YES YES YES good for americans that they ban gay mariage. The problem is simple ppl in general want more and more if you give them something. For example couple of houndreds years ago gayz would have been burned alive. Nowadayz as a group you have many rights so if you don't like it it's your problem. Gayz are begining to push the limit they want more and more. I read some replies and i'm stuned by some peoples motives like "love" and "freedom" yes everybody it's supposed to have both of them BUT if i love my mother or my dog would it be so normal to love fuck marry one of this examples? By your logic i should be aloud to love and marry or do anything i want because it's a free country and it's my right. NO IS NOT ppl shouldn't abuse democracy because if you say gay should be legal then drogs should be legal to and not far away in the future maybe a group of people who like bombs should say wtf it's democracy let us all make bombs at home it our right because you can't condamn me for what i "love". And this the point of view of a non american and i'm glad that america bans gay mariage.
i'm against 8, but i've got to admit that the tv ad is very effective. the clip of gavin newsome that they're using is really obnoxious. it kinda makes me want to vote for it just to wipe the smirk off of his face! don't get me wrong. i'm not voting for it. i never would, but the conservatives have really got an effective campaign running right now. if it fails, blame newsome for being a smug s.o.b.
This is serious stuff folks and a threat to the well being of this country. Vote Yes on Prop 8 and defeat the left and their liberal America hating ways. Keep marriage between a man and a woman.
I live in England and we (gays/lesbians) have the right to have a civil ceremony. I think it's a shame that America has such a difficult time with the idea of gays being able to marry. I am not expecting everyone to accept gays/lesbians but at the end of the day, you can't help who you fall in love with. Just because "GOD" said it's wrong, doesn't mean it's bad. I am a Christian and I believe in acceptance and tolerance. I also believe that GOD forgives and loves all his children. I also find that Christians are the most judgemental and unaccepting people there are. I can't stand all the criticism of gays/lesbians on this thread. At least all you breeders (straights) can show affection in public, you don't have to go to a gay area of town to hold hands or kiss, you don't have abuse hurled at you. Over here when I am out with my boyfriend, the only place we hold hands/hug/have a quick kiss in public is in Soho (London). Mainly because PDAs are frowned on for whatever your sexuality but straights still have a choice. I would get my head kicked in depending on where I was.
I think it's about equality for all…. Even if you do support McCain. lol
Obama is the way to go
Didn't any of you kool aid drinkers who worship the Obamessiah watch the debates. Joe Biden clearly said that both he and Obama support marriage as only defined between one man and one woman. Single issue voters should be banned from the voting booths.
Bush doesn't support Gay marriage either in response to princess bitch. I hate our Prime Minister (Gordon Brown) as he is clueless and his government just cary on spending and borrowing and putting us further in dept. We have our own problems with the Bank crisis at the moment. People are losing their savings. The governemnt are trying to sort it out… But that's a different story, as I said I hate Labour and agree with alot of Conservative policies.. The only problem there is that they are anit gay.. Even if half their party are stuck in the closet… much like the Church is… Its a catch 22… What to do?
Conservatives are people that often vote republican….and republicans believe in little government. So if that's the case, then WHY should the government be allowed to dictate what someone can and cannot do? Also, there's a such thing as separation of church and state. Some of the Christians in this country are no better than the Taliban…
Re: uraPIGperez – You are just retarded and stupid, I can't believe when i read what you believe in. YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE BIBLE? YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOME BOOK THAT HAS NO PROOF IT IS WRITTEN BY THIS HIGHER POWER, well let me write a book and chapters on telling you what is right and what is wrong and lets call it THE SEQUEL, you idiot. You should have been aborted, YOU ARE A WASTE OF SKIN AND AIR.
Re: Princess Bitch – Well voting for a corpse isn't any better, but u might be into that. Even though Obama.Biden may believe in unions only between a woman and a man, the bigger issue which right now is our economy, they are hands down the winners, laws will change and so will anything that deprives someone from being EQUAL
Re: Medinillastyle – Someday, when you grow up, you'll get the fact that politicians are ALL a bunch of power-hungry whores who will do or say anything to get elected. Once you get to this epiphany, you will be able to objectively evaluate the issues. For now, keep drinking the koolaid.
The courts had NO right overturning the 1st time we voted to keep marriage between a man and a women. If you want to be gay then be gay…have a civil service, sign your money over to each other, no one cares about that, the issue is NOT about being gay it's the fact that our voice was ignored the 1st time. We voted against gay marriage and that's how it should of stood. Everyone should be upset about that because if the courts felt they could over turn that then they could overturn anything we voted for or against and that's wrong on every level, no matter what side your on.
Re: knowitall – WTF? So Asians and whites are voting No and only blacks and poor repub whites are voting yes??? WRONG! First of all I live in an upscale"white" neighborhood and there are Yes on 8 signs (as well as McCain/Palin) signs everywhere. I can't believe how many damn signs there are on all my neighbor's lawns. There are no Asians here sweetie. I don't think you know what the hell you're talking about. It is definately educated, upper middle class whites who are voting Yes on 8 as well AND a lot being gay is taboo with a lot of Asians as well. I don't know where you are getting your info from.
Every since that ad came out (they've been playing it non stop on the radio and tv) I have noticed Yes on 8 signs everywhere. I can't believe how many people are against it. That Gavin Newsome ad has really hurt this because it is being played continually. It really is sad to see that things in this country are not getting much better in 2008. Bigotry, racism (Palin/McCain tactics) are still alive and well in the country of freedom. Apparently freedom is only for white, straight, men with money. Sad.
NO on PROP 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is wrong with people?
If this bill passes in California (the most liberal of all states) then this will set human rights back decades in the USA.
I am so glad I live in Canada, where people who love each other can marry each other regardless of their gender
I don't understand how anyone can hate on love, hate on hate… there is enough of that to go around!
Thank God. Seriously, People can love who ever they want. But please don't bring God into this. Do what you want, but don't bring GOD into something he despises. If you don't know what I am talking about, read Revelations in the Bible.
Someone mentioned " god given right to LOVE whoever they choose."…UUmm..no. He says you can love who you want but not SLEEP with them and want them lustfully. are you freakin' kidding me?
Voting No on Prop 8 is a huge slap in the face to many people and God. If you don't believe in God, respect those who do.
Traditionally, marriage is between A MAN AND WOMAN. So don't take your perversions to marriage. Please. And don't start saying I'm a gay hater, cuz I am not. Two of my best friends are gay and I love them like no other.
Re: LApple420 – we don't care who you love! love whoever you want! but seriously, don't bring God into the equation thinking it's okay and corrupting the tradition of marriage between a man and a woman
Re: ms3pt – You obviously do not read the Bible and are pretty naive when it comes to knowing wtf ur talking about.
Please be educated before you start running your mouth.
Marriage is not about a man and a woman, it's about love. It's about two people who love each other so much, they want to be together forever.
In my opinion, marriage has been mattering less and less these days. Look at the divorce rates, it's fucking ridiculous.
However, I have a cousin who is gay. He has been married to his life partner for a long time now, and they have been together my whole life. When I talk about him, I never just mention Tim. It's always been Tim and Rick.
Those guys are two of the most kindhearted people in the world. All they want is to be together. They are perfect for each other.
You know what's funny? A lot of people think gays are ruining the country, but the only people who have ever been mean to me are all straight. Every gay person I've ever met has been a complete sweetheart.
Alexander the Great was gay. Hans Christian Anderson too. Were they wrong? Were they sick? Did they not deserve the same rights as everyone else?
Wow, I think I'm about to lose my faith in humanity completely.
Oh, and FYI, PEREZ IS THE SHIT, AND HE DESERVES TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY TOO.
WE LOVES PEREZ!
Re: KevinK – Oh yeah I am sorry. I am the one who hates people for loving others and doesn't think that anyone should be happy in life. Just because of who they choose to be with.
Re: kbellaa – Well then maybe you should talk to your fellow christians and ask why they brought GOD into it. And please don't give us fucking shit about brining god into this. When they proposed prop 8 is WHEN god was brought INTO it! So you can thank all your religious buddies out there for bringing GOD into it! So you can shut your fucking face before you RUN YOUR fucking mouth! If you read what I said early you would see that I said GOD should have nothing to do with this. And if GOD wasn't brought into this, we would not be discussing this matterl! So why don't you go educate yourself and get your fucking face out of the bible for a second and think for yourself!
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YES YES YES good for americans that they ban gay mariage. The problem is simple ppl in general want more and more if you give them something. For example couple of houndreds years ago gayz would have been burned alive. Nowadayz as a group you have many rights so if you don't like it it's your problem. Gayz are begining to push the limit they want more and more. I read some replies and i'm stuned by some peoples motives like "love" and "freedom" yes everybody it's supposed to have both of them BUT if i love my mother or my dog would it be so normal to love fuck marry one of this examples? By your logic i should be aloud to love and marry or do anything i want because it's a free country and it's my right. NO IS NOT ppl shouldn't abuse democracy because if you say gay should be legal then drogs should be legal to and not far away in the future maybe a group of people who like bombs should say wtf it's democracy let us all make bombs at home it our right because you can't condamn me for what i "love". And this the point of view of a non american and i'm glad that america bans gay mariage.
Sad that the young are surprisingly using their God given common sense for a change?
Not sad at all.
Sad that they aren't being brainwashed? No. But don't worry, they will when they get to college. The strong will survive, the weak become sheeple.
Re: ms3pt DIT to the fucking DOH! Hate and intolerance breed hate and intolerance. Its really sad that all these people think they are taking a stand for the sanctity of marriage… –
You are the man you hate.
i'm against 8, but i've got to admit that the tv ad is very effective. the clip of gavin newsome that they're using is really obnoxious. it kinda makes me want to vote for it just to wipe the smirk off of his face! don't get me wrong. i'm not voting for it. i never would, but the conservatives have really got an effective campaign running right now. if it fails, blame newsome for being a smug s.o.b.
Re: khe0ps "For example couple of houndreds years ago gayz would have been burned alive. Nowadayz as a group you have many rights so if you don't like it it's your problem. Gayz are begining to push the limit they want more and more." –
it's just like the blacks. a couple of hundred years ago they were slaves. then the were given their freedom, the right to own property and to vote. now they think that they can run for president! can you imagine the arrogance? one group thinking that they can have the same rights as everybody else? (all sarcasm aside. khe0ps, i don't know where you're from, but i feel sorry for you.)
This is serious stuff folks and a threat to the well being of this country. Vote Yes on Prop 8 and defeat the left and their liberal America hating ways. Keep marriage between a man and a woman.
DUH!!!! Californians voting NO on gay marriage once already. You guys are shocked that it's heading that way a second time?
Re: BillyWhite – Any discussion of sexuality is inappropriate for young children, you idiot.
I live in England and we (gays/lesbians) have the right to have a civil ceremony. I think it's a shame that America has such a difficult time with the idea of gays being able to marry. I am not expecting everyone to accept gays/lesbians but at the end of the day, you can't help who you fall in love with. Just because "GOD" said it's wrong, doesn't mean it's bad. I am a Christian and I believe in acceptance and tolerance. I also believe that GOD forgives and loves all his children. I also find that Christians are the most judgemental and unaccepting people there are. I can't stand all the criticism of gays/lesbians on this thread. At least all you breeders (straights) can show affection in public, you don't have to go to a gay area of town to hold hands or kiss, you don't have abuse hurled at you. Over here when I am out with my boyfriend, the only place we hold hands/hug/have a quick kiss in public is in Soho (London). Mainly because PDAs are frowned on for whatever your sexuality but straights still have a choice. I would get my head kicked in depending on where I was.
I think it's about equality for all…. Even if you do support McCain. lol
Obama is the way to go
Didn't any of you kool aid drinkers who worship the Obamessiah watch the debates. Joe Biden clearly said that both he and Obama support marriage as only defined between one man and one woman. Single issue voters should be banned from the voting booths.
Bush doesn't support Gay marriage either in response to princess bitch. I hate our Prime Minister (Gordon Brown) as he is clueless and his government just cary on spending and borrowing and putting us further in dept. We have our own problems with the Bank crisis at the moment. People are losing their savings. The governemnt are trying to sort it out… But that's a different story, as I said I hate Labour and agree with alot of Conservative policies.. The only problem there is that they are anit gay.. Even if half their party are stuck in the closet… much like the Church is… Its a catch 22… What to do?
Conservatives are people that often vote republican….and republicans believe in little government. So if that's the case, then WHY should the government be allowed to dictate what someone can and cannot do? Also, there's a such thing as separation of church and state. Some of the Christians in this country are no better than the Taliban…
What's so sad about youngsters who first where opposed and are now for the change?
Re: uraPIGperez – You are just retarded and stupid, I can't believe when i read what you believe in. YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE BIBLE? YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOME BOOK THAT HAS NO PROOF IT IS WRITTEN BY THIS HIGHER POWER, well let me write a book and chapters on telling you what is right and what is wrong and lets call it THE SEQUEL, you idiot. You should have been aborted, YOU ARE A WASTE OF SKIN AND AIR.
Re: Princess Bitch – Well voting for a corpse isn't any better, but u might be into that. Even though Obama.Biden may believe in unions only between a woman and a man, the bigger issue which right now is our economy, they are hands down the winners, laws will change and so will anything that deprives someone from being EQUAL
Actually, I don't think this is sad at all…..Yes on 8!
Re: Medinillastyle – Someday, when you grow up, you'll get the fact that politicians are ALL a bunch of power-hungry whores who will do or say anything to get elected. Once you get to this epiphany, you will be able to objectively evaluate the issues. For now, keep drinking the koolaid.
The courts had NO right overturning the 1st time we voted to keep marriage between a man and a women. If you want to be gay then be gay…have a civil service, sign your money over to each other, no one cares about that, the issue is NOT about being gay it's the fact that our voice was ignored the 1st time. We voted against gay marriage and that's how it should of stood. Everyone should be upset about that because if the courts felt they could over turn that then they could overturn anything we voted for or against and that's wrong on every level, no matter what side your on.
Re: knowitall – WTF? So Asians and whites are voting No and only blacks and poor repub whites are voting yes??? WRONG! First of all I live in an upscale"white" neighborhood and there are Yes on 8 signs (as well as McCain/Palin) signs everywhere. I can't believe how many damn signs there are on all my neighbor's lawns. There are no Asians here sweetie. I don't think you know what the hell you're talking about. It is definately educated, upper middle class whites who are voting Yes on 8 as well AND a lot being gay is taboo with a lot of Asians as well. I don't know where you are getting your info from.
Every since that ad came out (they've been playing it non stop on the radio and tv) I have noticed Yes on 8 signs everywhere. I can't believe how many people are against it. That Gavin Newsome ad has really hurt this because it is being played continually. It really is sad to see that things in this country are not getting much better in 2008. Bigotry, racism (Palin/McCain tactics) are still alive and well in the country of freedom. Apparently freedom is only for white, straight, men with money. Sad.
Re: Princess Bitch – Good name for you. But not the princess part : ))))))))
NO on PROP 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is wrong with people?
If this bill passes in California (the most liberal of all states) then this will set human rights back decades in the USA.
I am so glad I live in Canada, where people who love each other can marry each other regardless of their gender
I don't understand how anyone can hate on love, hate on hate… there is enough of that to go around!
Re: mzthng – I'm guessing Mzthng that you are more like Mztroll.
Thank God. Seriously, People can love who ever they want. But please don't bring God into this. Do what you want, but don't bring GOD into something he despises. If you don't know what I am talking about, read Revelations in the Bible.
Someone mentioned " god given right to LOVE whoever they choose."…UUmm..no. He says you can love who you want but not SLEEP with them and want them lustfully. are you freakin' kidding me?
Voting No on Prop 8 is a huge slap in the face to many people and God. If you don't believe in God, respect those who do.
Traditionally, marriage is between A MAN AND WOMAN. So don't take your perversions to marriage. Please. And don't start saying I'm a gay hater, cuz I am not. Two of my best friends are gay and I love them like no other.
Re: kristennicolem – America was built ON Christianity so Idk wtf ur talking about, saying why america brings in "religious" laws.
Re: LApple420 – we don't care who you love! love whoever you want! but seriously, don't bring God into the equation thinking it's okay and corrupting the tradition of marriage between a man and a woman
Re: ms3pt – You obviously do not read the Bible and are pretty naive when it comes to knowing wtf ur talking about.
Please be educated before you start running your mouth.
Marriage is not about a man and a woman, it's about love. It's about two people who love each other so much, they want to be together forever.
In my opinion, marriage has been mattering less and less these days. Look at the divorce rates, it's fucking ridiculous.
However, I have a cousin who is gay. He has been married to his life partner for a long time now, and they have been together my whole life. When I talk about him, I never just mention Tim. It's always been Tim and Rick.
Those guys are two of the most kindhearted people in the world. All they want is to be together. They are perfect for each other.
You know what's funny? A lot of people think gays are ruining the country, but the only people who have ever been mean to me are all straight. Every gay person I've ever met has been a complete sweetheart.
Alexander the Great was gay. Hans Christian Anderson too. Were they wrong? Were they sick? Did they not deserve the same rights as everyone else?
Wow, I think I'm about to lose my faith in humanity completely.
Oh, and FYI, PEREZ IS THE SHIT, AND HE DESERVES TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY TOO.
WE LOVES PEREZ!
Re: KevinK – Oh yeah I am sorry. I am the one who hates people for loving others and doesn't think that anyone should be happy in life. Just because of who they choose to be with.
Re: kbellaa – Well then maybe you should talk to your fellow christians and ask why they brought GOD into it. And please don't give us fucking shit about brining god into this. When they proposed prop 8 is WHEN god was brought INTO it! So you can thank all your religious buddies out there for bringing GOD into it! So you can shut your fucking face before you RUN YOUR fucking mouth! If you read what I said early you would see that I said GOD should have nothing to do with this. And if GOD wasn't brought into this, we would not be discussing this matterl! So why don't you go educate yourself and get your fucking face out of the bible for a second and think for yourself!