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Elisabeth Hasselbeck Needs To Go Back To High School!
Filed under: Elizabitch HasselbeckSheri must be real happy Elizabitch is back on The View.
On Monday's episode, Hasselbeck had a hard time remembering who was granted the right to vote first - women or people of color.
Thankfully, Whoopi put her in her place.
Click here to check it out!
P.S. Rosie must be laughing her ass off…in a very ANNOYING way.
Update: Whoopi was wrong?
Maybe we all could use a little history lesson!
Posted: January 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I love how quickly a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon and "agreed" that she was dumb and "needed to go back to school", yet they were wrong too. Hilarious! Made me laugh. Those of you who did that look like little perez puppets. Lame. And Perez, I normally love you but this was the first time you really truly looked like a dumbass.
WHOOPIE'S WRONG…i hate it when Elisabeth is right.
Re: Andrea – much props for representing the conservative elizabeth respecting females on this incredibly biased website
Black men were given the right to vote after the civil war and women were given the right in the 1920's however, due to racism many blacks were not allowed to vote period. It wasn't until the CIVIL RIGHTS ACT in the 1960's that municipalities had to allow everyone to vote.
Re: Truthbetold – too funny,,,, hey, if this Obama guy wins because of the black vote,,,, & turns out to be some kind of nut,,, i'm gonna be pissed off at all these "afro-americans" haha,,, hey, it is not our fault our ancestors were flying around in boats & shit……living in houses & so on… While they were chuckin' spears…..haha…….i'm messed up!!!,,,,,,sad, but true. There own people sold them to us and they were black,, it was called the slave trade!!~~~~ i do like some black pepole, i'm just playing, but givin' the chance they will sell you out,, they truely hate our asses, o'well?!
Re: Susie Q –
Thank you Suzy Q! It's hard for a black woman in the man's world. And I mean ALL men not just a white man's world. At the end of the day men live by the adage, "Bros before hoes." The good ole boys club is alive and kicking.
While I don't like Elisabeth, and I do like Whoopi, I'm fairly certain that the 13th Amendment came before the 19th Amendment.
I wish people would all stop with the complaining and move on already. Historically, most people have been discriminated against one way or another. My ancestors were burned in ovens. We are all of the same race, HUMAN.
you all are soo stupid. 13th amendment gave blacks the right vote (black men that is) and the 19th gave women the right to vote. Liz was right. Whoopi needs to read up on black history.
I mean thats awesome that WHOOPI was wrong and not Elisabeth. African-Americans gained suffrage with the 14th amendment which extended all rights of citizens to slaves. The 19th amendment, ratified in 1920, gave women the right to vote. Unless Whoopi is refering the the outlawing of poll taxes, literacy tests, and grandfather clauses, granted by the 24th amendment, then she is right.
Whoopi Goldberg is an idiot, blacks got the right to vote with the 15th amendment, women got the right to vote with the 19th… Maybe Whoopi should take her higher than thou attitude back to highschool
Please, don't any of you vote. Better yet don't come out of the house, ever. Aside from the stupid racist comments by the majority of rednecks here, the lack of knowledge makes it clear that perhaps the vote to only be given to those who can pass a basic American History test. So, the only conclusion one can draw is that there are very few people who should be allowed in the voting booths at all!
Didn't black men get the vote after the Civil war and women didn't until Sufferage in the 1920's???
whoopi goldberg is such a dumbass. i am a black female and i knew that black men had the right to vote before women did (disenfranchisement aside)..jeeeesusssss. hate on hasselbeck all you want for being conservative, but she is definitely more intelligent than any of those women.
Aaaaahahahaha at all of you assholes that jumped on the perez wagon. I have to look closely… did any of you apologize for being wrong? Nope… typical.
The 15th Amendment ratified 1870
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
The 19th Amendment ratified 1920The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Come on you guys.
Jim Crow laws were in the SOUTH. Remember in school we heard the seperate but equal garbage preached by the south? That was the Jim Crow laws.
They were NOT repealed by the Civil Right Act either.
They were found uncostitutional by the Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia.
Black men were given the right to vote after the Civil war, well before women, however Grandfather clauses, literacy tests and other rules and a poll tax prevented black men from voting well into the 60's with the passing of the Voting Rights act.
That is the short history lesson of the day!
YES Whoopi was wrong. And YES Hasslebitch is an idiot for not standing her ground. Why are celebrities almost always stupid and uneducated? And why must they continue to talk about things as if they ARE intelligent or as if they have any general information from which to base their opinions? When one has that kind of money at their disposal, to not use it to better and educate yourself makes you a waste of space. If one has the opportunity to attend college and doesn't take it, I think you suck. At life.
It's terribly sad when blacks say there's still so much racism and they are held back bkz of it. Everything they need to make a wonderful life is already theirs, if they could focus on something other than self pity for a moment. When Africans emigrate to the US they cannot believe how backward American blacks are. They know what REAL oppression is and see the multitude of opportunities that American blacks throw away with both hands.
Re: costamesaboy –
Or at least hire a moderator who can remove offensive posts. I really like your site, but I will stop visiting if every time I read the comments I am bombarded by RACIST, SEXIST and overall demeaning comments. This is not about freedom of speech but more about a group of angry losers who feel brave when sitting behind their computer screens. If these a**holes want to post racist comments make them go somewhere else. Please, I could even be your moderator. I am so tired of angry people, saying evil things and insulting my people whenever they get the chance.
Please—from one person of color to another. Let's help stop the madness.
Oh and comaboy, you really need to get a life or move someplace where there are no people of color. Good luck with that and good luck with your life…loser.
Wow that just goes to show how racist our country still is. The notion of having a woman or a black man as president really scares the hell out of some people. All I know is either Hillary or Obama could do a whole hell of a better job than our current president. The sad part is we are going get another republican elected president because people cannot get over their predujices. Think about it, on election day when there is a choice of say McCain and Hillary or McCain and Obama many people jump ship and vote for the white guy. Sadly, I don't Hillary or Obama are electable so people should start supporting John Edwards unless they want another republican president.
Re: Tobes – Thank god someone else on this site actually knows their constitutional amendments! Nice Job!
I hate Elisabeth hasselbeck,or hasselhoff or whatever the fuck her name is! she sucks! just looking at her face makes me wanna puke! we need more women like whoopi,she rocks!
Black men were given the right to vote in 1870. But many efforts were made to restrict him of the right to vote. It was not until 1965, during the Civil Rights movement, that black men and women were given the right to vote and all the previous restrictions were considered unlawful. Women were given the right to vote in 1920. And as part of their argument to have the right to vote they said things like, shouldn't we be given the right to vote before black people? Aren't we worth more then they are? I would agree with Whoopi, that white women were given the right to vote before black people were. The law was there, allowing black men to vote, but the white men (as usual) did everything he could to stop black male equality. Let's just blame it on the white male because it's ALWAYS his fault!!!
you TARD Perez. you are dissing EH and you are the fucknut that needs to go back to miami elementary for a 3rd grade history book. change the title to, im the dumbshit that talks smack but doesnt know either…
For christ sakes perez, and whoopi and the rest of America. PAY ATTENTION IN SCHOOL morons. Blacks were the first to earn a right to vote, and if you remember anything about history you would know the whole thing that went on between the leaders of the womens group-susan b anthoney (WHOSE FACE was placed ont SILVER DOLLAR for several year) and of the african american group led by frederick douglass where after initially both working united to gain rights for blacks AND Women Douglas and other black leaders concluded they would not be able to garnish enough support for both changeds and thus changed to a pure black vote platform. She was instrumental in helping get the black vote, and in a way those early women leaders sacrificed their own rights in order to promote the black vote. women would have to wait an additional FIFTY YEARS for the right. Frankly I do not think you can talk about the changes in the rights of Black without including Anthony in the discussion.
Re: Shamzy –
You don't know what you are talking about. Women did not gain the right to vote in Federal Elections until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was ratified. Prior to that, legislation had been proposed and rescinded at the local level in a few states. The Fifteenth Amendment, which was ratified in 1870, gave black men the right to vote. What happened is that southern Democrats - who had been adamantly pro-slavery - regained control of their states through a variety of means, and once they did, they enacted barriers to keep blacks from voting, such as the Jim Crow laws. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 outlawed those ridiculous requirements, permanantly banning poll taxes and literacy tests as a requirement to vote. So, technically Whoopi was wrong - the right of black men to vote was federally recognized 1870, but they were systematically denied that right due to Jim Crow laws; women's right to vote was federally recognized in 1920.
technically they are both right. women were granted the right to vote in 1920. in 1865 the 15th amendment gave african-americans the right to vote, but 90 years of state laws prohibited blacks from voting until the civil rights movement changed that, well after the women's suffrage movement succeeded. I don't doubt for a minute that whoopi knows all this, i'm on her side. nice to see your blog sparking some history lessons on mlk day.
oh my god. thankyou comment #31 gary, you are right, and I was thinking the same thing, sorry perez.
she's not totally wrong, black MEN could vote before white WOMEN
but black women came last- so when whoopi refers to herself as being the last to vote it's true
Re: Shamzy –
Lets make this REALLY easy.
Black men got the right to vote after the Civil War (1870).
Women got the right to vote in the early 20th century (1920).
Were there poll taxes and such, of course. It is, however, nonsense to say that blacks had no political influence or de facto right to vote until the mid 1960s. Hiram Rhodes Revels was the first black man elected to the Senate… in 1870. If you have no clue what you're talking about, don't.
And why didn't Walters correct anyone? The great 'journalist' doesn't know her history either?
WOMEN VOTED BEFORE BLACK PEOPLE. GOOGLE FIRST WOMAN VOTER AND IT STATES LYDIA TAFT WAS VOTING ON RECORD IN 1756. WHILE THE FIRST BLACK VOTER WAS in march of 1870. SO AMMENDMENT WISE YES BLACKS GOT THE "LEGAL" RIGHT FIRST WOMEN WERE VOTING WAY BEFORE THAT.
Re: d –
#417…..are dirty kikes allowed to vote now, too? Oy Vey!!11!!
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Re: d –
#417…..are dirty kikes allowed to vote now, too? Oy Vey!!11!!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, WHAT THE FUCKING HELL!! ALL THE PEOPLE HERE IN THE BEGINNING WHO ARE ALL LIKE, "OH, ELISABETH IS A MORON. SHE DIDN'T KNOW WOMEN RECEIVED THE RIGHTS TO VOTE FIRST" ARE FUCKING MORONS. IDIOTS. YOU CALL YOURSELVES AMERICANS?! PSHA. A PITY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE WHOOPI ON THIS SHOW. SHE DOESN'T KNOW SHIT. SAD DAY FOR AMERICA. FUCKING IDIOTS.
Elisabeth was right. Whoopi was wrong.
1870 black men were allowed to vote.
1920 women were given the right to vote across the U.S.
Helllllllooooooo? What is everyone learning is school these days (or way back when?) I love Whoopi but even I knew that black men were afforded the vote after the Civil War only to have it taken away! I can't believe EH backed off from this…Hate her or not, she was right!
Uh, maybe some other so-called "experts" need to go back to high school!
Blacks had the right to vote before women. They were given the right with the 14th amendment and women with the 21st amendment.
Elizabeth was just guessing here. When Whoopi corrected her (whether she was right or wrong), she goes off to say she was mixed up. You can tell in the way she said that retraction that she wasn't really sure. So the people who are giving Elizabeth credit for being technically correct are being far too kind to her. She was guessing!!
And if she was right or wrong, the way the country was X years ago, doesn't mean the country is the same way today. So her logic about the country's leaning more towards sexism/racism based on old rulings is faulty.
Sherri is definitely as dumb as rock. But I think Elizabeth is not far behind her being as dumb as a fencepost.
I know she is smart, but I fucking hate that cunt. She's SOOOO too arrogant for her own good.
Whoopi was off by 50 years. And then when she corrected herself she said the right of black men to vote was taken away. It was not. Discrimination at the polls effectively took that right away in some places, but the right was never taken away by law.
Maybe check your facts next time, you stupid fat cunt.
It's been pointed out many times already that Elisabeth was indeed correct with her original statement.
Don't you think the headline needs to be scratched out to say that most of you need to go back to high school- NOT Elisabeth.
What must your IQ be to actually sit down and watch this idiocy?
Re: THE WORLD IS FLAT – Generalizing gets no one anywhere. There are stupid whites, stupid blacks, stupid asians, and stupid hispanics in this country.
You're so eager to criticize Elisabeth that you don't even know what's going on. What's even more hilarious is that all these ass-worthy comments call Elisabeth stupid when she is the one who's right.
whoopi was completely right. woman got the right to vote in 1919, it's the 19th amendment. african americans didn't get that right until the 1960s. hasselbeck is retarded.
how about editing your title perez and put Whoopie in the bold caps most people see and they don't even read the update part and there will be a cold day in hell when Rosie is smarter the elizabeth
so even if Elizabeth was wrong she would be away ahead of the stupid shit rosie said on that show the brief time she was there
Hey Perez, "Maybe WE" "could use a history lesson??? How about YOU. You dumb fuck.
youre a fucking dumbass perez; actually the blonde bitch is right. i think i learned in like my 5th grade american history class about the constitution and the amendments. You have a fucking stick so far up your ass thinking you are God, when you don't know shit. Maybe you should research something before you post it; however if you had an intelligence you would know about the amendments. Maybe you should go back to high school? peaceout.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
CONTECT OF THEIR CHARACTER.
for some of the people posting in this blog- they should think about what their words say about their integrity and content of their character.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER.
for some of the people posting in this blog- they should think about what their words say about their integrity and content of their character.
youre a fucking dumbass perez; actually the blonde bitch is right. i think i learned in like my 5th grade american history class about the constitution and the amendments. You have a fucking stick so far up your ass thinking you are God, when you don't know shit. Maybe you should research something before you post it; however if you had an intelligence you would know about the amendments. Maybe you should go back to high school? peaceout.
It hurts me to defend Elisabeth but she was right the 16th Amendment granting blacks men the right to vote was passed in 1870 and women did not get the vote until 1920 with the 19th Amendment.
the women's movement predates the civil rights movement by decades, quite a few decades. white women were able to vote when black men and women were dying [read: being murder] because they were fighting for the right to.
#1: Elisabeth was right.
#2: Doesn't that make Whoopi the moron? And didn't it bother anyone else that she said "women had the right to vote before WE did?" is she not also a woman? i was annoyed that she only included herself in the category of african americans and not also into the category of women.
#3: it shouldn't be such an issue because we ALL have the right to vote now.
Blacks didn't get to actually exercise their right to vote (which was endoctrinated in the 15th amendment in 1870) until the 1960s. Americans are all dumb. Whoopi is right, Elisabeth is a dumbass
Black males obtained the right to vote with the 15th amendment. There were of course things done after this in the deep south to prevent blacks from voting, but the right was there.
Elisabeth was right.
February 26, 1869 (ratified February 3, 1870).
AMENDMENT XV
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
omg….
why do you think there was a civil war???
just because?
it was so black men could be freed and so they could vote.
omg
i feel so sorry for whoopi.
and for everyone who agreed with her.
i love you perez but come on?
HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW????
and elizabeth is retarded for letting whoopi correct her
that show is full of shit
cant even have one smart woman who knows our amendments
I hate Elizabeth she is just plain stupid! Why did they bring that bitch back!?
i hope she at least admits she confused elizabeth when she 'corrected' her 'incorrectly' today, i assume she will
The 15th Amendment gave black men the right to vote after the Civil War. The 19th Amendment gave women the right to vote in 1920.
actually black males were given the right to vote in 1870 (15th amendment) and women in 1920 (19th amendment) Whoopi was so wrong!!!!!!! We hate to say it becuase we cant stand Elizabitch!
I think the big problem when answering the question of who got voting rights first is that two different branches of government were saying two different things. The Legislative branch was trying to pass a Civil Rights bill that allowed blacks to vote and would outlaw the Jim Crow laws (literacy tests, intelligence tests, property req. etc.)
However, the Judical branch was saying they had no right to intfere on an indiviuals right to be a racist. So, the Supreme Court was ruling for the Jim Crow laws and the Legislative was writing bills to try to stop them. And, anything brought to the Supreme Court to challenge what the legislators were doing was ruled against the Congress.
A hot topic still today!
Re: Whatever – Who is blind to the truth? You are the one blind to the historical truth AND not all white people are born to privilege.
whoppi was right, yes in the 1870's the race requirement to vote was "eliminated" by the 15th amendment, but African Americans really had the opportunity to vote in the 1960's 40 years after women
Blacks "could" vote in 1870, but not all 50 states were active until 1965. Women were given the right in 1920.
It's a technicallity. Were all stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 15th ammendment in 1870 gave black american males the right to vote.
The 19th ammendment in 1920 gave women the right to vote.
In 1965 the voting rights act was passed abolishing things like poll taxes which kept many african americans from voting.
LMFAO. what the hell?? elizabeth was right the first time!! change the headline because WHOOPI needs to go back to high school. that was so stupid!! omg.
whoopi is close, but no cigar. black men had the right to vote after the civil war, it was just the poll taxes and literacy tests that kept them from voting. you have to give hasselback this one.
Women weren't given the right to vote until 1920!!!
Black men were given the right following the Civil War.
Elisabeth is correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess she doesn't need to go back to high school after all.
Black people were able to vote in 1870 (15th amendment) women were able to vote august 26th 1920. Elizabeth actually did listen in highschool!…nice try whoopi
Re: Shamzy –
i dont know about canada, but women didnt get the vote until 1920. the 19th amendment. black men got the vote with 15th amendment.
15th amendment prohibiting restricting a person from voting based on race, color or position of servitude/slavery; 19th amendment granted women the right to vote; 15th amendment wasn't really upheld until 1965 civil rights movement though
Whoopi is off by 50 yrs. The 15th Amendmendt gave blacks the right to vote in 1870 and the 19th gave women the right to vote in 1920.
Re: OPRAH – Are u serious? I can't believe your kind even have access to computers. I'm embarrassed for you. You ingnorant racist mofo.
Actually Blacks were legally given the right to vote but were killed if they attempted to vote. That is why Whoopi made the comment she did. It was not until 1968 that Blacks were allowed to vote with ease
I don't know why people think she's just some dumb blonde on the show. I find her to be very educated…if not the MOST educated one on that show. GO TEAM IZZY.
Before the Civil War the United States Constitution did not provide specific protections for voting. Qualifications for voting were matters which neither the Constitution nor federal laws governed. At that time, although a few northern states permitted a small number of free black men to register and vote, slavery and restrictive state laws and practices led the franchise to be exercised almost exclusively by white males.
Ummm…Perez maybe you shouldn't act so smart. Just because you don't like Elizabeth doesn't mean she's stupid. The whole earth is flat thing was ridiculous, but this isn't at all. Most of America in general are a bunch of morons. I bet the majority couldn't tell you what time zone they are in.
Of course Whoopi was wrong– those idiots on the view are always spewing misinformation. Yes, black men had the right to vote (1870) before women got the right to vote (1920) –about 50 years before!!
Re: Americans r dumb – Several BLACK senators in the 1870's would disagree with your statements…… crack a book once in a while.
No, Whoopi was right. How can we Americans not even know our own history? The world around us knows American history better than we do. Sad. Women received the right to vote early in the twentieth century, and African Americans didn't receive that right until the civil rights movement, which was much later on. Come on guys!
Elizabitch sucks eggs.
Sure, Elisabeth was correct, but why did she then back off her stance and said she meant it the other way around? And none of the other panelists had a opinion; hence, all were ignorant to the fact.
Here are the facts:
15th amendment granted blacks the right to vote in 1870.
19th amendment granted women the right to vote in 1920.
Elisabeth was right!
Perez, maybe you need to go back to high school!
No, Whoopi was right. How can we Americans not even know our own history? The world around us knows American history better than we do. Sad. Women received the right to vote much earlier, and African Americans didn't receive that right until the civil rights movement, which was much later on. Come on guys!
Whoopi needs to brush up on her history. All together now..can we say The Lincoln Proclamation??? This abolished slavery and gave black men the right to vote..Then the 19th Ammendment in the 1920s gave women the right to vote. Elisabitch was right and should have stood up for herself.
Re: OPRAH – Why are you saying Whoopie's dumb, when she was actually correct? So, who's dumb?
MAYBE YOU need the education Fat boy!!!
LEaVe EliZaBetH AlooNNNnneee!!!! yuk yuk yuk!
Perez you are an idiot along with Whoppi. Women received the right to vote AFTER back men.
hhahaha african americans were able to vote before women
idiots.
Black men had the right to vote in 1870, women were not granted this right until 50 years late in 1920……
maybe you could use a history lesson perez, you really should stick to your funny comments and stay far way from questioning people's education because you are quite the moron. thanks
Re: ANITA –
yah the first woman voter was in 1756…which is actually BEFORE the united states was the united states..or a nation independant of England..or was organized under the modern Constitution..which, by the way genius, is the article to which the rights we are speaking of belong..so just calm down there. Also if you know anything about American history, there were plenty of states that had womens' suffrage before the 19th amendment, remember how our country was formed on a compromise of state vs. federal government; confederation vs federation, reserved/delegated powers, balance of power, etc?The 19th amendment was simply granting UNIVERSAL womens' suffrage, and thanks to the SUPREMACY CLAUSE as well as "incorporation" from the 14th amendment, it applied to all states. So to say no woman voted before the 19th amendment, as you seem to be negating through your "proof", is not only wrong, but common knowledge as being wrong to any person with a basic knowledge of our country's history..so thanks, but we don't need your help.
The 15th amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870.
The 19th amendment granted women the right to vote in 1920.
ihate that fucking whoopie and that dumb ass other black chick, they shoud go back to school to learn the constitution, and the other to learn if the Earth is round
Elizabeth is actually correct. Black men got the right to vote in 1870 and women got the right to vote in 1920. Check the history books!!!
I can't believe no one else caught this. This is really sad when no one knows US history anymore!!!
It is a confusing topic, but Whoopi is right. Although the fight started for black men in 1865, they were not guaranteed the right until 1965, some 35 years AFTER white women received the right in 1920. The 15th Amendment was added to the constitution in 1870 to protect black voting rights. Many black men voted over the next decade, but then many states started passing laws essentially blocking them from doing so. Some required voters to pass literacy tests or to pay poll taxes. Since most blacks had been slaves, few had any money or were able to read and write. This essentially made is impossible for them to vote. It remained this way until 1965.