Barack Obama vs. John McCain: Round 1
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Did you watch?
Thoughts?
Here's the Obama campaign's official statement about their candidate's performance:
"This was a clear victory for Barack Obama on John McCain's home turf. Senator McCain offered nothing but more of the same failed Bush policies, and Barack Obama made a forceful case for change in our economy and our foreign policy. While Senator McCain wants to keep giving huge tax cuts to corporations and said nothing about the challenges Americans are facing in their daily lives, Barack Obama will be a fierce advocate for tax cuts for the middle class, affordable health care, and a new energy economy that creates millions of jobs. While foreign policy was supposed to be John McCain's top issue, Barack Obama commanded that part of the debate with a clear call to responsibly end a misguided war in Iraq so that we can finish the fight against al Qaeda in Afghanistan. John McCain needed a game-changer tonight, and by any measure he didn't get it." Obama-Biden campaign manager David Plouffe.
And the McCain campaign's take:
"There was one man who was presidential tonight, that man was John McCain. There was another who was political, that was Barack Obama. John McCain won this debate and controlled the dialogue throughout, whether it was the economy, taxes, spending, Iraq or Iran. There was a leadership gap, a judgment gap, and a boldness gap on display tonight, a fact Barack Obama acknowledged when he said John McCain was right at least five times. Tonight's debate showed John McCain in command of the issues and presenting a clear agenda for America's future." –Jill Hazelbaker, McCain-Palin 2008 Communications Director
[Image via AP.]
Obama sure has gotten gray. He looks all worn out. If he does get elected after the first year I bet he will be completely gray because he cannot handle the job of President. He is having a tough time handing the job of Senator.
Re: Smirks –
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"RED DAWN" IS FIERCE–
AND RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, THE "RED CORNER!"
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Truer words you have never spoken. I don't doubt it. If that happens… vive la resistance! lol.
Re: Whatupperez – You are correct, health is not a problem….yet.
Re: Smirks – If it makes you feel better but we all know the truth hurts…
Obama will always be a loser in my eyes
Re: Smirks – lol you are so ignorant. Snap out of that silly fear.
Re: Steink –
hahaha me tooooooo!!!! mccain just seemed so ughhh to me! every single time he was asked a question he would never just straight out answer it. he'd always start it with "obama is wrong because" WTF how childish is that? mccain just totally came through as a complete asshole
and could he have looked ANY older?! he looked like darth sidious' twin! EW
McCain could only talk profoundly when he was talking about his history in war and war and war and more war and his times in war and war. And mission accomplished caused all he got to himself was to sound so much as George Bush a president of war and since many, many many Americans blame the war for all the current economical situation, he just got himself related as another president of War. 4 more years of Bush can't be afforded in this country. Obama/Biden 2008.
Oh and all this ignoring Palin lmao.. which is going to push the red button and self destruct her own party when she start showing to the girl the dumb woman she is.
Polls and studies (including fox news) show Obama as the clear winner of the debate. Don't know what this people is trying to defend or say.
The highest point McCain got in the debate were only when he was talking about holding accountable his own damn party and the mistakes they have make. Funny.. when he talks about punishing his people he gets the higher votes? lol
And Obama got the highest vote when he said "Senator McCain you were wrong for this and that etc"
So everything is about punishing republicans, cause that got the higher votes. Well, I have an idea, let's punish them bad and let's all vote democrat this year and take control out of this party that obviously care more about their on wealth than the country and the american people.
I'd dare to say that republicans don't love this country.
Are you all really that stupid? Barack is a FUCKING IDOT! Barack even admitted 5 times that John was right! Wow..
And how many times was McCain wrong? Think about it!
And Mccain wh00ped his ass. Anyone that thinks otherwise has no idea what they are talking about.
And that bracelet Obama had on that he didn't know the name of the guy on it? His parents ASKED Obama not to wear it SEVERAL times. But Obama continues to do so against their wishes.
So much for what he thinks about the American people and their wishes. He's out for #1.
And McCain trounced him. Perez's quotes are bullshit.
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Re: sheba08 And how many times was McCain wrong? Think about it! – Not many. Obama agreed with him 9 times saying he was right.
BTW any of you that keep calling McCain McSame or BushII is showing you ignorance about recent history.
Let me do some research for you. Back in the 2004 elections the left used McCain AGAINST Bush as a shill to attack him. McCain had a book out that bashed Bush's policies. And the left took full advantage of it. "Look! I prisoner of war, a republican, saying Bush is bad! he must be!" Biden even told Kerry he should as McCain to be his vice president.
Fast foward 4 years. No policy of McCain has changed. He still doesn't like Bush, and is against a lot of his policies. Yet some dishonest people want the country to think he's just like Bush. Because all they have done the past 8 years is run on the "He's not Bush!" trail (Both Kerry and Obama do it) and they can only do it if they paint McCain = Bush. Of course they have to totally re-write history to do it, but they've done it before with the Iraq war.
Re: SmartGirl13 Are you all really that stupid? Barack is a FUCKING IDOT! Barack even admitted 5 times that John was right! Wow.. – It was more like 9-12 times. I counted 10. others counted 12. I heard a 9 too. way more than 5. That really hurt Obama.
"Barack Obama played the "me too" game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.
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Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family."
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WTF is that all about Obama? Talk about disrespecting the people of the country and their son. This is going to hurt him. Especially if Main Stream Media decides to print it. I doubt they will though. They'd have been ALL OVER IT had it been McCain.
Re: SmartGirl13 – Well document the fact, it was 9 times. And He also said McCain you were wrong or McCain you are wrong more than 9 times as well. And you know what he achieved by claiming McCain was right? first.. took the "author" of the statement from McCain and shared the statement with him cause they both agree on what it was stated. (Any smart leader knows to do that).
Second, gain empathy on those who though Obama had radical views cause he was agreeing in actual views that right wing though he didn't. So he gained more votes there, just watch the polls next week. These was stated by many many political experts after the debate.
So mKKKain never say anybody else is right cause he is more focus on his rightous mindset than on listening what everybody has to say and actually assert to what is better for us. You see how dumb that statement "he is right" can be transform from weakness to victory? mKKKain Campaign is just an insult for the intellect.
And Obama's debate claims about Kissinger was debunked. By Kissinger .
"Barack Obama's attempt to suggest that Kissinger would agree with his intention to meet personally with Iranian President Ahmadinejad"
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Asked by Kelly if he supported having a President "meet with Ahmadinejad without preconditions," Kissinger responded: "No, I don’t. I have argued that, at some point, negotiations with Iran are important. But it is my view that they should be on the working level, and that the President should not be involved until we know that we are close to an agreement, or that we know what the nature of the agreement is."
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Pwnt.
Obama's debate is falling apart. piece by piece.
Re: erhg74 So mKKKain never say anybody else is right cause he is more focus on his rightous mindset than on listening what everybody has to say and actually assert to what is better for us. You see how dumb that statement "he is right" can be transform from weakness to victory? mKKKain Campaign is just an insult for the intellect. –
actually you using the KKK in McCain is an insult to all of us here. Grow up and stop being intellectually dishonest.
If your rant was so just you'd not have to revert to such shenanigans.
BTW the MSM (Main Stream Media) Failed to correct Obama's claim of No Al-Qaeda in Iraq before invasion.
Since Friday’s presidential debate, all three major broadcast networks have highlighted one of Barack Obama’s more commanding moments when he charged that John McCain was wrong in some of his pre-Iraq war predictions, but the media have so far ignored Obama’s incorrect assertion that "there was no Al-Qaeda" presence in Iraq before America’s invasion in 2003. Before the 2003 invasion, various news sources – some American, some from other countries – were already citing the governments of various countries as they reported that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the former leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, not only was already in Iraq plotting attacks to be carried out in Europe, but that he already had an association with Osama bin Laden and had spent time in Afghanistan. But during Friday’s debate, Senator Obama asserted: "Now, keep in mind that we have four times the number of troops in Iraq, where nobody had anything to do with 9/11 before we went in, where, in fact, there was no Al-Qaeda before we went in, but we have four times more troops there than we do in Afghanistan."
Another smack down on Obama.
Re: erhg74 Second, gain empathy on those who though Obama had radical views cause he was agreeing in actual views that right wing though he didn't. So he gained more votes there, –
Another, no, no he didn't. People STILL know his voting record in the senate. Just because he doesn't want to disagree with certain things in PUBLIC with McCain, doesn't mean he garnered shizzle.
Obama wasn't his usual rock star self when put up against someone with real experience and knowledge. He falls apart, and gets defensive.
I mean the whole looking at the bracelet thing was priceless. If SNL doesn't spoof that, I def have claims of bias from them.
Re: lindsay7194 the debate made me angry. everyone think that obama did better. –
Well that was Main Stream Media's initial knee-jerk reaction of course. They had it written up before the debate I am sure.
But now a few days later, it's reversing. Holes in Obama's comments and the whole bracelet scandal
Obama on Kissinger:
Kissinger Sept. 20: Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we — we know we're dealing with authentic…"
CNN's Frank Sesno: Put at a very high level right out of the box?
Kissinger: "Initially, yes.BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE CAN MAKE CONDITIONS FOR THE OPENING OF NEGOTIATINS."
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AFTER THE DEBATE:
Kissinger: Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain.
*DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT OBAMA WAS CORRECT IN THE DEBATE.*
*DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT OBAMA WAS CORRECT IN THE DEBATE.*
ALSO, there's nothing wrong w/ agreeing with your opponent. Just because they wear a D or an R doesn't mean they disagree on EVERY SINGLE THING!!!
Re: erhg74 – #508
Yeah, instead of refuting any point I made, just call me "ignorant". Good one. You should try to obtain a refund from whatever "college" you went to because they failed you miserably.
Re: KevinK – you make some great points. You actually know what your talking about…but its still doesnt change the fact that obama out shined McCain in the debate! lol I personally thought in the beginning that either candiates were best for the job none of them except Ron Paul but hes not in the race in anymore. But Obama now gets my vote! i believe obama can make this country better, Obama has the heart and soul for his, I feel McCain just wants to go down in history for the title and respect. then again there always round 2! lol
Yeah Obama said McCain was correct now lets What he agreed w/ McCain on
Yes John " the earmark process has been abused”
Yes mcCain is right greed and excess of CEO's should NOT be awarded
McCain is right that lobbyists and interest groups r resp for earmark debacle
McCain is right biz taxe are high HOWEVER corporate loophoes allow thm to DODGE most taxes. John is right we must cut some taxes, McCain is right violence in Iraq reduced b/c of our troops John is right, presidents should be prudent in what they say McCain is right we cannot tolerate a nuclear Iran ***WOW SO PERSECUTE OBAMA FOR AGREEING ON WHAT WE ALL AGREE ON HE AGREED WITH THE ISSUE NOT HOW MCCAIN WANTS TO HANDLE IT! READ THE TRANSCRIPTS FOR YOURSELVES OR BETTER YET CTRL F the word right and read the points!****
Re: Abbyguy –
That is your opinion. Obama came off looking like an amateur next to McCain. He didn't have an answer for the things that McCain threw at him. How do you deny that you are going to raise taxes after you plan outlines it. He has made an issue of being so unlike McCain and Bush who he claims McCain is, even though they have split on several issues and the he agrees. Stretching it, there might have been some economic issues that Barack might have won or tied on, but the foreign part come on. The bracelet thing. What an idiot. And then brought Henry Kissinger in and Kissinger said Barack was wrong. What a moron. And this guy is going to lead us into Iran who wants to destroy our sister Israel, North Korea and Venezuela. The polls like the media are always going to reflect a Democrat advantage. The fact is that this election is close. Barack did not prove his case with foreign relations or that he is consistent with issues.
Re: arrora – Sorry, I disagree. There is a difference between referring to someone as the name of someone else in the same conversation (hello, Jim Leher) or stymbling over a name becaise you are so into your point and being blatantly disrespectful of yoru opponent. It showed a lack of class.
Re: LusciousLiz –
Oh Please, quit copy and pasting and try to think on your own. This crap has been circulating around the internet for DAYS, CAN'T YOU BE ORIGINAL AND THINK FOR YOURSELF??? Of course NOT, just what I have come to expect from you more gibberish.
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Oh and saying he's going to die in 4yrs…SINCE WHEN DID YOU BECOME A MEDICAL DOCTOR?? ARE YOU GOD NOW??? You don't know anything, let alone when McCain will die Miss Fortune Teller, his mother is in her upper 90's and still alive and well. You on the other hand could easily die tomorrow crossing the street, so again nothing you post ever has any substance, it's either gibberish, ignorant statements, or your fabulous copy and paste jobs!
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P.S. My dogs the cutest!
Re: SquirrelLives – See, this is why women get up i arms about teh C word. If people used it when it was REALLY called for, it wouldn't be so taboo. Obama is not a 'c***'. Shame on you for taking the conversation there, you will lose anyone who may have thought you made a valid point.Perez, keep blocking that shiz!
Re: Smirks – No Smirks, the point of it i that the Repubs who are spouting this stuff should look in their own backyard. How can you bitch about someone else 'bad connections' when there are just as bad ones on YOUR side? Hello pit, my name's kettle. My, you're looking black today….
A LIAR CAN NEVER LOOK YOU STRAIGHT IN THE FACE,THAT'S WHY MCCAIN
WOULD CUT HIS EYES WHEN HE'D SPEAK AGAINST OBAMA.WHEN OBAMA SPOKE AGAINST MCCAIN HE LOOKED DIRECTLY AT HIM.
Re: maryc – THERE DAY OF SELFISHNESS AND GREEDINESS
IS OVER.THE POWER IS NO LONGER THERE'S."POWER TO THE PEOPLE,VOTE FOR OBAMA"!
Re: Whatupperez –
"The bracelet thing. What an idiot."
It was John McCain who brought up the bracelet thing, and it made both of them look like idiots. McCain stood there jiggling the damn thing like he wasn't sure the audience could see it or not, and only brought it up to rouse up the die hard patriots and gain sympathy votes.
Yeah Obama said McCain was correct now lets SeWhat he agreed w/ McCain on
Yes John " the earmark process has been abused”
Yes mcCain is right greed and excess of CEO's should NOT be awarded
McCain is right that lobbyists and interest groups r resp for earmark debacle
McCain is right biz taxes are high HOWEVER corporate loopholes allow them to DODGE most taxes. John is right we must cut some taxes, McCain is right violence in Iraq reduced b/c of our troops. John is right, presidents should be prudent in what they say McCain is right we cannot tolerate a nuclear Iran ***WOW SO PERSECUTE OBAMA FOR AGREEING ON WHAT WE ALL AGREE ON!!! HE AGREED WITH THE ISSUE NOT HOW MCCAIN WANTS TO HANDLE IT! READ THE TRANSCRIPTS FOR YOURSELVES OR BETTER YET CTRL F the word right and read the points!****
Re: arrora – I will copy and paste whatever the hell I want you annoying little twit the BOTTOM LINE is it's the TRUTH. Also, when did I EVER say that McCain would "die in 4 years"????? Every single time you respond to me you say something even more ignorant than the time before! You need a basic reading class & some glasses…and not only is my dog cuter & smarter than your's…his owner is cuter & smarter than you too…but then again, most of the posters here are smarter than you.
Re: Chavke – #535
Lol. At least McCain knew whose bracelet he was wearing without having to look. LOL.
Re: SmartGirl13 – Wow…you have some nerve calling yourself "smartgirl" then posting something SO STUPID! It takes a man to say "yes I agree with you" and he only said "I Agree" when it was an issue he agreed on…it's really pretty simple to understand, everything else he stated "I would have to disagree" and proceeded to explain why….talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!! Did you really ask everyone else here if WE were stupid?????
after watching these two liars, i think Hillary is a safest bet
i atleast see intergrity & true conviction everytime she speaks
For those that care, the Taliban and Al Qaeda are two seperate Sunni Muslim terrorist groups and The Taliban NOW exists in Iraq B/C of the Iraq war. Again Obama is correct on this point. Obama did NOT say Al Qaeda he said TALIBAN. This is why it matters to understand the cultures and what we are addressing when discussing foregin policy.
i was all for Obama before the debate but i just realized he's really inexperience, he'll struggle in the white house. God helps him!!! Mc Cain and Palin shouldn't run the country as well
McCain: "President Eisenhower, on the night before the Normandy invasion, went into his room, and he wrote out two letters.One of them was a letter congratulating the great members of the military and allies that had conducted and succeeded in the greatest invasion in history, still to this day, and forever.And he wrote out another letter, and that was a letter of resignation from the United States Army for the failure of the landings at Normandy."
WRONG MCCAIN! Ike did say he would take responsability if D day failed But he was NOT president at the time but a general AND Ike made NO MENTION OF RESIGNATION!
Google Ike's letter written June 5th 1944,
"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based on the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."
Eisenhower
Re: Whatupperez – First of all, I said absolutely NOTHING about Obama in my post. I said in my first post that both of them are liars. You have to be one arrogant S.O.B to want to run for president. But I believe that Obama has INTEGRITY. Which it is so clear McCain/Palin do not. I swear it astounds me on a daily basis how clueless Americans can be.
Re: PalinsGirl – i was wondering the same thing - if you (liberals) think mccain was so awful, what does that make obama for agreeing with him?
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and please stop using the race card here - i don't like obama because i don't agree with what he says, i don't like his attitude or the way he speaks. it has nothing to do with the fact that he is black. why do you automatically think that when anyone doesn't like him it's because he's black?
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another reason to not like obama - his childish face making during the debate. seriously, who does that? and the interupting and talking over maccain - he couldn't even get mccain's name right - perhaps that's why mccain wouldn't look at him. obama shows no respect, so he doesn't get any.
Re: PalinsGirl – I'm sorry, that made absolutely no sense. I shouldn't be replying because your post was incomprehensible but I can't help myself! Proofread!!! That's all I'm gonna say.
Oh and why do hate black people?
Re: MINXLIVES *DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT OBAMA WAS CORRECT IN THE DEBATE. –
He wasn't correct. Kissinger said what Obama said was wrong.
Re: Abbyguy you make some great points. You actually know what your talking about…but its still doesnt change the fact that obama out shined McCain in the debate! lol" I personally thought in the beginning that either candiates were best for the job none of them except Ron Paul but hes not in the race in anymore. But Obama now gets my vote! i believe obama can make this country better, Obama has the heart and soul for his, I feel McCain just wants to go down in history for the title and respect. then again there always round 2! lol –
So you tell me I was wrong, but yet showed no proof of it like I did with my posts. Just LOL! U R WRONG!11 HAHAHA
No, no I am not wrong. If I was, you'd have been able to debunk what I said. You did not.
Re: Common Sense Why do I hate black people? –
It's a race card that Obama and their supporters are playing. If you don't vote for him it MUST be because you are racist!11
They do that so small minded people will vote for Obama in fear of being called a racist.
If their campaign was so true and just, they'd not have to revert to these shenanigans. Or the TONS of lies they made up about Palin as soon as she was announced.
Or how about Obama and Biden making fun of Palin's support for the "Bridge to Nowhere" When the BOTH voted on it TWICE themselves.
hey Kettle!
Yes Pot?
You're black!!11 Aahahha
Re: Common Sense First of all, I said absolutely NOTHING about Obama in my post. I said in my first post that both of them are liars. You have to be one arrogant S.O.B to want to run for president. But I believe that Obama has INTEGRITY. Which it is so clear McCain/Palin do not. I swear it astounds me on a daily basis how clueless Americans can be. –
No you don't HAVE to be one arrogant SOB to run for President. Though you hit it spot on with Obama. He think's he is the second coming. Worse is, MSM acts like he is. You say that Obama has Integrity. Well were was his integrity when he was wearing a bracelet of a dead soldier than he had to LOOK at to remember said soldiers name, but not only that, said parents of said soldier BEGGED oBama to STOP wearing it. And he's refused to. What kind of Integrity are we talking here? The fake kind?
Or how about how he calls McCain McSame or just like Bush, but not 4 years ago his side was using McCain AGAINST Bush. That kind of integrity?
If that's integrity, well I don't want my politician of choice to have it. :p
Or how about Obama and Biden chiding Palin for being part of the "Bridge to Nowhere" when they themselves voted for it TWICE. That kind of integrity?
Obama only thinks about #1.That's it. That's not integrity. That's being self centered.
I mean if I was wearing a soldiers bracelet for purely PR reasons (didn't even know the guy's name) and was asked to never wear it again by said soldier's family. I would do so. I surely wouldn't keep wearing it because I think it would be good for MY career.
Because this little blunder has really made Obama look like the man he really is.
Re: MINXLIVES – , and that was a letter of resignation from the United States Army for the failure of the landings at Normandy."
Note my boldings.
And as far as Fey being prettier than Palin… sorry guys, gals. That horse wont walk.
(Horse… don't you get it?, if not look at the pic again in Perez's front page of Fey)
I too was at one time attracted to Fey. Then I found out what she REALLY looked like behind all the makeup and hollywood glitz. Scary indeed.
Palin however, has a natural beauty that Fey has to work for.
If any of you don't believe me. Go look at BOTH of their senior year pictures.
Re: KevinK –
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DUH!
That's the POINT!!! Ike was NOT President during D- DAY he was a GENERAL so McCain saying he wrote a letter OF RESIGNATION IKE NEVER ONCE OFFERED TO RESIGN AND IKE WAS NOT PRESIDENT. AS Stated before GOOGLE THE LETTER BETTER YET GOOGLE BOTH!!!
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Cherry pick whatever you want, doesn't change the FACT that DURING THE DEBATE as it stands on Kissinger Obama was CORRECT. I cited Kissinger's EXACT words he uttered on Sept. 20th Now, Kissinger can backpeddal and issue a statement AFTER the Debate to support McCain but as it STood DURING the debate OBAMA CORRECTLY CITED WHAT KISSINGER SAID.
*The Nuances are in the DETAILS* Sort of like what's the DIFFERENCE between the TALIBAN and AL Qaeda?
Re: SquirrelLives –
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Squirrel as you knw I think people people vote w/ their gt and what feels right to them no matter what anyone else has to say. Thats just how it goes. Since character is what matters to you vote on character but we must be fair on a forum when addressing character assassination and I know the C word your trying to get in is COMMUNIST so hopefully I'll get it in for you;)
But Like I said, If we had to hold our gov't reps responsable to morals and ethics We'd have to kick out 99.9% of government! We're lucky nowadays if we can find a candidate that we agree with on 40% of the time on issues or character. As you know, I always say private lives should be private and as you know I first uttered those words in regards to Cindy's drug use, Bristol's pregnancy, Where is Obama's grandma, Jenna Bush'sdrinking the list goes on. Those things to me are distractionsfrom what impacts US the people ISSUES. On character If I wanted to be harsh I could judge McCain on Afghanistan AND Phillip Butler's letter " Why I will not vote for John McCain" that was posted on miltary dot com but is still available online.
VIVA OBAMA! Obama '08!
Re: elmo22292 – you have no clue what your talking about and it makes you sound like a dumbass.
Tell me again why he's a good choice for president? He's barely been a Senator! Busy campaigning 2 out of the 3 years there. People wake up!
""In the last 500 Senate votes dating back to September 2006, Barack has skipped out on 40% of them. 40%!?!?! … I know if I only completed 60% of my work I’d probably be fired. …Obama has a history of dodging his obligations as a public servant due to tough votes. In a New York Times article on December 20, it was reported that Obama often voted just “present” in the Illinois Senate. They write:
“In 1999, Barack Obama was faced with a difficult vote in the Illinois legislature — to support a bill that would let some juveniles be tried as adults, a position that risked drawing fire from African-Americans, or to oppose it, possibly undermining his image as a tough-on-crime moderate. In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted “present,” effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.” Interesting. So he skipped out on 130 votes as an Illinois state senator and nearly 40% of votes during his unfinished tenure as a United States Senator. What is he going to do when faced with a tough issue as President? He can’t simply vote present or not show up at all. He’s playing politics, so he can not be questioned on tough votes that may or may not have a negative impact. That’s not what I call leadership.""—ktracy.com
im voting john mccain all the way!
Yeah Obama said McCain was correct now lets READ What he agreed w/ McCain on:
Yes John " the earmark process has been abused”
Yes McCain is right greed and excess of CEO's should NOT be awarded
McCain is right that lobbyists and interest groups r resp for earmark debacle
McCain is right biz taxes are high HOWEVER corporate loopholes allow them to DODGE most taxes. John is right we must cut some taxes, McCain is right violence in Iraq reduced b/c of our troops. John is right, presidents should be prudent in what they say McCain is right we cannot tolerate a nuclear Iran -
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***WOW !!! SO, PERSECUTE OBAMA FOR AGREEING ON WHAT WE ALL AGREE ON?! HE AGREED WITH THE ISSUE NOT HOW MCCAIN WANTS TO HANDLE IT! AGAIN, NOT ON HOW MCCAIN WANTS TO HANDLE THEM! READ THE TRANSCRIPTS FOR YOURSELVES OR BETTER YET CTRL F the word "right " and read the points!****
this is the part that i found funny. when obama talked to the moderator or to mccain, he was looking at who he was talking to. body language says a lot to me. but when mccain talked, he just stood facing one way and spoke, somewhat similar to a robot. after seeing that friday, not i understand why he picked sarah palin, even with all her flaws, at least she's somewhat personable. he's like a fucking stone!
Re: PalinsGirl – Well Fuck when your 180 years old your gonna have experience over everyone, but he may die of old age in office and your girl is a dumbass.
Re: Reneesouflee – Post 531
See Post 555 for the C word I was referring to. I would never call Obama a cunt. Oooops.
Re: SquirrelLives – #563
Yeah… he's more of a douche. And his long ass fingers really creep me out.
Re: SquirrelLives –
Yeah 563
I knew you were trying to get out communist. I think anytime refers to the c word though nowadays we automatically assume the more degrading female insults as you BOLDLY got to write
Hope your Monday is going well and did respond hope you didn't miss it. BTW, I'm still upset on this darn BAILOUT! I don't want it to pass to be honest but it will….
Re: Smirks – Post 564
I with you there. In the O'Reilly interview, he kept reaching out towards Bill and trying to touch him.
Re: MINXLIVES – Post 565
Normally I would refrain from doing that. I couldn't resist getting the jab in since she lectured me unnecessarily.
Re: MINXLIVES – Post 565
I'm conflicted on the bailout. I like the agreement they have now better than the original Paulson plan. They got rid of the ACORN clause and a few other things. Regardless of how we feel about it, it's a done deal. Now that House Republicans have gotten their 2 cents in, all are now on board. Everyone has the cover they wanted and no fingers can be pointed at either party.
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I'll be glad to get by the gas crisis we are having here in the South. It's a pain in the ass to drive around looking for gas then wait 30 mins to get to the pump. Not sure if there is any blame for this either.
I am Canadian. I wish I could vote for your president!! Barack all the way!
Re: SquirrelLives –
Post 568
My best friend lives in North Carolina and she couldn't go to Virginia Beach because she couldn't find a gas station w/ gas either! I'm happy we don't have to deal with that. More importantly in regards to this bailout I'm happy both parties are onboard accepting responsability I mean at the end of the day NO ONE wants to breathe near that thing but our President says we NEED it and Congress doesn't want to take on angry constituents esp. if they don't agree w/ the bill to begin with. I still think Paulson needs to be removed….
Re: Melissa is always right – 502. Yeah… and McCain looks like a spring chicken.
Re: LusciousLiz –
Since you're such an idiot too busy copy and pasting other peoples words and then can't remember your own..let me quote you #482 "Wrong…McCain is old…there is a SLIGHT chance he will live 4 more years"
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Did that refresh you're tiny little memory…I know it must be tuff remember gibberish! At least when I post something I don't have to look it up on google first and then copy and paste it as my post! Try thinking on your own and having some substance OF YOUR OWN.
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And sorry honey you're a 41 washed up old hag, and I'm a full time model/actress in LA so let's not play the beauty card because you wont win that one, or the intellegents so I guess you're just screwed either way. And Franky not only is my dog adorable, but she's very smart and she even inspired me to write my first published book on Litter Box Training for Small Dogs…so technically she's made me money =)
uhm why didn't mccain blink at all during the debate?
Re: arrora – LOL…Thank you so much for this post…they say it's good for your health to laugh everyday…you just gave me a good one!!! Saying "he may live another 4 years" is not the same thing as saying "he will only live another 4 years" you COMPLETE IDIOT! And one more thing, you have proven to everyone already how stupid you truely are but I would like to challenge you to compare pictures…I may be 41 but I am 100% ready to show you how much better I look than your little self…up for it? Please also keep in mind that beauty comes from inside and NO ONE here CARES if you are a model..you have no brain so the beauty part (if it's true which I doubt) would only get old anyhow so dream on little girl…I don't just think I look better than you I KNOW I do and I know I am a better person than you so really that's all that matters right? As far as my copy & paste, I never claimed to have written it but truer words have never been spoken so instead of stating I copied it (which I admit 100%) let's hear you back some of it up? You are so dumb it's actually scary…in fact I see some posts from others commenting on your stupidness….guess I'm not the only one who see's it….
Re: zilli16 – because he is a robot like his followers….Palin'sGirl is a PERFECT example, I bet the beauty queen, model (yeah right) doesn't blink either!
Re: zilli16 – an even better example is toilet paper…I mean Arrora
OBAMA GOTS THIS!!! MCCAIN DON'T GOT SHIT ON OBAMA!!!!!!!
Re: arrora –
"and I'm a full time model/actress in LA"
Translation: a waitress
Re: Sampson – LOL…Amen
Re: Chavke – Lol again…you guys have me rollin now
Re: MINXLIVES Cherry pick whatever you want, doesn't change the FACT that DURING THE DEBATE as it stands on Kissinger Obama was CORRECT –
Um it's not what *I* said it's what KISSINGER said. He said no, what Obama said was not true, I would not do what he said I would, or agree with him.
That isn't ME saying anything. Unless you are calling Kissinger a liar..
BTW take the spaz down a level or two.
Re: Sampson and your girl is a dumbass –
Then that would make you what? Considering she's accomplished more in her life than you have.
Re: the_doll_88 this is the part that i found funny. when obama talked to the moderator or to mccain, he was looking at who he was talking to. body language says a lot to me. but when mccain talked, he just stood facing one way and spoke, somewhat similar to a robot. after seeing that friday, not i understand why he picked sarah palin, even with all her flaws, at least she's somewhat personable. he's like a fucking stone! –
Hey let me let you in on something. There was a 5 year time McCain was a POW. (He could have gotten out of there in a year had he given up his country, but did not) During those 5 years he got all kinds of bones broken, esp his arms etc. All for his country. All so little snots like you can get on internet boards and make fun of him because he's "stiff" and "robot like"
I don't care if you are voting for the man or not. Show some fucking respect for the people that made it so you can run your ignorant mouth off while showing your ass.
Re: LusciousLiz because he is a robot like his follower – Another sheeple.. .
BTW after all the smoke has cleared, all of Obama's bullshit remarks debunked, and now the whole braceletgate has started about Obama wearing the bracelet of a soldier that had parents that kindly asked Obama to STOP WEARING their son's bracelet for shilling reasons. That they want it back. This was BEFORE the debates.
That right there shows Obama is more about #1 (Actually in this case #2 lol) than he is the American people he wants to "protect"
He's a punk. A self centered megalomanic.
Re: KevinK –
"I don't care if you are voting for the man or not. Show some fucking respect for the people that made it so you can run your ignorant mouth off while showing your ass."
You just love to hear yourself talk, don't you? How do you know what anyone on here has or hasn't done for their country? Some of these people on her could be veterans, sons/daughters/spouses of veterans, so stop being so pompous. Respect is something to be earned, not thrown around blindly. And as far as your sheep comments, funny you say that, because that's what you're starting to sound like yourself. Braceletgate? Give me break.
Re: KevinK – bottom Line Kevin…you LOOK at someone when you speak to them. He never did.
Re: KevinK – And you would be one of those robots honey….there is nothing REAL about McCain…he seems programmed and the idiot he has at his side is no where near ready to help run this country…it's SO simple yet you Republican's refuse to see it!! Amazing!
Re: LusciousLiz –
Oh please, I know more about politics and am very aware of the world and foreign affairs. I don't need to copy and paste all my posts from the Internet because I actually have a brain and can think on my own. I will gladly post my picture, however don't harrass me because it's the main reason I've opted not to. Being a Full time Actress/Model means I make a living off it, you can make $10,000 off one SAG commercial so yes I consider it a full time job, I have nothing wrong with anyone who is a waitress, I think it's a stressful job and gave it up after my first 2 yrs in college.
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I'll change my avatar to my picture, but I really don't have anything to prove nor do I have any desire to see your picture, I'm not the one who personally attacked your looks, I could careless because I think I'm a beautiful Intellegent women and just don't make comments about people's looks because frankly it's not the most important thing in the world. However, since you think it is, enjoy new Avatar. If you'd like to see my full portfolio just send me your email, I have nothing to hide, I'm FABULOUS!
Re: LusciousLiz –
There ya go, my new avatars up, here's a little picture someone made for me, I love the butteryfly, and there's plenty more, but frankly I don't like having my real picture up so if you're that desperate to see more pictures of me I'd rather just send you an email, I plan on changing my avatar back to my dog tomorrow.
Re: KevinK –
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And like most retards on here you resort to name calling when being schooled call me a spazz but guess what this spazz is correct. I also love how you completely ignore the following line which is up until the debate BEFORE backpeddaling Obama CORRECTLY quoted Kissinger. Tough pill to swallow huh? What happened to "I just come on here and point out the right side of an argment and when on a right side you point out the left view pont. You are so full of it the aroma is oozing through my laptop. All so called respect I had for your intelligence went out the window. Stay on here and split hairs to suit your tastes.doesn't change the FACT that DURING THE DEBATE as it stands on Kissinger Obama was CORRECTAND I cited Kissinger's EXACT words he uttered on Sept. 20th Now, Kissinger can backpeddal and issue a statement AFTER the Debate to support McCain but as it STood DURING the debate OBAMA CORRECTLY CITED WHAT KISSINGER SAID.
*The Nuances are in the DETAILS* Sort of like what's the DIFFERENCE between the TALIBAN and AL Qaeda?
Re: arrora – Arrora…being a member of the Screen Actor's Guild myself, since you were running around with snot all over your face I don;t need you to explain to me how it works…also, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP LOOKS YOU MORON…I guess you need to re read your post. You are right, your avatar is cute, your fur is amazing and the ears are cute. As far as the girl in your picture remember one thing, anyone who needs to go on PerezHilton and talk obsessively about being a model/actress, is living in a fantasy land and I am not the only one here that knows it. You have continued to say that I am a "washed up 41 year old hag" then say you never brought up looks! I mentioned that McCain may not be around for 4 years and you said I claimed he would die in 4 years! You are a bi-polar, mixed up, robot follower of McCain who wishes she was a beauty queen…I won't respond to your utter non sense again
Just turned 41 in June and I look way better than Arrora and Palin! And I could run the country better than Palin too! lol
Hey where is my avatar?
Re: Chavke –
You just love to hear yourself talk, don't you?
How does one hear themselves on here? But yes, I know what you are attempting to say. And you could say it about yourself too.
How do you know what anyone on here has or hasn't done for their country?
Never said either way. But even if you have, you still shouldn't disrespect those that also have.
Respect is something to be earned, not thrown around blindly.
And if anyone says John McCain hasn't earned it, well that says more about them than it does McCain.
And as far as your sheep comments, funny you say that, because that's what you're starting to sound like yourself. Braceletgate? Give me break.
#1 You obvoisly don't get the sheeple reference if you are calling me one, or are uninformed about me. #2 the "braceletgate" was a play on words.
EVER since watergate people in the political word end some sort of misdoing with gate at the end. Hence, Watergate, Monicagate, etc.
Re: LusciousLiz Re: KevinK – bottom Line Kevin…you LOOK at someone when you speak to them. He never did. –
And I was telling you why he had a lack of movement. You wouldn't expect someone that just say, broke their back to look at you would you? Of course not. That would be you being silly.
Not only that, there was many complaints Obama was speaking to the speaker and not to McCain or the country.
Re: LusciousLiz And you would be one of those robots honey….there is nothing REAL about McCain…he seems programmed and the idiot he has at his side is no where near ready to help run this country…it's SO simple yet you Republican's refuse to see it!! Amazing! –
LOL lets see, a character assassination, baseless accusations and all out bs side zealotry all in one post. And yet you said nothing. NOTHING.
Is that all you have?
Re: MINXLIVES And like most retards on here you resort to name calling when being schooled call me a spazz but guess what this spazz is correct. I also love how you completely ignore the following line which is up until the debate BEFORE backpeddaling Obama CORRECTLY quoted Kissinger –
#1 you didn't school me. #2 You are still spazzing #3 I suggest you go read what I was talking about.
Re: LusciousLiz Just turned 41 in June and I look way better than Arrora and Palin! And I could run the country better than Palin too! lol –
From reading your posts. I doubt that very seriously.
Re: KevinK –
"How does one hear themselves on here? But yes, I know what you are attempting to say."
Don't play stupid. You know what I was talking about. And I don't post nearly as much as you, so, no, the same can't be said about myself.
"But even if you have, you still shouldn't disrespect those that also have."
The only person who saw it as an act of disrespect is you. It's easy for you to call Obama a moron, idiot, and a plethora of another names, but when someone calls your hero stiff and robotic, you post a bunch of meaningless crap about respect. Yes, his mannerisms were stiff and robotic. The people who posted those comments were talking about his presentation, not his war injuries. Get over it.
"And if anyone says John McCain hasn't earned it, well that says more about them than it does McCain."
I didn't say he hasn't earned it. Please point out where I have. I said respect isn't something to be thrown around. Sorry, but I'm not easily swayed by lazy patriotic sentiments, nor do I respect someone for the sake of it or because someone says they should be.