You'll Have To Go To Chinatown From Now On
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eBay is in some deep trouble!
Yesterday, a French court ordered eBay to pay almost $40 million euros (over $60M US) in damages to Louis Vuitton for allowing the sale of fake LV items.
The court has now stopped eBay from selling four kinds of perfumes, which are Givenchy, Christian Dior, Guerlain, and Kenzo.
They will also not be allowed to sell six LVMH brands.
The court determined that eBay had committed "serious errors" by allowing the sales of fake LVMH goods.
They also said eBay violated the perfume sales distribution network, which was setup by Louis Vuitton and Christian Dior Couture.
Of course, eBay said they are going to launch an appeal, believing the court did not uphold copyright law.
A spokesperson for eBay has said, "This decision is not based on combating counterfeit material. It is based on LVMH's desire to protect its commercial practices and exclude competition. This is being done at the expense of the consumers and sellers to whom eBay is always offering opportunities."
Hmmm. They have a point!
The case, which started a year and a half ago, stated that eBay knowingly allowed the sales of counterfeit products on its site.
The court also issued eBay a cease and desist order preventing it from running ads for the perfume and cosmetic brands. If they don't oblige, they'll face a fine of 50,000 euros per day, over $78K.
Gosh. Why can't they run ads??? That seems a tad excessive, no???
A rep for LVMH says, "It is a major first because of the principles that it recognizes and the amount sought."
What do U think?
Shit, I have some Kenzo perfume that I was going to list. I better do it fast.
I love eBay… i'm on their side on this. LV is yuck anyways
not to mention 2 expensive… LV should shut the fuck up, what, they r not rich enough, they need more money? Ebay does a great job at stopping fakes, eBay is the best thing that ever happend both to buyers and sellers.
Fact: LV purses are ugly as sin. The only reason people buy them (and the knock offs) is because they want to look like they are rich and are just showing off. Paying $500 for a purse is stupid. Paying $500 for an ugly purse is insane. Get real people.
I hope Ebay wins. If LV didn't want people to buy knock-offs, they could lower their prices. I will buy my purses at Target…
ebay deserves what its getting..they have been killing the smaller people that try to sel lon there for so long. ebay thinks they can control anything including the accounts linked to it wether its legal or not. i hope ebay has to cough up huge money in the end karma is finally coming to get them for all the nastiness they have given to their sellers.
when you work to build your own brand you should be able to protect it!!!!!
so if you want a cheap designer bag,
design one and put your own initials on it.
i can just imagine how happy you would be by someone making copies.
unless of course you were getting paid for it.
they say that imitation is indeed a form of flattery.
i say flattery won't fill your tummy. will it?
That sucks, I really like ebay for all the discounts you can get. They should go after the sellers of course they are the ones who are ruining it for everyone else who is being honest. I guess ebay should be more vigilant too but how can you tell if it's fake or not unless you see it in person?
please. why do ppl say first? can someone explain?
even the fakes are too expen$ive for me … anyone who would spend this much on a stupid handbag is crazy
Finally! It's about time ebay takes responsibility for allowing fraud to occur on their website regardless of whether it's LV, Gucci or Prada.
FINALLY someone puts the brakes on E-Bay for selling fakes. If you can't afford the real thing, too bad for you.
Hopefully, all the fashion houses will do the same.
most of the people buying from ebay cannot afford the real thing, so there will be less people wearing LV and less 'free' advertising as well.
Do people still buy LV stuff??? Anyways, I suppose this is a good move. Ebay is full of fakes and some people pay huge money for them.
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BETTER GET YOUR EBAY FAKE ROLEXES WHILE YOU CAN!
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If you think LV bags are a stupid price, then why not just go to a high street shop and get a bag from F21 or whatever for a cheaper price, where the money doesn't fund terrorists and drug dealers.
Whats the point of buy a fake LV, you are getting the worse quality and showing off a brand's logo that you can't afford.
It just makes you look cheap and stupid.
LVMH is fucking wealthy it belongs to France's wealthiest man Bernard Arnault they can do what the fuck they want!!
And i agree with them they have the right to protect their products.
While there are some good deals on eBay, I think the company itself is crooked as hell. I believe they allowed, and even nurtured, an environment for shill bidding & trotting. And, sometimes, S&H fees were so ridiculous that Amazon proved to be a better way to go with Free Shpping options on many items. Only recently did eBay stop allowing sellers to retaliate with negative ratings on customers who complained about sellers. I only buy from eBay about 10% of the time, compared to my previous purchases. Also, I've cut down on PayPal because they're with the same company (as eBay), and have increased my use of Google Checkout, instead. eBay's time is almost up. New companies are just around the corner, which I believe will be more customer friendly. eBay, you had it coming.
ebay should be going back on the seller (prosecuting) for selling knock offs-many of the sellers on ebay want to make a quick buck portraying knock off LV bags as "authentic". It's an easy place for scammers to make money off of hard working people.
Fuck ebay. Their statement pretending to care about Sellers / Buyers is laughable. eBay only cares about their own profits at the expense of Sellers / Buyers. I reported a thief one time that was using multiple ID's on eBay and had to go through a series of back and forth emails proving the obvious. The thief was a Power Seller. eBay wrote me an email saying they don't get involved in personal things. WTF? They didn't care that the guy was ripping off Buyers as long as eBay kept raking in the fees. I haven't been on that site in 4 years. Good riddance and bravo to this recent court judgment.
French courts?? French lawsuits?? Is that a fucking joke?? WHO gives a fuck about French law! Those retards cant even agree on a fucking constitution. They're all bark and no bite. They're arrogant, shit talking pussies. Why doesn't e-bay, an American company, simply tell the French courts to go FUCK THEMSELVES!!
Also Ebay sucks their products are fake.
Don't buy fake products it helps mafia organisations(drugs traffics,prostitution…)!!
Buy a real one or nothing.Respect the brand and the work.
I think it's BS. Ebay does not sell goods, they are a shop front for others who sell goods. Therefore, LVMH suit should have been against the individual sellers and not ebay.
Perez you should not promote fake products you suck!!
If you can't afford the real thing you should save your money to buy one or stick to purses from Target.
I think that as most companies try to do, their approach to maximizing profits is to keep their product exclusive and hard to get. This is an artificial approach that does keep prices high (see gas prices) at the expense of the consumer.
Re: Tokio – they blow ass.
i love kenzo amore :'D
Re: dubyk –
Wrong honey! I buy designer handbags that are actually beautiful, only ignorant low class people *like yourself* buy ugly things just because of the brand name
LV has very few bags in it's line that are actually attractive. The designers throw out absolute shit and then stamp LV's logo on it…sure enough some stupid twat (like you) will purchase it. You can honestly say bags like their hideous LV patchwork tribute purse are attractive? They have designed some UGLY bags! You obviously have no eye for design, art, or style. You must be really special to spend your entire paycheck from WalMart on some little bag- that isn't even cute.
LVMH are a bunch of cunts. Fuck them. Just go get the fakes at ioffer or something.
Ebay cannot sit beside every person that sells on their site to inspect every item to make sure they are real merchandise. This suit is just another way for the rich to get richer. GO EBAY!!
i offer.com……….better then Chinatown !!!
I tried to buy a fake on ebay–about impossible! Just the look alike "designer inspired" that I didn't want or old bags that were real…the one bid I put in for what was possibly a fake was taken off after one day due to "potential problems". Ebay is pretty strict about that stuff so they won't get sued…looks like they were sued anyway. No fair!
Let's see; a french court telling a US company to pay up? Sorry, frenchies, don't have to. The worst that can happen is that France can tell french ISP's not to allow ebay. French citizens will then have another revolution. No big deal.
What I think is the should bomb CHINA, its fucking China fault they need to stop making every fucking thing on the planet…
Re: lmfao – actually I've only bought LV leather bags…but the point is that even if you dont think the logo is attractive, its about respecting the brand, the image and most certainly all of the high end fashion designers who fight for their rights to keep their product exclusive. And btw…calling me a "twat" is low class…just in case your mother and father didnt teach you that. And if you knew anything about money and companies…I wish I was getting a corporate paycheck from Wal-Mart seeing as they own stores and real estate in every continent…but I guess trash like you wouldnt even begin to understand that. I would love to know how fab and stylish you must be with that cute language you use on a perezhilton RSS feed. Its a shame that people like you can post comments that have absolutely no relavance nor insight to a post.
People with fake LV are not fooling anyone. The leather on a fake won't turn that nice golden brown like an authentic one does. The stitching will be perfect, on the fakes it looks like it was stitched crooked and half assed. On the authentic the pattern will match each other on the edges it won't just randomly be cut. People that own authentic can spot a fake a mile away.
Re: kylih –
LV is NOT made in China. If you are buying a LV from China it's a fake.
I don't know how IOFFER gets away with it either.
Wow some of you commenters need to get off your high horse.
Acting like its a personal attack when someone rocks a knockoff for $40 when you've wasted hundreds of bucks on the real.
china town is shut down
the alley in downtown la is the place
for knock offs !
loove ioffer and looove my local flea market.
ha! oh no i got 4 "louis vuitton" bags on ebay like 4 years ago! i now own e-bay contraband!
as somone who purchased a LV bag from ebay - the seller claimed the serial number was stamped inside the bag and it would be sent with the original paper work - it was not - and when i reported it as a fake Ebay didnt do anything about it - they told me I had to prove it by taking it to an 'authenticator' - how about making your seller's provide what they state in the sale! Good. I hope ebay makes a poop swirl when it goes down the toilet. bastards.
canal st has signs everywhere saying LV wont be sold there.. the only people who have it are the guys with suitcases that walk around with purses.
Re: Halli –
youu know it !!!!!!
my friend got 3000$ for her graduation, and she spent it allllll on this beautiful gucci bag…. 1 week later i was in canal street saw the exact same one !! we compared our we couldnt tell a damn thing apart…
needless to say i got mine for 25$
Re: Joe –
LVMH is rich as hell they can buy your trash mother when they want.
And don't insult French laws France is famous for the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen.
The USA is a young country respect the adults slut.
Re: dubs – - I wouldnt call it a waste, theres nothing wrong with spending a lot of money on a bag, especially if its a timeless/classic style, it will provide a lifetime of use, your paying for quality that will last, and that $40 knock off is just not going withstand daily wear and tear and will soon start to look tatty. At the end of the day its about personal preference. and how and what a person chooses to spend their money on is their own business!!
Its funny that people who can afford the real thing want to pay a bunch of money so they can walk around like advertising billboards with these trashy tacky bags. Why on earth would ANYONE pay a lot of money to advertise someone else's business interest (as in their LOGO)? It should be the other way around… the company should pay the people to advertise their products.
The only people whobuy this type of product are people with severe feelings of inadequacy and low self esteem. They buy these thinking it will make them "more important" than they really are. They would be better spending the money on some good therapy so they don't feel so inadequate.
I think Louis Vuitton could make their $20 to make purses more affordable- and there wouldn't be this problem.
anyone who pays 2000 for a piece of cowhide is a fucking moron
Louis Vuitton handbags make me want to barf. They are ugly and most people carrying around Louis Vuitton purses are carrying fakes. Why would you pay +$1K to advertise for them?
Ebay is aware that it sells stolen and fake items…We have a jewelry store and several Rolex watches were stolen and put on Ebay…The police, FBI could not get the watches back…ZERO help from Ebay…Ebay is full of thieves and liars…I am sure the same is going on with the LV bags too.
Re: amyfi – my god. you hit the nail on the head…I have collected couture bags for 20 years by paying the price (literally) because I respect the workmanship etc that goes into them,HOWEVER now I just have them tucked away into the closet because of all the fake ones-Everybody and their sister has one, nothing special anymore-Looks cheap=typical sheep syndrome
Ebay is a big fraud. I've heard many stories of ppl being ripped off. I wouldn't buy anything. Just go and get the real thing!
I think the fake stuff should be burned. If you can't afford the real thing, why would you want to be walking around with a fake one that everyone knows is fake anyway. Why do you want to 'look' rich when your not? What do you get out of it? Respect? If people respect only people with real LV and Gucci then they can suck a horses bumhole! Those people are idiots. don't fall into that trap of that kind of stress. It's retarded.
Team Louise!!!
Im with Ebay on this one. If someone wanted a real LV bag, hopefully they would be smart enough not to buy it on Ebay.
obviously not everyone can afford Loui Vuitton bags and how the hell can ebay stop people from selling them online!! and you can't even find them in chinatown anymore hahah
I think LV should fight the copycats, not the medium through which they're sold
You're condoning ripping off legitimate business? LV, Gucci etc. obviously don't market their products to people who can't afford to buy them. They target the high-end crowd. They don't want to be associated with shoddy, second-rate merchandise.
They have every right to sue anyone who is copying their line. That's like Paris Hilton suing anyone who remotely rips off her name for their own gain, right Perez?
The people that buy the fake stuff do so because they can't afford the real deal. So even if the fake stuff wasn't available those same people still wouldn't buy the real stuff. LV isn't actually losing any money.
People buy LV because of the quality. It's not going to fall apart on you, it's something you can pass down to your daughter and it will still be a good quality bag. If anything does happen to your bag you can send it back to LV and they will fix it. They stand by their product. Most people that down LV are those that can't afford it.
I love eBay, and while I think LV is probably more concerned with their own end of things, it is important to consider where the fakes come from. I used to buy them for fun since the real ones are only getting more expensive, but I don't want to promote and contribute to child labor in any way - and the majority of these types of counterfeits are traced to these circumstances.
Like anyone other than people living in France give a shit about French Law??
Re: Steph –
oh shut up it's their products they have the right to protect their brands Americans are so narrow minded what a shame!!
Grow up!
Wow I can't stop laughing at all these people who think they're SO COOL because they can afford LV. I probably could too, but I prefer to spend my money on more important things like food and bills. There are so many more important things in the world then blowing a couple grand on one purse. The LV bags look super cheap and tacky. Shut up with all the boo-hoo about respecting the brand. Fashion is about looking good and being unique. Not being a clone of everyone else. I got a purse from payless shoe store a few years ago and it's still just in great condition. I think the people acting like they are oh-so-fashionable because they get LV are HILARIOUS. I love how you all act like you're so above everyone else because you're so cool…you can spot a fake bag anywhere! wow! if only everyone had those superhero abilities! It's AMAZING how cool you ALL ARE! OMFG I WANNA BE LIKE U!
Re: ladyM –
I'm willing to bet that my clothes are not only cuter than yours, but the fact that I'm not some idiot falling deep into debt only proves that I am more intelligent than you are! I'm only a college sophomore, and I'm happy with the clothes that I buy. I'm also glad I have the knowledge to know that I can't blow a whole paycheck on one item. You're probably a spoiled brat who gets these bags from your parents credit card.
Good for the French court!! I totally agree. Selling fake designer bags with a designer's logo and name on it goes toward making money for someone else at the designer's expense. Designers and fashion houses are artists and groups of artists who have worked long and hard to build up their brand and name and careers. Why should some no-life in the middle of a rundown neighborhood be able to sell stuff illegally that bears the name of a respected, hard working art group?
Even when the work doesn't bear the name of the designers but uses their designs, that is STEALING! That is THEIR DESIGN, not everyone's. The fraudulent maker didn't come up with it. The design is the art, the WHOLE point. You people who say "well, I can't afford the real thing!" too bad!! Either drop the $3000 on the LV or go to Wal-Mart and get cheap crap! Don't wear someone else's art without paying them for it!
someone should sue Louis Vuitton for taking advantage of all the idiots and retards out there who think it is real fashion. They're basically scamming them out of thousands for a purse that only cost about 50 cents to make probably.
The US and other countries need to create and enforce laws that ban any production of products that are implemented or fashioned from designs by other makers, or designers, also strictly banning the sale of such items. They should boot all these rinky dink sunglass and handbag stands from malls that advertise with the names of famous designers and copy designers' work.
I have that exact bag, but i have the real thing. this fakie looks just like it
There was a report on NOVA about the lives this shit stealing disrupts; from human slavery to make this shit and all the crime in NAPLES.
Most of you are utter pov's.
If you can't afford a LV product, then you have NO RIGHT to get a fake. It devalues the brands image to include scum. I don't see anyone having a whinge at ferrari for charging AU$500K for a car. If you actually bothered to visit a LV and look at their products, you'd know that most of their products are made in France and Spain, with the exception of watches (Switzerland) and sunglasses (Italy). The hourly manufacturing wage these countries is (as it should be) significantly higher than that in China/india.. we're talking 50c vs $20 PER HOUR. LV's handbags are bespoke (i.e handmade for you dummies) products meaning that they use high quality leather and canvas.
If you retards have never actually owned a real leather LV bag, you'd never appreciate the smell, the supple feel of the material, the beyond superior quality and the overall feel-good factor of each bag.
Like most people have been saying.. anyone who knows fashion can spot a fake a mile away. For me, it degrades the person socially.. i wouldn't bother associating with someone who is trying to be someone they clearly are not (IE FAKE). Any other bag is better than a fake.
Most of us worked hard for our LV bags - they are a symbol of our hard work and motivation to succeed professionally. A luxury bag isn't a luxury bag when everyone has one (or a fake).
Going back to the car analogy, while there is a premium for luxury brands, a $1 million Rolls is not the same as a $12K Kia. The difference is due to more sophisticated materials, labour and technology; and the fact that the Rolls is handmade vs 100 every hour for Kia.
Perez, as someone who can afford Louis, you shouldn't be siding with eBay. Real LV bags last a lifetime, fakes do not.
PS. to whoever was dissing brand names about not being creative: SO WHAT! the world does not revolve around you. 'Creative' hippies like yourself attempt to 'create' fashion by wearing a bag made out of curtains or whatever. You whinge about brands because you are not talented or professionally gifted. These fashion houses have been around a lot longer than you have so obviously they know what defines fashion and trendy. You are jealous, cheap, obnoxious, and often need a haircut.
Viva LV!!
Re: Amand – totally agrees with Amand… Sooo 2000! Get over it already, LV should consider themselves lucky that people are still willing to buy the fakes!
good for them. i don't buy lv because of all the ghetto girls carrying the brand. it devalues it.
Re: steve – I know, it's almost like saying guns kill people…no people kill people
Re: badpu – I get what you are saying, but I have a real LV and I wear clothes from Wal-Mart…
I think that people who buy designer bags with flashy logos all over are pathetic just as much as people that buy fakes.
Re: AnnieJ – Wow, you're materialistic. What's left of you when you take your name brands away?? Anything or is that all you got going?
Re: Jo na – Not everyone buys "flashy bags" because of the logos. I've coveted the LV bag for 16 years because of the leather, definitely not the ugly brown logo for heaven's sake. People need to quit harping on others, it shows insecurity.
Good! Fuck eBay! eBay does nothing to police the selling of counterfeit products. This shit makes it harder for those of use with legitimate designer items to sell our goods. I hope this take eBay down hard. Along with their fucked up new feedback policies, they deserve to lose a lot of business. Also, shame on the kinds of people who buy this crap anyway. If carrying a cheap knock-off makes you feel good about yourself, then go ahead, but please don't think for a moment that you fool anyone with your fake, mall kiosk "Chanel" or "Louis Vuiton". Have some pride in yourself and save up for the real deal. It feels nice to carry real designer handbags and wear real designer accessories and not look like a soccer mom with a vinyl "Gucci".
im glad that they're finally stopping people from distributing fake bags and goods around. It diminishes the purpose of a luxury item by making fake, phony bags.
I agree w/ Zooel….wht goes around comes around! eBay has been killing the smaller/honest sellers and chasing them away for so long, its bloody horrible! Karma is finally coming around, yehhh!!!!
Fuck Louis Vuoitton
the fakes LOOK so FAKE… the leather straps dont turn brown with the oil from your hands… and the straps are tooo beige and look shiny… you can so tell the difference so if ur buying or selling a fake, you can't fool someone like me… i, unlike most of you wannabe's who will do anything to have a label, am not stupid… ugh just take that money and buy a real leather bag from a real leather bag maker with no logos.. unless u just want to be and look like something ur not…
So if LV is so damn concerned about their product then why is it they won't write you a letter of authenticity? Maybe THEY should HELP eBay protect the LV brand instead of being complete assholes. At least Coach was working directly with eBay when it came to counterfeit items. Let's also see another factor of this highly lame lawsuit: French product in a French Court against an American company.
I think the authentic Louis is even more shitty and tacky then the fake. What loser would want to advertise wearing that granny looking shit!!
Fakes should not be allowed on eBay- especially when they are presented as real…no one should be allowed to rip anyone off. People that carry the fake ones just look stupid anyways. LV is doing them a favor.
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Who f*cking buys those ugly bags anyway? Anybody who would pay full price to advertise LV is an asshat.
I have bought and sold on ebay for 7 years, and they have always been very cautious about misrepresentation of name brands. They have policies and disciplines for that. I am surprised they could have let that happen. It's too bad.
SERIOUSLY, WHO GIVES A DAMN???? WITH ALL OF THE CRAP GOING ON IN THE WORLD TODAY, WE CARE THAT SOMEONE IS BUYING A KNOCK OFF LV?!! PRIORITES ARE SO OUT OF WHACK ANYMORE.
Every time I see someone with a Louis Vuitton bag all I think is: Malnourished Ego. Only a total LOSER would walk around with that LV shit on her shoulder.
ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME!!! I spend money for the real thing then some trash comes with a fake one!! That's why I neverbought the brown monogram every Asian chick has tons of fake ones!! Whatever !
OMG who cares bout LV bags anymore, all the low class people killed it for everyone else cuz they get them at the swap meet! That includes every other designer bag too…..you can spot one from a mile away. Sounds cruel and harsh but believe me I'm not the only one who feels that way. Anyway, just settle it!
the main problem with the fake bags is that they are often sold by organised crime synicates to help fund their drug and counterfieting operations - fake LV bags are not a victimless crime.
did you ever think how people get the money to set up the factories to make these fake bags in the first place? there's big money behind this, and buying fake bags is supporting an evil industry.
Re: D –
It is actually important
fake products commerce help mafia organisations(drugs traffics,prostitution…)!!
Buying LV or any other "new" luxury item on ebay is risky. What gets me is that I reported what I knew were obviously fake Yurmans to them and they never did anything about it. ever. So, I gave up. Stick to used items or less popular styles and you reduce your chances of getting burned. You have to use common sense. By doing so, I've never had a problem.
Thank goodness about time i'm tired of seeing 15 year olds walking around w/ their $40 bag deface my 1400.00 bag…. If you can't afford it don't fake it!!!!!!
what is wrong with the french court? WTF!
Greedy, greedy. Everyone is greedy. Now where will I sell that LV bag I never use?!