Tragedy On Campus
Filed under: R.I.P.
A gunman opened fire at Northern Illinois University on Thursday, killing five people before taking his own life.
This shit makes us so angry!!!!
Why does it seem that kind of stuff happens so much in America but not other parts of the world????
That kind of violence just makes no sense.
Our thoughts with everyone affected by this tragedy.
Posted: February 15, 2008 at 7:24 am
I think that this is such a tragedy. I live in O'Fallon, Illinois which is 20 minutes outside St. Louis. This has hurt everyone everywhere. This is very sad. Watching the story on all of the news channels and seeing all of the hurt parents just is depressing. I think that America needs to do something about all of these school shootings, that kill many innocent students.
R.I.P.
Doesn't happen in other parts of the world? Are you kidding? There are plenty of other countries that would love our tragedies on a per capita basis, as they have to worry about suicide bombers and gunmen every day on the way to work or at the mall. We're a large country with a lot of people and people forget that.
That being said, as a college graduate, my heart goes out to the students and family of NIU. My college days were the best of my life filled with great memories, great friends and a feeling of security like no other. I couldn't imagine that being taken away.
I LIVE 15 MINUTES FROM NIU… U ALWAYS THINK THAT THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN SO CLOSE TO HOME…ITS SHOCKING FOR ALL OF US AND MY SINCERE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE FAMILIES AND STUDENTS. THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW TO NOT TAKE YOUR LOVED ONES FOR GRANTED. OUR DAYS ARE NEVER PROMISED.
agreed 100%. I don't understand…if you hate yourself so much to want to take your own life, then for god's sake don't go out to kill innocent, normal, SANE people you don't effin know. ughhhh pisses me off!!!
my prayers and thoughts with all those involved in this tragedy.
stupid kids. really? are you so jaded when you get to college that the only thrill is to kill a few people? despite the most clever gun laws guys, people will still get guns illegally (duh) and that's a huge problem. i was once robbed at gunpoint by a kid that couldn't have been more than 14. i wonder hwere he got that? regardless, it's a horrible event and my thoughts lay with the family and friends.
This is my alma mater. It's really sad. My heart goes out to all the victims' families.
Everytime I read about these kind of situations my heart stops. Thats because WE had this kind of tragedy in FINLAND like 6 months ago (google Jokela school shooting). And Finland is such a small country, it was the first time this kind of school shooting ever happened here. It destroyed our idea of our country.
The student shot 8 people and then himself.
why the fuck would you want it to happen to another parts of the world as well u idiot?? stupid what kinda writting is that?
whatever.. america is medicated.. that's 1 of the many reasons.. and the ”leader” is crap…….. that's another…..
Um GUN CONTROL much?
fat greasy pig, this kind of shit happens all the world– watch the world news sometime. you're stupid.
it is all because of the right to possess guns. You love to believe that u r so free in America because u r allowed to have guns but…All in all ur freedoms are resricted much more than in any other parts of the world. Give up the guns for your own good and your freedom won;t be affected.
You think wow this happens all the time, but this could never happen to me. Well this has really effected me because its so close to chicago. Half of my graduating class went there. Please pray for the victims and their families.
Cause in America, it's so easy to get a gun. That's why.
This is so sad. My heart goes out to the families that have endured this tragic loss of life. I think that we need to re-haul all of our gun control laws. It is far too easy and I don't believe this to be the case in many other countries. I am from NY and I can remember many an occasion that a student was caught with a gun in school. I can think of three in the two years that I attended a school in Manhattan. Unfortunate but a lot of youth out there place no value on life or that of others and overall lack respect for their elders. I for one am in my late twenties, but there is such a vast rift between the way I was brought up and teenagers now. Parents need to be more involved in their child's life and I feel that this would help, not solve but help a great deal.
NIU is 20 mins from my house and I have many friends who go there. The actual count of fatalities is now 7. Let's not make this an attack on the gov. and poor gun control laws. We need to focus on the families of the the victims and everyone who was apart of the tragic situation. There have been way too many shootings on school campuses not just colleges happening more and more. You never know when something like this is going to happen. Keep the families and friends in your thoughts and prayers and pray for the recovery of those that are fighting for their lives in the hospital. Be sure to tell your family and friends you love them whenever you get the chance for you never know when it will be the last time you get to.
people sometimes ask me why there are so few shooting deaths in England.
Hmm… perhaps it's the lack of guns.
Is it that people are less disturbed in other countries? I don't think so! It is because people who are disturbed in America have easy access to a weapon that makes them feel like they have control over situations where maybe they never felt they had control. I just finished watching Crash for the second time, and it was just so alarming how easy it was for the storekeeper to buy that gun, but it was also alarming how easily people used their guns without thinking first - it was the only answer to their problems.
Of course bullying and media coverage plays a part as well, but the bottom line is that it would be a lot harder for a person to massacre a large group of people without guns.
Keep the guns out of public hands - there is absolutley no reason for the public to have guns.
it's because of capitalism's working it's own population to self-annhilation
this is soooo sad!!! I'm an NIU alum and luckily everyone i know is ok. its just scary to know that stuff like this happens and unfortunately this hits way to close to home! my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by this tragedy
Take the guns away and stop bullying in schools. WTF, let's do something about this sh**!!!!
WELCOME TO AMERICA — this is why your country sucks. I don't feel sad at all — serves you right
Americans are forgetting that God is in the Declaration of Indepencence, One
nation under God. We are forgetting to let a higher power in to our lives, and
evil is winning. We can change that if we agree to it. The person who killed
will surely be finding that out, now that he is dead.
Anoymous
i go to virginia tech and it absolutely breaks my heart to see this happen again…
Actually Perez, this happened a couple of years ago in Canada.
I go to NIU…….it was terrifying……just keep us all in your prayers and thoughts
it happens because you guys have such flaky gun laws, unlike anywhere else, you don't NEED guns for self-protection, there would be far less harm done if there were no guns, than the "good" that is being done now with the guns.
fucking retards, can't you learn?!
Something similar happened in Montreal two years ago. Violence is everywhere, but I guess there's something about America that just makes people more violent.
IT DOES HAPPEN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD…you just dont hear it as much.
actually stuff like this does happen in Canada, just not as much. Does anyone else remeber the shooting at a high school in Tabor, Alberta….or the shootings at a montreal university?
Well, this is just a joke, right? You, Americans know all about ONLY your country. Of course you don't know what's going on here, in Europe, in Asia. Just a few months ago in Finland a schoolboy killed many of his co-students including himself.. now, a kindergarten is held hostage with kids by a crazy man with guns and explosions… i bet you didn't knew about that. And maybe, if you, Americans could just look at yourself like others do, maybe you'd understand that you all are just soooo self-centered and thinking always about yourselves. It's absolutely rude of you, Perez, to say "Why does it seem that kind of stuff happens so much in America but not other parts of the world????", because if you would see more than just your "perfect" America, then you'd know, that these kind of bad things are going on all over the world!!!! But nooo.. and maybe if your country would just care more about it's people and maybe if they'd do more to prevent the crimes and control illegal gun and drug smuggling, then maybe your country would be better and would be a place, "where everybody wants to get in", just like Megan said.
I am from IL and i have a lot of friends at NIU and I never thought that this tragedy could strike so close to home!! My thoughts and prayers are with the families, this is a true tragedy.
As a student at Northern Illinois University, I ask everyone to keep the victims and their families in your thoughts, rather than make comments on gun control. This is a difficult time for everyone and the immense support we have received it tremendous. Please continue to support the University and keep the negative comments to yourself.
Wake up people!! It's not about poor gun control laws…guns have been around since the dawn of time! It's about the sad f*ing state of health care in our country. If you've ever suffered from depression- or know someone that has- you know that it's next to impossible to get help if you don't have insurance…and next to impossible to get insurance if you're not wealthy! WAKE UP!
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Honestly, this is making me SO ANGRY, and Megan, you really need to learn more about the World, trust me, America's not the best country, and without America, the America, that exists now, I think the world would be a MUCH BETTER place. If you think about it, why is the war going on in Iraq? Because Americans are the world's biggest consumers, the world's biggest environment destroyers, the world's biggest nation, that is so dumb, that they only see, what they want to see and believe, what they want to believe, because if it weren't for you, Americans, we'd have more natural resources, more fresh water and less crimes, smuggling and other kind of criminal cases! You're DEFINITELY NOT THE BEST people in the world, NOT the best country in the world, in fact many other countries and many other nations think, that you, Americans, are the cause of the many bad things going on.
'Just some Guy' you are exactly what is wrong with this country. Your solution is to give more people guns to stop gun violence instead of trying to use gun control to stop maniacs from getting guns. Using your logic you would have to have these trained private citizens in every classroom of every school in the country just in case things like this happen - seems like a big waste of money to me. Doesn't it make more sense to try to prevent everyone from having guns?
Just watch Crash and see how allowing private citizens to have guns can escalate to situations that may not have been the original intention for the gun, but nonetheless get out of control.
When you teach people that violence is the best solution to their problems, then they will only turn to violence. If America is serious about solving these problems then they would think about that, but sadly I really don't think the government cares about solving this problem. They are content to just have the president issue a statement of condolence everytime it happens.
I dont know why you even ask the question…why does it happen so often in America? Well, you've got the not controlled gun laws, everything is measured by how much you have, how much you earn, how much you spend ect. That's very sad and I guess when you cant have it all….you'll just take it all.Lives that is.
sorry for those people who got killed…I hope your country learns somehow…
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Sorry, but it just IS the way. And i know you all might hate me because of saying this stuff, saying the TRUTH and you might think differently, but you know…. START TO LOOK AND THINK WIDER, START TO LOOK THE CAUSE OF THESE MANY ISSUES AND PROBLEMS BY STARTING TO FIND IT IN YOU, IN YOUR COUNTRY! DON'T BE SO VAINGLORIOUS, EGOISTIC, NARROW-MINDED AND SO ARROGANT!
By the way, Perez, this is not just about you, and i don't blame you, because i know, how you, Americans, are taught in schools, only learning about your own country etc.
And i really think you're doing a great work with this site! Keep up the good work
Anu, from Estonia ( i bet you don't even know it is a country or where it is )
only in america, only in america….
theres been many cases like this in germany and some in other parts of europe too. like in 2002, 18 students were killed when an expelled student went on a killing spree in the the eastern German city of Erfurt..
u said it perez!…it irritates me as well…i have a family member that goes to school there she is ok…yet this is just heartbreaking…so thank u for putting some perspective…and indeed "thoughts r w/ the families and victims of this tragedy"
My heart aches for the victims and their loved ones.
The US gov't has long used fear based tactics in order to gain support for fascist dictatorship, as well as to instigate and gain support for war. These horrible murders need to stop and won't unless American's truly see these things for what they are. These are PLANNED ATTACKS. Taking citizen's guns away and CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION, NOT SOME LITTLE LAW won't change this. Had any other weapon been used no one would even think to comment. Your being made to feel fear everywhere you go, work, school, church, shopping malls, forest adventures, family vacations. Then through 'reality' tv, you're being conditioned to the idea of being 'watched' in your home. There have been wars and riots in the streets elsewhere over the same gov't strong arm tactics the US is using. Look up Project Paperclip ( US gov't brought NAZI'S over to aid forming mind control techniques and the OSS, known later as the CIA), Gulf of Tonkin incident ( US attacks on it's OWN ship, the USS LIBERTY, in order to join the Vietnam invasion on August 2 and 4th, 1964), and for those who don't care about history, 9/11. We are being conditioned and geared up for martial law. You are supposed to say the logical solution to these attacks would be to take the guns from everyone but then who's left with the weapons? Military and black market traders. Yanking RIGHTS away and changing the constitution won't make these horrible murders stop.
Re: Jim – what freedoms? u.s.a. is an extremely repressed police country. to think that you have "freedoms" means that you've never been outside the united states and that you're just brainwashed.
well, we have guns and most other countries don't. and who knows, maybe it does happen, but we don't hear about it when it happens other places.
It does happen in other parts of the world-do your homework Perez-Do you remember the school shooting in Russia? Read something besides Variety for once.
maybe if every single dumbass in America (I'm not saying you are the only country with dumbasses) didn't have a gun, or easy access to one, things would be better.
I just graduated from NIU in December. Why do people have to be so stupid. If you have problems deal with them and don't take it out on other people. This guy is pathetic and should have just killed himself before harming other people. I have been in Cole Hall many times and cannot believe it. I was supposed to go to NIU tomorrow. I'll be going to student gatherings. My prayers and thoughts are with NIU and all the victims. Stay safe and be smart.
why does this crazy shit only happen in america??? Well, You might as well be able to buy guns at gas stations…I would have no idea how to go about finding a gun in canada…Some limitations on who can own a gun might help…frig, it blows my mind.
Sadle, it is the USA that has the highest amounts of shoot-outs and I am so glad you brought this TO Americas attention Perez. There are many factors: guns readily available, a HUGELY diverse population (with different ethics and values which can cause conflict) internet and online bullying and or just crying out for help because they are involved in gangs or drugs.
We may never understand this mindless violence, but we will always be affected by it.
Besides gun control laws, it is responsability of fu**ing parents to make sure that
- kids should have not access to arms
- stop bullying in schools
- if you know ur kid has a mental problem, take him to doctor for gods sake
- have the school take responsability also
PRAYERS WON'T HELP THE DEAD. STOP VIOLENCE NOW.
Hey guys. This actually does happen in Canada a lot too, it's just the public doesn't see it so much. In Montreal alone, there was a dozen shootings at schools, colleges and universities. Just two years ago there was a shooting at Dawson College, a girl died and dozens were injured. It happens everywhere.
Re: Leah –
Sweet dreams Leah….
Gun control is the answer.
It is harder to get a birth control pills/food without fat/beer that tastes good in the US than a gun.
PRAYERS WON'T HELP THE DEAD. STOP VIOLENCE NOW!
People kill not guns, but still…. they should be harder to get than they are. This kind of stuff is ridiculous. I feel sorry for people who think death is their only option … and they want to go out with a bang.. literally. It makes me mad that they think just cause they're done with life others should be too.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE LOVE AND SUPPORT EVERYONE HAS SHOWN TO NOTHERN STUDENTS, STAFF, FRIENDS AND FAMILY AS WELL AS TO THE CITY OF DEKALB.
THIS IS A PLAC WHERE I WAS BORN AND RAISED,
AND TO ANYONE WHO HAS LIVED OR BEEN THERE WE KNOW IT IS A SMALL COMMUNITY WHERE ER THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED
MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THOSE WHO WERE EFFECTED BY THIS
AND MY THANKS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE OFFERED US KIND WORDS
PRAYERS WON'T HELP THE DEAD. STOP VIOLENCE NOW.
Sorry but the stuff that goes on in the US is NOTHING compared to the crap people in Asia and Africa have to live through everyday. There are natural disasters there DAILY and you never even hear about it in the West.
It does happen in other countries dumbass
It's because there is no laws in your stupid country to prohibit guns!
because all medies are bad. children learn to shoot people from game. what mtv try to teach your children to be a good people? where parents are when kids need to know that it is violence thing…do they teach them enough?…..american has serious bad culture?
my brother goes to NIU. he was walking right by the building when it happened. its so terrifying. please pray for everyone. i am still in shock. thank you everyone.
Because you have a fucking gun-store in every fucking CITY. Get over it America and grow up, solve things with discussion instead of murder..
I live close to the Uni, you never think it will happen in your town. This shooter apparantly got two of the guns just six days ago… Legally. Until we get strict on our gun laws (which will never happen unfortunately) this sort of thing is going to keep happening. This was among several school shootings just this week.
I go the NIU. What happened yesterday was unbelievable and most definitely a tragedy. There was so much confusion and fear. But I do have to say that the school did an amazing job getting the word out to all of us. It was horrifying to turn on the TV and see that there was a shooting in a classroom I go to every day of the week. You never think these things are going to hit so close to home and you're never ready for it when they do. Thank you for all the support, it really does help.
I live 30 minutes from NIU, Many of my friends go there and one of my friends was in a class next door. I was so worried when she didn't text me back right away that she was ok but I guess the cell phone networks were really busy. The saddest part is that the shooter would never have done this if he wouldn't have gone off his medication. Mental illness is no laughing matter.
"Why does it seem that kind of stuff happens so much in America but not other parts of the world????"
Perez, this does happen in other parts of the world. Look at other countries and what is going on in the world. You have a freedom of speech, the right to a trial by jury, bear arms, search and seizure, etc. You have it much better here!! It is very sad that this guy couldn't control his medication and was such a coward and had to murder innocent people before taking his own life.
perez -
i live right next to niu and yesterday was a terrible terrible day, i have a friend who got shot and its too much to take. everything seems unreal, im glad you acknowledged this! it needs to be known. whats wrong with people? RIP. my heart goes out to families and friends.
Civil unrest doesn't happen in other countries? WOW. Stick to what you know and don't make political comments.
If students were allowed to carry concealed weapons on campus, how many people could have been kept from being shot? A lot! Look up the statistics about conceal carry. 2 million gun crimes a year are prevented by people who carry concealed firearms. THAT IS FACT! The problem IS gun control. Britain has banned firearms, and the BBC just printed statistics that show that gun crime has risen 30% since the ban. Why? Because criminals there know people don't have a firearm to fight back with.
I hate to say it but I have to agree with Jodene…there is so much accessibility to guns in the States. And it seems as though it's even encouraged in the name of self preservation for every American to own a gun! It is so sad when these trajedies occur, my sympathies to all those affected.
Re: Val –
Unfortunately these people tend to hide their problems from friends (if they have any) and loved ones until it is too late. How many times have you heard family members say, after the fact, that they didn't see any signs or that they didn't realize things were this bad. Do you also think that the families of the shooters at Columbine couldn't afford health care? I highly doubt that.
I agree that everybody should be able to get the health care that they need, but i think it is too simplistic to say that medicating people will solve these problems. What if they are hiding their problems or they don't take their meds? I don't think that gun control will stop everything - despite all our efforts in Canada these things still happen and people still get guns (albeit mostly illegal ones that come from the USA), however as a private citizen in Canada with no criminal connections I would have no idea how to get a gun.
Nothing is 100% fool proof but I really think that if you make it harder for people to get guns then these tragedies will happen less.
Re: AMA – A SCHOOL SHOOTING HAPPEN IN MONTREAL JUST A YEAR AGO….
Don't get me wrong, this is a horrendous tragedy and my heart goes out to all the students at NIU and to the victims, their friends and family. What makes me angry about this comment Perez, is that violence is going on AROUND THE WORLD. Look at the Middle East, look at the senseless suicide bombings all over the world. It's not just a sad country we live in, it's a sad state of the entire world. My prayers are for you NIU.
it's not sad. it's PATHETIC. if u tried to have gun control in your messed up country, there would be MILLIONS of ignorant gun owners disputing it despite the tragedies! the problem is that americans are very passive and controlled, living in the illusion that they are free. american people need to WAKE UP and shake up the systems holding you down. DON'T WAIT for an election- put the cheeseburgers down, get off your fat asses and PROTEST!!!!! (good luck with that)
I Live Like An Hour Away From There. It's So Sad That This Happend : (
The first thing Hitler did was take away everyone's guns. Besides, maybe the only reason the Chinese haven't invaded our asses (no pun intended) is because our citizens have guns. Holla!!
Re: Caroline – i don't think it matters what type of Laws there are, people will still have access to guns. i live in Bermuda where guns are absolutly illegal but there are shotings at least 4 times a year. We had 2 people shot and killed on Christmas/boxing day. It's sad, but i don't think there is much that can be done to stop this. My heart goes out to all those effected by this tragedy.
WOW, its not the guns folks, DUH!~ any one watch bowling for columbine? other countries have access to guns like us, such as Canada, whats the diff? they have a single payer health care system, we need a single payer plan, taking away the overhead on healthcare would leave 40% of the existing funds to pay for all those uninsured. Single payer people, don't fall for the Universal plans these dems are toting it is just a cover for the insurance companies to have a blank check.
We need free mental health care, for everyone, it would cheaper than what we have now, it would be cheaper than jail, the war on drunks and trying to fix the homeless problem………. DEMAND IT!~ check out Ralph Naders website…..
what a ridiculous comment to make about bad things happening here and not in other parts of the world. that's why a horrible tragedy such as this makes the news-because it doesn't happen all the time. can we please give the NIU community the respect and prayers they so need and deserve at this time, and just keep the politics out of it? i'm sure that is the last thing on the minds of the families and friends of victims at this time, and the last thing they need to be in the middle of right now.
Most probably because you guys have easy gun access and its pretty difficult for any young person to be allowed access to firearms over here in the UK! Plus your nation is so pilled up on prozac and other things! You yanks are all about emotions, learn to contain yourselves!
i love you perez!
p.s America is one of the most powerful countries in the world, like the media is owned by big corporate elites who can have their tv shows/news accessed in other countries…So when these things happen in other countries it is not as wide-spread in the news…does that make sense?! Big love Perez.
What do you mean? Montreal alone has had 4 school shootings in the past 20 years and guns are not easily accessible
get your facts straight perez
As a NIU student and loyal Perez reader, I'd like to thank Perez and everyone for the support and prayers sent. Things are crazy as of now, but I just hope that people can stop arguing and and think about those who were injured and lost their lives. This is something that 25,000+ people will live with for the rest of their lives, much like those at other schools that have been victims, all over the world.
the whole idea that this only happens in america and nowhere else is just such a ridiculous and inappropriate comment to make, particularly at this time. the reason this horrific tragedy made the news is because it is so unusual and terrible. so can we please keep the politics out of this and give the NIU community the respect, support, and prayers they so deserve and need at this time? i'm sure that is the last thing on the minds of the family and friends of the victims at this time, and that is the very last thing they should be in the middle of right now.
Great job Perez! You put some actual news on your site! Good for you!
My heart and prayers go out to the families!
im from IL and know people who go to niu and its so scary to think this stuff could happen so close.. you are never safe in school! its horrible, RIP
To #545: "Yank the rights away" ? No go ahead and kill yourself, make sure you kill innnocent also, retard!
This stuff DOES happen all over the world.. look at the middle east. suicide bombers, random shootings… Look at Africa, isn't there a war there as well? I'm not sure why there seems to be a "shoot up the school" trend in America but something needs to be done. We may be fighting a war on foreign soil but we need to also focus on what is happening on U.S. grounds.
just in responce to the person named "idiots" who responded to my previous comment on how american needs to protect its people for the threats within its own country (i.e gun men) rather than constantly being focused on pointing the finger abroad.
How is a suicide bomber any worse than a gun man who open fires on people, then kills himself? In my opinion he is no better than a suicide bomber. Sometimes you should take note one whats happening in your own back yard instead of being focused on what your neighbours are up to.
WHY? The right of everyone to carry a gun might be a reason!
Gun control (which I support) is only part of this issue. The real issue is that there is too little that can be done about an adult who is DANGEROUSLY MENTALLY ILL. Whoever this shooter is - I am sure its the same basic story as all the other times tragedies like this has happened . This guy is obviously not well & the steps that should have been taken to prevent him from hurting others simply didn't/couldn't happen in time. Look at how much trouble Britney's family has had to go to in order to prevent her from harming herself - and they have lots of $$, connections and can afford to devote themselves full-time to trying to help her. Not everyone's family can or will do that.
I think the real issue is that there needs to be some major reform of how mentally ill adults are helped in the US. Its WAY too hard to help them & as a result we just absorb the shock of tragedy after tragedy.
Re: USA – We are not saying our countries are better than yours… Our western countries have problems aswell but we do seem to have a bit more of a grasp on arms controll. Yes shoutings happen in other western countries but no where near as many as the USA.
Fuck your fat ignorant ass, Perez, for feeding bullshit into the machine that is the American media. You're a disgusting person, and the fact that you're making money through the millions of visitors who will click on those pictures and read that story is even more loathesome. Is this not a celebrity gossip site? Since when did people losing their lives become gossip? It's no more than a juicy headline that'll help you get a little more money while desperate people surf your page, clinging to the lives of other more "important" people. To the people who frequent this sad, sad website, please pick up a book, pick up a credible newspaper and actually learn something.
It is so sad… but it does happen in other places in the world (Montreal and Helsinki come to mind) … it just happens more in the US, effing gun lovers.
Get rid of your guns!!
Re: Realistic Bermudian –
Wow I wish the USA had only four shootings a year!
Yes, lets make it to where only the Criminals have guns….get a clue…Idiots.
Actually, this kind of stuff does happen all over the world. Maybe not with just guns, but it still happens.
im a student at NIU…so sad, please pray for us
Perez, you are the biggest idiot!!! Worse shit than this happens all over the world. Look at Darfur, Israel, Pakistan, Somolia, Tibet etc..etc.. This kind of violence makes no sense either. People kill, rape, mutilate and torture old people, women, and children in every country. Being mad is okay but don't act like this kind of 'senseless violence' only goes on in the U.S.