Menace to Society?
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Cops in Flint, Michigan are literally playing fashion police!
According to reports, the city's new chief of police has ordered his officers to start arresting saggers*.
Saggers could face jail time and hefty fines for a fad he calls "immoral self expression."
He later told a local paper the style could give officers probable cause to search saggers.
WTF?
Flint is in America!
We still have some freedom of expression rights in our country, don't we?
Michael Moore, what's your hometown thinking?
No worries…the ACLU is on the case. They've threatened to take the Flint cops to court if they insist on citing peeps for sagging.
*Saggers = fans of wearing their pants low - very low!
Update: A reader points out something very interesting.
"Although I'm not a fan of the baggy jeans look, most folks don't know that the whole look didn't start as a fashion statement, but because poor kids always had to wear hand me down clothing …so in the hood, everyone was wearing pants, shirts and shoes that were way too big for them. The look is a nod to that …and when folks challenge that, it's often because they don't understand the context."
Update #2: Inneresting.
Another reader offers a different take on things.
"On the posting about the new saggy pants citations in Mich you have an update from a reader who points out the tradition stems from poor kids wearing hand-me-down clothes. This is not true. It stems from the fact that when in prison, prisoners aren't allowed to have belts, so their prison issue pants often sag very low. The style of saggy pants was brought to the street as a show of toughness associated with the prison/gangster lifestyle. And the citations aren't really about freedom of expression. One of the main reasons saggy pants are being banned in many places (including in many schools) is because it makes it easier to conceal guns."
Update #3:
You guys are so smart!
Another reader points out an interesting hypothesis, " just an update, they are STRUGGLING in michigan and they are trying to find some way to make money, especiallllly oakland county. that's why they're enforcing this."
[Image via WENN.]
Actually in Sacramento where im from, the rocker kids wear sagging tight skinny leg jeans under their butts all the time so its not just a black thing. In any case arresting people for their clothing is obscene…
HAHAHA. I think it's funny that people have to try and justify everything. I'm pretty sure the people sagging these days are not wearing "hand-me-downs." Nice try though. They do it to make a statement and look like fucking idiots. There is really no reason to look like you are about to rob a bank or jump me in the alley. Instead, go to a tailor and get your pants to fit. OR MAYBE, buy your own size?! What a concept.
Re: karle –
They're not going to place them in jail… they're going to search them. If they find anything on them, THEN they're going to place them in jail. It's a great way to get people to start wearing their pants, and and even BETTER way to get people to think twice before carrying anything illegal on their persons.
Anyone who thinks this law is about "fashion" needs to think twice. This law is about safety, and it's a great idea.
Um, my brother is a correctional officer, and he told me, wearing your pants down very low is a signal that you are open to being someone's bitch. So, "saggers" are copying that. It's a stupid trend, and they all need to grow up. I've seen them down over their ass and having to hold onto their silly huge belt buckles to even walk. I applaud Flint Michigan for doing something about this idiotic trend.
I call bullshit on that *update you posted, Perez. It is a quaint notion that sagging started because peeps didn't have clothes that fit, but actually, i believe, it was a fashion trend that started in prisons, where they aren't allowed to wear belts, so everyone was "sagging." Then they took that to the streets, just like they do with their race wars when they get out. It's thuggish wannabe bullshit, and if the poor cops in broken, dilapidated Flint think that is a good starting point for taking their city back, they're probably right. The ACLU should take some advice from Soulja Boy's recent comeback to Ice-T… if you don't like it, get out there and start a day-program for kids, or a summer camp for teens and SHOW them a better way. Otherwise, you're all talk, and nobody's asking for your opinion.
Actually, sagging didn't start as hand-me-downs that were "too big" … they started with the gang-bangers so they could hide weapons, drugs, etc. (kind of hard to conceal a shotgun down the leg of a pair of levi's).
I live in Shreveport, Louisiana…this is not a new act…police have been citing people for wearing saggy pants since January. Also they must wear a belt and only a certain number of inches can the pants be under the hips!
WTF. Are these people bored or just plain crazy? What is up with Flint Michigan? I personally would not wear saggy, baggy or whatever it is called pants. Who am I to tell you what you can and cannot do with your style. This is America people. There are worst things in this country to worry about like say the price of gas or food. and worst of all the senseless War. LIGHTIN THE FUCK UP.
Nobody wants to see other people's underware! That fad is so 90's, let it go!!!!!!! It's NOT a good look!!!! I wish MORE places would do what Much has done. I can't stand it, adn I don't want my little boy thinking it's cool. Cuz it's not. It's stupid and ugly.
1. Michael Moore is from Davison, Michigan and now lives in a multi-million dollar apartment in NYC. He does nothing to help with the deplorable condition Flint has been left in as a result of deindustrialization.
2. I'm from Flint and now work at an inner-city school in Memphis. Baggy pants did not begin with hand me downs it began in California prisons. How low you wore (wear) your pants was (is) an indication of how far you would go sexually. My students all have belts, but still choose to wear their pants around their knees. Maybe more people would have jobs in Flint if they learned to dress professionally. I agree that legal action is a little extreme, but if you dress like a thug you'll always be a thug…..and as much as our society would like to glamorize thuggery, it's only middle class white kids who are actually buying the music these criminals (DMX, Little Wayne, T.I. their records speak volumes) produce…..until we stop making excuses for all people we will never progress. It's no one's right to have their ass hanging out….regardless of race, religion, socioeconomic status. I cannot tell you how much time is wasted reinvesting students in what is actually important and imperative after a young man's pants fall down and they expose themselves….it happens every day, every hour……we have to take responsibility……if we don't all contribute positively to society in some way we're going to be in even more serious trouble. You think the economy is bad now……just wait until everyone is dependent.
Re: Your –
I feel your pain. (See #58)
I'm not even in an area like Detroit where this would be expected. As a woman, I found it disrespectful to be forced to look at some "man's" (little boy, actually) underwear. The kid couldn't even move around effectively. Fortunately, I had a school uniform/dress code on my side.
So i just read all the posts and the second update is halfway true. I work at a residential treatment facility for ajudicated youth, and I have lived in Michigan my entire life. The habit of sagging your pants did originate in the jails. The juvenile judges here are quick to point out that sagging your pants in the clink means you are willing to be a bottom. if you know what i mean. but sagging in jail definitely meant you were down for a lil man lovin
PEREZ! I heard that the sag look came from prison where people were showing 'availability' n such
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yes. well, can we cite people for spitting in public, first? and then, rather than making them pull up their silly pants, can we require them to carry a cushion or something, so they have that between the underpants and public seats (benches, trains, et cetera)? those in short skirts should have to do this, too. and if there's a fine, please fine girls showing off their underwear, too. i'd be sad to see sagging stop, myself. such comedy. the waddling walk, and good gravy, the RUNNING. hilarious! i admit, i had to wear PLENTY of hand-me-downs that were way too big, but never once did i belt a pair of pants beneath my rear.
Re: FUKKu – Why do you assume its all young black men?? There are plenty of white morons that do it too!
I have also heard sagging started in prison to communicate to fellow inmates that one was "available"
And what about those slutty girls that walk around with their tits haning out or their jeans so low that you can see their thong hanging out.. So what if I want to wear shorts under my jeans and sag them so that my shorts show through.. Its not indecent exposure. Its just freedom of what I want to wear. Apparently this site and America still lives in high school where we have to regulate what everyone else wants to wear. who really give a fuck
thanks to update #2 for bringing it back to 2008….lets all be very realistic about this issue…I come from the lower class and received hand me downs from an older sibling and I was never sagging my pants and wearing shirts 5 times bigger than my frame…this style is SOLD in department stores this way…you can not tell me these people are not getting any money from anywhere and actually took a shirt and pants from a big fat guy and is now wearing it around…what is the rapper's excuse shown in the picture above? rediculous - it is to concele weapons, drugs, etc. GET REAL!!!!! I find it funny that people complain about the violence, drugs, etc. and yet when someone cracks down on some of the roots of the problem everyone starts talking about violations of the constitution and lawsuits….you are either part of the solution or part of the problem…WAKE UP!!!!!!!
I find it quite sad this is even a news item. Saggers???? OMG… and just for the record, I despise looking at the disgusting ass crack of some loser who can't even think enough of themselves to be wearing such a moronic symbol of anything!! Whether it be from a prison mission or some handmedowns culture.. who gives a shit! IT'S RETARDED LOOKING number one and number two, the only thing that is getting expressed is that YOUR A FOLLOWER OF ALL THINGS STUPID!!! They should just fine them, no need to waste any more of the tax payers money than that…
Thank you for putting up the second "update," but there is still more corrections. Prisoners are not given large pants on purpose — would they really want them to sag so they could hide things? But it is true they cannot have belts. Most of the pants are pretty neutral in a way where they should fit if you are in a certain weight range, it just happens that when issued SOME not all will eventually get their hands on the bigger clothing to conceal things. I think everyone is making huge stereotypes of prisoners. This information I got from my sociology class about urban trends. Others on the other hand I think need to work on citing their sources. I can get you the name of my book if you would like. But I think putting up "updates" of "facts" people apparently know is naive on your part.
I am sure that all the people commenting about the origination of baggy pants have never, ever, stepped foot in "the hood" and have no idea what they are talking about. Ask a real thug and see what he says…
I thought "the sag" started within the skating community. My skater friends wore huge pants so they could supposedly maneuver better in them rather than having resort to uncool sweatpants, etc. (This in in the days before it was cool to wear athletic training gear as regular attire). Then, a year or so later, everybody's pants were sagging.
I live in Flint, Mi. Show your boobs is illegal why not showing asses…
Still freedom of expression I support.
Re: karle – Yeah, stupider.
look, who cares the origin of this trend? its stupid and unattractive.
one a secondary note, women would be charged with indecent exposure if they were wearing pants that low, so this "saggies" law is really just making men have to deal with the same stupid bullshit women deal with.
personally, i think it makes you look like a freak, but it shouldn't be illegal, come on.
The trend actuallty stems from prisoners who were willing to give up the goods. They would were their pants saggy as an indication that they were either homosexual or bisexual (at least while locked up). There was actually a documentary about prison life, where an old timer talks about how he loves that the young men sag there pants so often now and if he wants there booty he will get it. You will find that alot of young men who know this, refuse to sag there pants. Young kids are so misinformed. Not to put down homosexuals, but if some of these kids knew where it really originated, they might not do it.
I believe to each his own! let them wear whatever they want!!!!!
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good.
i live near flint, and all i have to say is; no one wants to see that shit.
we get it, you're a thug, but some people would rather not see your shit-stained underwear.
"… most folks don't know that the whole look didn't start as a fashion statement, but because poor kids always had to wear hand me down clothing …. The look is a nod to that …and when folks challenge that, it's often because they don't understand the context."
This is complete rubbish, no doubt written by some white suburban kid who thinks he is championing the cause of blacks. Most of you are too young to remember that the baggy pants look was IMMEDIATELY preceded in urban areas by tight, skinny, creased jeans (see footage from early RUN DMC). The baggy look was nothing more than an abrupt change that allowed white retailers to reinvent its market (EXACTLY the same as the planned obsolescence in sales of cars, electronics, etc.). Urban Blacks spend an inordinate amount of their income on clothes, and Black youth are particularly susceptible to brainlessly following trends (remember things like the 8-ball jackets that blanketed black neighborhoods in the 80's and 90's?). As for freedom of expression, the right of such expression is tempered by laws against indecent exposure. Having to look at a grown man's ass hanging out of his pants surely qualifies as such.
Re: Krist –
so if you sag you must be a convict huh? you're just as bad as those cops. sagging pants does not have a direct correlation to crime. Its bad ass people that commit crimes, not pants.
Personally, I think there is a freedom of expression fashion statement (political tshirts), and then there is someone exposing body parts to me unnecessarily. There is sagging and there is your underwear showing. I don't choose to see someone's ass unless I go into a club and pay for it.
Actually, I heard the style has its origins in jail. When processed, prisoners' belts are confiscated- hence the sagging pants… It's a nod to convicts.
all i see is thug this and thug that, but dont yall see these lil white boyz saggin there abercrombie's and hollister jeans? I bet they wont get searched. if this shit was fair across the board that would be different but i think it is just another way to violate minority rights and keep the prison population filled with minorities.
giv'em the chair!
I have seen this in NYC for awhile and it seems to becoming a bigger trend. It is absolutely disgusting. I have recently spotted a couple gay guys (black) doing this and it makes sense - they want people to have quick access to their asses just like girls who wear short skirts want guys or have quick access to their asses. But why would a bunch of straight ghetto boys want people staring at their asses through a thin layer of worn cotton? I am ready to puke, it is indecent exposure. Yes people have been wearing there pants low for decades now and I thought it was lame when people showed their Calvin waist bands, but the new trend is completely obscene. As people in our society have been getting fatter with each generation, hand me downs would tend to be tight not sag. These fucking losers will never get a job. Plus I can only imagine the smell.
Uh no that reader has it wrong and I’m guessing they are white. That style came from when black men were in prison and didn’t have belts so their clothing would sag and when they came out they kept with the style. All the laws now about arresting people for sagging pants is absolutely and utterly ridiculous and another attempt to keep black men locked up as this is a prominent fashion statement in the African American community! Why not arrest the punk losers who wear these tight ass skinny jeans? When we can see their nuts and all that? How about that? Oh it will never happen because it’s a white man thing! White people are the devils! White people should be more concerned with why pedophiles are being released back into the community and all they have to do is register as a sex offender! Like being registered will stop them from doing something to another child instead of worrying about how black boys wear their clothes! This is totally stupid! What next? Arresting men for dressing like women? Oh no because then all those politicians will be arrested!
Re: Katie –
ever heard of illegal search and seizure?
Perez, I am a mother of three girls, ages 5,7,9. It is unfortunate that people do not realize that they are trully exposing themselves. It is unfair that my daughters have to look at a mans underwears because it is "current fasshion". underweras are private and should not be exposed. I am sure all that is asked is that they not expose their underpants. Let them sag just keep your underwear covered. C'mon when you have children of your own I am sure you wouldn't want then walking down the street seeing grown up and teenage underwaer, ITS JUST INNAPROPRIATE.
If you have a nice ass and want to show it off, go get yourself a nice pair of jeans that excentuate your ass. Don't buy a pair 2 sizes to big so they hang off your ass… GO BUY YOURSELF A BELT GANGSTER!
As a resident of MI I grew up in Saginaw and I think this is just another sign that America is not the land of the free. unless you have money. This seems to be just another way of profiling, I cant believe that in AMERICA you can be searched by the police just for your garb!! I personally think girls walking around showing off their MUFFIN tops is revolting maybe we showed start citing them for that and searching theses people oh wait I think most of them would white so well there goes that. I beleive our generation is one of the laziest, we countinually let old rich white men tell us what we can and can't do. Look at the 60's and how young america came together and made a change maybe we need to look back and learn and maybe we can take back our rights that are fastly wasting away in outragous laws!! We need to get off ours ass' and do something many people gave there lives for what they belived in. Thanks you PERZ for putting up that article some people have no idea what is going on in this 'free" society!!!!! KUDO to you.
dude, the guys in prison who wore saggy pants did it because it meant they were someones "bitch" or whatever the correct termonology is. Every1 knows not to mess with them, easy access, yada yada. obvi you can claim lots of different places that the sag stemmed from, but prison is the main origin. It should be banned, not bc of other people being offended or anything, but only because I doubt those dudes in prison wanna relive that expierence whenever they see someone saggin'.
Re: JustSayin – FU! Your are saying NOTHING!
Well I live in ny and I wish they would arrest the "saggers" here. I can't express how tired I am of seeing guys jiggly butt cheeks showing through their boxers. They either need to pick up their pants or wear longer shirts. If they want to pay homage to anything, they should try doing something positive with themselves. They should also arrest female saggers who apparently don't know what a BRA is!
In regards to the comment made about the sagging pants in Prison, this isnt true. Inmates in prison are not allowed to have their pants sagging. If they are caught with sagging pants they recieve a citation which can increase thier sentance or cause them to have privleges taken away. Prisioners are allowed to have belts and in some jails they are inforced all the time.
Re: Cindy – FU! You are full of Shit!
PLEASE BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO CONCEAL GUNS? BLACK KIDS DON'T SHOOT UP SCHOOLS THAT'S WHAT YOU CRACKERS DO! PLEASE STOP DOING UPDATES FROM WHITE PEOPLE WHO GREW UP GOOD! ALL THE DADDIES LITTLE GIRLS AND BOYS OUT THERE! AND DON'T DISRESPECT THE STYLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT! YOU FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE THINK FRIGGING VICTORIA BECKHAM IS A FASHION GOD AND HAVE THE NERVE TO DISRESPECT WHAT BLACK PEOPLE WEAR? HA! I think white boys in fucking sandal and skinny jeans is offensive and gross!
Re: nope – FU racist!
they have that same thing in some parts of atlanta. im not a fan of the sagging pants, i think its just stupid. but, people should be allowed to wear what they want.
Re: robbi – BITCH YO MAMA SMELL LIKE OLD ASS JUICE AND WARTS
DONT BE DOWING FLINT HOE
BTW Perez, you're wrong Sagging pants comes from jail house style, where people aren't allowed to wear belts. It's not about being poor, it's about being a thug. Wear your pants on your ass, where they belong. It looks stupid, plays into a thug mentality and really…nobody wants to see your butt.
well, once you think about it new jersey actually made it a law that you couldn't sag your pants. honestly, i think more states should consider that. if you're constantly walking aroundm trying to keep your pants up, you will start walking oddly even with normal pants on. i live in michigan and ive seen it. plus, why do you need to expose your ass? no one wants to see it.
Don't the Flint police have better things to do than harrass people sagging their pants? What about stopping assaults, burglaries, rapes, and murders.
Re: SMH! – I agree!
I think it's awesome the cops are doing this. I grew up in Flint, MI and I can honestly say that I think these kinds of enforcements will only help a city that has fallen to crimes and eratic behavior.
I am from Flint and the Police need to worry about all the kids buying crack, the dealers selling the shit, the curupt city officials and police department, the outbreak of crime, all of which have NOTHING to do with sagging pants. Come on Flint lets get right.
'saggers' are idiots and look like bigger idiots.
Saggers' fashion (if you wanna call it that) started in jails, the street culture adopted it and made it their own. Why on god's earth would anyone like to look like they're wearing their dad's pants… And it doesn't stop there, I've been to the gym working out and seen guys wearing their shorts and sweats in the same manner…. WTF! Nothing fucks up a work out like some dude wearing his stuff all falling off and underwear all hanging out to break up your concentration…
I applaude them for such a law!
well for all of those people posting long comments about the "roots of the sagging pants," why can't we get some input from some people who actually wear their clothes this way? How can you say it "started this way" or did not start a certain way, if you weren't even one of the people who began the "fad?" I'm a girl, so I don't wear my pants this way, but I am sure there are numerous different reasons for this style, so why not let it be instead of making exact statements on the origins of it, DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE, because somewhere out there people are judging you too!
Re: MOM – I agree totally with MOM!
"Hey thiscould go very wrong.
We moved to SW and I was called saying My Son 4th grader was going to be kicked out of school for "sagging". They said they were sorry after I told Them to look-He HAD a belt on and They were hand Me down pants. I see BIG problems with this Law! "
As a further update on the sagging pants issue, that is why a lot of people get shot by the police. While running away they have to hold their pants up, and police then say they saw the person reaching in their waistband.
i always wondered why these geniuses wore saggy jeans instead of track suits when they're always running from the police. until now, catching thugs on foot was easier than clubbing baby seals since it's hard to run with your drawers around your ankles. i think the cops shot themselves in the foot (no pun intended), since now they've given the thugs the option to become more aerodynamic and therefore harder to catch.
update numero 2 is correct! it did start in prison. learned it in one of my communications lectures!
update #2 is right.
Finally the world is starting to see that this isnt cool.. I honestly get SO mad when i see this, I have to tell ppl they look so stupid when they cant walk becasue their pants are so low..hopefully they will do this in canada hahahahah
If you can search and arrest "saggers" for wearing low pants then the same should be done to crazy ho's who wear slutty outfits in public, why isn't that "immoral self expression" as well?
I am born in raised in Flint Township, just outside the Flint City limits… and knowing the area well… I can tell you that this law really won't be enforced much as someone else also said. The Flint Police suck, crime is terrible in the city. They need to focus on bigger things. I do think a fine would be a good idea to make some money for the city.
Re: KIM –
damn good point!
I majored (and graduated with a degree) in Criminal Justice. In SEVERAL of my books and in most of my classes that I took in which class, race, and gender were topics, it was given as fact that the sagging pants trend may not have started this way, but is popularly utilized among inmates as a signal that they are "available" for sexual relations. And this trend was among all races of males. I live in a prison-flooded state which meant that oftentimes our classes would be fortunate enough to have criminal law professionals visit.
I also heard this little fun fact a few times from some of these speakers as well. So for at least in my area, it is kind of a disgrace to wear your jeans with your underwear hanging out, because many think it has sexual connotations. Interesting?
# 2 is the real deal !!!!
In jail, no belts !!!!
I think it's a great law, I dont want to look at people ass's. Some asses are best covered. Just gross
Update # 2 is 100% right!
SPEAKING OF BLACKS. DID YOU GUYS SEE WENDY WILLIAMS TALK SHOW THIS MORNING? Omarosa vs wendy williams .Omarosa NEEDS TO be LYNCHED.
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. This is just another excuse by African Americans to say "hey, look at me". It's lazy. Pure and simple. Even Ellie Mae Clampett and Jethro could afford rope. Pull them up or stay home or FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.
i have lived in the Flint area my whole life…..even better is that we just laid off aprox. 46 police officers and are having to close the city jail due to financial issues. seeing as how Flint was voted the 3rd most dangerous city in the nation its nice to know that our law enforcement will be focusing on sagging pants rather than all the shootings and thefts that plague our city!
and actually Michael Moore isn't from flint, he is from Davison MI
Re: MOM – Buy a bigger belt MOM and teach your child to respect himself and those around him. I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIS UNDERWEAR OR HIS A$$
I am glad they are getting the thugs off the street! Just one less we need to worry about!
I've been told the look started in prison, as means for advertisement, to fellow inmates that you were "available". Although, I find it to be hypocrisy at its finest. Straight men find prison homosexuality to be an oxymoron, right? So, advertising your goods by sagging your pants is a masculine way, an unspoken way of saying you like your hotdog between the buns is acceptable as long as you aren't otherwise visually (stereotypically-snap-yo-fingers gay)?? Pretty asinine, to say the least. You are willing to beat and degrade a gay man because he is not masculine enough; however, you sag your pants and are thus admitting yourself to be homosexual . . .WTF?? You can't be gay and straight you pants sagging pricks BUT you can be gay and masculine!
Besides, all of the gay men I know don't sag their pants (have impeccable taste & hygiene, by the way); fit no stereotype of being gay, and have NEVER been to prison. They fit no title . . .they are attractive, intelligent, and highly successful men who (unfortunately, and to my chagrin) love other men. So since when did accusations of being attractive, intelligent, tidy, and highly successful (most gay men) become a "put down"??
Flipping Idiots! Go sag your pants . . . closet freaks!
Absolute BS. This does not stem from poor kids hand me downs. This "fashion trend" comes from prison, where wearing your pants 'down and low' is a signal that you are a 'bottom' and looking for a 'top'. Rappers have for years tried to justify this look as a trend from the streets. take it from someone who knows where this comes from. do some research, ask an inmate. this is a from prison and nowhere else. The hip hop and rap communities never realized how stupid they were to anyone who knows where this came from. face it folks, to anyone who knows, pants on the "low down", and yes that is where the phrase comes from too, is a sign your a bottom boi looking for a top!
okay i am not a fan of the sag myself. I am actually really truned off by it. But in defense of the saggers, how in the hell do the police and the lawmakers in Flint Michigan plan to prove that sagging your jeans is probably casue for searching the sagger. Watch an see the shit they find that gets thrown out of court at the Appellate Division.
P.S. And for the racists, WHITE BOYS DO THE SAME THING
I run stoplights in Flint because it is not a safe place…
there both wrong people started in jail to show they were taken meaning they were some guys girlfriend but im not calling anyone gay who does it now its obviously transformed into a hiphop culture thing not having anything to do with where it came from
We have this law near my home town, Riviera Beach, FL. I believe its very offensive that they have their underwear showing that much, sometimes its their entire ass showing. Also, think of women who do not wear bras and you can clearly see thier ta-tas, shouldn't they also receive a ticket? This law opens up too many other issues that they can't possibly outline.
ps- Perez rocks, go on with your sexy self
THAT IS THE DUMBEST SHIT I HAVE EVER HEARD. WHAT A BIASED RACIST LAW. IT'S STYLE FUCKTARDS NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENCE!
actually its not a nod to being poor and having to wear handmedowns its a nod to prison life. wearing saggy pants with your ass showing is what inmates did to let others know they were intrested or aka wanting to take it in the butt soo what is this really saying about our youth in america once again uneducated
flint is in genesee county not oakland county.
Yes, this is "The Land of the Free", but you also have to have RULES. People can't just walk around naked, and it irks me when I see these idiots literally holding their pants up. My young daughters do not need to see men's underwear. It's disgusting and they look ridiculous. Not to mention, the whole trend comes from prison and it being a "signal" that they are willing to be someone's "friend". F*cking idiots. Have some repsect for yourselves and PULL YOUR PANTS UP!!!!
All I have to say, is if they are banning sagging pants because of the ease to which one can conceal a gun, then go ahead and ban overalls too, heck ban evening gowns, ban robes, ban pajamas. WTF is wrong with Flint, prison city!
Zeee - ex -y.
Nothing says zexy like a dude slingin' a cap wrong-sided on his head, a little'sposin thong, lil skin and prison pants.
Still discombobulated from is ecstacy in the pen . . . or just dreamin' ’bout what could have been.
Love the new law! I'm sick of seeing people's butt-cracks!!!!
Hate to say it, but the Cop is 100% correct….I did a project that examined how urban wear and dress became the way it is. Alll because of jail…
Saggy pants are so stupid. Idiotic and moronic.
What is it about these kids thinking anything related to prison stuff is "cool"?
What the heck do these boogers know? This is what happens when kids don't grow up having a decent parent as their role model. They have no one else to look up to. I think there should be a mandatory field trip to a prison for these middle school kids and let's see if they still want to let their pants sag after that!
Flint is NOT in Oakland county. Good try though.
Honestly, I could care less about the origins of the falling-down pants. However, I am sick to death of this look … can we please adopt a new "I'm urban cool" fashion? For years now, I've seen enough ass-cracks and/or underwear to last a lifetime. It's old, stale and annoying.
Re: ~Me M – Find me one picture of a white guy looking like the idiot posted in this picture. They guys that do this are of African American or Puerto Rican desent 99.9% of the time.
1) This is ridiculous how is it IMMORAL??
2) "One of the main reasons saggy pants are being banned in many places (including in many schools) is because it makes it easier to conceal guns."
My friends school banned hoodies because you can conceal drugs in them.
People are ridiculous. End of story.
This look is so ridiculous. Go ahead and let your pants sag if you want to look like an uneducated moron.
Ok look up Fleece on you tube. He is a long time prisoner that they filmed for the show Locked Up. He talks about "getting booty" in prison and how the younger males look good with their saggy pants and that makes the older males want to get "booty" from them and they will get it.
I say keep your pants up!