From wikipedia:
HOMOSEXUALITY IN ANCIENT ROME:
Although it again and again becomes apparent that bisexuality was more the norm, even the ancient authors agree that there were ancient Roman men who had sexual relations exclusively with men.
Obviously, this lady that calls herself a teacher has yet to really read a History book herself. She's going to serve in an office based upon Ancient Roman principles YET mock homosexuality and quote untrue "facts" about the link between homosexuality and the crumble of civilizations.
Also from Wikipedia:
ANCIENT ROME
Ancient Rome was a civilization that grew from a small agricultural community founded on the Italian Peninsula in the 9th century BC to a large empire straddling the Mediterranean Sea.[1] In its twelve centuries of existence, Roman civilization shifted from a monarchy, to a republic based on a combination of oligarchy and democracy, to an increasingly autocratic empire. It came to dominate Western Europe and the area surrounding the Mediterranean Sea through conquest and assimilation.
Yeah, TWELVE CENTURIES!
O God. How was that statement bad in any way? Uh, as far as im concerned it's true. Unless someone can provide me with two people of the same sex that can have babies. And schools ARE teaching young kids homosexuality is okay, which is nothing that the schools should be talking about in the first place! THERE ARE NO SCIENTIFIC FACTS THAT SHOW THAT HOMOS ARE BORN HOMOES! So Perez, Ellen, and all you other queers, quit taking it so hard up the ass when you hear that someone doesn't agree with you! Face it, queers are the minority and we should send all of you to an island so you can DIE OFF!
Re: Homophobe – As an openly gay man I can tell you that I have never made a decision to be gay. Did you decide to be straight? I have never been attached to women, I was loved by my parents and I was never molested. My suggestion to you is to spend some time with some gay men & women. We are just like you we come in all shapes and size with varies personalities, characteristics and mannerisms.
Re: RADICAL QUEEN – #190 THANK YOU! TOO BAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN MY TOWN. I'M LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS. I HAD TO FIRE A COUPLE OF THEM LATELY. WHAT HETEROS DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMPETITIVENESS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND DRAMA…AND WE HAVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS….HOMOPHOBE BASHERS ARE JUST THE WORST OF IT. IT IRRITATES ME HOW THEY COME ON THIS SITE AND TELL US TO LEAVE!! LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN PLACES…SPORTS BARS, BINGO HALLS, SOFTBALL LEAGUES, POKER GROUPS ,ECT WHERE THEY MAKE FUN OF US TO "BLOW OFF STEAM!" WELL…..THIS SITE WAS PRACTICALLY MADE FOR US… AND WE'RE NOT LEAVING.
I dont think he was saying that she or anyone would be shocked or surprised. Shit is shit. But, i am kind of surprised you took the time to write that little ditty seeing how you're straight. mmmmmmm..
Perhaps you have lived in these United States so long that you have forgotten what we're all about over here. You might learn again if you WENT Back to CUBA and spent a day in their Intolerant society..and then you can come back and again and start over and be pleasant and stop with the hateful language and appreciate all of us brothers and sisters. Man, what short memories and ungratefulness ! IF you were born here the paragraph goes to your parents and then they can't learn to teach their children properly where they're from and why they should be more tolerant!
Daycare teacher here… We are not teaching two-year olds that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle. We're teaching them to respect diversity and understand that not everyone is the same. It kinda goes along w/ empathy… Thank you Sally Burn. Have a nice day.
I felt electrocuted by Sally's words. I abhor it right at the bottom of my heart! It is really pitiful she said such things about homosexuals but what got me was Islam! One thing people misunderstood, terrorism is not Islam Jihad is a term of being at war to protect your home, your country. Jihad does not mean doing terrorism. Not even close! For Sally, that voice mail wont stop coming. Perez, thanks for posting this and Ellen, you're me fave!
Re: no wetback idols – please stop your hate. I am a caucasian gay male, and its people like you that cause this world to be destructed. Im sure u have been judged once in your life, and im sure u didnt appreciate it. So please stop. With every kind word comes a smile, and that makes this world a little less hateful every day. Thank you for your time.
Can we not forget to mention that she said that being gay is worse than being Muslim, what the eff? Since when was being Muslim the worst thing for a person to be! People are so racist/prejudice that they don't even care about comments like that, its become natural in this country.
Ellen should tell that bitch that she makes enough money to buy the state of Oklahoma!! In the words of the great Kathy Griffin, Don't Fuck With The Lesbians!!!
I LOVE ELLEN! So funny & honest & so proud of her for speaking her mind, standing up for all people and be so brave!
Sally Kern's comments should offend All of us, not just gay people!
Gotta love ellen. She just turned 50 and barly looks 40. We need more people like her in this world, people who stand up for their rights, and their beleifs.
ok so i love ellen…especially after what she said about SALLY KERN…i myself am trying to figure out what countries/cities have disappeared that i don't know about…blah…ok seriously…i have my opinions…i know who and what i am…but i live in a small minded community…i need help…any thoughts??????
It's so great to see someone so popular willing to say who she is and what she believes in…..you go Ellen…i love you….and besides you must be great having an Aussie partner.
Re: Homophobe – How can you be so ignorant this day in age? If you do not agree with being gay then just shut up about it. Don't pull names out of the air and tell people they are are sub class because of thier sexual orentation. Anyway soon the president that supports you horrible beliefs will be gone and an apporpriate representative will reign.
ellen is deff someone you can always count on to say what she wants to say and not give a f*ck. I love the fact that she brought the issue up on her show, and discussed it. We should not have people in the politics who are stupid as Sally whatever her last name is. She is an embarrasment! Go back to your damn trailor and stop your kids from having sex with each other!
Wow, Ellen deserves all respects for doing that… She's just awesome, thank goodness we gay people have someone like her to defend our rights, go Ellen!
you go Ellen!!!! there is no room in this world for a hatefull insticator like her! how in the name of christ did she get her postion???? there is enough hate in this worl with out her dumb ass!!!!!
well, it's definitely not the biggest threat, that's for sure.
however homosexuality is not a healthy or moral lifestyle. don't get me wrong, i love ellen, i love perez, and i have friends and family members that are gay and they are amazing people that contribute positively to society. however in the Bible in Romans 1:24-27, it explicitly says that it is wrong. there's really no argument about that passage. i understand some of you are not christians, and may not believe in the Bible, but all of you that believe this is the Word of God, its right there for you to read. and even if you don't, you should look into this, just as some information from the other side.
Ellen is such a beautiful human being! I can't believe this woman…disgusting. How did she ever get elected? I'll be working hard to make sure she's aware that she's been gravely misinformed.
RE: kjb: do you believe that a woman should be stoned if she's being unfaithful? that is in the bible as well. and do you eat seafood, that's a no-no as well.
Cici-
both of those laws are in the old testament. those laws are not necessary to follow (at least christians believe…jewish people still follow them because that is the torrah and they don't believe in the new testament) after the coming of Jesus, which is the new testament. the verse i gave you about homosexuality is in the new testament. i also want to point out that an adulterer came to Jesus and asked forgiveness. everyone wanted to stone her, but he said no, and that her sins were forgiven. this is just the same for homosexuality. it is a sin just like any other. just because someone is gay does NOT mean they are going to hell. i am a sinner just like everyone else in this world and i need Jesus just as much as everyone else as well.
Re: What a shock – You're a moron, just like that lady. It wasn't about being offended (because she's so obviously crazy, that it's funny), it's about how stupid people are…and these people are our politicians! And it was probably someone like you who voted them into office…nice job moron.
Re: kjb – Please, enlighten me, how is being gay unhealthy?? And how can you say that you love gay people when you think everything that they stand for is morally wrong? You're obviously very confused, and pathetic.
She's amazing! I just find it very sad that the posts about politics or that intent to discuss some more consistent issues usually hit just an avarage of 250/300 posts whereas a disposable one regarding LL or whomever gets in the 400s…"America" is so great.
it is a fact that gay men are at a higher risk than straight men for contracting hiv/aids.
and second, being gay is not everything someone stands for. its just one of many many many choices that a person makes. you're mistaken if you think whether someone is straight or gay defines who they are, because that is not true. and yes, i do love my friends and family that are gay despite that choice that they have made in their lives.
Re: kjb –
"however in the Bible in Romans 1:24-27, it explicitly says that it is wrong. there's really no argument about that passage. '
Good grief! Where to start with this? Just wrong on so many levels and a perfect example of how people like Silly K**t (am I allowed to put that, oops I just did) get elected. Newsflash - the bible isn't real! Its a collection of folklore tales that would have benefited the world so much more if Bill Hicks and Eddie Izzard had happened to have been around in those days!
Ooo religious freaks make me so cross. I read somewhere once that more people have died in the name of religion than anything else in history. It's total lunacy. No arguing with that passage eh? It's no wonder we're all screwed.
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From wikipedia:
HOMOSEXUALITY IN ANCIENT ROME:
Although it again and again becomes apparent that bisexuality was more the norm, even the ancient authors agree that there were ancient Roman men who had sexual relations exclusively with men.
Obviously, this lady that calls herself a teacher has yet to really read a History book herself. She's going to serve in an office based upon Ancient Roman principles YET mock homosexuality and quote untrue "facts" about the link between homosexuality and the crumble of civilizations.
Also from Wikipedia:
ANCIENT ROME
Ancient Rome was a civilization that grew from a small agricultural community founded on the Italian Peninsula in the 9th century BC to a large empire straddling the Mediterranean Sea.[1] In its twelve centuries of existence, Roman civilization shifted from a monarchy, to a republic based on a combination of oligarchy and democracy, to an increasingly autocratic empire. It came to dominate Western Europe and the area surrounding the Mediterranean Sea through conquest and assimilation.
Yeah, TWELVE CENTURIES!
O God. How was that statement bad in any way? Uh, as far as im concerned it's true. Unless someone can provide me with two people of the same sex that can have babies. And schools ARE teaching young kids homosexuality is okay, which is nothing that the schools should be talking about in the first place! THERE ARE NO SCIENTIFIC FACTS THAT SHOW THAT HOMOS ARE BORN HOMOES! So Perez, Ellen, and all you other queers, quit taking it so hard up the ass when you hear that someone doesn't agree with you! Face it, queers are the minority and we should send all of you to an island so you can DIE OFF!
well it could possibly be the reason why Atlantis is gone?
Perfect!
ellen, i love you.
Freakin' hysterical…she rocks.
I live in OKC and there is an anti Sally Kern rally on Friday the 14th at 5:30pm at memorial park. Memorial park is at NW 35th and Classen
sallykern@okhouse.gov, e-mail her your thoughts. I did.
I love Ellen!!!! She is so amazing! how can you not love her!!!????
Re: Homophobe – As an openly gay man I can tell you that I have never made a decision to be gay. Did you decide to be straight? I have never been attached to women, I was loved by my parents and I was never molested. My suggestion to you is to spend some time with some gay men & women. We are just like you we come in all shapes and size with varies personalities, characteristics and mannerisms.
Re: RADICAL QUEEN – #190 THANK YOU! TOO BAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN MY TOWN. I'M LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS. I HAD TO FIRE A COUPLE OF THEM LATELY. WHAT HETEROS DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMPETITIVENESS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND DRAMA…AND WE HAVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS….HOMOPHOBE BASHERS ARE JUST THE WORST OF IT. IT IRRITATES ME HOW THEY COME ON THIS SITE AND TELL US TO LEAVE!! LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN PLACES…SPORTS BARS, BINGO HALLS, SOFTBALL LEAGUES, POKER GROUPS ,ECT WHERE THEY MAKE FUN OF US TO "BLOW OFF STEAM!" WELL…..THIS SITE WAS PRACTICALLY MADE FOR US… AND WE'RE NOT LEAVING.
HA! HA!
Ellen!
I love you! That was great!!!!!
:D
Re: Homophobe – You don't have to like me and you sure don't have to fuck me, but you do have to fuck off!
On topic, Ellen's aiight. Not a big fan, but I do love this piece!
I dont think he was saying that she or anyone would be shocked or surprised. Shit is shit. But, i am kind of surprised you took the time to write that little ditty seeing how you're straight. mmmmmmm..
Perhaps you have lived in these United States so long that you have forgotten what we're all about over here. You might learn again if you WENT Back to CUBA and spent a day in their Intolerant society..and then you can come back and again and start over and be pleasant and stop with the hateful language and appreciate all of us brothers and sisters. Man, what short memories and ungratefulness ! IF you were born here the paragraph goes to your parents and then they can't learn to teach their children properly where they're from and why they should be more tolerant!
Brillant just brillant. I love Ellen too.
haha, when i saw this the other day i laughed sooo hard.
Daycare teacher here… We are not teaching two-year olds that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle. We're teaching them to respect diversity and understand that not everyone is the same. It kinda goes along w/ empathy… Thank you Sally Burn. Have a nice day.
love her love her love herrr
I felt electrocuted by Sally's words. I abhor it right at the bottom of my heart! It is really pitiful she said such things about homosexuals but what got me was Islam! One thing people misunderstood, terrorism is not Islam Jihad is a term of being at war to protect your home, your country. Jihad does not mean doing terrorism. Not even close! For Sally, that voice mail wont stop coming. Perez, thanks for posting this and Ellen, you're me fave!
Rally against Sally Hern at Memorial Park in OKC NW35th and Classen at 5:30PM
OMG, thank you Ellen, for putting national light on this situation through witty remarks like that… THANK YOU!!!!
Re: no wetback idols – please stop your hate. I am a caucasian gay male, and its people like you that cause this world to be destructed. Im sure u have been judged once in your life, and im sure u didnt appreciate it. So please stop. With every kind word comes a smile, and that makes this world a little less hateful every day. Thank you for your time.
She's so gorgeous. seriously, love the hair!
Can we not forget to mention that she said that being gay is worse than being Muslim, what the eff? Since when was being Muslim the worst thing for a person to be! People are so racist/prejudice that they don't even care about comments like that, its become natural in this country.
Re: What a shock –
No one said that it's suppose to be shocking… your sarcastic comment doesn't make sense to the context.
I laughed out loud! Go Ellen!!!
Ellen should tell that bitch that she makes enough money to buy the state of Oklahoma!! In the words of the great Kathy Griffin, Don't Fuck With The Lesbians!!!
I LOVE ELLEN! So funny & honest & so proud of her for speaking her mind, standing up for all people and be so brave!
Sally Kern's comments should offend All of us, not just gay people!
turning into rosie.
Gotta love ellen. She just turned 50 and barly looks 40. We need more people like her in this world, people who stand up for their rights, and their beleifs.
Go Ellen You so rock. This woman is nuts. No shes homophobic (SP) . People likeher SHOULD NOT be in our government!
ok so i love ellen…especially after what she said about SALLY KERN…i myself am trying to figure out what countries/cities have disappeared that i don't know about…blah…ok seriously…i have my opinions…i know who and what i am…but i live in a small minded community…i need help…any thoughts??????
Ellen is brilliant, and SO funny! Loved this!
you go ellen!
It's so great to see someone so popular willing to say who she is and what she believes in…..you go Ellen…i love you….and besides you must be great having an Aussie partner.
Email this idiot @ sallykern@okhouse.gov
I did.
Re: Homophobe – How can you be so ignorant this day in age? If you do not agree with being gay then just shut up about it. Don't pull names out of the air and tell people they are are sub class because of thier sexual orentation. Anyway soon the president that supports you horrible beliefs will be gone and an apporpriate representative will reign.
ellen is deff someone you can always count on to say what she wants to say and not give a f*ck. I love the fact that she brought the issue up on her show, and discussed it. We should not have people in the politics who are stupid as Sally whatever her last name is. She is an embarrasment! Go back to your damn trailor and stop your kids from having sex with each other!
so fucking stupid.
Wow, Ellen deserves all respects for doing that… She's just awesome, thank goodness we gay people have someone like her to defend our rights, go Ellen!
Ellen is the best. People like Sally Kern make me sick.
you go Ellen!!!! there is no room in this world for a hatefull insticator like her! how in the name of christ did she get her postion???? there is enough hate in this worl with out her dumb ass!!!!!
well, it's definitely not the biggest threat, that's for sure.
however homosexuality is not a healthy or moral lifestyle. don't get me wrong, i love ellen, i love perez, and i have friends and family members that are gay and they are amazing people that contribute positively to society. however in the Bible in Romans 1:24-27, it explicitly says that it is wrong. there's really no argument about that passage. i understand some of you are not christians, and may not believe in the Bible, but all of you that believe this is the Word of God, its right there for you to read. and even if you don't, you should look into this, just as some information from the other side.
hahahaha i love ellen!!!!! seriously!
ellen for president!
we love you, ellen!!!!!!!!
Ellen is such a beautiful human being! I can't believe this woman…disgusting. How did she ever get elected? I'll be working hard to make sure she's aware that she's been gravely misinformed.
RE: kjb: do you believe that a woman should be stoned if she's being unfaithful? that is in the bible as well. and do you eat seafood, that's a no-no as well.
Cici-
both of those laws are in the old testament. those laws are not necessary to follow (at least christians believe…jewish people still follow them because that is the torrah and they don't believe in the new testament) after the coming of Jesus, which is the new testament. the verse i gave you about homosexuality is in the new testament. i also want to point out that an adulterer came to Jesus and asked forgiveness. everyone wanted to stone her, but he said no, and that her sins were forgiven. this is just the same for homosexuality. it is a sin just like any other. just because someone is gay does NOT mean they are going to hell. i am a sinner just like everyone else in this world and i need Jesus just as much as everyone else as well.
she is just so great, i really love her. she is one of the best women i know! i'm gay myself..she is a great idol to me!
Ellen…. YOU ARE SUCH A CUTIE!!!! I LOVE YA!
Ellen Degeneres, will you marry me???? xoxox
GO ELLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: What a shock – You're a moron, just like that lady. It wasn't about being offended (because she's so obviously crazy, that it's funny), it's about how stupid people are…and these people are our politicians! And it was probably someone like you who voted them into office…nice job moron.
Re: kjb – Please, enlighten me, how is being gay unhealthy?? And how can you say that you love gay people when you think everything that they stand for is morally wrong? You're obviously very confused, and pathetic.
She's amazing! I just find it very sad that the posts about politics or that intent to discuss some more consistent issues usually hit just an avarage of 250/300 posts whereas a disposable one regarding LL or whomever gets in the 400s…"America" is so great.
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she says "…terorism or ISLAM.." .wtf! that is beyond racism.
are american THAT stupid?
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it is a fact that gay men are at a higher risk than straight men for contracting hiv/aids.
and second, being gay is not everything someone stands for. its just one of many many many choices that a person makes. you're mistaken if you think whether someone is straight or gay defines who they are, because that is not true. and yes, i do love my friends and family that are gay despite that choice that they have made in their lives.
Re: no wetback idols –
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ellens awesome. My favourite lesbian.
I frickin love ellen. She rocks the Casbah!
Ellen is a class act! And Sally is a damn nut. We love you Ellen.
Re: kjb –
"however in the Bible in Romans 1:24-27, it explicitly says that it is wrong. there's really no argument about that passage. '
Good grief! Where to start with this? Just wrong on so many levels and a perfect example of how people like Silly K**t (am I allowed to put that, oops I just did) get elected. Newsflash - the bible isn't real! Its a collection of folklore tales that would have benefited the world so much more if Bill Hicks and Eddie Izzard had happened to have been around in those days!
Ooo religious freaks make me so cross. I read somewhere once that more people have died in the name of religion than anything else in history. It's total lunacy. No arguing with that passage eh? It's no wonder we're all screwed.