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Amanda Peet Causes a Stir - Issues Apology
Filed under: Baby Blabber > Jenny McCarthy
Someone might be getting a Jenny McCarthy beatdown!
Amanda Peet had a few choice words for parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids in the July issue of Cookie magazine.
The pro-childhood vaccinations actress said, "parents who don't vaccinate their children are parasites."
Peet has since issued an apology for her 'mean and divisive' comment but stands firm on her position regarding childhood vaccinations.
Like Jenny McCarthy, there are many who believe that vaccinations could cause Autism.
Thankfully, Peet acknowledged that name calling has no place in the ongoing debate.
What do U think about this issue???
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Posted: July 17, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I'm a nurse and I find it appalling that celebrities with influence over the public disregard the necessity of vaccines due to unproven claims. Vaccines do not cause autism…Period, it is a genetic disorder. But without vaccines look at what will happen to your children if they contract any of the diseases! Brain damage, paralysis??
Re: Graci –
Not only that, but I believe there is an ACT that was established and voted relatively recently that completely leaves all of those pharma companies not responsible for any type of autism if it is found to be causing it. I wish I remember the name.
Re: reali – Acually I was NEVER influenced by any movie star my doctor acually informed me yes a doctor!! I dont care what movie stars say or dose I just learn the facts and both sides of issues and with this one im leaning more towards no vac… Iwould rather not chance puttin my child though a vac that might give him or bring out whatever the case is autism… I as a mother couldn't live with that..
Maybe Amanda shouldn't have been so harsh, but I think that not vaccinating your children is ignorant and almost borders on abuse. There are so many debilitating illnesses/diseases that vaccines prevent our children from contracting, why wouldn't you want to prevent that? Obviously there isn't overwhelming evidence that vaccines cause autism or else it still wouldn't be a requirement for public schools and colleges. And yes, autism is a sad disorder and no one wants their kid to be autistic, but it's not a death sentence and it's not painful (well, at least not physically). I'd much rather have a child with autism than have my child die from smallpox or be stricken with polio. There are always going to be studies conducted and we shouldn't change everything based on a STUDY. That is ridiculous! They have not found a specific link.
Re: metal – I don't take medicine unless there's an excellent readon to do so, unless I know exactly what it is I am taking and why, and unless I'm fairly confident that the benefits outweigh the risks.
Either way, it sucks if you die or are permanently imparied. It does. Unfortunately, the world goes on without you. You people are so full of yourselves and teaching your offspring to be the same. But you know, let's keep polluting the world and attempting to ensure that all the humans who personally matter to us continue to populate this planet for as LONG as possible. ROFL American companies send formulas to 3rd world countries: convincing young mothers there it will be "better" for their child than their mommy's natural milk. Thing is, their water is polluted, the formula doesn't always work as a succesful nutrient anyways, excluding the danger from the water, and many of those babies fail to thrive, get sick and die. But you know, TRUST BIG COMPANIES!! They care!
Re: punch – That doesn't suprprise me a bit. PEOPLE>>>ALSO KNOW THIS: As a mother, it is SCARY AS HELL not to vaccinate. We don't for one moment take the decision lightly. It is a calculated risk, where we weighed which scenario scared us more….and getting the vax was way scarier, after we RESEARCED BOTH SIDES. I suggest you do the same.
And once again: THE CDC WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT THERE IS A LINK….NEVER. THE COUNTRY WOULD SHUT DOWN FROM THE LAWSUITS….IT WOULD BE PANDEMONUIM….NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
amanda peet might want to do her research before she talks next time, because there are many honorable studeis that show that immunizations are due to autism, they may not be the sole factor but they deff. play a role! I get so annoyed when people talk and they dont have a cluel……..
Re: Mama – Re: Mama – WOW - I did do all of this and my kid is still autistic. tell me what i did wrong? I would LOVE to know
Look at how many studies have been done on certain foods that are supposedly linked to cancer, it doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get cancer, there just may be a chance. And while it may be true that they have found a link between vaccines and cancer, it doesn't mean that it will cause it in everyone. Everyone's biological makeup is different and no vaccine or medication effects two people the same exact way. Lots of medications have side effects, does that mean you avoid the medication that could make your quality of life better because you MAY experience headaches or nausea? I hope Jenny's kids never contract any serious illnesses because she chose not to vaccinate them based on a study that's not even proven fact.
vaccinations is good! you never know what's gonna happen, and it's better to have tried it, than having a sick child. No one has ever gotten sick by it, so why not just do it, just for the sake of it?
Amanda Peet ROCKS!
Go Amanda! At last, a celebrity with a brain. Those who don't vaccinate their children are lowering our herd immunity and making those who can't be vaccinated (because of immune disorder or severe egg allergy) exceptionally vulnerable. I am the mother of a child with autism. But thank god, he doesn't have polio, dyptheria, small pox or spinal meningitis. Public health doesn't work unless everyone participates. Thank you, Amanda. Beautiful on the inside - and out.
ur born with autism not injected with it…
bottom line: i agree with Mama
Although research does not prove that vaccinations cause Autism, I teach children with Autism, and I will definitely choose not vaccinate my children on the suggest schedule by pediatricians. If Amanda did any research she would realize that some vaccinations combined in one day, as suggested by pediatricans, deposit toxic levels of perseveratives and heavy metals in the children's system.
It is being said by many studies that Vaccinations DO NOT CAUSE Autism… but they DO TRIGGER AUTISM in carriers of the genes. Therefore Vaccines are waking up a dormant gene and the child in question, who would not have been Autistic otherwise, now becomes Autistic. So no vaccines do not CAUSE it, they JUMP START it.
I'm sorry, but I really agree with Amanda Peet.
#1) Numerous statistical analyses have shown NO correlation between vaccination and the development of autism.
#2) The suspect ingredient, a mercury-containing preservative called "thimerasal" (sp?), is no longer in vaccines.
#3) The CDC strictly tracks all suspected vaccination-related incidences.
#4) When parents choose not to vaccinate, it weakens "herd" immunity. This means that some poor kid who cannot take a vaccine for medical purposes (allergic reaction, autoimmune disease, cancer, bone marrow transplant) is MORE likely to get sick, not just your own kid. You are endangering other children when you choose not to vaccinate your child.
#5) I find it to be ethically questionable to withhold a protective vaccine from a minor who is unable to decide whether or not it is safe for him/herself. A child is MUCH more likely to die from meningitis, rubella, mumps, epiglottitis, or measles (all vaccine-protected diseases) than from an autism-spectrum disorder.
For all of your idiot readers, maybe they are the ones who need to be informed. Amanda Peet is 100% correct, there is no evidence to suggest that vaccinations cause Autism. As a early childhood educator, I am appalled that anyone would choose to not vaccinate. We are all part of a community, and as a member, we owe it to the other members to not put them in contact with diseases that they wouldnormally not come in contact with. It is socially irresponsible and extremly selfish to not vaccinate your child as you are potentially putting the lives of countless OTHER PEOPLE'S children at risk.
Amanda Peet is right!!! There's no real evidence it has anything to do with vaccinations, it's all just hypothetical. There's more studies proving that it has to do with additives and preservatives in our food!
Do your research with some real evidence!!! Don't make your kids suffer, eat right and get them their vaccinations.
Go Amanda! People who don't immunize their children and idiots. Outbreaks of diseases (like Measles) have been showing up in the US and continue to be a burden in developing countries. By not vaccinating their kids, people will prevent global eradication of diseases. What's important is to not immunize children too soon with too many vaccinations. Boo on Jenny McCarthy. There is no scientific evidence that vaccinations cause Autism. She's not a scientist and is sending a bad message to Americans.
definitely vaccinate there are no studies that prove the two are connected…and like people have said..if your kid isnt vaccinated..they cant get into schools…
She should really shut the F-Up up and be thankful that her daughter is healthy. Last time I checked she had neither a medical degree nor a background with the proper education/expertise to put down other parents. She's an actress… b/c level at best. She should stick to what she knows.
Do you know what is in a vaccine? Neither do I because drug companies wont say!! I would never put that poison in my child. I will tAke a chance with measles! Besides if vaccinations are so great why do you care, YOUR PROTECTED RIGHT!?!
amanda peet is uneducated. shame on her. my son's autism has a whole lot to do with his vaccinations. i would never ever vaccinate another child unless it was a life or death situation. vaccines poison, particularly ones with mercury in them, such as the MMR. get a life ms. peet. hopefully your children's health will be spared despite your stupidity.
Vaccinations are good to prevent diseases.
I wonder why other countries are so against it.
There is not enough proff that vaccines cause Autism. Autism is being over diagnosed. When people speak out against vaccines, like Jenny McCarthy, everyone listens and ignores the smart doctors.
Illnesses like chicken pox and others are on the rise because people are not vaccinating their kids..
I am a board-certified, US-med school grad physician. I also have 3 children who are all up to date on their vaccines. There is absolutely, unequivocally NO evidence that vaccines cause autism. There is, however, much more awareness of autism, which is why it now seems more prevalent. In the past, many autistic kids were just called "hyper", "slow" or maybe (sadly) even "retarded". The risks of the diseases our childrens' vaccines can prevent are much more harmful than the vaccines' potential risks. Being an ophthalmologist, I have seen many people who are blind b/c there was no rubella (german measles) vaccine available when their moms were kids. Trust me. Do the right thing for your kids!!! If they are permanently disabled (or worse), you will regret it forever.
This is such a controversial topic, and it's unfortunate that Amanda Peete is being criticized for expressing her viewpoint just as Jenny McCarthy did. I work with children with autism everyday and it is a complex disorder that we unfortunately do not yet have a cure for. Parents are faced with an important decision to make, and while I have my own opinions, I would strongly encourage parents to do some research into the scientific findings surrounding vaccinations; I would suggest looking into data-based peer review journals to ensure that what you are reading is scientifically backed, not just something someone wrote on a website.
Yes, vaccinations are not perfect and there are some risks; however there are also risks of fatal diseases that vaccinations can prevent that children die of everyday. The MMR vaccine especially has caught a lot of heat, and I think it is important for parents to know that there are options. You can have your doctor administer the vaccine in 3 smaller doses over a period of time and you can request the vaccine from a manufacturer that uses fewer preservative chemicals. Please carefully consider the risks involved each way. For those against the vaccine again, please do your research in imperically-based studies and use some common sense. While some children who were vaccinated do have autism, 99% do not. Additionally, some children who were not vaccinated do indeed have autism. I hope that we can one day find a cure for this disorder, and until then I hope that all the loving parents out there who are trying to do the best for their child will do their research and make the best decisions they can.
Thank you, people who choose not to vaccinate their children. Thank you for your complacency regarding actually lethal diseases, misguided paranoia, and thorough disregard for the community at large. Thank you for creating a public health problem in a country that should appreciate its ability to finance the kinds of immunizations that poorer countries still suffer under. But hey, it's okay, when a preventable epidemic breaks out, for the most part, it'll only be your children who are affected. I hope your children appreciate the sorts of risk in which you're placing them. So, yes, thank you for your overprotective worry and "doing your research" whatever that may have been.
team amanda!
Vaccines do not cause autism. There's more mercury in the freaking fish you eat. Maybe fish causes autism too and Jenny should start protesting seafood. Sadly we DON'T KNOW what causes it so people feel the need to blame something because they can't stand the fact that we just DON'T KNOW YET. Why don't we put all this energy toward funding autism RESEARCH instead of telling people not to vaccinate their kids? It's a COINCIDENCE that kids are diagnosed around the same time they get their vaccines because it's just the age when kids really start to develop behaviorally, correlation does NOT imply causation. Before we knew AIDS was caused by a virus, people had tons of crazy ideas about what caused it. A lot of people blamed the nitrate "poppers", a common "club drug" among gay men. Now that sounds ridiculous but back then many people believed it.
Re: bestm – Actually only one manufacturer uses Mercury in it's MMR vaccine, and you can request a different brand from your doctor. Additionally, you can request that your child receives the MMR vaccine a little at a time, i.e. Measles, break, Mumps, break, Rubella–broken up over a period of time so that the body isn't overwhelmed with all three at once.
The Center for Desease Control admitted that in the case of Hannah Poling, the vaccines DID cause her Autism. She had a mitochondrial disorder that would never have caused a problem if she had not had so many vaccines at once. Her mother had the same mitochondrial disorder, yet is completely normal because she was never exposed to the multitude of vaccines. You have absolutely no way of knowing if your child has that mitochondrial disorder or a genetic propensity before you get a vaccine. You are just told to get it. In 1980 you got 10 vaccines by the age of 5, now you get 36 before you are two, and no adjustment is made in the dosage for the size of your child. A one size fits all is ridiculous. Some vaccines are great, but others, for non-deadly diseases, are not great. It is for the parent to decide, but Amanda Peet is ignorant for her statement. There is a reason that there is a fund from the governement for vaccine injury. No one says stop all vaccines, just make them safe with safe ingredients for only deadly diseases.
You're a scumbag Amanda Peet and I'll never see one thing you do ever again. You are the one who is a parasite and a piece of shit too. Hope your kid doesn't become autistic but if she does, you deserve everything you get.
What a crock of shit. vaccines don't cause autism my brother showed signs of autism before he ever received the stupid shot.
Paul Offit– paid mouthpiece for the vaccine industry, co-patent holder (with Merck) for the Rotateq vaccine, from which he stands to make millions and which already killed a child after being on the market for only a short time– has been complaining for a while about celebrities like Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey speaking out about vaccine risks. Jealous, jealous. It was only a matter of time before he tried to cultivate his own pet celebrity to tout the vaccines-are-always-safe-just-ignore-that-pile-of-bodies-in-the-corner party line. I'd been wondering who would be naive enough to step aboard that sinking ship. Looks like Offit found his sock puppet.
Amanda Peet really has no idea what she's gotten herself into. She really was led to believe that this is an open and shut case. I don't think anyone can recover from having been so loudly wrong about such a devastating issue. As the truth about the epidemic comes out more in the years to come, she may very likely retreat into a brittle, rigid little shell and will have to make her world very tiny, closed and acquiescing after this stunt– not a great stance for an artist and especially bad for a new mother.
The government has already conceded in several cases that vaccines cause autism. The only question remaining is precisely how and by what mechanism and that answer isn't far away.
Amanda you piece of shit parasite— I hope your kid becomes autistic and maybe then you won't be so quick to believe that scum Dr. Offit.
I'm sorry to hear that Amanda Peet feels the need to apologize for communicating her feelings on this topic. You have a right to speak your mind and those that don't vaccinate risk their children being harmed by diseases that have long been forgotten thanks to the work of many medical professionals. I don't hear Jenny McC saying she's sorry for expressing her opinion. Amanda has science backing her opinion. I doubt there is any big conspiracy. Haven't they shown that the decrease in the use of the category of mental retardation offsets the increase in the use of the term autism? Stay the course Amanda - it's your right too.
Vaccinate people…they're your kids for goodness-sake!
I DO NOT vaccinate my kids, 5,7,9 and they are completely healthy. If you think injecting your kids w/ LIVE diseases are healthy, then you are a parasite! i cannot imagine giving my kids 3-4 shots as an 18 month old and then giving them doses of tylenol b/c " they might experience some irritiability and redness" is outrageous. get informed and read something other than "medical"journals–b/c guess who funds vaccines???
Re: jules – if the school is state-funded, a child does not have to be vaccinated. and if they attend a private school as my kids do, it is up to the Board to approve–and they did. But up until this school, my kids all attended public schools and day cares and have NEVER had a shot in their life
I wish all the uninformed individuals who are pro-vaccines had a day with my autistic daughter. She had seizures and regressed immediately after her shots. If it does not affect you WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE??????????
Re: jules – You are an uneducated idiot, do some research before you spout at the mouth! It is called an exemption, every state has either medical, religious, or philisophical exemptions (not necessarily all 3), but like I said if you actually bothered to do some research you would have already known that!
Milf,I understand .. ok I dont! But we need vaccines as well to help our children avoid dangerous diseases that have so far been MIA for decades. I think there might be things that cause this illness; it may be genetic in some cases and in others, similiar symptoms might be present with those who have had bad reactions to immunization shots.. it really might be completely different illnesses with the same symptoms. I just don't see how vaccinations could create something that is normally a genetic disorder brought on by dna mutation. But then again, im no scientist!
Not one case of vaccinations has been linked to autism. Autism just comes out around the age of two if your child has it. A study was completed about five months ago that showed there is absolutely no link between the two. Do your homework.
Who's Amanda Peet? Any idiot who trusts that pharmaceutical companies are really trying to keep you healthy is just that, A IDIOT! Most vaccines are not needed. It's a business, not health. Be sure to vaccinate you son for cervical cancer, that's a real good one! She probably believes the commercials on TV for the latest pill to cure her leaky plumbing, or her husbands ED. Funny stuff! Be sure to vaccinate your children with a vaccine that has mercury as a preservative, it only causes a little bit of brain damage…..no big deal.
Autism is a treatable disability. I'd rather my child have Autism then die from a disease I could have had him/her vaccinated against.
the vaccinations absolutely DO NOT cause Autism. The facts are that many of the problems attributed to Autism develop around the age that you would have vaccines. To not vaccinate your child is a decision each parent should make, but to believe some simple website (ie. 909 or w/e) is rediculous. You cannot base decisions like that on unresearched garbage on the net. It is irresponsible to deny your child the ability to fight the diseases they would be vaccinated against. It is irresponsible to allow the return of these disorders after they have been so carefully researched and a vaccine has been found.
C'mon folks… just because Jenny McCarthy says its true does not mean that it is. You cannot cure Autism (otherwise it would not be a Developmental Disability). If her son was cured by the diet she altered then he was most likely misdiagnosed.
Peet should not have used that language, as it is entirely up to each individual parent. But I must agree with some of the sentiments. It's a health risk to your child if you choose not to vaccinate. Plain & Simple.
I'm sorry, but maybe it's best to risk it than get a debilitating disability! A disability is FOREVER- who will take care of your child when you are gone??? A disabled child just cannot function in society this day and age when so much is expected of people! How will that child finish college? Is that even possible? I think I would rather be dead that be hit with such a disability in which my thought processes were all askew. It's not fair to the child to live like that for a lifetime! I'm sorry, but it's just not ok to do this to a child!
In her book Jenny also claims her child was cured of autism from a dairy/wheat and casein free diet….
If you know anything about Autism it is NOT curable. It takes YEARS of intervention to make progress. I know, I work in the field everyday! Kids aren't just cured after a year or 2.
There is NOTHING proven about vaccinations! From my perspective it has to be a combination of genetics with an environmental trigger.
I cannot believe a Hollywood starlet actually said something that makes sense. Only IDIOTS, misinformed and delusional, have such disdain for preventative care. Try dealing with a young child inflicted with polio or any other horrible disease before spewing such garbage (ahem, Jenny McCarthy). Her career is obviously in the toilet. This could be her oh-so-subtle way to get back in the press.
What is tragis, is that, if videos posted of Amanda and her daughter are accurate, her daughter is already well on the road to exhibiting signs of Autism. Sadly, with Amanda's blind and ignorant denials, and her effort to be PrOffitt's mouthpiece will result in her daughter joining the ranks of Autism; which jab will push he over the precipice? Tune in and watch (those of us who watched our own children descend into this Hell just wish she would wake up before it is too late for her beautiful baby to have a life free from this horrendous disability…We march to stop the madness, not to ride on her vaccinated child's coat-tails (ours are already vaccinated and PERMANENTLY disabled); rather to save her from the physical, spiritual, emotional, financial, and social ruin that are part and parcel of having a child who suffers from a severe neurological disability. Her ignorance, unfortunately, is a tragic form of pride, which may well "goeth before the fall" of her baby's healthy future…
Re: freddy2fan – You haven't died because of all of the parents that DID vaccinate their children. Remember the majority of the diseases that children are vaccinated for used to kill or disfigure people (polio, small pox, tetanus, etc). I just want to know what these idiots like Jenny McCarthy are going to do when they get people to stop vaccinating their children and these terrible diseases return. I guess that even if their kid dies of tetanus they'll have a clear conscience that they didn't contribute to the possibility of them getting Autism.
But studies show there is no connection between vaccines and Autism anyway. End of story.
It is sad how uneducated and misinformed most Americans are on this issue. Vaccines in no way lead to Autism, mothers who are bitter such as Jenny want something to blame for their pain.
In reality, if kids do not get these vaccines, many diseases will come to haunt us as more immigrants come into our country (think TB and how it is coming back again in droves).
All pediatricians, including my mother, are astounded that the "common" folk buy into these studies that are just used in the media to cause an uproar, even though not one study has been "Statistically significant."
Also, if it is the vaccines then why are boys diagnosed 10x more often than girls? They just did a study and found it has more to do with gene abnormalities meaning it is there FROM THE START!!
come on people, think. Jenny should read actual scholarly peer- reviewed journals and research studies, rather than some crap written by someone who has no qualifications.
no brainer: vaccine your kids if you really love them. Do not think that you are smarter than Doctors who get 9 years of just medical school! Go Amanda P!!
If you think that scientists are not going to discredit any study that shows a link between vaccines and autism, you are nieve. Can you imagine the lawsuit if they easily admitted the harm that vaccines have caused our children. It is like fighting big tobacco. We grew up without fast food, and cleaning agents in our homes, times have changed and we are poisoned everyday by the environment around us, that is just a fact. Jenny McCarthy spoke up, she is the ultimate insider, and should be supported. How many people die of cancer today, than before? Health professionals have to believe in their industry, or they wouldn't believe in themselves. Support children, not chemicals and pharmaceuticals. Put somemore mercury in your teeth, it is hazardous waste as soon as they remove it, but not while it is in your mouth. Stay stupid and stay sick. You deserve it!
Re: me2 –
haha.. that is quite hilarious.. she thinks her child was cured of a mental disease by eating vegetables and whatnot! LOL! what a fucking idiot! it is quite clear her child was misdiagnosed!
Re: geez –
no question that those diets do have some affect on children's behaviors and cognitive awareness but from my experience in the field of autism it's only made a difference on about 25% of the children I work with over the last 10 years. It's most important to point out that these are not cures! when a child is diagnosed with autism he/she will unfortunately not be cured. I watched Jenny on Oprah one day also and though she has many good points and she stressed the intervention that her son received. … There's NO way that children are cured. they make progress but she's giving parents false hope. It's really sad. It takes YEARS to make that much progresRe: geez –
well, she has to sell her book, right?
TEAM JENNY
AMANDA SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT HER CHILD IS HEALTHY BUT ALL THE REST OF US THAT THINK THAT SHOTS AS THE MMR ADDS TO THE AUTISM EQUATION WISH WE COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND REFUSE THE FOUR OR THREE SHOTS AT A TIME NORM. I WISH I HAD THE INFO THAT IS OUT THERE KNOW AND MAKE AN EDUCATED CHOICE. I MEAN WE LIVE IN AMERICA WE DO HAVE CHOICES RIGHT. IF AMANDA CANT UNDERSTAND THAT SHE SHOULD COME AND LIVE A DAY IN MY LIFE.
I am studying to be a behavior analyst. ABA helps children with autism. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT ANY ONE FACTOR CAUSES AUTISM. The experts do not know exactly what causes it but believe it is a combination of factors. NO ONE CAN MAKE A PARENT VACCINATE BUT IT IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD. NO EVIDENCE IT CAUSES AUTISM. PARENTS WHO DO NOT VACCINATE ARE PUTTING THEIR CHILDREN AND EVERYONE ELSE AT A MUCH GREATER RISK. Amanda Peet should not be so crude. However, other parents need to become informed. ALSO….PLEASE…..IF YOU DO NOT VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN…..KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE REST OF US. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER POLIO EPIDEMIC!!!!!!!
Re: DJ – Ummm actually cancer death rates keep going down. Thanks to early detection and preventative screening.
I've already commented on this story, but I think I'll do it again, because after reading a lot of these comments, I'm just shocked.
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I'm shocked that people talk about things they hardly know anything about. There are no studies covering the link between autism and vaccinations? Maybe that's because scientist are making money off the the vaccinations they create and distribute.
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And do we really even need studies when the are so many first-hand accounts of parents taking their babies into getting vaccinated and seizures, high-pitched screaming and blank stares resulting and then eventually autism? Those are all the case studies you need in my opinion. And to totally disregard them is just ignorant. My own brother had this type reaction from a vaccination, and my mother stopped it, and luckily he got better. My other brother and I thankfully had a safer reaction.
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Everyone is different, and there's no saying how any particular baby or child will react to a vaccination!
I'm not saying all autistic cases are solely caused by vaccinations obviously. But when someone is injecting all these chemicals and live viruses into babies, there are bound to be negative reactions in some babies, just like some people have reactions to penicillin, etc. And for anyone to degrade other mothers from not allowing their children the chance to experience any negative reactions from happening sickens me.
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Do you not think that if these unvaccinated kids eventually do contract one of the (very) rare diseases, we'll not be able to treat them in this day and age?
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I think it's a responsible capable mother's choice and what she thinks is best for a child, in what age her kids will be vaccinated, which vaccinations, etc. And NO ONE else's.
Re: con – There is no is no evidence linking vaccinations and autism. Thimerosal, the mercury containing compound that can be used as a preservative because it prevents microbial growth and contamination is largely no longer used in vaccines. Vaccines are now packaged in single use doses, eliminating the need for this type of preservative. And guess what? Autism rates are not declining.
Re: Danii –
I'm not advocating mercury in vaccines, I certainly avoid mercury amalgam dental fillings (I prefer to get my mercury via tuna), and if it is not necessary to use it as an additive in vaccines then I would say don't do it. However, I would like to point out that we do ingest many "toxic" compounds everyday (your charcoal grilled hamburger contains known carcinogens!). It's all about dosage. Too much water can kill you.
I'm not trying to draw a parallel between adults ingesting small amounts of hazardous compounds and developing children receiving thimerosal. I understand that developing bodies can be particularly sensitive to some of these things. Rather, I am trying to make clear that freaking out upon hearing the word mercury really demonstrates a lack of fundamental biological and chemical knowledge.
Re: DJ – Thank you DJ. Hopefully others will soon start to learn/realize this. I couldn't agree with you any more.
Re: Sarah –
I am familiar with the in vitro data on the biochemical pathways that are affected when thimerosal is dumped on cells in culture. However, these same metabolic changes are seen in cells upon treatment with a variety of chemicals. There is no effect seen in the thimerosal treated cells that is also seen in solely in autism victims. No smoking gun here.
I sympathize with the parents of autistic children and they have every right to ask all of the questions that they are asking. But in my opinion the fanaticism without evidence demonstrated by people like Jenny McCarthy does more harm than good. It focuses attention solely on thimerosal (which, to reiterate, no link has been shown, even without it in vaccines autism is not declining), when there are so many other areas and possibilities to be investigated in relation to autism. One of these ignored possibilities may provide real answers.
Children need to be vaccinated but maybe not for so many things all at once. Vaccines save lives and we would have a lot more dead children if it were not for vaccines. However, pumping a small child's body full of "denatured" pathogens in a small period of time might not be the healthiest thing around. The shots should be spaced out more.
Amanda Peet is an idiot. She should have put that in her apology. Not only were her comments mean and divisive, they were completely unintelligent. There is no metaphor in existence that could explain the use of the word parasite in her statement. What the hell? You would think if a star was going to be a total dumbshit taking sides about an issue they obviously know nothing about, but think they do because they're a new parent, they'd at least put forth a teensy effort to sound like they have a brain. Boycott Peet forever. Vaccines contain mercury, formeldahyde, etc. They do cause autism. Even the head of the CDC said there is a link. Stupid, bitch.
Science and LOGIC has proven time and time again that vaccinations do NOT cause Autism. This is the mindset of a bunch of neurotic neo-hippies . While babies and children SHOULD be watched for allergic reactions right after the vaccination, the odds of children having a BAD reaction are much more rare then the benefits OF vaccinating your kids! stupid fuckers. Where has the logic and common sense gone in this country.
The one thing we should bitch about is the mercury used in some vaccinations. They say this "might" cause autism….but again ,it has not been proved. However I think there are other alternatives to use in the serum to keep the vaccination "fresh".
SMART EDUCATED REALLY REALLY COOL PEOPLE –> VACCINATE THEIR KIDS
DUMB, STUPID, UNINFORMED, UNEDUCATED, SUPER-GULLIBLE, CANT THINK FOR THEMSELVES IDIOTS WHO BELIEVE WHAT AUTISMISCAUSEDBYVACCINESIKNOWBECAUSEIMNOTADOCTORIMJUSTANANGRYMOTHERWHOCANTBLAMEGODFORMYKIDHAVINGAUTISMSOIWILLBLAMEVACCINES.ORG SAYS JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY IT, NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE REAL PROOF, DUMBASSES –> DONT VACCINATE THEIR KIDS
This is simple. It's just a genetic mutation more prominent in the human body as it ages. Some studies show it's linked to male sperm accumulating mutations over time. You know what? Blaming it all on vaccinations is ridiculous! How many millions of children are ok? I think people just can't face the fact that THEY did something wrong or that it is just a defect in THEIR DNA! Honestly as well, the symptoms are so varying, that it sounds like doctors just try to lump all of these kids with different problems into one category claiming they have "autism". Just another excuse to pump kids full of drugs. If a diet helps 25% of the time, that is a great start to help a child! Who knows? Maybe all that gunk people stuff their kids with is full of pollutants and carcinogens and they do not even know? Hormones and the like? Our water supply is even tainted… there likely will be all kinds of illnesses popping up out of nowhere.. but this illness is just a genetic abnormality, right?
But aside from that, it's interesting that this woman knows so much after being a mother for a few months! LMFAO!!!
Anyone who actually believes Amanda came up with that response on her own is a moron. She should be ashamed of herself for getting herself involved with this issue, when she her words are totally based on the "expert opinion" of a man who holds several patents for vaccines and is highly paid to promote vaccines. She should keep her yap shut until she has a child with autism and sees her child go from normal to autistic after having him/her vaxed.
For all those people out there who think vaccines no longer have toxins in them capable of causing autism, take a look at the cdc's website that lists the ingredients in today's vaccines. If you think aluminum, formeldahyde, and antifreeze are safe chemicals to inject into innocent babies then by all means have at it. It doesn't take a neuro-scientist to know these so called health experts are filling our kids up with poison. Sure, it would suck to have your child get measles, but I'd take that over autism any day.
I'm a man who discovered the wheel, and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. A brain a third the size of ours. It's science.
Who says autism is not declining? Who says cancer is not growing? Eat your drive thru and be sure to feed it to your child, don't forget to clean your carpets, have Terminix come over and treat the house, then go to the Dr. who has the best interest of your child at heart (while Mr. Pharmaceutical dude is in his/her back office serving him lunch and taking him to the golf course on Wednesday to sell his new pill for your baby)and pump your baby with 3-4 shots at once, and here's your prescription before you go, and sign this form before I vaccinate your child, so, it will be the parents fault if injury occurs. How many releases have you signed before receiving a shot? Then come home and be sure to put your baby on the floor to play! I don't need a scientific link between vaccines and autism. I have a gut, a mother's gut, I can lift small cars off a child if I have to. That is a strong instinct. I don't need 8 years at a medical school to get some common sense. Follow your instincts, follow your gut, you will be healthier for it.
Study up on your case law. The first case has settled for vaccine related injury on a child. Pro child. Vaccinate wisely and know your risks. Same as you would their sitter or who they play with.
Re: Sarah – I'm a man who discovered the wheel, and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. A brain a third the size of ours. It's science.
Re: Me – completely true. the only person i know who hasnt had any shots (!!) gets everything that goes around. think about it. going overseas to say africa or asia, theres a whole bunch of things that are easily picked up if u havent been vaccinated. be wise and get the shots for preventable illnesses!!! its dumb to get sick and die of something that u could have been easily vaccinated for. Austism? since when? people have been being vaccinated for years and been fine so dont believe everything you hear people. show some common sense and discernment.
There is NO proof what so ever that vaccines cause autism. Not to mention the fact that since this big trend of not vaccinating has started, autism rates have continued to climb.
I mean, the parents who blame vaccines are just looking for something to direct their anger and frustration towards.
I mean, Amanda is right on this one, but she shouldn't have said it in such a way. I mean, I have doctors as parents so I've been well versed on this issue, so I would say those who think autism is caused by vaccines are wrong, but I wouldn't insult them for it.
My friend thinks (or did I haven't asked her if she has changed her mind) that vaccinations cause autism. So she has not allowed any for her three kids ever. Guess what? her son (her second child) has autism. I am not saying that means that vaccinations can't cause autism, but it does prove you can not fool proof prevent autism by not having your children get vaccinations.
Re: Ignor –
Where'd you get this? I'll bet you, like a vast amjority of anti-vaccinators postinghere don't have kids. Did you jsut pull this number out of your butt? I have three kids, they all get vaccinated when they need to, adn NONE of them has had 36 shots in the first 2 years. Maybe we should check you for autism.
WTF!!!
You don't know Jack, bitch! He's my son and he has Autism thanks to your sacred vaccination.
Oh please feel free to name call you dumb fucked up big ole hangin' piece a shit scum fuck. I love it when ignorant fucks such as yourself make asses of themselves. By the way go eat at McDonald's shit for brains!!!
SHE'S A FUCKING IDIOT! YES, LET'S TAKE AN INFANT WHO HAS NO IMMUNE SYSTEM DEVELOPED YET AND INJECT THEM WITH THOUSANDS OF BACTERIAS AND VIRUSES, AND HOPE THEY JUST TURN OUT OKAY! THAT'S SMART! AND BETTER YET, IF WE DON'T AGREE, LET'S CRITICIZE OTHER PEOPLE FOR, WELL, JUST NOT AGREEING WITH IDIOTIC PEOPLE LIKE AMANDA PEET WHO SHOULD LEARN TO STOP TALKING OUT OF THEIR ASS WITHOUT KNOWING ENOUGH INFORMATION. JENNY MCCARTHY IS A HERO, AND AN INSPIRATION AND AMANDA PEET SHOULD SHUT HER STUPID MOUTH!
Re: Ty –
Anyone ever notice that Jenny claims her son is "recovering" from autism? I think the real issue is the definition of autism– it is such a blanket term for such a varied group of disabilities. I don't know… all the kids I grew up with who were special (we didn't have autism way back then, you know)… none of them ever OUTGREW it, or were talked out of it… I seriously have doubts Jenny's kid is even autistic if he's gettin' over it!
Ever hear of someone recovering from a stroke. Accident victims recovering from a brain injury. They learn to walk and talk again. Creating new pathways for the brain to function. Same thing with Autism. Repairing the brain, making/training it to use different pathways. Diet, therapy, supplements are all positive ways to improve your Autistic child, and have shown to have great success over time. They are never fully cured, but can have a great quality of life, if you don't give up. That is what Jenny McCarthy means by cured….
Re: Miche – you are a complete idiot. What is wrong with your mentality? Go conjure up a real thought.
Re: Snitz – Thank you for having a brain. If you believe that vaccinating children no matter what is completly safe, then at least read something on www.909shot.com. Become somewhat educated. Or do the world a favor and never breed again, do research or something. You can't just claim that vaccinations have no harmful affects just to make yourself feel better about poisoning your children.
Finally something that gives me a real reason to hate her besides her bushy ass eyebrows!
Re: DJ –
Sorry I didn't know diet had that much significance on repairing a person's brain pathways. Sorry, but I believe it's a bunch of bunk. THERAPY I can see and mental stimuli, but diet alone? I dont think so.
It's on thing incurring trauma to the brain during a lifetime, quite another to be BORN WITH IT! Try "repairing pathways" with a person who was really born retarded. I haven't heard of it.
Actually, there have been studies on the "link" between vaccines and autism. The results do not show anything statistically significant. There is quite simply no proof - only anecdotal claims by parents. There ARE statistically significant links shown between measles and death, and between pregnant women contracting rubella and the fetuses being harmed by it. Now, Jenny McCarthy's got my sympathy that her kid's autistic, but I'll leave my medical decisions to those trained to make them who follow the research, not someone who's main qualification is Former VeeJay and the award for having made more stupid faces in photographs than any other human on the planet.
re: CHEWI
You haven't heard "eat your vegetables?" Sugar makes you hyper, or coffee wakes you up. How about, "You are what you eat." Food has everything to do with your health, basic nutrition. Remember health class.
I believe I listed a few positive ways to be treated, not just diet alone.
People are born gay, retarded, sick, down syndrome, you name it. Why not pre-disposed to any other disease? Mother's are warned not to "take this" or "eat that" during pregnancy it may cause birth defects. Your argument is mute and disappointing.
You can't cure gay, retarded or autism or a stroke. You can surely put that person on the road to better health and quality of life. You should experience living life around someone who is ill. You sound as if you would be the person who would be silent instead of pro-active. Good for you, not for me.
Re: Sarah –
Wrong - read a science paper - no evidence linking autism and vaccinations
Lots of evidence linking NO Vaccinations to Measles, Mumps, POLIO,SMALL POX, Whoopng cough
etc.
VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN!!!!!!!
Re: DJ –
More trash from the board idiot! Sorry, i didnt know vegetables cured an ailing brain. Yes, I'd rather be associated with a nut like you!
Uh, HEALTH AND NUTRITION is a lot different than what you are talking about.. regenerating new pathways in the brain. And I'm guessing you have no studies that show more vegetables helped the "retarded" brain. Sorry you took offense to that word, but would you rather I used "mentally handicapped"? Whatever is ok in your PC fantasy world!
DJ, false hopes sound a lot better. I think I'll write a letter to Santa this coming holiday season and hope he returns all the things I want. Maybe a carrot can improve your mental illness! LOL!
Re: Ava –
I read your site 909shot.com and I approve. It needs some more whiz bang but we'll get something cooler than famous movie stars to make our message come accross the divide. There are some great insights by you old peepholes.
Way to go
Grass roots blowup / Gonna put a hot shot in yo ass
Tastes so bitter / Start to fritter
Next you beating you head / slapping you face
And if you don't know what to do, you're vanquished
But if you heed the correct advice you can beccome something more than a poster here on Perez's website. Do you think Amanda heard me? Obviously she appologized she probablly just woke up and her husband was saying something about the parasites lining up for Batman. Upon her morning drugs, the diction percolotaed in her brain and for some reason she just blabbed her word of the day on to all us morlocks. Ignorance is at fault here. Facts are a dime a dozen. Personally I am for the solution. Stay tuned.
Or should I say QUACK who believes there is improvement for a GENETIC NEUROLOGICAL ABNORMALITY that one is born with when eating a few extra vegetables after the fact!
Re: DJ –
THATS WHAT SHE MEANS BY "CURED"………………………………….. SORRY BUT NOBODY IS CURED FROM AUTISM. I WONDER IF THAT BRAT EVEN WAS AFFLICTED WITH IT!
Look, they lump everyone with mental deficiencies into the "autism" category these days. What these kids actually have vary from kid to kid and I wouldn't actually conclude all of these incidences as the same identical problem. That's why 25% have improvement and 75% don't. Different sets of problems with the brain altogether. 3 out of 4 kids who follow Mccarthy's advice will have no luck. And then the rest of the populous that just had kids might not even vaccinate altogether meaning that their children will be susceptible to serious disease and some are life-threatening. Condoning anything this woman says is irresponsible!
let face it …it's all about the money…the pharmacuticle companies are making bank….they don't care if a few people get hurt by shots….most people are fine….oh yeah don't forget…ADHD…asburgers..ADD…bipolar…alzheimers….terretz…Autsim…leakgut…if shots are so great…how come you can still get the chicken pots…even if you had the shots (mild cases) SHOTS DON'T GUARENTEE IMMUNITY. Can a doctor say that….no way. Better immunization schedules…safer shots…if you have your shots…and they work…why are you afraid to be around someone who doesn't have their shots…duh. You are protected…right. or so you think you are…..
if you have all your shots…why are you afaird to be around someone who doesn't. You are protected…right or wrong? Don't your shots work? DUH shots do not guarentee immunity. kids are still getting chicken pots (mild cases) and they have been given the varcilla vacination? so what's up with that.
Holy crap, she's vicious. I had no idea.