Elisabeth Hasselbeck Needs To Go Back To High School!
Filed under: Elizabitch HasselbeckSheri must be real happy Elizabitch is back on The View.
On Monday's episode, Hasselbeck had a hard time remembering who was granted the right to vote first - women or people of color.
Thankfully, Whoopi put her in her place.
Click here to check it out!
P.S. Rosie must be laughing her ass off…in a very ANNOYING way.
Update: Whoopi was wrong?
Maybe we all could use a little history lesson!
Posted: January 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm
blacks could only vote in 5 states in 1855 and women could vote in 1920. However, black people really werent allowed to vote until 1944 when the white primary law was declared unconsitutional, you still had laws in each state restricting black voting rights
Yes, Whoppi was wrong, however I think she was noting that effectively blacks couldn't vote until the 1960's because of Jim Crow Laws. Even though blacks could vote in the 1864 by law.
Re: mary – but they still could vote, and women couldn't
Elisabeth was absolutely right. Black men were given the right to vote almost immediatley following the Civil War. Women, on the other hand, were not given the right to vote until 1920. The black man's right to vote was never revoked. What happened was the institution of "Black Codes" predominantly in the South. These were measures undertaken by the South to find loopholes in the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments so as to limit the freedom of black men. Bottom line: Elisabeth right, Whoopi wrong.
Re: Gary –
Gary is correct in his answer regarding the right to vote debate.
My personal opinion is the view is really another silly day time joke.
Who really doesn't know that black men got the vote (14th or 15 amendment to the contsitution i think) before women did? Women have been able to vote in this country for less then 100 years. They don't need to go back to high school. THey should try grade school first. Or maybe just read a book.
Whoopi is wrong.
13th amendment abolished slavery; 14th gave ex-slaves American citizenship; and 15th gave ex-slaves and blacks the right to vote.
19th gave women the right to vote decades AFTER ex-slaves and blacks.
BARBARA WALTERS WASN'T ON THE VIEW TODAY. I'M SURE SHE IS SOOOO EMBARRESSED, AS SHE HOULD BE!!! I HOPE SHE IS OFF GETTING A HISTORY LESSON OR TWO! HIDE YOUR HEAD MISS KNOW IT ALL.
AS I EXPECTED, THE VIEW DID NOT MADE A CORRECTION ON THE SHOW TODAY ON BEHALF OF ELISABETH AND THE REST OF THE EDUCATED WORLD!! ALSO, WHOOPI LEAD THE POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS ON LAST NIGHTS DEBATE AS WELL AS TOPICS REGARDING TELLING THE TRUTH!
WHOOPI HAD THAT SAME SMUG SELF RITGEOUS LOOK ON HER FACE TODAY THAT SHE HAD YESTERDAY WHEN SHE CORRECTED ELISABETH. WHOOPI SHOULD HAVE BEEN GRACIOUS AND MADE THE CORRECTION HERSELF AS SOON AS THE SHOW AIRED TODAY. THEY HAD SOOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TODAY ON THE SHOW TO RIGHT THIS WRONG. THEY DISCUSSED THE SAME TOPICS REGARDING RACE VS GENDER AGAIN TODAY AND CHOSE NOT TO MAKE THE CORRECTION. THE VIEW HAS NO CREDIBILITY AT THIS POINT!! CAN YOU IMAGINE THE DRAMA THAT WOULD'VE ENSUED IF ELISABETH WOULD HAVE WRONGLY CORRECTED WHOOPI ON SOMETHING REGARDING RACE? WHOOPI AND THE OTHER DINGBATS NEEDS TO JOIN BARBARA AND TAKE SOME TIME OFF WORK FOR A HISTORY LESSON!!
BARBARA WALTERS WASN'T ON THE VIEW TODAY. I'M SURE SHE IS SOOOO EMBARRESSED, AS SHE SHOULD BE!!! I HOPE SHE IS OFF GETTING A HISTORY LESSON OR TWO! GO HIDE YOUR HEAD MISS KNOW IT ALL.
AS I EXPECTED, THE VIEW DID NOT MAKE A CORRECTION ON THE SHOW TODAY ON BEHALF OF ELISABETH AND THE REST OF THE EDUCATED WORLD!! ALSO, WHOOPI LEAD THE POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS ON LAST NIGHTS DEBATE AS WELL AS TOPICS REGARDING TELLING THE TRUTH!
WHOOPI HAD THAT SAME SMUG SELF RITGEOUS LOOK ON HER FACE TODAY THAT SHE HAD YESTERDAY WHEN SHE WRONGLY CORRECTED ELISABETH. WHOOPI SHOULD HAVE BEEN GRACIOUS AND MADE THE CORRECTION HERSELF AS SOON AS THE SHOW AIRED TODAY. THEY HAD SOOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TODAY ON THE SHOW TO RIGHT THIS WRONG. THEY DISCUSSED THE SAME TOPICS REGARDING RACE VS GENDER AGAIN TODAY AND CHOSE NOT TO MAKE THE CORRECTION. THE VIEW HAS NO CREDIBILITY AT THIS POINT!! CAN YOU IMAGINE THE DRAMA THAT WOULD'VE ENSUED IF ELISABETH WOULD HAVE WRONGLY CORRECTED WHOOPI ON SOMETHING REGARDING RACE? WHOOPI AND THE OTHER DINGBATS NEEDS TO JOIN BARBARA AND TAKE SOME TIME OFF WORK FOR" A HISTORY LESSON"!!
somebody shut her fucking mouth already!!!
black men were able to vote in particular states since the late 1770s. women weren't able to vote until 1893, so Elizabeth was correct. Whoopi must have been confused by the passing of the Voting Rights Act in 1965 which reinforced a citizens right to vote regardless of their race.
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women were able to vote in 1940, black people were able to vote in 1965
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no, Whoopi is right. Females could vote in 1920, Blacks were able to vote from 1965
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Well actually, Elizabeth is right. The 15th Amendment to the Constitution in 1870 gave black MEN the right to vote. The 19th Amendment, passed in 1920, gave women the right to vote (both black and white).
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GOOD GRIEF PEOPLE! CAN ONE OF YOU CLARIFY THE DATES>>> CRAZY POSTINGS ALL OVER HERE WITH DIFFERENT YEARS! GET IT STRAIGHT!
I vaguely remembered that black men were able to vote prior to women, but I don't ever remember being taught that it wasn't "GUARANTEED" etc! OH WELL! I don't think that many people here are historians or knew the answer either.
Elizabitch is a barf bag… We all have skeletons in our closets, sure wish someone would dig hers up and make them public. (Knock her down a notch or two!) She's so holier than thou…
whoopi is an idiot. blacks were given the right to vote shortly after the civil war in the 15th amendment. women were given the right to vote with the 19th amendment in 1920.
Black men were given the right to vote in the 1870s in the 15th amendment, however, due to "Jim Crow" laws, they were still unfairly discriminated against. Women were given the right to vote in the 19th amendment, passed in 1920. "Jim Crow" laws were revoked in the 1960s.
AMAZING that none of the intelligent and worldly women on the VIEW knew the correct answer for this without a doubt!
nice how everyone will jump on elizabeth calling her a dumb bitch but oh yeah, wait, OMG!!! she was right!!!! maybe ya'll should all go back to school and get a fucking education.
She is afucking idiot. Hell….I liked Dabbie way better…..They need to get rid of her wasted space of a chair.
granted elizabeth is majorly stupid. but was she not accurate in her statement????? so shouldnt the post title be changed??
Re: frank – Just goes to show that like Perez most of readers are Morons too.
Re: char –
YOU ARE AS DUMB AS WHOOPI. DO YOU THINK THE CIVIL WAR WAS AFTER 1920 OR SOMETHING? BLACKS WERE GIVEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE WITH THE 15TH AMENDMENT IN 1870 FOLLOWING THE CIVIL WAR. THE WOMENS RIGHT WAS GIVEN BY THE 19TH AMENDMENT IN 1920.
Re: ARE YOU KIDDING ME – Seriously, who feeling ashamed now? Don’t be so quick to accept what others say as the truth. Because it really shows your own ignorance when you start calling someone names and then you find out they where right. Who knew America was full of so many stupid and gullible people!! Maybe some of you need to venture out read a book and stop watching so much TV if you don’t even know the answer to basic history.
Re: char –
Char you are an idiot
black men- 1870
woman-1920
Women weren't given the right to vote until 1920. Blacks (male) were able to vote after the civil war. But in some southern state, legislation was passed to prevent this. But blacks had the right to vote LONG LONG before women.
Re: Amy –
True! Liberals are retarded, simple-minded beings who get all their "facts" from sources like the View.
According to 15th Amendment African American men were given the right to vote in 1870. Women under the 19th amendment could vote in 1920. Yet many African Americans endured limitations in terms of voting and ended up ACTUALLY voting in 1960's. So both Whoopi and Elizabeth are in a draw here:)
Blacks were allowed to vote first (15th amendment- 1870)
Women Suffrage (19th amendment -1920)
Re: frank –
i seriously think you are….
Just in case no one knows or has stated the truth, I will.
Black men granted voting rights in 1868 with the passage of the 14th Amendment.
Women granted in 1920 with the 19th Amendent.
Elisabeth is white bread straight out of a trailer park. What else could you expect from this bible beating nimrod?
Whoopi is a freaking idiot! Come on Perez, look things up before you go and give Elizabeth crap for it . I love you, but you are WAY too biased!
In the United States, suffrage is determined by the separate states, not federally. There is no national "right to vote". The states and the people have changed the U.S. Constitution five times to disallow states from limiting suffrage, thereby expanding it.
15th Amendment (1870): no law may restrict any race from voting
19th Amendment (1920): no law may restrict any sex from voting
23rd Amendment (1961): residents of the District of Columbia can vote for the President and Vice-President
24th Amendment (1964): neither Congress nor the states may condition the right to vote in federal elections on payment of a poll tax or other type of tax
26th Amendment (1971): no law may restrict those 18 years of age or older from voting because of their age
Elisabeth was correct. If you were a wealthy, black male land owner, you could vote if the whites in town did not beat the crap ot of you for it.
whoopi was wrong! i just learned all about this in school, LAST year. A black MAN was allowed to vote before a woman. Black MEN were allowed to vote right after the Emancipation Proclamation( ca. 1863)….not many did, tho. WOMEN got the vote in 1920. read the Constitution, it was drilled into my head by my psycho teacher, ElizaBITCH(whom i happen to like) was right!
Re: HOW DUMB ARE YOU??!!! –
Um.. I guess you are a little illiterate and didn't comprehend my statement FOLLOWING FOUR quotes I took off of FOUR different posts on this thread! WOW! Reading comprehension anyone???
Gee #939, thanks for reposting what about 1000 people said right before you. Maybe you will understand my post after you read it a few hundred more times since your mental capacity for understanding is dismal.
Woopi is an idiot. Elizebeth is right, black men got the vote before women.
Is this just another instance of blacks trying to make it look ike their history was so difficult?
I think so.
And also, what a dumb ass black lady Woopi is.
hahahahah whoopi is soo wrong!!
and she make it sound like she was a black man.. her male ansestors were allowed to vote many many years before any woman… try almost a hundred year difference..
stupid bitch!
While Black men officially had the right to vote in 1870 it wasn't until 1963 with the civil rights act that they actually had full opportunity to vote…they had Jim Crow and other voting acts restricting their actual right to vote especially in the South…and arguably because of other institutional blocks they still don't have full opportunity to vote (remember Florida). So yes, officially black men had the right to vote but technically a white woman (like Elizabeth and Hillary) had the meaningful right to vote first and still have more power to vote and more opportunity especially a rich white woman.
Um Whoopi is totally wrong…
THIS POOR GIRL IS CLUELESS ON EVERYTHING, WHAT THE HELL IS SHE DOING ON THE VIEW, CANT Ms. WALTERS FIND A REPLACEMENT. THERE LOTS OF SMART WOMEN THAT CAN FILL THE SPOT.ENOUGH OF HER ALREADY ROSIE WAS MUCH MORE INFORMED.
fuck whoopi! black men could vote before women. she said it in such a im smarter than you way. she is a dumb bitch!
If society today was so evolved as people say it is, it wouldn't even be considered such a big deal that a woman and an african american are candidates.
Black men got the vote in 1870 and women 1920. Wish Elisabeth was wrong but she is not, WHoopi is.
Re: Whatever – Your a moron. Get a history book you racist dick. Elisabeth is right. Blacks got the vote 50 years before women.
Re: Tobes –
you are right… black men got to vote far before women did.
yeah sadly whoopi was wrong.
quick history lesson. African Americans were granted the right to vote first..BUT of course that doesn't mean they were physically allowed to vote because of the obstacles that existed.
then Women gained the right to vote i think in the 1920s.
African American vote is the 15th amendent ( i think it was in the 1870s)
and the women right to vote is the 19th amendent
I hate when people r loud&&wrong. or try to correct people…but they r wrong.
I am in AP US history and whoopi was DEFINITLY wrong
black men were given the right to vote in the 15th amendment - right after the civil war and women were given the right in the 19th amendment - which wasnt untill later in the 1900s!!!
elizabeth was right, theyre all stupid. 15th amendment african americans can vote, 19th amendment women get the right to vote. its not that complicated.
I can't stand elisabeth.
She annoys me more than Rosie ever did!!!!
Racial sufferage-15th amendment
women's sufferage-19th amendment
And I believe there were 50 years b/w those amendments.
Okay wow.
You're all idiots.
The 15th Amendment which ensures Black Men the right to vote was in 1869
The 19th Amendment, which was for Women's Suffrage, was in 1919
Even though Black voting was hard to do until 1962 when they eliminated poll taxes and what not, it was still techinically legal before women's. So neither was right or wrong, it was a misunderstanding.
So wrong! Black men were first to vote, long before women.
How embarrassing.
15th Amendment (1870): no law may restrict any race from voting
19th Amendment (1920): no law may restrict any sex from voting
What an idiot she looks like a complete twat for making such a big point of correcting her!!!
Black men were given the right to vote with the 15th amendment, following the civil war. Women couldn't vote until the 19th amendment was passed during WWI. Technically, Elizabeth is right, but in reality blacks didn't achieve full legal voting rights untill the Civil Rights movement came along and allowed them all the vote. Whoopi doesn't make it clear what kind of vote she means.
People of color had the right to vote first as established by the 15th amendment to the Constitution in 1870. Women did not nationally win the right to vote until the 19th amendment in the 1920's. Look up your facts before you climb up on your high horse.
ugh, Elizabeth was right the first time. Black men were granted the right to vote with the passing of the 14th ammendment. It was difficult to excercise the right to vote with the crazy restictions southern states place on voting but they had the right before women were granted it in 1920. Seems like everyone BUT elizabeth needs a history lesson. Too bad she second guessed herself.
Re: MARLENE – Replace her with WHAT, a smart woman like you? Oh and by the way PLEASE don’t reproduce. OBVIOUSLY America is over run with ignorant idiots that don’t know anything like yourself….. Smart Yes and here is “YOUR STUPID CARD”
Re: Gary –
Actually Genius…black people were given the right to vote before women. The right to vote was not taken away from them. Jim Crowe laws made it difficult for ALL black people to vote. In order for the US to take that right away they would need to make an amendment to the consitution. Since I do not remember that happening, I would have to say you're wrong and you should get your facts straight.
im in eighth grade and i know the answer to this the 15th amendment gave voting rights to african americans and the 24th amendment gave voting rights to women
THANK!! you to the Smart People who knew this….those of you who didn’t. Here is some advice get a library card go get this really amazing thing called a book.. I know it’s hard to remember what that is but you can do it. First you open in up, make sure the book is not upside down, find a page with these things called words and then you …..READ
Re: me – Actually your wrong, go back and read the constitution and do a little history check. Blacks were considered to be worth 1/3 a person for counts when it came to electing congressman. And the south made "im crowe", which would also find itslef in an ammendment later.
african americans received the right to vote before women. Amendment 15 granted voting rights to african americans. Amendment 19 granted women voting rights.
Whether it was people of color or women who received the vote first, I still think Elizabeth and many others are missing the point. Based on the above clip, the whole discussion was regarding who Americans would be most likely to vote for: a black man or a woman. I think Elizabeth's comment was a "post hoc ergo propter hoc" logical fallacy, where she assumes that because blacks got to vote before women, it means we are presumably more sexist than racist. This is completely ignorant of the historical factors that influenced both of these Amendments, and it does not answer the question of whether we would vote for a black man or a woman in the 21st century.
BLACKS GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE BEFORE WOMEN. The 15th amendment, which gave blacks the right to vote, was passed before the 19th amendment (which gave woman the right to vote on August 20, 1920!!!!)
BLACKS COULD VOTE BEFORE WOMEN!!!!!!!! I'm voting for Hillary Clinton
i general hate elizabeth hasselback, but . . .
black men were granted the right to vote by the 15th amendment which was ratified in 1870.
women (white and otherwise) were not granted the right to vote until 1920 by the 19th amendment.
so black men were granted the right to vote (although local racists may have made it hard to exercise said right) about 50 years before women.
and what's this "we," whoopi is using? does she wake up and decide whether she's going to be black or female that day?
Re: work it – Your so right if it would have been Elizabeth it would have made the nightly news. They would of had experts analyzing her statment and her body language. The they would spin it to be the Republicans fault. I'm sure the NAACP would fight for her to be fired and try to disgrace her publicly.
i think its really sad that it took 29 comments before anyone pointed out whoopi was wrong, then, even after correction other continued to mock ms. hasselbeck.
i am surprised no one i the audience corrected whoopi, this is pretty basic american history.
yeah whoopi was wrong, by about 50 years!! and these people get paid for us to listen to their thoughts on things? c'mon, i'd rather listen to my drunk stepfather talk about politics. jezus.
I can't believe so many people went along with you and cussed Elizabeth for everything she's worth, when she was (and usually is) right!
I love you, Perez….but you need to be more fair.
if you think about it-
because of grandfather clauses, white women were able to vote before black men. (technically, black men could first but not in practice).
I'm pretty sure the 15th amendment gave African Americans the right to vote and the 19th gave women.
black males… technically. although rules like the grandfather clause prevented them from really getting to vote. women could not offically vote until the 19th amendment.
whoopi was wrong, blacks voted after the civil war, while women couldnt vote till the 1920s
Re: THE WORLD IS FLAT – ure a moran u rascist cunt
You guys are total idiots. LOL…Elizabeth was correct.
I know Whoopi's not the most feminine thing on the planet, but I couldn't help but notice her statement: "Women got to vote before we did." I guess she's black but not a woman. Plus she's wrong, and she very smuggly and condescendingly made an ass out of Elizabeth when Elizabeth was actually right. I went to law school, but like most of the people who have commented on here have already shown, you don't need a law degree to know that Whoopi's wrong. It's disgusting that the show didn't make her correct herself. It's just another example of The View passing on incorrect information and being too proud or too embarrassed to set the record straight. Unfortunately, her statement just made America more politically ignorant than it already is.
This is another example of liberals screaming racism, when in fact there is no one more racist than a liberal.
Republicans freed the slaves.
In the past seven years A Republican made a decision to free 50 million people. 25 million people in Afghanistan and 25 million people in Iraq.
TECHNICALLY, black men were given the right to vote first, but JIM CROW LAWS took their ability away (literary tests, grandfather clauses, pole tax) so YES, they could vote, if they could read, their grandfather was a voter, and/or they paid the pole tax, but that basically left NO African Americans eligible to vote.
It is true that African American men were given the right to vote when universal male suffrage was granted in 1870, but they were quickly disenfranchisement by the Poll Tax, the Literacy Clause, and the Grandfather Clause, which pretty much excluded African-Americans form voting until the 50's and 60's, namely in the Voting Rights Act of 1965 which removed the poll tax, the literacy clause, and the grandfather clause from law.
As we all know, women were granted the right to vote in 1920, but that still excluded African American women. So, following Elizabeth's logic, this country is ready for a man, but not a black man, a woman, but not a black woman, and then finally a black person.
History lesson, concluded.
Hahaha! I'm Dutch and even I know that women got the vote later. Whoopi is confused because of LBJ's voting act which guaranteed that there would be no infringements on the right to vote, like the 'grandfatherclause'.
just because shes republican doesnt make her a dumbass
whoopi is wrong-black males first, all women 2nd-read the the constitution!
jeez perez just cause you hate republicans bet your face is red. of course blacks got the right to vote before women, thats why after everyone being up Hillary's butt there was a mass turn to Obama
I'm a woman and not a democrat but will vote for Hillary. Girls rule!!!
History lesson from Issues2000.org
In 1865, following the Civil War, African-Americans were given the right to vote and the "3/5ths clause" was rescinded. (14th and 15th Amendment). The clause relevant to your question is the 15th Amendment, article 1: "The right… to vote shall not be denied or abridged… on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." (the "previous condition of servitude" meant that states couldn't deny the right to vote to those who had been slaves).
For 90 years thereafter, states did all sorts of things to abridge the right to vote for African-Americans. The main means were seemingly "objective" criteria like "literacy laws," which required that a person be able to read before they could register to vote. Since most African-Americans at the time were illiterate, that effectively prevented their voting. There were many cases before the Supreme Court, mostly in southern states, in which means of blocking the vote were removed.
Women won the right to vote in 1920. So Elizabeth was correct!
OMG WHOOPI ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! Women didn't get the vote until 1920!! HELLO! Has she never seen the VIDEO footage of a suffragette throwing herself under a carriage committing suicide just in the name of womens right to vote??
Umm perez please look shit up before u post it as fact. how can voting citizens like urself who have so mny opinions on the upcoming election not know such a basic and important historical fact of our country?? african americans were given the right to vote with the 13th ammendment in 1965! they faced many difficulties being able to practive that right because of literacy tests, grandfather clauses, and other prejudiced laws until the 1960s. women did not have legal right to vote until 1919. perez u are stupid.
omg perez's staff is retarded for not catching that before printing the story. fucking retards!!! 13th 14th 15th amendments fucking dumasses!! that was way before. and i dont wanna hear all this bullshit about technicality!! its in the fucking constitution retards
omg its so funny how everyone is calling her stupid when they are wrong!!! haha retards
Re: frank – ya thats really sad
Re: Whatever – funny that you are the one thats wrong and "blind to truth"
Whoppi was actually wromg in this case…Black men ( unfortunately, not black women) were given the right to vote several years after the end of civil war…but they never were allowed to official vote, and their voices be heard until decades after women were given the right to vote, which was 1928
only a dumbass doesn't know that black people voted before women.
what was she thinking?
trying to be a smartass.
Whoopi should not have the right to vote. First, she was incorrect, and then she said, women got the vote before we did. Isn't she a woman? When women got the vote, all women got the vote regardless of color. Sad that Elizabitch was correct and Barbara knows so little of her history she couldn't correct Whoopi. Fire them all!
actually, Elizabeth was right…I'm sorry to let you know this, but all the answers saying "women" are wrong. The women of the US earned the right to vote with the 19th Amendment, MEN of color with the 15th.
"Black voters came out strongly for the Republicans in the 1868 elections, helping Grant win the presidency." … "but women would not receive the right to vote until 1920."
I can not stand Elisabeth, anyone that would back up Bush for sending troops overseas to murder and get murdered themselves is just plan egnorant. Bush should be held accountable for his actions, he murdered all of these soldiers that was sent over to protect us. Any way I am a white woman and I know black men had the right to vote first then women, Elisabeth was right a little but I think she is intimidated by a woman president and a democrat at that.
Yes, Whoopi was wrong! African American did gain the right to vote before women. Does anyone remember something called the civil rights movement? I think Whoopi owes Elizabeth an apology.
sorry to say it whoopi was wrong but i think perez should have done his research…the people of color actually got the right to vote before women did…the people of color got the right to vote with the 15th amendment which was ratified in 1870 while women did not get the right to vote until the 19th amendment which was ratified in 1919…y'all need to get your facts right before you start accusing people of needing to go back to high school…i think whoopi and perez are the ones that need to go back to high school…no offense
is there a " i hate elisabeth hasselbeck " website? ill sign up for it!!!!!!!!!