that it's not a game. They think it's fine because Miley does it.
I agree with you 100%!
I know he didn't overdose but it was a drug dealing kind of thing. They stole money and drugs. My point was that the whole drug scene is just SO freakin dangerous.
The only one who can break an addiction is the addict themselves. When it was confirmed tat Cory Monteith OD'ed I was far less sad, and more just plain angry. It was his choice to go back to Vancuver, which sounded like it was a bad place for him, it was his choice to see the people who enabled him and it was his choice to shoot up the heroin. Which is not some simple pass around a party drug. He not only ended his own life, he destroyed the lives of so many people around him. I understand that addiction is a disease and trust me I understand the horrors of dealing with mental health issues, but no one else could have fixed his problem. Yes, clearly he needed to stay in rehab longer, but he never should have gone back up to Canada, especially alone. He knew what he was doing. I think a lot of us related to the Finn and Rachel story line on Glee, I know I was invested in it, and thn when Lea and Cory started dating in real life it was just really kind of cool. I think a lot of people were happy for them. So now all of us "Finchel" followers are not just mourning the loss of our favorite actor, we are also mourning the loss of a relationship that will never have a proper ending, we are mourning Finn Hudson, and I for one feel like it ll had to end because of a series of really stupid choices.
I love this. "We need to instill some f-ing FEAR! Y'all can DIE!"
It sounds a bit blunt, or flippant, or something… but really, I super respect his take on things.
THis was a hot mess. BUT education is important! FYI weed is harmless. No one dies of a weed overdose. Alcohol and cigerettes are way more harmful. Please reshoot this with the focus on cocain?LAD/Meth/H
I agree that there should be stricter laws, internationally. Look at Singapore, there's death sentences for drug peddlers and look at their drug rate or even their crime rate in general. Even the drug abusers get time for using.
Cory was vulnerable. Sadly, he was just in rehab. This happens all the time. Nobody is perfect when it comes to addiction. I'm upset, it happened too quickly when it looked very promising for him to get clean. I figured it had to be a serious drug(heroin) and mixing with booze is lethal. He was very talented and we need to remember that. I loved Glee and he made it fun. Rest in peace, Cory M.
I appreciate your comments, Perez, but life sentences aren't the answer. Prisons are over crowded as it is and the burden on the tax payers to incarcerate a drug dealer for life would be astronomical. I agree, a person convicted of dealing drugs should have a prison sentence but in the long run, mandated fines and community service on top of prison time could be effective.
In addition, all entertainment entities should require regular drug screenings. This should include actors/actresses and musical groups/acts. Anyone in the public eye that the young people of the world admire and look up to should be tested for drug use. Most jobs today require this: why not for celebrities too? Perhaps the potential loss of a ludicrous career would stop then from using.
Perez, I'm AGREE with you! I'm from Mexico and Here we have a serious problem with drugs because countries like USA wants more and more. THis is a global problem. In Mexico someone dies everyday because of this and is innocent people who isn't consumers. wrong place and wrong time. You know, in the middle of a shootout And I'm getting angry when "stars" say that is OK. It would be OK until innocent people stop dying. It's like some diamonds… Remember "Blood Diamond" movie, it's kind the same problem here. Poor People die for selling drugs, for girls like Lindsay or Miley can getting high. It's a huge problem between Mexico and USA, the illegal guns, the traffic drugs, all this shit. So, yes you are right. The Legal system it has to be more serious. Sorry for Cody, He start with this problem when he was a kid, so, it wasn't his fault it all.
As a former addict I can honestly say its a horrible disease , I think cory might have made the wrong decision by choosing to play an addict in a movie so soon after rehab..that mightta trigered the relapse, I know for me, certain songs, people and even placess i stay away from.its sad to see a promising kind hearted guy lose.the battle .
Re: mezzalenko – I'm not an expert or anything, but the ability to get drugs is just as easy in the US as it is in Canada.
I couldn't agree more! I thought drugs were pretty cool when I was a teen. Now I know I was an idiot!
I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying and the sadest part is when people see thing like the death ofmy formal romodel and favorite actor cory died people still take drugs and say well that's not going tohappen to me but it well
Why do Americans think that drugs and getting high are normal or funny things? There is nothing funny on talented people dying because of addiction, and there is nothing funny on normal people being killed by the drug mafias that control South and Central America. Cory's death is just the tip of the iceberg, there are thousands of people that are not even using drugs getting killed by the mafias to be able to deliver the product to the addicts in North America. It is really sad.
I totally agree celebs do make it look glamorous I have lost to childhood friends in the last 18months one accidental over dose from party drugs and the other because it messed his mind up caused mental problems and killed himself they do nothing but destroy good people and leave they family friends heartbroken
It's not fear that young people are missing in drug education. If scare tactics worked there wouldn't be a correlation between going through DARE and higher rates of teen drug use. What is needed is facts, nothing but fast, straight facts. Tell kids this is heroin, if you consume xxmg this will happen, if you consume this much mg that will happen. Tell them specifically what percentage of people who take mdma (or molly as you put it) die and which percentage end up in the hospital for serious side effects. Tell them what those serious side effects mean. Show them the miriads of human studies we've done on MDMA for use in PTSD/couples counseling, and why it didn't pass those trials. Tell them specifically what happens if you mix 2 downers together, how it just makes your brain forget to tell you to breath. Kids need facts. When we tell them that that pot will ruin your life then they see dozens of friends, parents, co-workers and bosses who do it regularly and have for years, who are just fine, they are going to realize what they were taught was an over reaction, then they are going to jump to the logical conclusion that everything they learned was a lie. If they were lied to about pot and mdma why wouldn't they have been lied to about heroin and meth? And if it's all a lie, why not try it? It's dangerous.
Re: Luis – he was 31 years old, not a kid…these were his friends too…
i feel really bad for lea michelle, but honestly i don't think anyone should be idolising cory as in the end he was a drug addict and i wouldn't wna follow the footsteps of a druggie now his family and everyone are suffering because of cory selfishness . what a shame he was young and talented
Totally agree with you. Celebrities who promote drug use, like Miley Cyrus and Rihanna are ignorant and are only interested in promoting their images and careers. They don't give a shit how these images they send out affect kids who look up to them and want to be like them. I'm glad you spoke up, but then why do you also supply these images and tweets about their drug use. Stop promoting them!
I agree Cory should not have played an addict. I don't think the producers & Directors of the movie should have let him do the role while he was still struggling with his own addictions & demons. I believe that Cory playing this character as an addict probably contributed to his decisions that lead to his death. My heart goes out Lea Michele & Cory's family. RIP Cory hope you are at peace.
Re: aus – I agree Cory should not have played an addict. I don't think the producers & Directors of the movie should have let him do the role while he was still struggling with his own addictions & demons. I believe that Cory playing this character as an addict probably contributed to his decisions that lead to his death. My heart goes out Lea Michele & Cory's family. RIP Cory hope you are at peace.
My thoughts are that he did it to himself and that you should stop milking it, you ape-faced, stupid homo. You are a disgusting piece of shit with no filter; you'll use anyone or anything to profit, won't you? Instead of offering nothing but your shallow moralizing, get off your selfish ass and go out into the streets and help DO something about the problem. You're all empty talk and NO ACTION.
That is the smartest thing you have ever said! I can tell you are a parent now. <3
Re: mezzalenko – you're absolutely right. I got also SO ANGRY with the fact that he was released after only 1 MONTH. I mean, what the hell! I don't think Demi Lovato stayed in rehab only for a month, and even if she did, her addictions were far more recent than Cory's, who became an addicted since 13. He def needed at least 3 months in rehab, he was making a life-changing thing, not anything to joke about.
I agree to every word you said, Perez! I really thought Cory was doing so well after rehab, but sadly he was still hiding something. He was and still will be my favorite from Glee I will miss him dearly
IT IS STILL BREAKING MY HEART AND I AM 58!! I WATCHED GLEE WITH MY GREAT NIECE FOR 5 YEARS AND I THOUGHT CORY *FINN* HAD IT ALL TOGETHER. YES, WHOMEVER, GAVE HIM THE DRUG(S) SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. ALTHOUGH THE DEALER DIDNT HOLD A GUN TO HIS HEAD. BUT DEALERS SHOULD BE CAUGHT AND THIS TRAGEDY MIGHT BE PREVENTED FROM HAPPENING TO ANOTHER VERY SPECIAL HUMAN. RIP COREY :"(
Well said Perez, well said.
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