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More Lies From The View

Filed under: TV News > Elizabitch Hasselbeck > Whoopi Goldberg

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Seriously, Elizabitch Hasselbeck and Sherri Shepherd should try reading some facts before spilling lies from their mouth!!!!!

As we mentioned before, Elizabitch LIED to the entire country when she said that California's Proposition 8, to ban gay marriages, would mean that religious leaders could go to jail for refusing to perform a same sex marriage.

NOT TRUE!

That then caused the "god worshiping" Sherri to make her own comments. She said, "I don't want to know that my pastor — because, you know, the church is preaching against homosexuality, and I don't want to know that my pastor could be jailed."

Well, we guess God doesn't want gay couples that love each other to get married, but he's ok with Sherri sleeping around before getting married right? Oh, and we guess God is ok with Sherri having had abortions in the past as well!

And it seems like Elizabitch and Sherri are still trying to brainwash people into thinking something false about Proposition 8 as they continue to bring up the lie that it affects religious groups.

Oh, and Elizabitch has said many times already that Proposition 8 passed by a majority of 62%. Someone should tell her to fact check. According to the California Secretary of State's office, the prop for hate passed with only 52.3% of the vote.

At least Whoopi pointed out the obvious and said, "It is unfortunate that people used not-honest things to go about it, because if the fear — if people put fear into people and made them believe things that weren't true, that's not how you want somebody to vote. You want them to vote the truth, and you want them to vote their heart."

Yes!

Thank goodness Whoopi is on the show.

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247 comments to “More Lies From The View

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  1. 101

    I can't tell if this is you or your Ghost writer Perez. Usually, you use more exclamation points. Maybe you're just not in an exclamation mark mood. Or your 1 key on your keyboard doesn't work. Meh.



  2. 102

    I hate them both. I wish someone would throw all of them on an island together and let them kill each other.



  3. 103

    The Court System will ultimately decide the constitutionality of whether or not it is even "constitutional" to put such a proposition to vote.
    Humans are innately hateful of all things "other", all things not understood, all things "foreign" to their world. There are some things that just should NOT be decided by voting. No idiot would consider putting it to a vote What Is The Official Religion Of The U.S.A.
    Or maybe some idiot would. But it would never happen. Because the U.S.A. is founded on tolerance. Voting for Intolerance, even by the "majority", is destined to fail. As is the eventual case here.
    That's what wiser and fairer judges and courts are for.



  4. 104

    you are such a dick
    how dare you make comments like that about someone having abortions when you are trying to get something passed that is just as bad.



  5. 105

    I know Miss Walters needs "Views" from all points but her choice with Elizabeth still amazes me. Who is she? I respect her conservative views but she goes overboard and thats my view.



  6. 106

    your suppose to stand up for the truth, especially preachers. Blacks stood up strong to everyone.



  7. 107

    The voters spoke and Prop 8 passed….enough is enough. You don't see people protesting on the streets about Obama getting elected. That's life…it's not always fair to everyone. And, regarding Sherri and her abortions and sex before marriage. All you have to do is ask for forgiveness for your sins and you shall be forgiven.



  8. 108

    elizabeyotch is a person of very little quality.



  9. 109

    sherry is as dumb as a box of hair!



  10. 110

    Re: SheriMoonZombie – I second that! These yes on 8 fucking hypocrites, lie, cheat, abort, and fornicate. Who is to throw the first stone fuckers?



  11. 111

    Re: Poppa Art
    Well said



  12. 112

    Re: smc1977 – The court system will rule that a "proposition 8" and the voting for/against thereof….are both unconstitutional.
    I hate to be the one to tell you.
    But courts overturn items every year, that were voted on, that should never have been put before a vote.
    It may take a while, but you better use the time wisely to prepare yourself for the inevitability.



  13. 113

    Re: Pig_Nasty – hi piggie……i voted you most improved on the perrezies



  14. 114

    Re: thatisnothot
    they are upset because this issue should not have been put up for a vote. it is unconstitutional.



  15. 115

    Marriage of gays and lesbians is NOT a religious question but a secular one. Religion has NO PLACE in the classroom nor in politics. People should be allowed to marry and divorce whom they like. No church or religious institution would be forced by our gov't to perform ANY ceremony that goes against their beliefs ( again, seperation of church and state) AThiests for example ( most) get married by a judge. The union does not have to be called marriage but it should carry the same rights and securities as marriage does.



  16. 116

    at least you threw Sherri under the bus and not just Elizabeth….



  17. 117

    Re: MINXLIVES – heya!
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    .
    ……your right that the gov't can't force the churches to perform the weddings…….but you can't say that intimidation tactics are in play already…….look at that little old lady today……………..what thugs



  18. 118

    Elizabeth and Sherri should do their own research and do their own thinking instead of repeating what others say like a parrot.



  19. 119

    You realize that Obama only won with 52% of the vote, yet this is a good thing and Prop 8 passing isn't fair? Do the people really have no say anymore? Let the vote speak for itself.



  20. 120

    Re: mamajud
    Hey you!
    Wat little old lady and what intimadation? The only ruling I know of in regards to church and state is the seperation of church and state and that churches lose their tax exemption once they become politicall involved because they are violating seperation of church and state. How's your day?



  21. 121

    Never watched the show, and this is why. /: Can't stand idiots like that.



  22. 122

    Re: MINXLIVES – day was good
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    look up youtube about an old lady roughed up by h8te protesters b/c she dared to be a voice of opposition
    .
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    i'm off now to catch top chef……..smiles!



  23. 123

    Re: knowitall – Genisis you ignorant white trash bigot,plenty of churches and jewish temples are willing to marry gay people,so now the fascist state,big brother is stopping it from happening ,because a slight majority of bigots decided gay people are sub-human. REPUBLICANS,MORMONS AND GHETTO BLACKS ARE ALL BIGOTS
    *
    Huh?
    Try typing that legibly next time.
    While I attempt to decipher your message, crude as it may be — actually, I'm not even going to bother. Yes, gays are sub-human, that's correct. Go live in a sewer, f*cktard.



  24. 124

    PS, It's really entertaining to watch people call me an uneducated bigot from a KKK backwater community or whatever buddy's trying to say there when I have to take an Advil before reading the post so I don't get a headache from the grade two writing skills.
    Sigh.



  25. 125

    Well, I just LOVE Elisabeth Hasselbeck.
    I just think she's the smartest woman I've ever heard.
    Everything she says makes 100% total sense.
    What an intelligent, sophisticated, sensible — not to mention gorgeous — example of a perfect modern woman.
    What style and class!
    Love.
    *
    Sits back and watches…



  26. 126

    Re: mamajud
    Post 125
    Well you're right people are entitled to their opinions, I just expressed mine but no one should she subjected to any type of hate crime b/c we disagree w/ each other. Still thoughseperation of church and state exist for a reason and like I said the word doesn'thave to be marriage but gays should have the same securities as married couples. As one of my students said to me in class today, If God was all knowing, omnipotent and infallible why did he create gay people, If God was smart he would have avoided creating things he didn't like to begin w/. Now I'm a beleiver so I said "thank free will" (that's if you believe being gay is a CHOICE instead of something someone is BORN w/) I'm still debating that one in my head ;)



  27. 127

    How could them lie to people like that???? Gay marriage is a civil issue, not a religious one. I am catholic and i am pro gay wedding because i believe that we all are God´s children. I don´t think that never will be a gay wedding in a catholic church and government never could force any church to celebrate a gay wedding, but gay people only need a wedding in city hall that allow them to share their lifes, protect their rights and to be equal before the law like any other heterosexual couple that can love each other, adopt children and in case of death of the couple or divorce don´t get unprotected.



  28. 128

    re:tinye65

    Are you Catholic? Seems as though you are making a presumption about their beliefs. Catholics do not reject homosexuals…they simply do not condone ANY sexual act before marriage. Gays and Lesbians can be a part of the Catholic Church but should not be sexually active. For good or bad these are the facts.

    Perez God is love-stop spreading H8te.



  29. 129

    "You want them to vote the truth, and you want them to vote their heart."

    Exactly. If they believe that the truth is that gay marriage is not supposed to be, and that's in their heart, then they should vote that. Freedom to VOTE HOW WE WANT. It's democracy whether you like it or not.
    Fuck you perez.



  30. 130

    Re: herekittykitty

    have you ever met long-term gay partners that weren't sexually active?

    oh, neither have i.



  31. 131

    Re: Millie05 – Hey Millie. It isn't a good idea to form your opinions based on one incident like that. Sure, what they did to protest wasn't right. But those people don't reflect the entire gay community. It's people like that who give them a bad image. You can't just think of people in terms of groups, lumping them all into one category. And just because polls say a lot of blacks voted for prop 8, that doesn't mean people should start protesting a group of people because they are black and voted yes.

    Put all that stuff aside and think about the issue itself, without prejudice.



  32. 132

    Re: amm5321

    No-really not the point. Most heterosexual couples engage in premarital sex as well. Just stating a few facts about Catholics.



  33. 133

    Re: CrazyBeautiful84 – But they are being discriminated against! It doesn't matter what the "people" want. I sure do not remember having a VOTE on not using the word N I G G E R , yet if you use it, people think they are being discriminated against. Some things do not require a vote from the general public because the are so stupid like yourself.



  34. 134

    But it's ok for the liberal media to totally distort the truth to get Obama elected? Stop being so hypocritical. And, I am sick of hearing about Prop 8. Move on already.



  35. 135

    I love Sherri, even though she aborted our baby 10 years ago. Atleast I don't have to pay child support!

  36. peeps says – reply to this


    136

    just met whoopi at the 8 demo in NY,go girl!out and proud-let's see what she says tmw..



  37. 137

    DROP THE WORD "MARRIAGE" AND I'M SURE IT WILL PASS. LET THE CHRISTIANS OWN THE WORD "MARRIAGE" FOR GOD SAKES.



  38. 138

    Re: kamek-the-evil-magikoopa – What bothers me is that you dont see that on the other side. It is not just me but a lot of people are angered by this. I dont hear anyone from the gay community standing up and denouncing this. Anyone with a heart would watch that video and be angered. As for the black church, WHY aren't they protesting it??? It's a fact that black people made the difference on Prop 8 because such a large margin voted YES. They are only protesting the Mormon church. They are SCARED because they know black people wouldn't put up with the shit that happened to that poor old lady. TO ALL THE GAY PEOPLE AND GAY ACTIVISTS: You are going to turn even more people away from your cause and against you if this continues. It's not the fact that you're protesting..it's WHERE you're protesting and HOW you're protesting. 92% of Americans believe in God and have some form of religion in their lives so if this continues it will be BAD. I consider myself fair and caring but this makes me ANGRY and so are a lot of other people.



  39. 139

    its about time you move on…we voted the prop lost, get over it. JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE IGNORANT COMMENTS BEING MADE BY "RELIGIOUS" PEOPLE DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO LABEL ALL PEOPLE OF FAITH, OR THEREFORE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE PEOPLE. Facts are that prop would give the right to teach our children about homosexuality. School is not the place for it. if children can't learn about GOD in school, then why should they be allowed to learn about being gay in school? it works both ways. What really upset me about supporters of "No on 8" is that they were comparing it to the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, shame on u! there is NO comparison at all!!!! THAT IS IGNORANCE AND TOTAL DISRESPECT.



  40. 140

    Re: BrnEyedGirlCA – I AGREE, YOU'RE SOOOOOO RIGHT!!!! MOVE ON PEOPLE.



  41. 141

    I think allowing proposition eight goes against exactly what america stands for. first of all religion is not suppose to dictait our laws. the definition of marriage that everyone is refering to that they feel shouldnt be changed is one the religion defined. not one that our goverment defined until recently. two people that love eachother should be able to marry why should gay people have less rights than any other citizen they pay the same texes that all of us pay right?. proposition 8 was passed because ppl didnt have their fact straight (no pun intended), and out of fear. at one time it was illegal for black and white ppl to get married and that was another ridiculous decision made because of fear. i say that is should be up to the churches wether they want to marry a gay couple or not. not up to our goverment!

  42. elo says – reply to this


    142

    I think it's funny that so few people understood that there would be Federal and Civil consequences should same sex couples be allowed to marry. If same sex unions are recognized as marriages then refusing to perform a marriage on that criteria would then be considered discrimination and yes, the Gay and Lesbian Associations are no strangers to litigation. Some times I think people forget that the Federal Government can jail a physician for refusing to perform an abortion or provide a referral and that California is suing the federal government over the Weldon Amendment. It's almost as though if people pretend Abortion as an issue is settled and the gay question has been answered.



  43. 143

    Re: obrienation – and this type of anger and throwing insults all around is why people from the other side can't take you seriously and thus you are indirectly causing people who are against to harden their anti gay views you are correct this is perez's site but instead of fighting hate with hate how about trying your best to educate others on this issue i am from CT and I am proud to say that just today we have allowed homosexuals to marry it was amazing seeing the couples on tv and who would've thought Ct would be so open minded lol



  44. 144

    im tired of fucking dumbass religious zealots trying to impose they're beliefs on everyone…like get the hell over it Tom and Bill marrying on another is not going to make your marriage any less special, marriage is a civil contract people make it into a spiritual one if they choose, but at the basis marriage is a way to establish a bound which is recognized by the governemnt…no gay is asking for preachers to be forced to marry them off so fuck off you dumbasses keep your beliefs to yourself k thanks bye



  45. 145

    Re: ashaaley – Your an idiot, what episode were you watching because I saw the complete opposite



  46. 146

    PLEASE PEREZ STOP, STOP….The mayority of people in California voted against Gay marriage. This is a democracy and the majority of people decide the outcome of any elections.- I voted McCain and now I have to see Michelle Orangutan Obama in the White House…Now, that is a travesty.- Stop winning…



  47. 147

    QUESTION: Straight couples have civil unions daily at court houses across this country, correct? Umm, yes. I have read many posts and many say keep religion out of it….you can't when the word "marriage" is involved.
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    why try and force "churches" to accept you of you want them to not have a say??? Why not have a civil union, as many straights do, and be married that way? Why the push for church involvement?…but then you bash Mormons and other churches? I don't get it! You Gays make no fucken sense! How is a civil union not EQUAL RIGHTS? Straight people do it all the time…you fuckers just want attention



  48. 148

    Elizabeth is a hateful bitch that is constantly spewing hatred…she never makes any sense and she constantly has to be corrected, anyone who supports her obviously lacks brain cells



  49. 149

    Both of them are brainwashed in their tiny brain cells by religion. Religion does these wierd things to people. How ignorant of them and such foooools! A black and white attention seeking republican trash !



  50. 150

    Don't forget to CALL THE ADVERTISERS here on this site and tell them you're going to BOYCOTT their business for advertising on this ridiculous, hate inspiring site, disguising itself as a gossip site. The time is ending for the media creating themselves into gods instead of serving their customers and reporting news…or in your case, gossip!



  51. 151

    You really need to study the Bible before you blab about God. Sherri has most likely asked for forgiveness and actually felt bad/sad about about the sins she's done. God forgives sins IF YOU ASK for FORGIVENESS And that you admit you have sinned, homosexuality is a sin and since nobody thinks its a sin..you aren't forgiven.



  52. 152

    Oh and somebody in Canada was actually fined for not marrying a gay couple. not all provinces in CAnada allow gay marriage.



  53. 153

    Since you consider yourself and believer in Christ. Then you would know since you of course study your Bible earnestly, these following passages which clearly state that being GAY is a SIN

    1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals

    Leviticus 18:22 is translated: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

    Rom 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."

  54. Celt says – reply to this


    154

    Most "religious" people live in glass house and LOVE to throw the stones! This right would effect only the people that wanted to be involved in it. If you don't agree with gay marriage, don't bloody well marry another man or a woman, that's YOUR right to choose that, but yet you would deny a gay man the right to marry someone he loves? That's not "doing unto others" God help these people that ruin other people's faith in You!



  55. 155

    I was wondering, marriage has been between a man and a woman for 100's of years so for the majority of people around the world, marriage by its definition would not include gay couples. I think its a matter of wording. Would a domestic partnership be offensive to the gay community? I believe that any gay couple that would legalize their marriage through a "domestic partnership" is certainly entitled to legal benefits that a married couple enjoys. I think a lot folks could agree on this. Just wondering.



  56. 156

    Millie05 says – reply to this 83All this protesting and church bashing has left a bad taste. I used to be neutral but I just saw gay activist protesters grabbing a cross from an old ladys arms and stomping on it and I am starting to HATE the gay community. THIS WILL backfire. Also, why aren't they protesting the black church? 73% of black people voted against gay marriage. Are they scared??? Why????
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    Yeah, the homos are real tough when it comes to picking on little old ladies, but the black community would kick their ass so hard they'd have a shitty taste in their mouth.
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  57. 157

    Fact: 75% of people have not gone to college
    Fact: 55% or more of our population is religious

    Reality: people don't realize that there should be a separation between church and state. Sure Christianity is cool but not everyone is. Futhermore, people that are zealot like pressing their man +woman bullshit only make GOD seem like a Elitist, Fascist, Xenophbe.

    DO NOT FORGET these are the people who are against abortion PRO LIFE and bomb abortion clinics?

    God loves everyone not just straight white people

  58. Celt says – reply to this


    158

    Re: bob1234
    Yes and in the old testament it was an eye for an eye until the new testament came along and forgiveness and love became the way of the light. Bob, the bible was written thousands of years ago, have been translated so many times and was not written by God but by HUMAN BEINGS. I know that faith is supposed to help you believe that this book is the word of God but study Martin Luther and the reason why he strayed from the Christian path and started Lutherism…the priests, cardinals and popes at the time were selling "the bones of Christ" to poor people to make money. They took advantage of the lack of knowledge and the amount of fear they could instill in these people and made profits off of it. The bible was written by MEN, so if you've never had a man lie to you for his own gain, than I'd say you're the only in this world where that's not the case.

  59. Celt says – reply to this


    159

    Re: Pig_Nasty
    What about the gays that have been beaten or murdered strictly because they are gay? Where's the equality in that? A women was beaten in Canada this week by a fully grown man because she was a lesbian. WHAT ABOUT THAT? An old lady got her cross stomped on?? Oh booo hooo! At least she didn't get punched in the face, spat on, stepped on, kicked, brutalized in front of her child strictly for carrying a cross.
    There's idiots on either side of the line but the point is…there shouldn't be a line. If you're allowed to live your life the way you choose as a straight individual why shouldn't EVERYONE else?



  60. 160

    President Elect Obama and vp elect Biden are AGAINST gay marriage. Why are you not upset with them???Elisabeth gave the example of the pastor in Denmark or Sweden that WAS JAILED for refusing to marry a gay couple. Perez, I voted in FL not to pass the amendment to make marriage between a man and woman only but it passed anyway. I pray. I love God. I also believe in America 2 people that want to marry should have the right to marry as long as they are at least 18 years old.



  61. 161

    Get over it already. As an American we vote to change things. When it doesn't move on….work for change again but accept the voters decision this time around.



  62. 162

    Re: knowitall – and name calling racists like you, perhaps?



  63. 163

    Let me tell you how it works Perez.

    God will forgive Sherri for sleeping around and having abortions is she turned from her sins (repented) and truely was sorry for them

    But most homosexuals do not turn from their sin, they continue to live outside the gates with the idolators, audulters, and the like. I don't make the rules.



  64. 164

    I would just love to hear what Whoopi has to say about Elizabich when she's talking in confidence to her closest friends. Whoopi is too smart and classy to be sucked into reacting and being snitty like Joy Behar and Rosie Odonnell over Elizabich's bullshit. I think Whoopi knows that Elizabich's days are numbered. Whoopi carries that show.
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  65. 165

    Re: NotQueerAtAll – I wrote to Martha Stewart, since she had Perez on, and told her to look at his site and the comments…they wrote me back saying she "didn't know perez was a hate monger"



  66. 166

    Its just like an unbeliever to bring up a person's past…once you ask God for forgiveness and you repent from your sins, Jesus doesn't remember them anymore. YOu have a clean slate, and homosexuality is a sin that is forgivable lke any sin and you can be delivered from it, its a spirit opression and thats all. Jesus himself in his Word says the devil will remind you your past but we are to remind him of his future.. So when you can't find anything else to say about two women who stand up for what they believe just like you do, you bring up past dirt but Perez, Jesus' word tells me that once we give our life to Christ, we are a new creation in his sight. not in perez hilton's mind or sight but in God the Father. So find a new angle.



  67. 167

    Mona_Lisa [168] says: I wrote to Martha Stewart, since she had Perez on, and told her to look at his site and the comments…they wrote me back saying she "didn't know perez was a hate monger"
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    Don't you find it kind of hard to believe that Martha Stewart has not been to this website hereself, or her staff not talking about how abusive he is to women and young girls? Unbelieveable that anyone in the entertainment industry could be that clueless about the biggest azzhole gossiper of the industry. I wouldn't believe anything Martha Stewart said anyway, even if the Pope vouched for her.
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  68. 168

    Nobody is saying that homos can't co-habitate, love and fornicate with other consenting adult homos, and having a marriage ceremony changes nothing about that relationship. Maybe you would like to accept 3-way marriages, 4-way marriages, sibling marriages, parent/adult child marriages. Bullshit ~ there is only one marriage in the human being scheme, and that is the marriage of one man and one woman who are pro-creating. Anyway, the whole purpose of marriage is to legitimize the offspring of that union. Coming together as one in nature is for a man to sperminate the woman's egg to create a life, and therefore, sustain humanity. For homos to demand the title of "married" is redundant.Re: Pig_Nasty

    (Mouth drops open) Now this is the version of you I like to see. That is one of the most succinct and cogent explanations of one's opposition I have ever read.



  69. 169

    watched this video, and all it does is prove that gays are unstable. The reason they are gay in the first place is because they have damaged transmitters and receptors in the brain, which are sending false signals. This kind of behaviour is typical of their ranting and drama.

    Re: Pig_Nasty

    Now this is a debate I can appreciate. Do you theorize that the damaged receptors are genetic or do you propose they are damaged in utero? I've always believe that homosexuality is a psychological reaction to some kind of traumatic life event that may have occurred at a young age. For female homosexuals perhaps it stems from experiencing some kind of sexual abuse which in turn creates serious trust issues with members of the opposite sex.



  70. 170

    Re: Pig_Nasty – Hey Porky, they haven't been on the site since the show, before the election, so they were not happy! Fuck off!



  71. 171

    I know Miss Walters needs "Views" from all points but her choice with Elizabeth still amazes me. Who is she? I respect her conservative views but she goes overboard and thats my view. Re: shortstop1065

    I think she's embarrassing to conservatives because she doesn't know how to adequately express her views and then she starts crying. I wish they would get a better conservative host. Hell, if they just made it even with 1 independent 2 conservatives and 2 liberals that would be truly fair and balanced.



  72. 172

    Cottonquinn [171] says: Nobody is saying that homos can't co-habitate, love and fornicate with other consenting adult homos, and having a marriage ceremony changes nothing about that relationship. Maybe you would like to accept 3-way marriages, 4-way marriages, sibling marriages, parent/adult child marriages. Bullshit ~ there is only one marriage in the human being scheme, and that is the marriage of one man and one woman who are pro-creating. Anyway, the whole purpose of marriage is to legitimize the offspring of that union. Coming together as one in nature is for a man to sperminate the woman's egg to create a life, and therefore, sustain humanity. For homos to demand the title of "married" is redundant.
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    Re: Pig_Nasty – (Mouth drops open) Now this is the version of you I like to see. That is one of the most succinct and cogent explanations of one's opposition I have ever read.
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    Thank you for noticing, Cottonquinn. And would you please also notice that there is nothing Hateful within that philosophy. It is common sense relating to the natural progression of the human condition, so the culture needs to stop with the accusations that opposition to gay marriage is based on Hate.
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  73. jrnpp says – reply to this


    173

    Perez
    Thanks for supplying those of us who don't watch "the view" the current juice.



  74. 174

    first of all religion is not suppose to dictait our lawsRe: corasmommy88

    Our laws against murder, lieing and stealing come from the Ten Commandments. I guess we need to start allowing these things now because people like you don't think we should use our religious values to help guide us in our decisions. According to so many others we can't legislate morality so I guess we should start allowing rape and pedophilia to go unchecked because aren't those moral issues? I am morally opposed to pedophilia but I guess that makes me a bigot using your questionable "logic".



  75. 175

    QUESTION: Straight couples have civil unions daily at court houses across this country, correct? Umm, yes. I have read many posts and many say keep religion out of it….you can't when the word "marriage" is involved.
    .
    .
    why try and force "churches" to accept you of you want them to not have a say??? Why not have a civil union, as many straights do, and be married that way? Why the push for church involvement?…but then you bash Mormons and other churches? I don't get it! You Gays make no fucken sense! How is a civil union not EQUAL RIGHTS? Straight people do it all the time…you fuckers just want attention Re: Mona_Lisa
    Exactly. The dictionary defines marriage as being between a man and a woman. Gays want to redefine that word. The definition of marriage would then have to be changed in the dictionary. That's why I have said that this is about the power to redefine a word and institution for the entire society as a whole.



  76. 176

    Cottonquinn [172] says: Now this is a debate I can appreciate. Do you theorize that the damaged receptors are genetic, or do you propose they are damaged in utero?
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    If medical science only knew the answer to that. I think it is safe to say that there is not one specific action that is the same root cause for every end result. The fact is that the human brain is a highly complicated and delicate organ that is manipulated to operate based on a very complex mixture of chemicals, which are naturally-produced based on mood, pain, environment and emotions of the human body. The fact that there are many similarities in individuals with gender-identity issues, including psysiological and physical, can be compared to, say, children with downs syndrome. Those children are like a specific dynamic, each similar in their deficiencies, but also to differing degrees of affect. Society has been educated to believe that homosexuality is nothing more than a life choice ~ and that is true ~ but it is the life choice only of individuals who have an unnatural inhibitor to the natural processes of a healthy, chemically-balanced brain. That is how they are able to function normally in other areas of their thought processes that are Not affected.
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    From a straight Christian Texas girl:
    Anyone in this country should be able to love, marry, procreate or have recreational sex with whomever they want. And, people should not have to tolerate gays, lesbians, transgenders, other races etc.–they should learn to co-exist peacefully, not just tolerate them. Toleration implies negativity towards whatever group is being discussed. Sadly, it probably won't happen in our lifetime. Keep talking about Perez. Keep it in the forefront of everyone's mind and good luck.

    "HIV/Aids is everyone's disease. Preach biology, not morality." Piratecookie



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    Mona_Lisa [173] says: Hey Porky, they haven't been on the site since the show, before the election, so they were not happy! Fuck off!
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    Perez didn't just turn into a hate-mongerer since Prop 8 ~ ya dizzy painting ~ he has been hating-mongering on women since Day 1 ~ ya dizzy painting. Go and draw on some eyebrows, ya look like Mona_Too_Much_Forehead. You should get some help with your anger problem too.
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    Re: Pig_Nasty – Wow, you really are a douche! "My" anger problem? Are you kidding? Porky, go back and read some of your prior posts…you're a nasty fat pig. How dare you judge me when you are so fucken filthy!!!



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    Re: Pig_Nasty – I said he turned into a hate mongerer since prop 8???…Really? when did I say this?…Or, did I say Martha and her staff haven't visited the site since the election??? Yeah, I thought so! get your facts straight you fucken pig! Don't ever try and put words in my mouth…SLOB!



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    Well looks like the republican trailer trash rednecks have found a common interest with the black ghetto uneducated set,hating and discriminating against gay people. Oh and when you win an election the margin that Obama won by which is an electoral college was huge,but prop 8 which seeks to not only over-turn the ca supreme court but put discrimination into our constitution seems like it would need more then a bare majority or 52-48. This is why our republican governor Arnold has said that he thinks the courts will throw this prop h8te out and Arnold think Ca will lead this country again on tolerance and rights,this has tarnished Californias tolerant image,but most of the people who voted for this were poor rural republcian trash and welfare minorites,so they could care less about business anyway.



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    Cottonquinn [174] says: I know Miss Walters needs "Views" from all points but her choice with Elizabeth still amazes me. Who is she? I respect her conservative views but she goes overboard and thats my view.
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    I think the intention of The View in selecting Elizabich in the beginning, was that she was high-profile for awhile, because of her stint on Survivor, and at the same time, she was a typical young girl in America, which the viewers would be able to identify with. She was not like this in the beginning. She has become too big for her britches, as the grannies used to call it. This is a young woman who was willing to put her body through tremendous rigors that could utlimately cause permanent damage to her health, and all for…..a cash prize (maybe). That says it all about the intelligence of Elisabeth Hasselbeck.
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    pig nasty ,Im sure thats your nickname because you are such a hick or is that ebonics. You really need to not come on this site if you dont like gay people or Perez,get it bitch,go back to midnight basketball or whatever trash likes you do in your ghetto.



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    Cotton its gay not homo,.so at least have some respect when you pretend you're some religous devout good christian instead of the lowlife blue collar scumbag that you really are.



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    Re: Obama says YES on 8 – Oh yes, saw that lovely video tonight. It's disturbing. It's un-American. Big leather boys strong arming grandma ripping her home made paper mâché cross out of her hands and stomping it to the ground - they then circle like a pack of animals shoving signs in her face - brown shirts - that's what they are - fucking Homo Nazi's - and they should be arrested - keep gving us video you fucking assholes - let the world see what homosexuality is - in all it's angry glory



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    Pig nasty ,for someone who has the nerve to call people hatemongers,few are as a disgusting and hateful as a scumbag like you,get off this site ,dirty animal.



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    Society has been educated to believe that homosexuality is nothing more than a life choice ~ and that is true ~ but it is the life choice only of individuals who have an unnatural inhibitor to the natural processes of a healthy, chemically-balanced brain. That is how they are able to function normally in other areas of their thought processes that are Not affected.
    Re: Pig_Nasty

    Agreed. No matter the cause of homosexuality those who embrace it and try to normalize it are essentially trying to normalize a defect. Instead of seeing the aberration for what it really is and working to fix it or change it they just say, "there's nothing wrong" and just ignore the abnormality. From a secular view I'd say homosexuality is psychological. From a spiritual view I'd say sin causes homosexuality and it is a thorn in the flesh to those who are stricken with it. Anytime one asks, "why would someone would choose to be gay?" I answer, "because they are mentally ill and they like the attention they get from "being different". Afterall, gays are very flamboyant and in your face with their perversion so it is clear they are drama queens seeking attention. One could argue that homosexuality is derived from both the sins of lust and rebellion specifically.



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    Mona_Lisa [183] says: I said he turned into a hate mongerer since prop 8???…Really? when did I say this?…
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    LOL. I can't believe you are so fucking thick. Yes, you implied that when you said "Martha and her staff haven't visited the site Since the election", because that implies that they visited the site Before the election, and since Perez has been hate-mongering against women since Day 1 - then if they Ever visited this site, they would know that he is a hate-mongerer. You are definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer. And grab a clue that Perez also calls himself P-Nasty ~ so Pig-Nasty is a moniker for Perez. Idiot. Can't you tell by the picture? Idiot.
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    Re: piratecookie

    Another "christian" who so casually flouts the institution of marriage and thinks it should be redefined to conform to the expectations of a world mired in sin, perversion and degradation.



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    Re: knowitall

    Dismissed.



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    Of course God doesn't want gay people getting married because He made DICKS FOR CHICKS.



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    Perez, it's a bot hypocritical of you to be hating those who disagree with you, obviously majority rules in this country…. gays have the same rights as everyone else, they want Special rights, to marry the SAME sex. Where is the line drawn, cousins? pets? Americans have rights to do what they want with their private lives, but if you study statistics, the breakdown of traditional family negatively affects society. This time I believe you are pushing your beliefs on us. I have to stand up for God having a plan for family and a design for procreation. If you don't agree with someones actions, does that mean you hate them as a person and with them harm?



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    IdontKnowShitFromSugar says: pig nasty ,Im sure thats your nickname because you are such a hick or is that ebonics. You really need to not come on this site if you dont like gay people or Perez,get it bitch,go back to midnight basketball or whatever trash likes you do in your ghetto.
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    Actually, I'm caucasian and from Vancouver, which is the most desired city in the world to live, according to the research; and I have a post-secondary education, so I don't really fit any of the demographics you are attempting to insult me with. The Ebonics remark was especially mean, because that was intended to belittle an entire culture. You are clearly a racist to your core, and you are too stupid to understand that racism flows from ignorance and insecurity. Hey, some people are born black, some people are born stupid…and you got the stupid, so if you can insult blacks for being black, I can insult the stupid for being stupid. And you don't get to tell me whether I can come here or not, bitch, so go back to your room at the hostel and stfu ~ arrogant fool.
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    IdontKnowShitFromSugar says: Pig nasty ,for someone who has the nerve to call people hatemongers,few are as a disgusting and hateful as a scumbag like you,get off this site ,dirty animal.
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    I don't take orders from you, shit-for-brains, and you are too stupid to understand the difference between dialogue and insults. You are way out of your league.
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    Re: CottonquinnRe: Cottonquinn
    Nothing casual about it. I know and love gay/lesbian couples (20-25 years and still counting) who have been together and had more integrity and fidelity in their relationship than most straight couples I know. I was raised in a different environment than most, which included a village of white, Jewish, African-American, homosexuals and straights. My adopted bubbe would tell me, “Love is love. It matters not who it is for or why. Love them with what you have.” My gay “dad” told me, “Dick is great. Enjoy.” He also taught me how to protect myself and have a healthy attitude about sex. Something that my very Southern, very proper mother did not have the capacity to do. And, as my proper Southern grandmother would say in her boudoir as she puffed away like a mad woman on a cigarette, “Honey, if you don’t like it, don’t look.” It is all complicated and you have the right to feel how you want, as do I and anybody else. That is what is great about America—Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Don’t be so narrow minded and think you know me or anyone else by what they post. I am sure Fred Phelps is looking for some more members to prop up his ego. Keep on truckin' Perez!
    "HIV/Aids is everyone's disease. Preach biology, not morality."
    “Get tested often—people cheat and people lie. Protect yourself.”
    Piratecookie



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    and yet you are the king "queen" of wrong information.



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    Whoopie is the best, fuck the other two.



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    Personally, I hope it goes through and gay couples can marry, but some folk aren't comfortable with homosexuality - that's just the way it is, you can rant and scream all you like but they're entitled to their opinions.

    An awful lot of people agree with these women and share their opinions.



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    Prop 8 has passed. If prop 8 lost by 52.3%, you wouldnt be saying that it "only" passed by that margain. The point is that it passed, the people have spoken and the majority of people don't want gay marraige. It's not based on fear, it's based on belief. Americans want a black president, but not gay marraige. That is the opinion of the majority.

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    One more time, and can I say it LOUD and clear?

    OK, so I have noticed a lot of BIGOTS and LIARS on this blog. They say, Perez you should not do this or that, or blah, blah , blah … but reality is that everytime they come here, they make a GAY LATINO MALE even rich with all your "hits".
    too funny!

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