Dr. Phil was lucky enough to be able to sit down with Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, the mastermind behind the Manti Te'o girlfriend hoax.
If you've been living under a rock or just don't own a TV, we've previously mentioned that the whole Manti Te'o scandal has only been getting more confusing.
Manti is still sticking to the story that he wasn't in on anything and that he's still a victim.
He explains away some of the weirdness of this whole story by saying that he lied about actually meeting his fake girlfriend because he was afraid people would think he was crazy for having an intense relationship with someone he'd never met before.
Well now we're going to hear the other side of the story… the hoaxer's story.
Check out the video (above) for a quick clip of Dr. Phil talking to ET about his interview with Ronaiah.
Cops in Indiana got a call on Saturday afternoon with a report of an "unresponsive female" -- and by the time EMTs arrived to the scene, the woman was found dead. Cops later confirmed it was the former TV star's body.
Henry Winkler, Ron Howard, other former co-stars and countless fans and admirers were still reeling from the news as of Sunday morning, too, with many sharing messages of condolences for Moran (below):