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Filed under: InspirationNO STATE should be allowed to make a constitutional amendment with just 51% of the vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: November 5, 2008 at 3:31 pm
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Just Sayin'Filed under: InspirationNO STATE should be allowed to make a constitutional amendment with just 51% of the vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted: November 5, 2008 at 3:31 pm
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i totally agreee…wtf!
completely agree with you perez!!
i made sure my family in CA voted no on h8te!!
Totally agree.
AGREED. With something that big, it should be a 2/3 majority.
Prop 8 is still being considered too close to call, isn't it?
I agree, but it is the majority
The majority has spoken.Live with it.
FL requires 60%…and amendment 2 passed with 62%. BS!
DO SOMETHING PEREZ RUN FOR PEREZIDENT IN 2012
B THE 1ST MEXICAN
i agree.
amen to that!!!!
I agree! I have read some of the comments on the previous stories you have written about prop 8 and it disgusts me! People should be ashamed of themselves!!! Some of those comments left just prove EVERYTHING that is WRONG with prop 8!!!!
Even my grandma voted no and she is 86 fucking years old!!! Keep on pissing the religious homophobes off by posting your disgust about this..it's really fucked up!!
Majority rules… Democracy, heard of it?
agree fully. everyone needs to be equal. we are in the country of freedom, yet people are not free to be who they are.
I agree 100%!!!
Passing Prop h8 is bullshit!
I'm sure if the No side won, Perez, you'd be talking about how unfair this is for the Yes side. You're just whining now, dude.
That's an excellent point. Let's hope the appeals work!
GET THE FUCK OVER IT PEREZ……………..
you LOST.
fucking suck it up you pu$$y and move on………..
my fucking god!
GET OVER IT. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. IT'S DONE FOR NOW.
I AGREE, this is not equality, this is discrimination against a significant part of the population !!!
Its more than half, so why not? Because it was not what you wanted.
get over it. start eating beav again. gays will never be allowed to marry in california. that's reality. obama will find a cure for your disease.
I wonder if the "yes" voters ever considered the thousands of marriages they were nullifying? Or how it would feel if their own marriages were taken away from them?
I'm so disappointed in this.
i agree. if people are gay, they're going to be gay. do they think by banning gay marriage there will be less gays? just get over it and let them do what they like, they have every right in the world to be married. makes me sick how close minded people can be.
There were a few amendments in Florida that needed a 60% for it to pass.
No kidding! If amendments need to pass with a 2/3 majority then SO DOES THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: TorontoMike – isn't he just getting plain old annoying with this? my god.
It's not over yet.
Roughly 400,000 votes separate yes from no on Prop 8 – out of 10 million votes tallied.
Based on turnout estimates reported yesterday, we expect that there are more than 3 million and possibly as many as 4 million absentee and provisional ballots yet to be counted.
Given that fundamental rights are at stake, we must wait to hear from the Secretary of State tomorrow how many votes are yet to be counted as well as where they are from.
It is clearly a very close election and we monitored the results all evening and this morning.
As of this point, the election is too close to call.
Because Prop 8 involves the sensitive matter of individual rights, we believe it is important to wait until we receive further information about the outcome.
Geoff Kors
Executive Committee NO on Prop 8
Kate Kendell
Executive Committee NO on Prop 8
www.noonprop8.com
You sound like a whining 5-yr-old at the check out line of the grocery store.
it is a majority. welcome to democracy.
I am a Gay Hispanic Male living in SF and I am a diehard HILLARY Supporter!!
All you Gays and Lesbians in California that Voted for OBAMA…well you got yours!!
I guess all your Black OBAMA Friends in OAKLAND, Compton and the big cities didn't "Return the Love"…they Voted against you on Prop 8…they scewed you even after you voted to further their Civil Rights thru OBAMA…but the Black OBAMA Voters stabbed you in the back -even after you stood in long voting lines in the Castro and West Hollywood…well I voted for McCain after my Democratic Party Leaders and OBAMA threw HILLARY "under the bus" not once but twice by denying her a VP spot…well I guess you OBAMA Worshiping Gays and Lesbians got your Just Desserts!!
It's 52%, I bet you would not have the same opinion if it was the other way around.
Pfffffffffff, sore loser
No to Happy Marriage, oh wait got it wrong.
What is wrong with California? Didn't the Governator tell you to vote NO on Prop 8? This is the 21th Century not the Puritan 17th Century. People should be allowed to get hitched to whomever they wish, be it male, female, robot or possibly toy.
SORRY PEREZ…YES THEY CAN!!!
i don't agree with prop 8 and i wish it wasn't being passed
BUT if obama won by 51% you'd still be saying he won fair as fair, every vote counts which means that 1% does count
sorry i want gay marriage to be legal everywhere too
is it official???
agreed. CA, FL, & AZ.. you suck.
that's what i have been saying all day!!
No state should be allowed to propose a law that discriminates against American citizens.
I didn't hear you crying when Gore won the popular vote in 2000 but because it affects the gays in 2008, you're whining like the bitch you are. Figures people would only get upset when it slightly affects them.
THANK YOU CALIFORNIA
AGREED.
wtf……..12 peaceful hours i've had looking forward to the end of the 8 year bitch fest………no more whining fucker….it's over!!
no state should be allowed to have 55 electoral votes either!
…right…unless it's the 51% who agree with your opinion.
Rules are rules and were known at the beginning.
Using that logic, one could just as easily argue that no politically-motivated court comprised of a tiny handful of people should be able to unilaterally undermine the public vote. I think it would be better for you to wait until we have a result before going off in posts like these. And when you do go off, make sure you do so in the most helpful manner possible. You're kind of making a case for the opposition. So, SHHHHHH, Perez!
if you had won with 51%, then you wouldn't be saying that.
What would be a good number then? If Obama can win with a pop vote of 54% surely 51% is okay too. You can't pick and choose, sweetheart. People say that Obama was mandated by the people, but it seems so was Prop 8… don't be a hypocrite. The people have spoken
Re: chicagogirl – Thank you Thank you Thank you
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.
HAHAHHAAH PEREZ CAMP…GET OVER IT
P.S. Martin Luther King, how dare you guys put his picture up there, he def. was not fighting for gay rights
My. God.
I totally agree with you Perez. The results I see on the MSN news page right now are 52% Yes and 48% No. That's way too close. It should have to be a majority vote. I'm hoping that the 3 million absentee ballots overturn Prop 8.
I'm so happy that I am Canadian and that I live in a country where equality is a RIGHT and not a privilege.
PEREZ SHUT UP ALREADY, IM SORRY FOR YOU, BUT ENOUGH! WHATS DONE IS DONE. PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, NOW DEAL WITH IT LIKE I GOTTA DEAL WITH OBAMA!
AMEN!!!!
QUIT FUCKING WHINING YOU LITTLE BITCH! Majority always rules. Jesus.
ditto
Welcome to the wonderful world of 3rd grade math you idiot! It's called fractions and 51% is more than half.
Perez my dear…
it's time to let it go…
No 8 didn't get passed…truly we're all sorry…
but get ON with it ALREADY!!! SHOW MORE PEEN!!!!
Wait for the absentee Ballots, perez, before you get mad. REMEMBER 2000?
But they can make it legal with just 51% right?
Welcome to politics perez.
HAHAHAHA! Give me a break. If this amendment was in favor of a right to gay marriage, 51% would be just fuckin' fine with you.
The rules go across the board, friend. You don't like the results, but it's the way a majority democratic process works for things you like AND things you don't.
Sorry pal.
Agree!! I feel so lucky to live in Canada where same-sex marriage has been legal since 2005. But the fact that a vote with only 51% of support can now change the constitution, which was made to protect the civil and human rights of every American, and remove those rights is just plain wrong. In most school divisions, student council, and other groups/organizations, any amendment to their constitution usually requires 60-65% of members being in favour of the change. The fact that Californian voters can do this is wrong. JUST PLAIN WRONG. Didn't they all just vote for change in giving their support to Obama?? And then they turn around and say "we don't want this change." WRONG. All human beings are equal. Period. End of story. I know it's not my state, or even my country, but I feel for my fellow gay and lesbian human beings out there who are still fighting for a right that I already have. EVERYONE is entitled to the same rights.
Majority rules!! The difference between 51%-49% is probably a few hundred thousand to a few million people!
seriously! you would think it would have to have a 2/3rd majority or something.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! QUIT YOUR BITCHING AND DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!
I'm so sorry. It must be horrible to be denied the opportunity to show your love for someone through marriage. It's just nonsense.. I'm so sad America is still not ready for this. And then they say America is the country of opportunity, the country that is supposed to be an example for the rest of the world.
Go on and fight for your rights!
But hold on to that feeling of hope, that feeling that one day America will be ready. Just look at Barack
the only state that has passed gay rights legislation without a threat from the courts or a civil law suit is new hampshire.nh approved civil unions which is inferior to marriage in my view. however, the legislature debated the bill. passed it and the govenor signed it. there was nothing pending in the courts they just did it.
AGREED!!
Re: guilty of being white –
HEY HONKY!!!!
I agree and also no constitutional amendment should be allowed based on religious views. Whatever happened to Church being separate from State?
Maybe Obama will fix it for you… oh wait, "my religion believes marriage is between a man and a woman," so good luck with that. Personally I'm for gay marriage especially considering the marriage penalty will increase under Obama.
It happened in the election, with Obama receiving only 52% of the popular vote, so it can happen to Prop 8 too….DEAL WITH IT!!!
YES on Prop 8! I'm glad it won! Gays have all the rights as a married couple now as a domestic partnership. Why do they need the term marriage? This is NOT a civil rights issue! You are not a minority! Get over it gays! Geez!
I agree and disagree
I think that when voting is involved then majority rules
It's like saying Obama shouldn't have won if he had 51%.
But I do think that Prop 8 shouldn't even exist!
All people can marry and that's that!
It shocks me that 1/2 of California voted against it.
If two same sex couples want to marry how does this effect everyone else…it doesn't!
No law should prohibit you from doing this…It's bullshiz and something has gotta change.
I've said it before and I'll say it again
Separation of CHURCH AND STATE!!!
I agree!!
I am APALLED by all the Floridians that voted for Amendment 2.
Its just not right and damn near cruel. No wait, it is ABSOLUTELY cruel!
I bet if it would of passed you wouldnt be saying that…just sayin…
And the rest of the country will have to live under a president we don't believe. Honestly do you even have any maritial prospects Mario?
I disagree. This is a fair democratic system: the majority, no matter how slim, won. Should we also say that Barack should also have recieved at least 75% of the popular vote as well as electoral college votes? No, because you worship him like a Paegan god.
Get over it. It's about time the straight, religious conservative community stops letting the GLBT community run all over them.
If it had been the other way around you would be screaming about winning.. Take your loss like "A Man"
Don't pout when you don't get your way.
I support gay marriage, but the people have spoken. The measure had so much public support in such a liberal state, but the people said, "no," it's not a societal change they want.
This is how change is made fairly. We vote.
This Breaks my heart.
Love is Love.
People said it would be impossible for a black man to ever be the president of this country and that CHANGED yesterday…Why is it so impossible for two people of the same sex to love eachother and have equal rights?
agree or not… 51% IS the majority.
I know it isn't looking good, but it isn't over till its over. They're still counting absentee ballots so we just need to be patient and keep up our hope for equality in California!
Re: Wanna Milk Me? – You say that because you are not gay. Perez is and proudly so. He has EVERY RIGHT to be upset. And you have every right to not read his blog if you don't like what he has to say. Freedom of speech! YOU GET OVER IT!!!!
AAAH JUST GET OVER IT PEREZITO!!!!!
the majority won!
Re: ohjustshutup – Didn't anybody tell you? Sound and well-constructed logic can break the internet. Stop it!
Re: scotty787 –
Too right!
I totally agree!
so sad.
The difference between a regular vote and amending a constitution is that it really needs support of MORE than a majority to get passed. That's why 51% is UNFAIR and unjust in this change.
Under the rules of an election, the majority of votes will determine who gets the electoral votes from each state. So, if Obama gets 51% of the vote, he gets those electoral votes.
However, we're talking about a constitutional amendment. The constitution was created and written to protect the rights of Americans everywhere. When a constitution is amended, in most of the world, it requires in-excess of a majority of support in order for the change to occur. Having participated in various organizations and student councils, and even been present at school division board meetings, I've seen and been apart of votes to change constitutions numerous times. They always require 60-65% support for the change to be made. The constitution, while protecting the rights of individuals in the state of California, deserves to be equally protected by requiring a greater-than-majority vote to be amended. Why are such seeming small and trivial constitutions for organizations protected by such measures, but major government constitutions are not??
completely agree
Actually, civil rights should not be determined by a majority rule. If civil rights were determined in that manner, black people would still have separate public restrooms and water fountains.
So, no, this isn't about whining. This is about civil rights. If you were for Prop 8 or other similar measures in other states - fuck you.
perez it aint about equality for all. equality is available through civil unions. you are trying to redefine marriage and thats unacceptable. your agenda is acceptance and not tolerance. tolerance does not require acceptance yet anyone who doesnt accept your views is a homophobe. it works both ways dude. gays need to be tolerant of straight views the same as straights need to be tolerant of gay views. but don't push acceptance on people. you will lose.
TOUGH LUCK…GO TO CANADA AND GET MARRIED…AND STAY THERE IF YOU WANT!! THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN LEAVE THE COUNTRY
Wow I never would have guessed that there are so many idiots out there, get over it, move on, what the hell if these were your rights that were being revoked your whinning asses would be the first to cry but because gay rights don't affect you, you think it is funny and not important. Anyone that is in love should have the right to marry even if they are same sex couple. Who the hell died and made you god to judge who a person can love. You should learn to let people be happy and have the same rights as yourself.
Totally agree with you 100% on this one Perez.
I am so sorry for all the gays this will hurt
It's really NOT fair.
get the hell over it.
AMEN
Perez I think you are on some bull-ish. A post bashing minorities for the way they voted, then a post with a picture of Dr. King as if this shiz is even on the level of racism and Jim Crow. You're acting as if ALL minorities voted Yes, and like there are no gay ones. YOU'RE A GAY MINORITY!! You can't force minorities to think gays bumping butts in wedded bliss is the same as discrimination on a entire race.
A gay black person will tell you to sit the fudge down when comparing racism to gay marriage. Let's let gays get married, boys join the girl scouts, dog be claimed as dependents on our tax returns…
Cause GAYNESS is not even a descriptive category. On the SAT, do they ask race, gender, and what holes you prefer to stick it in when having sexual relations??? Heck to the nawll. Cause that shiz can change as the sun rises and sets. GEnder and race don't.
Nothing's done until every ballot is counted.