Dr. Phil was lucky enough to be able to sit down with Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, the mastermind behind the Manti Te'o girlfriend hoax.
If you've been living under a rock or just don't own a TV, we've previously mentioned that the whole Manti Te'o scandal has only been getting more confusing.
Manti is still sticking to the story that he wasn't in on anything and that he's still a victim.
He explains away some of the weirdness of this whole story by saying that he lied about actually meeting his fake girlfriend because he was afraid people would think he was crazy for having an intense relationship with someone he'd never met before.
Well now we're going to hear the other side of the story… the hoaxer's story.
Check out the video (above) for a quick clip of Dr. Phil talking to ET about his interview with Ronaiah.
We're not sure WHY these people are famous, but we are definitely here for the drama!
Alexis Ren and Jay Alvarrez first shot to social media fame back in 2015 when the Internet dubbed them one of the original examples of "relationship goals," as they shared beautiful travel content from exotic locations to Instagram and YouTube.
But we guess all the vacationing wasn't enough to maintain this relationship, because shit just got really, really real this week as the former love birds took shots at each other online!
Reports surfaced a few months back that there was trouble in various paradises for the models, but Miz Ren publicly confirmed the split this week on Twitter in a savage rant calling out not only Jay's penis size, but how the "fuckboy" allegedly ended things.