This Is Not A Joke
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We're all for people having the right to bear arms (within reason), but…..
There needs to be a stricter screening process and background check!!!!
Some "accidents" just don't need to happen.
Like that dude that accidentally shot and killed his 9-year-old son after he mistook him for a turkey!
Yeah, he was allegedly high and drunk!
Well, it just happened AGAIN.
David Schmidthuber went turkey hunting with his 14-year-old son in Oldham County, Kentucky, this past weekend.
His son Steven got separated from his father about 30 minutes after entering the woods.
That's when police say the father mistook his son for a turkey and shot him!!!!!
We're serious.
The son passed away due to the shot.
According to police, no charges are expected to be filed.
We just can't even begin to imagine what that would do to a person: KILLING your own son.
What a fucking idiot!!!!!
Dear parents: please please please please PLEASE keep your children safe at home when you go hunting or will be using firearms.
It's just common sense!!!!!
i don't think it is a matter of keeping them home….but not shooting of they are not with you. my 8 year old son goes hunting with his father several times a year, but they sit in a stand TOGETHER and don't wonder off from eachother….and all the other hunters in the club know where the other stands are and know not to shoot in that direction
People and kids die in cars all the time. Where's the cry to get cars off the road? Come on people!!!! A gun is safer than most things out there. That being said, one must always keep safety as the first priority.
Well I grew up in the rural NE and I still think this is stupid.This isn't a rural vs. urban issue this is a not using your brain issue. What a dumb ass… first taking a young kid out so they can learn how to kill and then not having the brains to make sure their kid is safe. It's so much more important to kill that "turkey" than it is to make sure your kid is safe. Way to go rednecks!
LOL! It's the Dick Chaney Syndrome.
Re: Ashley – you idiot! "a majority of people drink when they hunt " you are truly a stupid person!!! i know SEVERAL people that hunt and none of them drink while hunting….it's a sport not something us "dumb rednecks" do just to have an excuse to shoot an animal!!!!
Perez, don't be a tool. How would a stricter gun regulation and screening process prevent someone from mistakenly shooting someone when they're drunk and hunting? The process is strict enough in many states, it doesn't stop accidents. It just lets the government keep check of who has what.
HAHAHA FOCKING STUPID WHITE PEOPLE… thats all i have to say
Re: Maggets – Learn to spell "MAGGOT" and "DICK CHENEY"
Hey now, I am from Kentucky, and I live very close to the county where this happened.
It is sad that this happened, but not all people from around here go out "huntin", and are not big rednecks. I was born and raised on a farm, and I have never been hunting.
There are a lot of people who do drink and use guns, but it is just like drinking and driving. IT SHOULD NOT BE DONE!
I have a question, why do people who hunt, or are from around Kentucky called hicks and rednecks? I know people from all over the US who are more red then I am, or could possibly be.
In many, many areas of the country, hunting is a major family bonding experience, as well as something of a right of passage. Most people I know took a hunter's safety course provided by the state DNR when they were 14, and even before then, nobody bats an eye when kids go hunting, just as long as they don't carry the gun. Accidents like these are just that- accidents. They're tragic, yes, but like any accident, they can be avoided with just being careful and using common sense when you're out in the woods.
Saying that you should leave your kids home when you go out in the woods to hunt just because they MIGHT get shot is like saying you should leave your kids home when you go out for a drive in a vehicle because you MIGHT get into a car accident. Both are equally useful and equally deadly weapons, depending on who's using them and how much thought and care the wielder uses while using them.
Re: zenja – I know, right!!?
Re: Matilda –
…You advocate "taking away" rights? Um. Stay out of my country, please. Restricting people from things is not the proper solution. Education is.
How could this idiot mistake a bird for a 14 year old kid? This doesn't add up to me. And like I said before he should get his turkeys from the grocery like most of us do. And no I am not for banning weapons but people are to careless with them.
Re: BarbaraSeal –
You are 100% correct. Parents these days forgot or dont care how to parent. Always making excuses for their children's bad behavior. The next generation is being brought up as a bunch of Psychopaths. No conscience.
Ha ha!! A drunk Billy bo , too bad he didn't shoot his own moronic foot off instead.
KIDS SHOULD NOT GO HUNTING PERIOD!!!! PARENTS SHOULD NOT TEACH THIS!!!!
OK, how do you "accidently" shoot your 14 year old son by mistaking him for a TURKEY! A TURKEY!!!! When your a 14 year old boy it's not exactly like your only 3ft tall..your large enough for someone to distincly see the difference between the size of you and a TURKEY! Was this boy on all fours in feathers?! I can understand being mistaken for ..a bear..or maybe something that has a human like figure to it…but not a 2 legged bird covered in feathers and has a BEAK! I mean for god sake…You can't seriously read this article and understand how you can mistake a PERSON for a TURKEY!!! Give me a break, i see alot of foul play — no pun intended– in the future for these cases. These fathers have to be drunk, high and have NO IDEA what a turkey looks like
Guns don't kill - People kill. Some people are just THAT ignorant. If you are taught the correct way to use a gun then you wouldn't make stupid moves like this. No - This is not an example of why there needs to be gun laws - This is an example of stupid people breeding.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
I am a true believer in gun ownership. I am a law abiding citizen. I don't kill game because I don't happen to like game food, and there is no open season on cows, for steak (a joke, people!). My home protection is a 12 gauge, and I will be happy to blow anyone away who invades the sanctity of my hard-earned , lovingly cared for home, and my family, all of whom can fire weapons safely.
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However, there are TONS of assholes who go out into the woods stoned, drunk, and just plain dumb, being stupid assholes that will shoot at anything that moves. PLEASE DON'T CONFUSE THEM WITH THOSE OF US WHO RESPECT GUN LAWS AND PRACTICE GUN SAFETY.
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Is this another set up for a donation site Perez?
GUNS DON'T KILL, PEOPLE DO.
GUNS DON'T KILL, PEOPLE DO.
GUNS DON'T KILL, PEOPLE DO.
While this is a tragedy, it is very uncommon. The two instances that you cite are very uncommon. For those two instances, there were hundreds of thousands of instances where adults and kids hunted together and nothing bad happened. How many deaths have happened to kids from drugs, drive-by killings, and sex crimes during the same time as these two deaths? Don't condem all hunters for the stupidity of one or two.
It's also common sense that it might be a tad dangersous to stick your dick up another man's ass, but you do it anyway.
Who hunts Turkeys anyways?……wouldn't that be like shooting fish in a barrel?
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ooops I guess not! LOL
Re: Ashley – Ashley, you obviously have never been hunting. For you to say that the majority of people who go out hunting are also drinking is just plain stupid and shows how retarded you are. If one person kills another with a car while drunk do you say that obviously all people who drive cars are drunk? What a stupid comment.
come on PEREZZZZZ
Yeah man we've got the right to carry a gun. This is where all goes wrong
Please just stick to drinking and watching some good old porn
At least no one dies
Re: Erica – Yeah, except in modern 2008 we don't need to kill our food ourselves, whereas we DO need to drive to the supermarket…
Re: suzy – Only cops get guns, huh? Are you a complete moron? You must feel very safe and cozy in your little life…People should STILL have the right to defend themselves.
What about the people in the "Hood" that go around carelessly killing innocent children doing they're "drive bys". You NEVER report those now do you?
You never make comments about how these "wannabe gangster(Thas the RIGHT way you spell it)rappers" Who talk about killing people with there "Gats".
Re: iansmom – You're as assnine as Ashley above. Where did you get the idea that hunters drink and hunt. Watch a few movies did you? I hunt, and my friends hunt and we NEVER drink while hunting. The vast majority of hunters are very safe, and never drink while hunting. Does one drunk driver make all drivers drinkers? What a stupid putz.
God damn hicks. That's why I live in good old New York…(and not upstate, Long Island).
["The son passed away due to the shot."] Gosh, so well-put. Another of that post's sentences comes to mind in re: the poster: "What a fucking idiot!!!!!" because, of course, "It's just common sense!!!!!" Face it, kids, if you're spending your time at this site, minute by minute you're investing your life in a nitwit who has made his dinero off other people's misery. Somebody invite this wanker to a turkey-shoot.
This HAS to be some stupid back woods trailor trash ppl
Saw a bumper sticker yesterday that read "gun control=people control." That's the mentality of the gun owners in this country. I'm so sick of the phrase "guns don't kill people, people kill people." right! with guns. I read that someone (#60) said "that's like saying Alcohol kills people." and, that it's the responsibility of the person drinking. but, someone drinking themselves to death only physically hurts the person making that decision. And, true, someone makes the choice of getting into a car drunk, but that's against the law due to the danger of the situation. Not sure I understand your argument.
At least castrate this fool!
How about that another Philadelphia police officer was killed - his weapon wasn't even drawn - he was just stepping out of his police car - by a gun that was meant for war….
GUNS KILL PEOPLE - and people who use these types of weapons only use them for one reason - TO KILL!!!!!
Re: Matilda – #95. Oh my Matilda, you are so right abour BARE ARMS. Just yesterday I saw a woman who weighed about 300 pounds with bare arms and I'll tell you, those things were flapping like butterfly wings. Truly hideous.
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Last week I saw a man who was a total bear, hair from his neck down to his ankles, looked like a freakin werewolf, and he had these totally hairly BARE ARMS, and that was awful.
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Yes, Matilda, I totally agree with you BARE ARMS should be illegal unless they are looking good.
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Put the can of beer down now Matilda, and sleep it off
Re: Ashley – You are an idiot! "the majority of people who go out hunting are also drinking.." where did you get that information! I grew up hunting, since I was 6. I have met and hunted with hundreds of people and I am now 27. I have never, not even once, seen or heard of one person drinking while they are hunting. That crap only happens once in a great while by some old, stupid rednecks. Turkey hunting just so happens to be one of the most dangerous types of hunting becuase you are usually with a partner who is calling the birds. The first thing you learn when turkey hunting is to always be aware what you are shooting at, and what is behind your target. It sounds like this guy just shot too quickly…. As for the drunk and high hunter… he should be locked up for life because he broke every rule of the outdoors and killed his kid. But dont confuse one or two idiots for the millions of responsible hunters out there!
Re: NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO POSSESS ARMS – If the laws stated that no one was allowed to own firearms, then only the criminals would have them. They have them illegally anyways. I think that all law abiding citizen should own (AND CARRY!) guns so that when a crazy mofo decides to kill random people in public places, we can protect ourselves. As for hunting: when you are hunting turkeys, you use a shotgun and aim for the head. A shotgun is accurate from a short distance (40-50 feet). That is not far- so this guy was obviously a dip shit and didn't know what he was doing.
Hunting for "pink snapper" is much more fun and rewarding!
It just doesn't happen to kids. Several years ago my friend's father was turkey hunting when a 7year old shot and killed him!! The boy's father turned him loose in the woods and told him to shoot in the direction of the sound of a turkey. My friend's dad was using a turkey call. It happens more than you hear about in the news.
Re: I have a suggestion – You are not intelligent.
Re: What the F@#&?!?! – Yeah a turkey and a human look SLIGHTLY different. That's why I told you, he needed the insurance $$$ to buy a new trailer.
I HAVE BEEN HUNTING ALL MY LIFE AND LET ME TELL YOU THIS IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BULLSHIT I HAVE EVER HEARD! WHEN YOU HUNT YOU DO NOT FIRE AT ANYTHING THAT MOVES SO QUICKLY. CHECKING YOUR SCOPE, POINTING, AIMING AND SHOOTING IS NOT DONE IN A SPLIT SECOND. I AM SORRY TO THIS FAMILY BUT THIS DAD IS A COMPLETE IDIOT AND SHOULD NOT BE HUNTING AT ALL ~ IT'S AMAZING THAT THIS IS THE FIRST PERSON HE KILLED…JUST AMAZING!
Re: Negrita – hunting is stupid but eating meat from a farm where they most likely abuse the animals is okay? You're an idiot. I hunt. I eat meat. I use all the parts of the animal and I am damn proud to mount them on my wall. Also, if hunting were illegal, animals would overpopulate and we would all die from diseases. Great idea! Unless you are a veggie, you have no right to talk.
well, i would just like to state, in MANY MANY MANY parts of the country it is VERY normal for kids to go hunting with their parent(s), especially after the age of 12 (which in Wisconsin is the age you can take Hunter Safety courses to get a hunting license).
i just want to say, as unfortunate and terrible as accidents like this are, and yes preventable, we shouldnt make ignorant generalization on topics we dont actualy know much about, now should we?
im all for better gun control, and i dont think this man should ever be aloud near a firearm again… but gun control (especially in regards to hunting rifles) is a little more in the grey area than black and white.
Or they could not go hunting in the first place.
That's right, Perez! We need more gun control. While we're at it, lets ban cars because stupid idiots like Paris Hilton drive drunk.
This is why the Europeans think you are stupid.
Re: Dave – GOD DAMN RIGHT!
Wild turkeys taste better than the ones you by at Piggly Wiggly assholes.
OK…this is just unreal. What the hell is the matter with these people. My husband and I both just finished our turkey hunting season and I don't see how the hell you can mistake a human being even a small child as a turkey. To all you stupid people out there who hunt, word of advise: before you pull the fucking trigger, now what you are shooting at. Lesson 101 in hunters safety!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i happen to know this family very well and the are taking this very hard! this is the south honey and sons go hunting with dads all the time! you have never steped foot in a patch of woods your whole life so keep your litttle snotty LA comments to yourself!
Hunting is Southern pastime as old as the dirt in those states. I am not justifying these actions or what happened, but kids grow up going hunting, handling guns from very early ages and this was probably so routine for them. I am a GIRL and grew up hunting in Texas, every boy I know hunts, has hunted and/or owns hunting guns for that purpose. Hopefully this man hadn't been drinking, because that is for sure something you should NOT do while handling a gun/hunting.
I have an idea. Since "people with guns kill people" Let's set up a Crack feeder and sit on the roof and shoot all the crack heads that go for feeding time.
Well someone has to go out and kill all the animals you fucking hypocrites eat everyday. I bet all of you devour turkeys at Thanksgiving and Xmas .
Here's the deal, when you hunt for turkeys, you are only allowed to shoot at certain kinds (male female, whatever), AND you are supposed to be able to identify that AHEAD OF TIME (=BEFORE YOU FRIGGIN PULL THE TRIGGER).
TOO SAD
I'll say what many are saying here, guns don't kill people, STUPID PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE)
JUST another reason to become a vegetarian …. SAD his life got cut short because of a turkey
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
There are more car related deaths than gun related deaths no matter how you slice it, but no one is calling for banning cars, are they?
If you get behind a wheel it is your responsibility to make sure you know what you are doing, and the same goes for guns.
I believe in gun ownership, but I don't trust myself to keep one in my home. More people need to be more responsible.
HEY MEAT EATER, WE DO ALL EAT TURKEYS (EXCEPT I LIVE IN AUSTIN, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TOFURKEYS, TOO), BUT NONE OF IS IS STUPID ENOUGH TO KILL OUR KID WHILE TRYING TO HUNT AND KILL ONE.
For once, Perez, you display your ignorance. I'm sure the 14 yr old was armed as well. THIS is why hunter orange needs to be mandatory. Taking children hunting is actually a great way for them to learn about gun SAFETY…if their teachers had any clue.
white trash idiots and ghetto trash have no business owning a gun.
they should have an IQ test to obtain firearms if they are going to be legal at all…..
yo, p - i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, hello? it's called culling the herd. if the idiots dont weed themselves out of the gene pool, we're all facing the sad reality of IDIOCRACY.
Perez, we live in the country. When hunting season hits (deer season) kids wear orange vests whenever they are outside! It just makes sense. There are so many idiots shooting through woods they don't see the road, a driveway or a swing set!!!
Re: trixie – That's bright [wtf?]
Guns don't kill….idiots do.
Guns are not the problem, the person behind the trigger is. We need better safety practices. The guns are just an item, like a car. If someone wants to kill people they do so with a car as much as they do with a gun.
Don't be so narrow minded.
The fathers should be in trouble to being idiots w/o the proper hunting gear (bright colors) so people don't shoot them.
And drunk… in the other case. That should be jail.
HEY
I GREW UP AND LIVE IN THE SOUTH MYSELF, and my husband is not STUPID enough to mistake our kids for a turkey, SORR
THESE "ACCIDENTS" would never happen if people hunted soberly and responsible (or not at all).
natural selection. hopefully these fucktards will kill themselves off and die out on their own.
Re: Tom Google Google – HUman taste pretty good too
Hunting is a way of life in Texas and we enjoy it. I have been hunting for many many years and I have never mistaken an animal for a child. This stinks a bit and should be investigated because the father was probably drinking.
Number 122, the Constitution is not the Bible, therefore it can be changed and updated you know.
THE TURKEYS ARE CHEERING!
I LOVE GUNS AND I WILL SHOOT ANY BASTARD WHO TRIES TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME! YOU ARE ALL BRAINWASHED SISSIES.
The father is the real turkey.
Guns don't kill people
Idiots with guns are what kills people.
Your sympathy over an accidental death reveals your true nature. Your opinion makes no sense in light of your lighthearted opinion about heiresses driving drunk and stoned, automobiles kill far more people than guns you buffoon.
Its called Darwinism
Hmm, I just love to kill and eat things! Come on my property and I will shoot and eat you to.
The only people who should have firearms are Military and police. these redneck sisterfuckers hide behind ammendments to display their insane version of freedom while the laws that cater to them affect the entire country!
complete and utter B.S Ban ALL Firearms and start enacting tougher Laws regulating the possession of DEADLY WEAPONS! IE… Weapons Built for the sole function of killing another human being should be gone!
Uh, why should the kids be left at home? Many boys (and girls) go hunting with their fathers at age 14. Besides, it's not like the kid doesn't know how to use the gun, and shot his dad. his DAD shot him! Not the kids fault.
How about don't use a gun when you're drunk/high/tweakin!
Guns should have a device on them similar to a breathalyzer on a car so it can test you for drugs/alcohol before you use it. A gun can't kill a person by itself, anymore than a violin can play itself. People with oatmeal for brains shouldn't have guns. Why should responsible people pay the price?!?!?!?
What was he doing letting his 14 year old son hunt alone? He should have been with his son or at least looking for his son and not shot at whatever moves. If you are going hunting with someone its best to keep them beside you rather than wondering in the woods.
Lets get rid of guns altogether (like SF). Can't fucking red necks trick themselves into feeling powerful some other way. Guns are for killing…period. Killing is shitty…Period. Mistakes like this shouldn't be allowed to happen once… much less twice in two weeks.
"We're all for people having the right to bear arms (within reason), but….."
COME ON PEREZ!!! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT???
If guns are legal then these things will happen! Nobody should have the right to bear arms, because you can't trust everyone to use them responsibly. Gun crime is incredibly high in America because guns are legal - it's simple!
high school massacres don't happen in countries where guns are illega!l
if nobody has guns for personal use then there will be less gun crime! GUNS KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN THEY PROTECT
the interesting thing is that while perez makes a point about not bringing children out on the hunt, the 14 year old was probably hunting himself. hunting is popular in my area and a lot of my friends gained hunting licenses at very young ages. of course being drunk and high while you do it is absolutely ridiculous.
If you were a good-for-nothing and wanted to rob me, but KNEW I had a gun and would use it, you would think again and move on. Right to bear arms, concealed weapons permits for everyone! (everyone without a criminal past or no mental problems….why should the rest of us do without?!?!)
STEVE IS A FAG WHO EATS FECUM MEATS.
Re: Dan – True dat! Fucking liberals KILL more people than guns!
STEVE HAS THE RIGHT TO EAT OUT AS MANY ASSHOLES AS HE WISHES. INCLUDING A TOM TURKEY.
this actually happened across the street from my house. the father and son were friends of my neighbors. he was a great kid and one that will truly be missed. this was not at ALL in the same realm as the man that was intoxicated and i wanted to make that VERY CLEAR. david loved steven very very much and that needs to be known.
its tragic and our small community is mourning the loss, but please know that it was a truly tragic accident, but still just an accident.
and hug your loved ones extra tonight because things can take them away in an instant.
The problem is all these F*c*ing HICKS
DUDE! THis is OLD, OLD news. The father is being charged with second degree manslaughter because he had alcohol and pot in his system. Keep up with the times!!!!!!
Do Not infringe on the 2nd Amendment just because some idiot gets high/drunk and recklessly kills his son…had it not been a gun - it probably would have occured during a drunk-driving accident. People hae a right to guns in order to protect themselves from criminals. I feel terible for the mother and the boy that lost his life…but, once again, it was a person killing another person - the gun went off because of that person. Fucking prick.
Re: Kate – You're an idiot. Where do most guns on the street come from - registered dealers? Same as drugs, right? I would feel much more comfortable having a legally owned gun in my home to protect my family. Go back to la-la land and continue living in denial……..
It's a good thing that the morons posting here are afraid of guns. Only responsible people should have access to guns.
It is fine to take your kid hunting. These dummy's shot at movement. You are taught in hunting and firearm safety classes to NEVER shoot at movement. You are to have a CLEAR view of what you are shooting at.
i live like 5 minutes from oldham county and from what i heard is that the dad was drunk when he shot his son. its crazy how do you mistake your son for a wild turkey?? i didnt even know we had any around
Hey, it's survival of the fittest!
If you're stupid enough to mistake your kid for a turkey, it's better off for the rest of us that your genes aren't alive and kicking in another generation.
you dont think its a conicidence that a kid got killed with the same excuse….its terrible that a child had to die, but it makes you wonder if that is the true story.
my dad used to take me out hunting and i never was in harm's way. I learned to fire a rifle at age 11. Its not "bad business," its tradition.