Speaking Homo
Filed under: Gay Gay Gay > Tyra Banks > Mike HuckabeeOur favorite* Republican presidential hopeful, Mike Huckabee, was on Tyra's talk show talking about the gays and same sex marriage.
He's so damn funny! We just wanna get Ellen's dildo and smack him upside the head!
Click here to listen to his gibberish.
*The stupidest.
Posted: February 29, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Re: Chad –
GREAT COMMENT CHAD
It is amazing how they are building a duped following that act like this behavior can not be judged. It can and it is and it will.
He and his followers are the bad people of early 21st Century America — pure and simple judgement.
Straight Supremists are as bad as White Supremists
Re: King Kon –
lets see — he made it clear he is a straight supremist
he wants to keep special rights for straight people
I would say that is pretty twisted shit in 2008 unless you agree with him - then your a bigot too
Huckabee is a f&*khead.
Re: rjp3 –
A straight supremacist? How exactly is he reserving "special rights" for straight people over homosexuals? The man clearly explained that he wants to maintain an institution as it has been maintained for centuries. The whole reason why the church sanctifies religion and the government encourages it is because children are the end product. Welcome to 2008. What a homosexual does with his or her partner is not marriage in the religious or political sense and so you can't call it that. Enlighten me as to why homosexuals want to be considered married anyway.
Re: Partick –
i guess that mans i'm a fcuktard, but hey
at least im not the one that is gonna vote for "i now pronounce you husband and husband" and killing innocent life.
Re: rjp3 – I respectfully disagree that it's a logic trap in the sense that there's a distinction between innate orientation and chosen action. White Supremacists hate blacks when blackness is an innate quality with no corresponding behavior that accompanies it (if that makes any sense). People like Huckabee do not claim to hate the innate homosexuality of any given individual; what they claim to disagree with is homosexual behavior. I think that's an important distinction.
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Now, you disagree with Huckabee's religious/moral views. I certainly don't think it makes you a bigot or a supremacist of any sort just because you believe that your views are truer and more valid than his. When you strongly disagree with someone's behavior (like Huckabee's, for example), you're automatically dismissing their views/actions as being less valid and morally sound than your own, which is fine, but in a sense, you're doing what you claim you hate in Huckabee. Not hating Huckabee but disapproving of his views and actions is essentially the same as not hating homosexuals (like Huckabee claims) but disapproving of their actions.
FUCK YOU PEREZ I WANT TO TAKE YOUR DILDO AND STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DOES NOT (YOU) YOUR SO FUCKING SCARE OF EVERYONE BEING HOMOPHOBIC……..THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT INTERVIEW..PLEASE DO NOT GO OUT AND MULTIPLY ONE OF YOU IS ENOUGH…YOU FUCKING HOMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU MAKE THE WHOLE GAY THING NASTY
Re: Jennifer B. –
The logic trap is this: What you're saying is, yeah OK, maybe I concede that a homosexual is born that way. Maybe he didn't choose his orientation. But now that he's born and is gay, if he wants to be a moral/Christian being, he must not fall in love or have sex with anyone he's attracted to for his whole life. He's attracted to men. He can't stop that feeling, and he can't choose to be with a woman- well, he can, but it will cause a lot of misery for him, his woman and their children down the road. Is that what you'd prefer? For all gay men to "choose not to act" on their attractions to other men and make some women miserable? Yes, you can choose which men you sleep with- but can you make yourself stop sleeping/falling in love with men for your entire life? Think about it. It makes no sense. It's as if to say "OK, maybe you are born gay, but now live a freak's life without any love or a loving relationship." What kind of a life is that? Oh wait, it's called a priest.
PH could learn about tolerance for others from this guy.
where is my comment perez????????????????????????????????????????????????
Re: Apollo – THANK YOU APOLLO — TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT TO HER WOULD HAVE MADE MY HEAD HURT
Re: King Kon – They are in RELATIONSHIPS that are as valid and emotionally pure (LOVE) as straight people …. and the straight supremists wants to keep for themself over 1000 — did you read that 1000 special rights that only STRAIGHT MARRIED PEOPLE GET as couples.
Sorry the time for those SPECIAL RIGHTS limited to STRAIGHT SUPREMISTS will end in our lifetime …. choose your side. Many chose the wrong side during the civil war. It is very easy and a very COMMON thing to do.
Straight Supremist want Special Rights reserved for them
Marriage provides over 1,000 benefits enshrined in national laws, covering things like hospital visitation rights, inheritance, tax structures, custody arrangements, etc. All families, both gay and straight, deserve to be recognized by the government–it would be worse for everyone to pretend families just don't exist. Most people continue to want an official stamp put on their relationships, and all the automatic rights that go along with
Re: shopgirl –
He is a straight supremist who wants to keep gay people second class citizens — there is something very wrong with him and with you if you do not see that
he can do whatever he wants in his own twisted church - but run for president and try to impose that on others — sorry good people have to speak up against that type of straight supremist behavior
Re: Lynn – GOD'S A FUCKING FAKE PIECE OF FICTIONAL BULLSHIT AND ASSHOLES LIKE YOU KEEP FOLLOWING THE IGNORANCE. YOU MORONS JUST KEEP REPEATING THE SAME LINE YOU WERE BRAINWASHED WITH AS A CHILD. YOU'LL NEVER HAVE THE BRAINS OR WILL TO BREAK AWAY FROM THAT SUPERSTITIOUS HORSESHIT THAT MAKES YOU ANOTHER IGNORANT, INTOLERANT BIGOT. SO MUCH FOR THE CHRISTIAN "LOVE" JESUS PREACHED. HE WAS JUST ANOTHER PUBLIC HACK THAT'S LED MILLIONS OF FOLLOWERS TO HATRED, DEATH, PREJUDICE AND INHUMANITY.
Re: Jennifer B. –
If you want to see how illogical your conclusions are, then try this. Stop dating men (you are a straight woman, right?) and start dating/falling in love with/having sex with WOMEN. Now, never be with a man again. It's OK if you have the FEELINGS of wanting to be with a man, but don't act on them. Make the RIGHT CHOICE (the majority choice) and be with women for the rest of your life. Can you do that? And try not to be miserable, OK? You'll bring us all down with your depression. Just go along happily and stop trying to be who you really are b/c we all don't want to see that. Love women and have sex with them b/c we want you to, and so does God. He wants you to be untrue to your feelings. That's just the kind of dude (dame?) he is! Makes sense to me!!!!
Re: SeanO – You're an ASSHOLE & that's a bigger sin! Who the fuck gave you the knowledge of what constitutes a "sin"? I guess you've been told stories out of that biggest piece of fictional trashy novel, the bible. Just another load of shit for the masses of idiots who can't think for themselves. Congrats for being part of a group!
the bottom line is who he represented himself as on this show is NOT who he is. pay any attention and you will agree. he censored himself to try and acquire votes of those watching tyra. he knows he has to sound more diplomatic. don't be stupid when a candidate is on a talk show they are being a politician and gearing their words to specific audience. he is hoping tyra's audience is stupid enough to believe he is more moderate then he is. his beliefs are all based on a narrow religious view. our country is founded on our differences, including our different ethnicities, sexualities and religious beliefs. no policy should ever have anything to do with religion because we don't all believe the same thing. take a history class sometime before supporting someone who wants to even consider changing what our country is founded on, the separation of church and state
"I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that's what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than trying to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."
– Mike Huckabee
if you don't think this is scary then you need to get yourself an education or join a hate group
Damn, now i have to like tyra. and yes the gays do love you trya
Re: Apollo – I definitely see what you're saying, but you have to understand that I haven't given my opinion on this issue. I was arguing that disagreeing with someone's views and/or behavior doesn't mean that you hate him or her.
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I don't think a gay man, for example, should date a straight woman. From personal experience, I know how difficult and hurtful that can be for both parties. Not to get too personal here, but my first love came out as a gay man after we dated throughout my teen years, and the whole thing was intensely painful for the both of us. Anyhow, my personal views on this issue are irrelevant. If gay people choose to be in homosexual relationships, that's totally their choice. What I was arguing, however, was that Christians who disagree with homosexual behavior from a moral standpoint aren't always doing so because they hate gay people. I do think it's possible to like and respect someone even when you don't like what they say or do. I've got many friends who disagree with me and the things I do, and vice versa.
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Wow, this is really long. Sorry about that. Anyhow, thank you for your civil response. Your response (and RP3's, too) was generally kind and respectful, which is exactly what I was arguing for. You didn't agree with what I wrote, necessarily, but you were kind. That's how it should be, I think.
Re: Justin –
Agreed.
Although I support Obama.
So what did Huckabee say that was so insulting? He didnt say that gays are going to hell or are sinners…he just said that marriage is defined to be between a man and a woman. He seems pretty level-headed to me…however I wouldnt want him to be our president
Re: rjp3 –
Seriously, could you please stop using the phrase straight supremacist? You're assigning a term to people, including myself, that don't think of themselves as such. All you're succeeding in doing is forming a false dichotomy between straight and homosexual people, further alienating homosexuals. Why don't you instead focus on the issue at hand. You haven't addressed my point about being able to bear children. Who is talking about love? Do you think the government awards love with tax breaks? They couldn't care less. Getting married (in the traditional sense) ensures the species survival and maintains the integrity of the American way of life. Until you can convince the government otherwise, you're not getting any "special" rights.
Re: Jennifer B. –
I completely agree that people have a right to their opinions, what they like and don't like, etc. But the problem here is that the laws are on the side of those who disagree that homosexuals are innately entitled to the same rights as heteros. Heteros can choose to get married/or not. To visit their partner in the hospital/or not. To adopt children/or not. Etc- there are many other examples, as another astute commenter wrote. This isn't fair, in my opinion. I am a straight woman, as are you, but I think it's wrong to tell other people who love each other they can't get married if they want to. Hey, if they want to be as miserable as all my straight friends who are married, who am I to stop them? Just kidding here.
Re: Jennifer B. –
Thank you also for your respectful and thoughtful response. I just think it's dangerous to tell someone "Hey, I like you, I just don't like that part of you who wants to be in love with someone you're attracted to" It's just such a deep part of what a person is- love, relationships, sex- when you tell a person you don't like that part of them, I imagine it's felt by the gay person as a total rejection. I think it would feel very hateful to me, to know that a person "accepts me" the way I was born, but doesn't think it's right that I act on my feelings of love for another person. Crazy example, but if you say a cat, "Well, I accept that you were born a cat. But I don't accept that you sleep 20 hours a day." Well, I am a cat. What do you want me to do? That's what I do- sleep. A lot. Take me as I am, and accept me. Or, don't take me at all, and don't pretend to like me if you can't accept my innate behavior.
Bri…your an idiot…seriously..our world is going to hell in a hand basket..and its because of people UNLIKE Mr.Huckabee….its because we dont have morals or values that ppl end up like "Britney Spears" and many others….MR.Huckabees morals are amazing. and if more ppl today had them I think we would all be better off. I agree with him on what he says about gays and about gay marriage.
WHEN YOU LOSE VALUES AND MORALS YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!
thank you!
ALOT OF PPL WHO COMMENTED TO THIS VIDEO….HAVE PROVEN JUST THAT
(you too Perez)
'Speaking homo'? That's the dignity you choose to give this commentary that is obviously so important to you? If anyone said anything disrespectful to homosexuals it was YOU Perez. How will this country ever have a thoughtful and meaningful discussion about gay marriage if you write childish things like smacking Mike Huckabee on the head with a dildo. Grow up. It's foolish comments like yours that will only make supporting gay marriage all the more difficult to achieve. And honestly you're a celebrity trash 'reporter' not a political commentator. Stick to what you know. We like you best that way.
Re: FUCK RELIGION – People like you prove God to be real. Face it. You hate the fact that no matter what you do here on earth, there's a consequence. YOUR AFRAID OF AUTHORITY. But of course you'd like to fallback on your belief that God's a fairytale so you can feel like life's just a free ride and were here to have "fun" or whatever it is you like to do thats leading you to hell. You need to pray, unless your to scared you might get an answer.
Re: Vic – "FUCK YOU NARROW MINDED BITCH"? Wow…what morals you show you have for an atheist.
Thats my boi!
Re: Apollo – I'm not so sure how hurtful that would be, honestly, but I can only speak for myself. I've done things considered sinful (e.g., premarital sex), and one could argue that I was just acting on my innate heterosexual desires. If a devout Christian said that they didn't agree with my having premarital sex (which is generally considered to be just as wrong as homosexual activity in the Christian tradition), but that they liked and respected me as a person regardless of my actions, I don't think I'd care all too much about their disapproval on a personal level. Any honest Christian would admit that everyone (fellow Christians, atheists, gays, etc.) sins, so it's a necessity to separate the sin from the sinner to avoid hating one's self and others, which is also against the Christian tradition. From what I understand, the ideal is not to have a them vs. us mentality regarding homosexuals. There is no them. It's all us, since we're all sinners, so I do think that most Christians are being sincere when they say that they love the sinner but hate the sin. Anyhow, that's just my understanding of the whole thing.
So does he think it's immoral? Why can't a politician answer a fuckin question directly, instead of dancing around it?
what a douche… hes said some pretty stupid things about homosexuals and NOW hes trying to seem understanding?! LMAO… that man will NEVER be president… number one, he says hes not against gays, yet he doesnt want to change an institution (like marriage or government) … YET HES SAID HE WANTS TO CHANGE OUR CONSTITUTION FOR IT TO GO BY THE BIBLE?!? THATS FUCKING RETARDED…. and he TRIES to use his children in an example which should NOT have been done, because all of us Perezzers know that his child is a FUCKED UP GUN TOTING DOG KILLER.. the day that horrible man is president is the day i leave this country…
Re: dana –
uh — yeah that is why people are posting that they dont like him — he is a right wing conservative religious bigot
Re: blair –
blair — he said they could not create an environment to raise children, he said it was unnatural (they used to say that about blacks reading and women voting and based it on religious quotes).
The hate in the bible was inserted there by MANKIND not guide.
God's wisdom is in there but that book has long been polluted by man - and this idiot is too stupid to know that.
Re: Jay – sorry EVOLUTION is a scientific theory - creationism is RELIGIOUS BELIEF — we do not teach children RELIGIOUS BELIEFS in public schools - to even suggest that means you do not know the difference between science and religion and are a bit of a fool
I was never taught EVOLUTION was fact - it has and alway will be taught as The THEORY of EVOLUTION …. so the ENTIRE battle is just bullshit.
PERIOD.
As a Catholic we are instructed by the popes since the 1950's to respect science and that there is no reason for human's to doubt what science is showing us MAY have happened. If it happened this way - it was GOD's way.
There is no contradiction //// only a fool believes the world was created in 7 day and is only a few thousand years old. Huckabee is a fool as he believes BOTH.
Re: James – he said it was a sin — uh yeah he thinks it is immoral
of course he does not have the DECENCY to say in my religion and for people who follow my branch of Chrisitianity is it a sin…. no he has to pretend HE has THE answer.
That is someone NOT TO TRUST.
[re=1642858]Re: SO SAD The only "SAD" thing is idiots like you how believe all of that bullshit someone else said was "real". I sure as "hell" (HA HA HA! another phony load made up to scare fools like you) AM the proof that god is just ANOTHER story to control the masses! Man invented god in hundreds of different forms since the dawn of civilization to explain the mysteries of the world, control the people and give HIMSELF the validity he sought to rule the earth. This tiny insignificant little rock in the middle of the entire universe and we are the be all and end all for "god". Again, HA HA HA! What arrogant, small minded idiot humans like you would pull down real human intellect into these age old fairy tales for your own ignorant purposes. Go ahead, live YOUR life by a bunch of old fiction and let those of us will our own self-will. Well, to quote one of my favorite iconoclasts that regularly posts here, FUCK GOD FUCK JESUS FUCK ALLAH FUCK RAMA FUCK THE BIBLE & FUCK YOU!
Re: SO SAD – He did not say FUCK GOD, or FUCK SPIRITUALITY …. he said fuck RELIGION.
Proven fact - most wars and death on this planet have been and are caused by the FUNDAMENTALIST followers of ORGANIZED RELIGION.
You realize we have a FUNDAMENTALIST President who destroyed the once respected Justice Department by filling it with FUNDAMENTALIST underqualified lawyers. Our enemy in our wars are FUNDAMENTALIST.
The people doing the killing in the CONGO are FUNDAMENTALISTS.
Organized Religion proves that it is one of the most EVIL things in the world - just open your eyes. Be not a follower and question authority.
I don't think the gays love Tyra as much as she thinks. She's kind of a joke.
hes a good man with good values… everyone can disagree. but i do believe in same sex marriage (even tho im not gay) becuz everyone should b able ot have that connection with somebody… i might even vote for him though…because i dont agree with any others except mccain
okay wjat is wrong with what he said? you guys are overreacting. he is entitled to his opinion and you should respect that.
HEY APOLLO! WELL SAID!!!!! MUAH!!!!! I STILL THINK DON'T THINK JENNIFER B UNDERSTANDS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY THOUGH. I think she's trying to make the debate quiet and peaceful, which is a good intention, but she doesn't comprehend that the situation at matter is in serious need of attention, direct force, and understanding. Hate is wrong but when love can't fight love.
Re: Cashmere Mafia – errr. I meant : Hate is wrong but love can't fight love.
Actually he sounds very reasonable to me, but them I am an open minded person. Perez=Intolerent bigot
Re: Jennifer B. –
But Jennifer, you still haven't told me the answer to my question? Would you be able to change your orientation and date/love/have sex with only women, even though you're hetero? I know I couldn't!
10% of the population is gay. That sounds like it's a pretty good chunk of people. It's not some tiny minority, so although it's not "the norm" it's far from "abnormal." All species have gay members, not just people.
I don't think you can compare premarital sex (which is easy to hide) to being gay and "acting on it." Now, I don't think either things are sins, but that's just the kind of heathen I am! In premarital sex, you have a temporary "sin" where with gay sex, everything you do (in the eyes of the church) is wrong wrong wrong. You can't even live your life- there's not comparison there. YOU can go on and get married and have a life. And the gays? Well, they just have to be loveless and become monks I guess?
Re: Cashmere Mafia –
Thanks! I'm trying to be logical here, in an illogical world, I think. At least Jennifer can have a discussion without cursing and being insulting, which is a rarity these days. I understand that when people are raised in religion, it can be hard to see the other point of view, and vice versa. I just have a need for things to be fair, and to make sense. This issue does neither to me. My own Dad feels the way Jennifer does, so I understand where she's coming from. It just doesn't make sense to me when you start breaking down the logic of the view.
i think he right when he talks about the gay lifestyle!
idiot… he won't get my vote.
love is love… grrrr people who feel the same way as him make me so angry!
I have a newfound respect for this man. He did great answering tough questions.
It's totally fine if you don't agree with him becuase each is entitled to their own opinions. However, calling him "stupid" just because you disagree, makes YOU out to be the IGNORANT FOOL talking gibberish. Actually, he was quite clear in how he felt.
Read the Bible…he speaks the truth
Re: Apollo – No, I highly doubt I'd ever be able to change my sexual orientation, but then again, I think that most gay people are unable to change theirs as well. I've never been one of those people who think gays can go to a shrink and turn everything around. Maybe that's the case for some people (I don't know), but it doesn't seem to be the norm.
My main point with that, though, was that people can and do disagree with things I've done in my life, all the while maintaining respect for me. I've got friends who are the polar opposite of me politically, religiously, and philosophically (all of which are fairly important to me), so I truly think it's possible to disagree with a homosexual relationship without rejecting or hating the homosexuals involved.
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If premarital sex is easy to hide, why isn't homosexual activity also easy to hide? I'm not sure I understand your point with that, but then again, I'm sort of exhausted, so it probably went over my head.
Re: Apollo – Part 2: I've purposely avoided revealing my views on gay marriage because it's such a hot-button issue and is too complex to discuss on a website like this (since the discussion could go on for weeks). The same would be true on other controversial topics, like abortion, the death penalty, etc. I am a Catholic believer, but the thing is, I'm definitely not the best Catholic by any stretch of the imagination, so I don't exactly feel qualified to represent Christianity. But all the same, it is my understanding that Christians believe that all people are called to deny some of their personal desires for a greater good, namely their eternal salvation. It seems Christianity would teach that homosexuals have an enormous cross to bear, and that living without a companion would be extremely difficult/unpleasant, but that it would benefit them in the long-run. The same would be true for straight people who are unmarried or people who are divorced. Christianity teaches that there are different types of love, and that unmarried people needn't be loveless. Of course, gay people can and do disagree with Christianity, and that's their choice. It certainly doesn't seem easy to be gay and devoutly Christian, but then again, it's really hard to be a devout Christian nowadays anyway. Being a horrible Christian, I know how it is, so I'd imagine it must be a lot harder for gays.
Re: Apollo – Part 3: Why Christianity views homosexual activity, premarital sex, and the like as sinful is a whole other discussion, though. We could go on for ages if that came up. The gist of my original argument: it's possible to love the sinner but hate the sin.
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Wow, sorry this is so long. It's kind of cool/funny to be having a discussion like this on Perez Hilton's blog, which is the last place I'd expect. LOL!
this guy is a complete idiot and anyone who would vote for him his a big red neck fool!
i must give it to him.. i've said this throughout the entire campaign he expresses himself very well. first, like other people have said, he doesn't speak from a position of hate.. so i have no problem with his expression even though i completely disagree with him. still, he seems to be of sober thought. fact is, we should have discussion with people like mike huckabee because we can have an adult conversation and come to an adult conclusion as we've had in many other countries like canada etc (where gay marriage is legal). we don't need just rhetoric, we need logical debates, and if that occurred in the US, gay marriage would be legal. another thing i would caution for those who say gays are now being intolerant, don't stereotype. you'll have some gays who are intolerant, uneducate, bigots, educated, self hating, open, logical etc etc.. being gay doesn't make us all of one thought, just like straight people. imagine that!
I hate him and everyone who supports him. I take joy in knowing that all the money his nasty supporters have given him is going down the drain because there is no way in hell he will win this election. I hope his wife dies. Stupid asshole.
I don't like him but he actually makes sense………
I thought he did a fine job. He spoke of what he thought and believed, and we need to be tolerant of his views. Worst thing about liberals is that they say they are tolerant, but they are only tolerant of those who believe as they do!
He is a closed-minded idiot! You is trying to get votes so he is not out right saying what he TRULY feels about the homosexual community. FUCKING BIGOT!
Re: rjp3 – so is obama…obama and hillary are more like hitler than hitler himself
Perezito… estoy de acuerdo contigo. No escuches a estos pendejos.
Tambien, te sone contigo. Lindsay Lohan rompio mi telefono y me consolo.
Re: Jennifer B. – Everything you say…is exactly how I would have responded to everything…you just said it better. I am glad there are still people left who have their head on straight. But seriously, liberals think that all republicans and christians are bigots, yet as you can see by all of these replys…the conservatives or republicans are the ones responding in well mannered intellectual comments, but the the liberals are the ones being so hateful and ridiculously harsh to someone who has different views from them.
I see nothing wrong with what this man said. It's his personal opinion and he has the freedom to express it. It's not like he sat there and said, all gays are going to hell and should repent and change their ways. He simply said that while he doesn't agree with the lifestyle or with redefining the institution of marriage. I myself, don't think that marriage should be redefined but if gays want to be recognized as a couple then a civil union might be the answer. I think that gays deserve the same rights as straight couples in terms of benefits, insurance coverage etc. And his statement about teaching Evolution as a theory and not a fact is bang on. The theory is full of wholes!
Re: Cori –
When scientists use the word "theory" it doesn't have the same meaning that we commonly think of. In everyday use, a theory is a hunch, or an idea that we try to prove. In science, a theory is a well-documented, well-supported, well-substantiated explanation for observations. It is almost completely the opposite of what you think it means. This is a common misconception by people who don't really understand scientific terms. It is a widely used argument employed by religious folks who wish to teach Creationism. Don't be fooled. Educate yourself and don't repeat things you hear without studying up a bit first. This is why other countries make fun of us- we are a highly uneducated and ignorant country. Sorry to say, but it's true.
he is well spoken
he has my both
GOD BLESS EVERYONE
He is right and i LOVE gays!!! i think he is just saying what would help make the world operate a lil smoother
Awww…Perez is never going to get his assed filled again. It's not like it hasn't already happened, you BIG FAT FAG!! Even fags hate fat fags. Only cornholing for Perez from now on. HAHAHAHAHA!
He is absolutely right! I pray to God he becomes president of the USA…the other idiots scare the he double toothpicks outta me.
Who says gays cannot have children 1. is he saying that a baron woman is against the normal parametres of marriage. 2. The definition of Marriage has changed from 50 years ago when women were forced into the kitchen why is gay mariage such a big issue. 3. I belive the meaning of life is love and i believe in god and i believe in evolution and i believe that god made me gay for a reason, not a test of my faith, but the next step of love and acceptance of all different peoples. America "Land of the Free" BullS**t Gay people are still traped and in some states would be killed maybe even by the police force for being gay. Time America Grew up and stopped using the Bible so heavily in their Government, it pisses the rest of the world off.
Actually he answered the question very eloquently while still upholding what we all KNOW are his beliefs in front of an audience BOUND to disagree with him. You know how he feels about gay marriage Perez, why not wait until someone says something inflammatory to post about it. Unless, you didn't KNOW he was against gay marriage. I think it's retarded that in order to smear him, you post an interview in which he came off as really likeable.
There was nothing offensive or "stupid" in what he said. I agreed with him 100% and would vote for him if I weren't voting for Barack. I have nothing against gay people, I love all people but marriage should be left between a man and a woman. You have the right to live your life anyway you choose, but the idea of redefining marriage to suite the needs of the gay population is wrong for this country and future generations of children. Children need to have a mom and dad and it would be selfish to deprive them of that.
an educated man who is well spoken. from what i heard here, he has nothing against gay people.
#476 - Davis says – "woman who can't bare chidern against marriage?" that's stupid; "Definition of marriage has from 50 yrs ago." No it has not; "Women forced into the kitchen"? That's stupid & untrue; "Why is gay marriage a big issue?" Because its GROSS; "I believe god made me gay?" No the devil did; "acceptance of all different peoples. America Land of the Free." Yes be free but not married; "Time America Grew up." Yes move to Canada, Belgium.
GO HUCK!!!!! He's got my vote!
I think by some of the language and grammar on these comments, we are dealing with people not even old enough to vote. Angrily attacking people for their views do not make you seem smart or make people want to listen with an open mind. If you don't like Huckabee, vote for someone else, simple as that. The sad thing is, alot of the people have no clue about the issues. They rely on whomever the media or a celebrity is endorsing. Be responsible and learn about where the candidates stand on the most pressing issues today. Check out their voting records and try to listen to their message. After that, cast a ballot and stop whining and fighting like school-age children fighting over candy. Social issues like gay marriage aren't going to dictate who becomes President this time around anyway, so the whole argument is kind of irrelevant.
Dear JENNIFER B, I have read your entire comments. Love the sinner, hate the sin. That is a nice message;however, in today's society, it is hardly practiced. Do you believe homosexuality is a sin? If not, and if you do respect homosexuals and do not think of them as sinners for them being so, can it be possible that you fight for them as well so that they may have peace in living their lives? Of course, not all Republicans or those who choose conservatism are anti-gay but telling homosexuals that it's okay but denying them (by voting and etc) their rights to live as equal citizens is like granting someone independence but giving them boundaries and restrictions. Nevertheless, I agree with Apollo. It is rare to have a pleasant debate and conversation with someone who doesn't rely on curse words and degrading insults to make their point. I wish I could have the same in another topic I am conversing in.
being a gay man i would much rather have him am my president than macain.Our view may conflict but at least he's open to so reason.
i fucking agree w/ everything he fucking said! 100% completely!
Re: lisa –
Lisa is a STRAIGHT SUPREMIST too —- great good for you.
Amazing how the internet allows bigots to expose themself.
www.truthsetsfree.net
Re: Nik –
Nik your are thinking like a tool - the man said he wants to "take back the country for christ" - he wants to turn the country into a THEOCRACY with laws based on (his version and interpretation) of the bible …. sorry even war monger McCain is better than this evil man. AND if your really gay - you would have to be ok with yet another STRAIGHT SUPREMIST being president.
Re: Cashmere Mafia –
oh FUCK YOU —- curse words rock !!! (that is a joke —)
Re: gary –
Gary — WHICH of the millions of different lifestyles led by gay and bi people are you and Huckabee talking about ? If it is only one = why stereotype millions of other very different people. Gay people are as diverse as straight people —- fact.
Re: Wildcat –
His views not matter how "nicely" said ARE inflammatory in 2008.
Being a straight supremist is just not cool or fair or "nice".
There are many white supremists who could go on Tyra and said blacks are animals and should be second class citizens — but we all should speak out against them when they said that stuff.
Perez did the right thing by pointing out an example of bigotry.
Re: Cashmere Mafia – Thank you for your kind words. Yeah, it is nice and refreshing to have peaceful, respectful debates like this with people like you and Apollo.
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As a Catholic believer, I do not think that having a homosexual orientation is sinful, though I do think that homosexual activity, among other things, is sinful. The thing is, I think that many of the things I choose to do are sinful as well, so I certainly don't think I'm any less of a sinner than the next person. I really don't have any reason to lie when I say that I have people in my life who I disagree with on many points (and vice versa), so from personal experience, I know it's possible to love the sinner but hate the sin.
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Unfortunately, people don't always love the sinner as well as they should. I guess that's to be expected, though, since we all regularly fall short of the ideal. Nevertheless, I try to wish everyone well in life (what is meant by that can be disagreed upon, I think), and as tempted as I am to give my opinion on the gay marriage issue, I don't think this website is the place to do so, unfortunately.
Re: jenna – Thank you. I mean, I've seen emotional personal attacks from both sides, just as I've seen nice, respectful replies from both sides as well.
Perez, why would you write "the stupidest"? He was honest about his views. Just because they do not agree with your views does not make him stupid. You would be ROYALLY PISSED if he said you were stupid because of your pro-gay-marriage views. I'm not saying that I agree with him, but he was honest and articulate. Why bash him?
Well he may want the gay vote, but you can't always get what you want…especially if you go on Tyra's show and say you're not going to help them in the one way they need to be helped.
Re: Jennifer B. –
You have kind of made my point for me. You say that you also are a sinner, because of "the many things I choose to do." Gay people who are born gay do not choose to do the things they do. They ARE the things they do. They are gay, and they love who they are attracted to- they do not choose that, any more than straight people choose their orientation. The sins which you speak of- premarital sex, stealing, whatever- those are real, true choices. You can do them, or not do them- it's up to you. But being (note the word BEING) gay is not a temporary choice that you can say- "oops, I fucked up-I sinned." So you say that his BEING gay isn't a sin, but his ACTING on it is. Well, if you steal or lie (sins) you can easily NOT do that anymore. But if you are gay and have sex- how do you not do that anymore? It's a permanent state of being
Re: Apollo – Since sexual orientation isn't a choice, simply being attracted to the same or opposite sex isn't considered sinful. Gays, being human, have free will to choose between certain actions. From a Christian perspective, they have two choices: they can choose to act on their attractions and have sex with members of the same sex, or they can choose to not act on their attractions. The latter wouldn't be considered sinful. As a straight woman, I too have two choices: I can act on my attractions and have sex, or I can choose to not act on my attractions. Again, the latter also wouldn't be considered sinful, but even for me, the former would be. Gays and straights both exercise caution and free will in their daily lives. Few people, gay or straight, sleep with everyone they find attractive, for example, and that's because we essentially choose who sleep with; we exercise our free will when it comes to behavior. You argue that since gays are who they are, they are their behavior. If heterosexuals are who they are, how come they aren't their behavior as well? Gays can't choose who they have sex with, but straight people can? I apologize, but I don't quite follow what you mean by that, as I'm not sure it seems consistent to me (I don't mean any offense by that).
Re: Apollo – Part 2: Since time and space limit what I post on this website, I haven't been able to go too in-depth with my responses, which is why I've withheld my opinion on a few things. Anyhow, if you'd like to have a more thorough discussion on this issue, we can chat via email if you'd like. My email address: JenBee82@yahoo.com.
Re: Jennifer B. –
Yes, you can CHOOSE who you sleep with, or not. But you can not CHOOSE who you are ATTRACTED to. How lucky for you, and for me, that we are attracted to the opposite sex. You are fortunate in that who you are both attracted to and may choose (in the eyes of religion) are consistent. And what to do if one is gay? Well, poor them! God says it's OK if you're gay, but not OK to act on it. Hmmmm… How unfortunate. What is one to do? So my original question to you stands. Would you be willing/able to go your whole life without love/sex so that you may be "saved" in the eyes of God? I think you know exactly what I'm asking, and I think we all know it's an unreasonable thing to expect of a person. It's a no-win for gays. I can see why they sometimes turn their backs on certain churches. They'd have to be celibate their whole lives in order to be without sin. Crazy stuff!
Re: Apollo – I would agree that it'd be extremely difficult to be chaste my whole life. I have difficulty with that now, and I'm straight, and there's also the possibility that I'll one day get married. I don't know what it'd be like if I were gay, though I suppose I'd struggle like I do now, and perhaps even more so. Christianity isn't an easy religion to follow regardless of one's sexual orientation, and I don't think it's meant to be. Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II, for example, chose to go their whole lives without sex or romantic relationships, so while living that sort of life isn't impossible, it's definitely, totally not easy. From what I've read, it's meant to be challenging and hardcore, but ultimately rewarding in the long-run. One goal is to overcome mundane human desires and to be given eternal salvation; Christianity teaches that that's everyone's destiny. Of course, like I've said, many people can and do reject Christianity, and that's their choice. I don't think anyone should be forced to believe that. Like anything else, it's a choice.
These types of issues are why I dislike organized religions- all of them. They are exclusive by nature. The rules are made up by people, and then they exclude groups of other people who don't believe in that group's rules. The bible, torah, koran, etc. were written by people. They are translated by people, often incorrectly. People fight over what they think is God's will. They kill each other! It's crazy! I am not an athiest, but organized religions just don't work for me. I believe that God accepts everyone AND everyone's actions, so long as they don't hurt another person. That's it. Simple. God just wants us to be nice to each other. If two men love each other, have sex, get married, and are not hurting each other, I think God approves.
Re: Apollo – Well, of course, you're entitled to your opinion, though I'd disagree with some of what you wrote. But I guess that's another discussion in and of itself. I will say this, though: even if organized religion did not exist, I think people would find other reasons to be horrible to one another, unfortunately. People tend to fight over what's most important to them. I believe people are inherently good, though. We all just make bad choices sometimes.
Re: meinsc –
Lets see if someone in current times said BLACK are AN LOWER SPECIES - an ANIMAL and not HUMAN — would it be wrong to call them stupid.
Of course not. But not toooo long ago that was the law in much of the nation — and the justification of segregation in the lifetime of most living Americans.
So what he said while popular bigotry held by the majority - STRAIGHT SUPREMISTS - it is stupid and brave people say so.
BRAVO PEREZ
Re: Jennifer B. –
Your calling people sinners while you pick and choose what parts of the bible to follow. If you enjoy Lobster or Shrimp Cocktail by the ignoring the biblical ban on eathing them (www.godhatesshrimp.com). And you best never have sex during your "time of the month". Banned too. (But feel free to own slaves — bible is cool with that!).
The biblical bans on homosexuality, masterbation and promotion of marriage were manipulations to build TRIBES in the desert and avoid pleasure for pleasure sake as it did not always lead to procreation — and they needed more people in the tribes to fight in wars.
So be a STRAIGHT SUPREMIST — it is legal. Just like it is legal to be a bible based WHITE SUPREMIST, but know you belief that homosexuality is a sin makes you no better than a bible base WHITE SUPREMIST. Even if you a liberal and say live and let live and think gays should be 'free" to be gay. (You so kind with your blessing.)
Your still a bigot with self-serving beliefs — and all your well worded polite mutual "intellectual masterbation" chats on here with Apollo do not change that.
Re: Jennifer B. –
Re: rjp3 – LOL! Intellectual masturbation? Wow, you don't hear that everyday! Anyhow, how are our discussions self-serving? How do you think my beliefs serve me, personally? In all due respect, can you list all the benefits I've received loving the sinner and hating the sin? You'll do what you want to do, but in all honesty, I think you should grant people who disagree with you the benefit of the doubt. Instead of thinking that all people are out to get you, why don't you think that a lot of people believe what they believe because they think it's the best for humanity? Believe it or not, even people who disagree with you may have good intentions. I don't know you, but I genuinely think you mean well with what you believe.
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There have been volumes written about the Bible and its interpretations, so if any of us think we can do our arguments on that justice in a few paragraphs here on this website, we'd be sadly mistaken. I posted my email address in a previous comment, so if you'd like to discuss this in-depth, feel free to email me.
Re: rjp3 – Part 2: You don't know me, and you know a very limited amount of what I do and don't believe. That said, what makes you think I "pick and choose" which parts of the Bible to believe and why I believe them?
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As for the whole straight supremacist thing, I responded to your comments on that yesterday, but you never responded back. Instead of calling people bigots and straight supremacists, you'd probably make more progress in a discussion by actually responding to the opposing arguments in a calm, thorough fashion (like Apollo does). In all honesty, have you ever changed anyone's mind by calling them a bigot? My opinion is that words like that are completely useless in two-sided discussions.