Out Of Love
Filed under: Courtney Love > Frances Bean Cobain
Courtney Love is pissed at Billy Corgan and she's letting the whole world know about it!
There is some drama about her daughter Frances Bean Cobain's sweet sixteen birthday party.
Writes Courtney:
"corgan
im at work and too tired to find you or geta number you havent sent me out of whatever misguided shame thing your going through thats a private comnversation however YOU DO NOT MAKE CHILDREN CRY.
GEARRD WAY WHO WOULD DO IT IN FIVE SECONDS AND HAS EVEN ASKED AND BEGGED EVEN FOR HIS BANDMATE TO NOT HAVE HIS HONEY MOON THAT TIME MADE SURE TO PROMISE TO BE THERE A SWEET SIXTEEN IS A BIG EVENT I THINK SHE L;OOKED UPON YOU AS FAMILY , I KNOW SHE DID AS TRUSTWORTHY AND WISE AND YOU CANT LAY THAT BIG MAN SHIT ON A CHIDL OF 9 AND OF FORTY -MY CHLILD SOBBING DUE TO YOU IS UNACCEPTABLE, I HATE STATIBNG THIS ON SOME RANDOM PUBLIC FORUM BUT THE LINE IS THE KID MAN, THE LINE IS THE KID, AND SHE DOESNT GET TO SHED TEARS OVER YOU, HER FAMILY ALREADY HAS DONE THAT DO FROPM NOW ON AND TRUST ME SHE WONT EVER CALL YOU AGAIN, YOU CAN SPEAK TO ME IF SPEAKMING TO MY FAMILY AND ILL PASS IT ON. WICH WONT HAPPEN EITHER DUE TO THIS ABSURD SHAME YOUR HAVING I WAS AND WONT EVER SAY ANYTHING OF NEGETAIVE CONTENT PUBLIICALLY ABOUT YOU - BUT YOU MAKE MY 14 YEAR OLD CHILD SOB ON PURPOSE, THATS ENOUGH OF YOU,.
YOUYR THE LAST MAN ON THE ISLAND YET YOU DOBNT UNDERSTAND HOW COME THEYRE ALL SO ALIENATING.
HUBRIS MY DEAR HUBRIS ON A LEVEL IVE NEVER KNOWN THE FRENZY OF RENOWN YOU MISS SO TERRIBLY JUST ADMIT IT ACCEPT IT AND LET IT GO IN THEMEANTIME DONT MAKE MY KID OR ANYONES KID CRY AGAIN I THINK MY CHEM ARE DOI NG IT ANYWAY FRANCES BEANS SWEET SISXTEENS IS BLOODY IMPORTANT TO HER AND TO ME.
COURT"
Can anyone translate that for us????
Update: Thanks to Kylie for decoding!
Here's a version in English of what Courtney said.
"Corgan,
I'm at work and am too tired to find you or get a number that you still have not sent me. Out of whatever misguided shame thing you're going through (that is a private conversation), you do not make children cry.
Gearrd Way, who would do it in five seconds and has even asked and begged for his bandmate to cancel out on the honeymoon of his (coinciding with the sweet sixteen.. so he can do it), made sure to promise to be there. A sweet sixteen is a big event and I think she looked upon you as family. I know she did, as a trustworthy and wise (child), and you can't lay your shit on a child of 9, and you as a man of 40 - my child sobbing, due to you, is unacceptable. I hate stating this on some random public forum, but the line is the kid, man- the line is the kid, and she does not get to shed tears over you. Her family has already done that. From now on, and trust me, she will never call you again; you can speak to me and I will pass it on to my family.. which won't happen due to this absurd shame you are having. I was and won't ever say anything of negative content publicly about you- but you made my 14 year old child sob on purpose. That is enough of you.
You're the last man on the island, yet you don't understand why they are all so alienating. Hubris, my dear Hubris, on a level I've never known, the frenzy of reknown, you miss so terribly. Just admit it, accept it, and let it go. In the meantime, don't make my kid or anyone's kid cry again. I think My Chemical Romance is doing it anyway for Frances Beans Sweet Sixteen. It's bloody important to her and to me.
-Court"
[Image via National Photo Group.]
Ok is the kid 9, 14 or 16..she randomly throws all those numbers out in her rambling nonesense?
I have a headache. Reading that wasn't worth the advil i have to go buy.
crack is funny.
Re: yea –
no prob
yeah billy has been around the block a couple of times…so the word flies around
as for frances being a brat
totally untrue
true she wants mcr at the birthday but her forcing one of the members off their honeymoon not
cort wrote a note to mr way way is trying to figure shit out because he'd like to do because smashing pumpkins is one of their main influences
i think its a way for gerard to get in touch with an idol…
FIRST OF ALL
She is personal friends with alll people mentioned so it hurt her very badly when they said no for no particular reason. THey are her famiy friends. Franny has been let down by some of the only male role models in her life, how would you feel if your father had passed away (RIP) and then one of the men you look up to that is similar to a father figure lets you down?????
Cool it jerks.
My Chemical Romance?
That poor child, can't even get a real band for her birthday.
ouch! billy's an old lover of Courtney's and he's turned down the Sweet 16 gig??? ouch ouch ouch. what has befallen them? maybe he was drunk when Francis Bean talked to him and didn't realize he hurt her feelings. It happens–hard to believe, but famous musicians do tip back the bottle every now and then.
hey Courtney why don't you ask the FOO FIGHTERS to play at Frances' S16?
FRANCIS BEAN IS GONNA BE A DRUG ADDICT JUST LIKE BOTH HER PARENTS IF SHE'S NOT ALREADY!!!!
Cadillac, Cadillac long and dark shiny and black
Re: Kylie –
'Hubris' is a word, not a name. The sentence should read:
"[It's] hubris, my dear - hubris, on a level I've never known. [It's] the frenzy of reknown you miss so terribly."
Basically she's saying that Billy Corgan is so upset that no one cares who he is any more than he is puffing himself up and making himself look too important to play Frances Bean's party.
Why the fuck is she bringing GERARD [learn how to spell] and the rest into this mess? So unnecessary. Kinda weird for Gerard to make Ray [guessing] postpone his honeymoon though. Love him, but don't be desperate.
Jeez people~ Hate much??
So does Courtney even know how old her own child is? Is she 9, 14, 16? Crazazy…
Why is she planning her daughters sweet sixteen birthday party two years ahead of time??
it's a friggen *birthday party* for crying out loud. It's not like he's her father or uncle blowing off HS/College graduation, wedding or Nobel Prize ceremony.
Are MCR seriously playing there?
If so, I just lost the last of my respect for them…
I don't think I have ever said this word, but I'm saying it now…."trainwreck".
I think Frances is gorgeous. She seems to have that old classy black and white movie type of face. You can see her Dad's looks in her too.
What a fucking retard.
OH Court.. not in public.. Now it's 1994 all over again with the fighting and a yr of penance.
Billy- it's not 1991 and this aint fall at the mondrian. Please be nice to Frances. She loves you.
Now bury the hatchett and move on.
Re: alyss –
haha- this made me laugh- good one!
GERARD WAY = Poor man's Billy Corgan… or in this case….
cracked out Rich Ho's Billy Corgan..
Re: Bootylicious – Eew. Your "attention seeking" avatar is nauseating. Blheck!
SHE IS ALMOST 16 YOU MORONS.
Billy broke her heart.
Kylie is my hero…brilliant!
THis August is her 16th birthday.
I was going to see the pumpkins on their your this fall but I don;t think i can support a meanie like that.
Billy broke her heart.
courtney love is a dumb bitch
Hubris, sometimes spelled hybris (ancient Greek ὕβρις), is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, self-confidence, supercilliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution. In ancient Greece, hubris referred to actions which, intentionally or not, shamed and humiliated the victim, and frequently the perpetrator as well. It was most evident in the public and private actions of the powerful and rich. The word was also used to describe actions of those who challenged the gods or their laws, especially in Greek tragedy, resulting in the protagonist's downfall. WTF!
courtney commented lauren conrads myspace a few days ago asking her to go to the party 2… how random
team lauren
Billy can't go because his next tour starts in August. Anyway, he's helped Courtney too many times to count, which make this entire episode completely stupid. Especially her posting something this personal to the public.
If this young girl is crying it's probably because she has a mother like Courtney! Imagine being a teenager and having to deal with that sh**!
Shame they picked such a shitty band to play on her b-day.
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Gotta love hypocrisy present in Courtney's post. She's basically stating Corgan is selfish and a bad parental figure for not showing up at Frances' birthday, yet she is such a good parent that she doesn't remember her daughter's actual age and is still obviously hooked on drugs, and is not selfish enough to make someone postpone his honeymoon because this kid's birthday is obviously much more important…
Yay, Gerard! Shame on you, Billy! By the way, Frances Bean looks very pretty in that picture. Happy sweet sixteen. Woop woop.
Okay, and her mother's behavior over the years has never made her daughter cry? Puhleeze. And is she 14 or 16? It doesn't seem like Court can decide. She is a disgrace.
gerard way is so great, and i love francis
Wow…wtf is wrong with Courtney?! It gets to the point where I actually feel sorry for her.She can't even write.I wish the best for her daughter and hope that she's more like her father than mother.
There's a woman in Greensburg, Pennsylvania named Julia S. who rambles like this - it's the alcoholism and drugs at work here in Courtney and Julia. And, the STD's have gone to their brain, too.
I love Frances! We were born a week apart
Uh, try GERARD Way. Thank you.
oh come on, she's fuckin' 16. I think she'll live if he's not at a birthday party. Besides, he has a tour to do in August.
WTF???? Crack chatter. Thanks for the translation.
I thought I could make sense of the translation, but alas I cannot…
ahem, gerard*
Hard to decipher, yes, but I'm at a bit of a loss, as to how it's any different from the comments you read on this site. I find it particularly hilarious that so many people, that cannot spell, write or form a complete sentence, have posted on here criticizing her spelling and grammar. Irony is a wonderful thing.
I have a feeling that the "14" may have been a slip of Courtney's typing fingers (one of many from the looks of it)… Pretty sure she's actually 15.
As far as I know, Corgan used to - within the last two years at least - live with Courtney and Frances, he had his own wing in their house, so some shit must have gone down there if Courtney doesn't even have his phone number. I can understand why the kid's upset really, I don't think it's necessarily a matter of her being a brat and being pissed just because she can "only" get My Chemical Romance to play at her party, more that he's a person she's become very close to and it's upset her a fair bit that he's blowing off her birthday party, because she wants him to be there. I think that might be the point behind Courtney's garbled nonsense.
First of all that drugged up bitch needs to get spelling and typing lessons.She should of gotten hooked on phonics instead of hooked on crack.Second of all.If Billy Corgan doesn't wanna play that bitch's daughter's 16th birthday party he doesn't have too.If he said he would.Then you know shit comes up and it happens and sometimes you can't do what you planned to do.Thats motherfucking life.you're gonna get dissappointments.life goes on.If this is her daughter's biggest dissappointment(which its not.)..consider yourself lucky and move on.How the hell is ranting like a retarded monkey setting an example for your daughter?Its only showing her its okay to act like a snobbish brat when you don't get your every little way instead of showing some class and tact about it.Courtney love is a waste of breath.
Sorry,this needs to be re-translated.
oh BOO-HOO.
im so sorry you cant have the lead singer of fucking smashing pumpkins,this must be the hardest moment of your life,Frances! for fucks sake,when she turns 18 she'll give a shit fot those two bands!
lets be freakin honest,i she wasnt kurt's daughter would bully or mcr give a shit?
OF COURSE NOT.
Welcome to reality little frances,where people couldnt care less if youre turning sixteen or not.
yeah,i wouldnt cancel my honey moon for that shit if i was frank iero.
its the cobain family we're talking about here,HELLO.
"you made my 14 year old child sob on purpose"
yeah,courtney,you daughter is FIFTEEN,arent you invinting billy for her SIXTEEN year old party? Ok,so i guess that makes her FIFTEEN.
Is this woman's first language English?
What?Since when does MCR do BIRTHDAY PARTIES?
D:
Oh and it's GERARD WAY,not GEARRD!
Billy Corgan is an ass! I hung out with him once, and was most definitely turned off by his attitude toward his fans. He mocked them, despised them and felt that no one deserves his talent. I ended the evening very quickly when I called a cab to take me home.
it's only a birthday party goddamit. probably franny doesn't care and it's the mother with her crackbabble who can't deal with corgan's rejection
Alright,
If all of you hate her so much then get off of here.
First of all.
Courtney knows Gerard Way and I'm assuming MCR is going to play at Frannie's birthday.
Second off FRANCES IS 16. I don't know if Courtney made a typo about the 14 or not.
And i'm not really sure about the Corgan thing
Just leave them alone.
O.K. So in Francis Bean 9, 14, or 15???
and is it just me or does she look more like Billy Corgan than Kirk Kobain??
Courtney and Billy were dating back in the day..
Gerard Way asking a band member whose going on a honeymoon to cancel so they can play at this kids party? are u serious lol. I feel bad for Gerard you know he's scared of courtney and will just do whatever she says so she won't like attack him haha.
frank is /touring/ with is band leathermouth right now, ray's supposed to get married…she was probably wasted when she wrote that. gerard has better things to do.
aaahhhh miss courtney love … your daughter is fifteen, not fourteen.
oh boy..
i still love her.
ok…is the future druggie 14 or 16?
Damn courtney is sooo messed up! god bless her daughter and courtney. it is so sad when your mother is around but she is so high that she is not there emotionally.
They look like working girls looking for a date??
my chemical romance are playing at her party! thats so unfair
Excellent work, Kylie. Courtney should employ you.
I cant believe I just wasted two minutes of my life reading that nonesense. And now here I am commenting on it. Boy I need to get a life!
The horrific spelling, and run on sentences and all CAPS are a nightmare to read. Why bother? The bad grammar and punctuation make her look like an idiot, though she means well.
Re: lee –
ha that's funny!
I WANT A GOLDEN GOOSE!
Re: Bean –
I'm still trying to figure that out too.
what?! Gerard Way would never ask one of his band mates to do something like that. I think Courtney's still on crack. If only Kurt was still around.
Frances bean is cute, but I wouldn't even wear heels like that at 15. My mom would have a FIT!
Actually what it IS about is that Billy and Courtney dated on and off for a while now. I know Billy is "friends" with Gerard Way from My Chem. She said Billy didn't send her a number. The number is Gerard's. I guess that Gerard not playing her birthday is why Frances is crying and the only thing Billy did wrong is not give Courtney his number. She's needs to take a fuckin chill pill.
[re=2541725]Re: sarah[/r
Exactly, My Chem are way cool and grounded. So why the hell are they playing for Courtney Love???
How do you know thier friends?????
just curious.
Re: Megan –
Really???
What did he say?????
I had no idea that they knew eachother.
Why would she want Billy Corgan to play at her party anyway? There's a way to scare the crowds away. PS> this was suppose to be a PRIVATE e-mail from Courtney Love to Billy Corgan. You are so classy, Perez.
Re: alyss – Funny. Oh, it's because the Foo Fighters suck.