Hey Perez..as a Canadian all I want to say is that not all of Canada is a homophobe. If I could have voted for Prop 8 I would have voted no. Please for the sake of nice Canadian don't bunch us all in as a group of hate mongers. As for Prop 8…I hope it will not be passed. You deserve equality just as much as anybody else. Peace out from Canada!!
I think it would have been more appropriate to title this item: Dear Mark (place blame squarley on the arsehole himself). Dear Canada implies that this type of horrendous behaviour is cool on this side of the border. It ain't! The guy is a dick head…before he's a Canadian!
I love how this was pinpointed in Canada for the one attack in the span of several months that has happened.. but then You never pinpoint the weekly Homosexual attacks and Hate Crimes that occur in the US everyday.
Love to see how many "USA: This Sucks" there would be. hahaha, it would be endless!
When someone says something bad about a hmomsexual it's awful, but when a homosexual says something badabout us it's overlooked. Like when Ellen Degeneres made fun of my province.
As a canadian myself, im appalled that guy would those women just because of their orientation. By the way, to those people who are saying thats its canadas fault, ur wrong about that because every country has homophobes not just canada.
I agree with #3's post - Prezzie - PLEASE pay attention to your storyline headers - we in Canada absolutely do NOT condone this behavior but you definately make it sound like it's Canada's fault……do you not remember the AMERICAN'S who killed Matt Shepperd???
Please just pay attention - and to the asshole who did that - you are gonna get what's coming - karma as they say is a BITCH….
Re: Moniker – What would you know? Harper is the best prime minister we have had in a loong time! All the liberal party did was over tax us and then pocket all the money, turn our prisons and courtrooms into jokes and open the floodgates on immigration! Thanks to Harper, Canada doesnt have to worry as much about a failing world economy and has actually the best banking system in the world right now. So how about you worry about your own country and leave the intelligent people to worry about Canada.
Hey Perez, you're right. It does suck. But as a Canadian, I can tell you and your readers that this shit is unusual. And this dumb fuck could be from anywhere, not Just Canada! Wasn't it Cali. that just banned gay marriage, after all? We allow it. So fuck off. We're more likely to attend a gay marriage than spit on lesbians.
this is just unacceptable!
the police need to realize that this is more than they are charging the stupid fuck for! if i was ever attacked just because i am in love with a woman i would fight untill i won!
Re: SugarSpunSister – I'm not judging all canadians by two people, take a chill pill! And I'm not speaking for anyone but myself. There's not enough room here for me to write a full novella on all the homophobes I've met in the US & Canada (and there's been many unfortunately), I just used those two winners as an example of the people I encountered during my time there. They were borderline violent homophobes and probably would have crossed that border with a bit too much beer in 'em. I was just trying to make the point that while the govt is seemingly liberal on the topic of gay marriage & the like, there are still many many people even in "liberal" cities like Toronto who are still backwards thinking. I'm not trying to imply that all canadians are like that, just that it's not surprising that people like that exist there in the seemingly gay-friendly Canada or anywhere else - it's disgusting and wrong, but just not surprising.
you guys are all kidding right?
I was raised in Oshawa, yes there is bad areas just like any other city. You think that this one thing in Canada makes every other Canadian bad? NO
You think that Canada is such a bad place to live and all this shit happens here. NO
Think about this, how many time do you hear about a shoot in your local neighbourhood in the usa? How many of your fellow americans walk around with GUNS, more shit happens in the usa then Canada in the past 5 years. Come on leave us alone, yes this one ass hole did a TERRIBLE thing but why do we all have to pay for it. Have some sympathy for the family that was hurt and the kids that saw this terrible thing.
Please
well this is quite embarrassing.
i live 5 minutes from where this happened.
oshawa is kind of the "rough" part of durham region, so it's not really unexpected that this happened.
but for him to beat two woman because of who they are.
that pisses me off.
it's really too bad this happened.
Re: Blueyz133 – um, I'm actually an american, so I'm not dissing my own country. (I've been known to do so, but just not in that post! )
As I said before, I am just trying to say that just because a country allows for gay marriages it doesn't mean that gay rights are supported by the citizens. Civil rights laws were passed here in the US before they had the popular support of US citizens, and that seems to be the case with gay marriage/rights in Canada with the people I've come across. The majority of people I encountered were homophobic to some degree, some more than others. I'm not saying they'd all jump a lesbian or a gay guy just for shiggles, just making the point that sometimes the government (here & in Canada) is ahead of the majority of its citizens when it comes to civil rights legislation…
i wonder what provoked the attack. You have to look at both sides of the coin, because people just dont attack other people for no reason and risk prison time.
this so called man clearly wasn't thinking about ANYONE. what he did to the two ladies is sickening, and i can't even imagine what their child felt witnessing this attack..and what about HIS kid??? how is HIS kid ever going to be treated or looked at the same way at this school again. Because of his stupid father, this kid will be labelled a hater and quite possibly abused himself.
sad all around for everyone, except the father who hopefully finds his ass in jail or get's his ass kicked late one night…he'll get his.
Most Canadians are not this way. I live 10 minutes from Oshawa and I can tell you that this is not a regular occurence. Our neighbours are gay and everyone loves them, no one has ever made them feel unwelcome. It's really sad to hear that happened so close to home, I really can't believe it because people in this area are generally very accepting.
Re: breakage – I don't think there's anything that could have "provoked" or warranted an attack like this. The article does reference that the brainiac came at the ladies saying something like "which one of you talked to my boy?!" (like he would catch "the gay" from them or something?!) and it doesn't really go into what preceded it.
@ CanadianCutie9, I don't think that the majority of canadians are like this guy. He's the worst of the worst homophobes. And I'm encouraged to hear your community is forward thinking and accepting. But in my very short time in Canada, I encountered more homophobes than those who were accepting of gays…the caveat would the U of T folks who like most edumacated types are a bit more liberal. Same thing applied to Phoenix, AZ - most people outside of the ASU community were highly homophobic and backwards thinking and bigoted in many ways. (I lived there for 9 years so I got a good [or rather bad] taste for what the "tolerance" levels there were.) Unfortunately, there's arseholes everywhere, regardless of country/nationality/region.
The article clearly implies that this beef was actually about something else. He is quoted as saying 'which one of you two @%$*! spoke to my kid…', plus the article states that they have previously tussled over a parking spot. He knew they were gay, and in his anger threw in the gay slurs. Along with his fists. It's easy to hang this on the anti-gay faction for pro gay points, but this was premeditated on other issues. It's pretty clear that this guy is just not good with people, period. He can learn how to verbally communicate effectively in court and then perhaps can learn not to assault people to make your point in jail. It looks to be a steep learning curve for him…
Perez You are an IDIOT why would you say Dear Canada this sucks what about Dear The Town of Oshawa Ontario, this sucks. And does EVERY damn story you have latetly have to be with gay/lesbians??? there are other more important issues in the world that you can focuss on like say TODAY IS REMEMBERANCE DAY??????????? Anyways I have no problem with gays, bu the tittle is just..stupid.
Re: Sweetiepie – Ha! I just LOVE how this story is completely one-sided. I'm sure he handled this VERY VERY poorly, but I'll bet my bottom dollar that that woman and her partner said something to him or his child. No one is stupid enough to go after a lesbian couple because they "feel like it". There are always two sides to a story, and this story is NOT being fair to the other man at all, no matter how big of an ass he is.
yeah that shit happens everywhere not just canada- we let people get married and live happy lives on the majority- one guy who by the way was stopped by onlookers was arrested not let go so Fuck off with the bipartisan shit–stop trying to make our beautiful country of decent people look terrible compared to your country that has more intollerance–in your country people go free after they murder people and cops bash black people and vote for prop 8–
hokayyy. you cant blame the whole country. comee onn. this is the shwaa we are talking about. the only thing they have going for them is the generals… and even they are not too hot this season.. DZ
Dear Perez, I am Canadian and to be honest I hate when you put these "Dear Canada" posts up. This isn't Canada's fault this is some ignorant little fuck's fault who doesn't believe in equality. America is more against gays that Canada is by a long shot seeing as everyone from the states comes to Canada to get married. Please at least change the title of these posts cuz it makes us look ridiculous. We need equality it is our right.
This is sad, this community is very close to whee I live and I cannot believe that it happened. It is also sad that one idiot can cause so much harm to what is a normally accepting community.
Fuck, Perez, one asshole in the country does it and you try to blame all of us? Shame on you. You should know better since you are always talking about how much you love Canada.
Canada is a country of peace but it isn't perfect
i'm sure there are many hate crimes just like this all over america
it shows something that this story was posted- it's still considered rare enough to be an outrage
Perez, please don't BLAME CANADA for the actions of that idiot - you idiot! Blame the homophobes of the world, not just one country, MY country, where at least gays can legally marry :-p
If what these women are saying is 100% truthful, then clearly and without any doubt, his man committed a violent hate crime. Luckily, there are witnesses to this incident. I'll be surprised the Crown Attorney doesn't proceed with greater charges.
Damn that is fucked up! What is that guys problem?!! I cant stand people who hate on others just because their lifestyle isnt one they would necessarily live. People need to grow up!
Re: LettyB – Bullshit. War did not give anyone gay rights. Activists did. People frighting for justice did. With that said, this is a clear hate crime, and should be treated as such. And its Oshawa - its damn backwards there.
Re: Elrania – You're clearly an idiot. If Harper had of been around when equal marriage was an issue, we would never have equal marriage. Go back to Alburta, home of the red necks and Jebus Fish lovers. Please, just go.
The snowbirds all claim that Canadians are 'more educated' than the rest of the world, yet the crime rate in Canada is higher than the U.S.! This is a matter of public record. Snowbirds are no more 'tolerant' than other bigoted morons around the world. Just take a trip to Palm Springs this time of year and listen to these morons from the frozen North talking about what intellectual giants they are. Hypocrites!
Oh come on Perez, you can't blame all of Canada for this.
What that guy did was totally unacceptable and disgusting.
Not all of Canada is like this.
Stuff like this happens everywhere, in every country.
Ouch, Perez.
I live just outside of Oshawa.
My best friend since the second grade is a lesbian.
Usually I come on here and am like "Yes Perez you make my life."
But no, not cool. Generalizations hurt.
It's really nice that you put this story up in the first place, but the delivery is all wrong. It's not my fault some hick hasn't decided to evolve yet. Just like it's not your fault that Sarah Palin was alowed to run for vice president.
Also, number 149 why don't you google world crime rates.
The US are #24.
Canada is #44.
Yet my country is full of hypocrites.
Your just jealous ’cause the cubans still won't let you in.
ALSO.
in canada we legalized gay marriage.
so why are you hating on us, meanwhile america took your whole right off the constitution.
of course were not proud of people like this. They're sick and twisted. but they exist everywhere.
Hey Perez..as a Canadian all I want to say is that not all of Canada is a homophobe. If I could have voted for Prop 8 I would have voted no. Please for the sake of nice Canadian don't bunch us all in as a group of hate mongers. As for Prop 8…I hope it will not be passed. You deserve equality just as much as anybody else. Peace out from Canada!!
as a Canadian, I'm utterly ashamed. that story was heart breaking.
I think it would have been more appropriate to title this item: Dear Mark (place blame squarley on the arsehole himself). Dear Canada implies that this type of horrendous behaviour is cool on this side of the border. It ain't! The guy is a dick head…before he's a Canadian!
I love how this was pinpointed in Canada for the one attack in the span of several months that has happened.. but then You never pinpoint the weekly Homosexual attacks and Hate Crimes that occur in the US everyday.
Love to see how many "USA: This Sucks" there would be. hahaha, it would be endless!
When someone says something bad about a hmomsexual it's awful, but when a homosexual says something badabout us it's overlooked. Like when Ellen Degeneres made fun of my province.
what province do u live in? what did she say?
As a canadian myself, im appalled that guy would those women just because of their orientation. By the way, to those people who are saying thats its canadas fault, ur wrong about that because every country has homophobes not just canada.
Man he is from Oshawa! Oshawa is like bum fuck nowhere town where white trash live.
Re: Obama says YES on 8 – You're one of the ignorant people that is wrong with this world. Go crawl back into your hole and dont come out this time.
I agree with #3's post - Prezzie - PLEASE pay attention to your storyline headers - we in Canada absolutely do NOT condone this behavior but you definately make it sound like it's Canada's fault……do you not remember the AMERICAN'S who killed Matt Shepperd???
Please just pay attention - and to the asshole who did that - you are gonna get what's coming - karma as they say is a BITCH….
Re: Moniker – What would you know? Harper is the best prime minister we have had in a loong time! All the liberal party did was over tax us and then pocket all the money, turn our prisons and courtrooms into jokes and open the floodgates on immigration! Thanks to Harper, Canada doesnt have to worry as much about a failing world economy and has actually the best banking system in the world right now. So how about you worry about your own country and leave the intelligent people to worry about Canada.
Hey Perez, you're right. It does suck. But as a Canadian, I can tell you and your readers that this shit is unusual. And this dumb fuck could be from anywhere, not Just Canada! Wasn't it Cali. that just banned gay marriage, after all? We allow it. So fuck off. We're more likely to attend a gay marriage than spit on lesbians.
this is just unacceptable!
the police need to realize that this is more than they are charging the stupid fuck for! if i was ever attacked just because i am in love with a woman i would fight untill i won!
Re: SugarSpunSister – I'm not judging all canadians by two people, take a chill pill! And I'm not speaking for anyone but myself. There's not enough room here for me to write a full novella on all the homophobes I've met in the US & Canada (and there's been many unfortunately), I just used those two winners as an example of the people I encountered during my time there. They were borderline violent homophobes and probably would have crossed that border with a bit too much beer in 'em. I was just trying to make the point that while the govt is seemingly liberal on the topic of gay marriage & the like, there are still many many people even in "liberal" cities like Toronto who are still backwards thinking. I'm not trying to imply that all canadians are like that, just that it's not surprising that people like that exist there in the seemingly gay-friendly Canada or anywhere else - it's disgusting and wrong, but just not surprising.
you guys are all kidding right?
I was raised in Oshawa, yes there is bad areas just like any other city. You think that this one thing in Canada makes every other Canadian bad? NO
You think that Canada is such a bad place to live and all this shit happens here. NO
Think about this, how many time do you hear about a shoot in your local neighbourhood in the usa? How many of your fellow americans walk around with GUNS, more shit happens in the usa then Canada in the past 5 years. Come on leave us alone, yes this one ass hole did a TERRIBLE thing but why do we all have to pay for it. Have some sympathy for the family that was hurt and the kids that saw this terrible thing.
Please
well this is quite embarrassing.
i live 5 minutes from where this happened.
oshawa is kind of the "rough" part of durham region, so it's not really unexpected that this happened.
but for him to beat two woman because of who they are.
that pisses me off.
it's really too bad this happened.
people suck.
Re: Blueyz133 – um, I'm actually an american, so I'm not dissing my own country. (I've been known to do so, but just not in that post! )
As I said before, I am just trying to say that just because a country allows for gay marriages it doesn't mean that gay rights are supported by the citizens. Civil rights laws were passed here in the US before they had the popular support of US citizens, and that seems to be the case with gay marriage/rights in Canada with the people I've come across. The majority of people I encountered were homophobic to some degree, some more than others. I'm not saying they'd all jump a lesbian or a gay guy just for shiggles, just making the point that sometimes the government (here & in Canada) is ahead of the majority of its citizens when it comes to civil rights legislation…
i wonder what provoked the attack. You have to look at both sides of the coin, because people just dont attack other people for no reason and risk prison time.
Im guessing theres more to the story, much more
..and another thing: what kind of man beats up a woman,anyway?
this so called man clearly wasn't thinking about ANYONE. what he did to the two ladies is sickening, and i can't even imagine what their child felt witnessing this attack..and what about HIS kid??? how is HIS kid ever going to be treated or looked at the same way at this school again. Because of his stupid father, this kid will be labelled a hater and quite possibly abused himself.
sad all around for everyone, except the father who hopefully finds his ass in jail or get's his ass kicked late one night…he'll get his.
Most Canadians are not this way. I live 10 minutes from Oshawa and I can tell you that this is not a regular occurence. Our neighbours are gay and everyone loves them, no one has ever made them feel unwelcome. It's really sad to hear that happened so close to home, I really can't believe it because people in this area are generally very accepting.
…and another thing: what kind of a man hits women,anyway?What a skeez!
It's Oshawa for fuck sake. I live about an hour outside of it and it's full of disgusting, backward people.
People who are "forward thinking" are either passing through, or don't live there for long.
It's not right. Let's hope they track this fucker down.
Re: breakage – I don't think there's anything that could have "provoked" or warranted an attack like this. The article does reference that the brainiac came at the ladies saying something like "which one of you talked to my boy?!" (like he would catch "the gay" from them or something?!) and it doesn't really go into what preceded it.
@ CanadianCutie9, I don't think that the majority of canadians are like this guy. He's the worst of the worst homophobes. And I'm encouraged to hear your community is forward thinking and accepting. But in my very short time in Canada, I encountered more homophobes than those who were accepting of gays…the caveat would the U of T folks who like most edumacated types are a bit more liberal. Same thing applied to Phoenix, AZ - most people outside of the ASU community were highly homophobic and backwards thinking and bigoted in many ways. (I lived there for 9 years so I got a good [or rather bad] taste for what the "tolerance" levels there were.) Unfortunately, there's arseholes everywhere, regardless of country/nationality/region.
The article clearly implies that this beef was actually about something else. He is quoted as saying 'which one of you two @%$*! spoke to my kid…', plus the article states that they have previously tussled over a parking spot. He knew they were gay, and in his anger threw in the gay slurs. Along with his fists. It's easy to hang this on the anti-gay faction for pro gay points, but this was premeditated on other issues. It's pretty clear that this guy is just not good with people, period. He can learn how to verbally communicate effectively in court and then perhaps can learn not to assault people to make your point in jail. It looks to be a steep learning curve for him…
Perez You are an IDIOT why would you say Dear Canada this sucks what about Dear The Town of Oshawa Ontario, this sucks. And does EVERY damn story you have latetly have to be with gay/lesbians??? there are other more important issues in the world that you can focuss on like say TODAY IS REMEMBERANCE DAY??????????? Anyways I have no problem with gays, bu the tittle is just..stupid.
Re: Sweetiepie – Ha! I just LOVE how this story is completely one-sided. I'm sure he handled this VERY VERY poorly, but I'll bet my bottom dollar that that woman and her partner said something to him or his child. No one is stupid enough to go after a lesbian couple because they "feel like it". There are always two sides to a story, and this story is NOT being fair to the other man at all, no matter how big of an ass he is.
yeah that shit happens everywhere not just canada- we let people get married and live happy lives on the majority- one guy who by the way was stopped by onlookers was arrested not let go so Fuck off with the bipartisan shit–stop trying to make our beautiful country of decent people look terrible compared to your country that has more intollerance–in your country people go free after they murder people and cops bash black people and vote for prop 8–
Honestly dude? Slamming an entire country for one incident? You don't see us blaming the US for the Westboro Baptist Church or the KKK do you?
hokayyy. you cant blame the whole country. comee onn. this is the shwaa we are talking about. the only thing they have going for them is the generals… and even they are not too hot this season.. DZ
Hey, at least gays and lesbians can get married in this country and have had that right since 2001!
Please don't blame my whole country for 1 idiot…we don't blame all of you for George W do we???????
ALSO>>>>>we have no Prop 8 here that says it all
Oh my gosh I never even heard of this and I live in the Durham region =( this is so sad. How dare he hurt them like that!
Dear Perez, I am Canadian and to be honest I hate when you put these "Dear Canada" posts up. This isn't Canada's fault this is some ignorant little fuck's fault who doesn't believe in equality. America is more against gays that Canada is by a long shot seeing as everyone from the states comes to Canada to get married. Please at least change the title of these posts cuz it makes us look ridiculous. We need equality it is our right.
This is sad, this community is very close to whee I live and I cannot believe that it happened. It is also sad that one idiot can cause so much harm to what is a normally accepting community.
I live in Toronto and was gay bashed 2 times in the pass 2 weeks. It's time of Change????? Interesting
Fuck, Perez, one asshole in the country does it and you try to blame all of us? Shame on you. You should know better since you are always talking about how much you love Canada.
Canada is a country of peace but it isn't perfect
i'm sure there are many hate crimes just like this all over america
it shows something that this story was posted- it's still considered rare enough to be an outrage
Perez, please don't BLAME CANADA for the actions of that idiot - you idiot! Blame the homophobes of the world, not just one country, MY country, where at least gays can legally marry :-p
As a woman who lives in oshawa, on. I am disgusted. This is such a horrible and dumb crime. its 2008 people, figure it out and grow up.
Ignorance is a fascinating thing…. I hope that guy has his face mesh with the concrete floors in jail.
If what these women are saying is 100% truthful, then clearly and without any doubt, his man committed a violent hate crime. Luckily, there are witnesses to this incident. I'll be surprised the Crown Attorney doesn't proceed with greater charges.
Damn that is fucked up! What is that guys problem?!! I cant stand people who hate on others just because their lifestyle isnt one they would necessarily live. People need to grow up!
Re: LettyB – Bullshit. War did not give anyone gay rights. Activists did. People frighting for justice did. With that said, this is a clear hate crime, and should be treated as such. And its Oshawa - its damn backwards there.
Re: Elrania – You're clearly an idiot. If Harper had of been around when equal marriage was an issue, we would never have equal marriage. Go back to Alburta, home of the red necks and Jebus Fish lovers. Please, just go.
Re: skrpune – Actually, Eqaul Marriage and gay rights ARE supported by a vast majority of Canadians. Now go try to read some books.
perez…i think you are stupid
The snowbirds all claim that Canadians are 'more educated' than the rest of the world, yet the crime rate in Canada is higher than the U.S.! This is a matter of public record. Snowbirds are no more 'tolerant' than other bigoted morons around the world. Just take a trip to Palm Springs this time of year and listen to these morons from the frozen North talking about what intellectual giants they are. Hypocrites!
It's funny that they gave out his name at the end of the article, lol.
Oh come on Perez, you can't blame all of Canada for this.
What that guy did was totally unacceptable and disgusting.
Not all of Canada is like this.
Stuff like this happens everywhere, in every country.
No way. I bet the guy who did that is gay himself. You know, like what the guy on American Beauty did.
It sucks a lot. I never thought something like this would happen here. The guy who did it is a HUGE disgrace to Canada and the rest of the world.
Ouch, Perez.
I live just outside of Oshawa.
My best friend since the second grade is a lesbian.
Usually I come on here and am like "Yes Perez you make my life."
But no, not cool. Generalizations hurt.
It's really nice that you put this story up in the first place, but the delivery is all wrong. It's not my fault some hick hasn't decided to evolve yet. Just like it's not your fault that Sarah Palin was alowed to run for vice president.
Also, number 149 why don't you google world crime rates.
The US are #24.
Canada is #44.
Yet my country is full of hypocrites.
Your just jealous ’cause the cubans still won't let you in.
ALSO.
in canada we legalized gay marriage.
so why are you hating on us, meanwhile america took your whole right off the constitution.
of course were not proud of people like this. They're sick and twisted. but they exist everywhere.