Scooter Braun STILL doesn’t understand why Taylor Swift hates him!
In Thursday’s episode of the Second Thought podcast, the music manager claimed he remains completely baffled by his feud with the artist:
“[I] went from being like, loved and appreciated for over a decade to literally a villain the next night. I don’t want to go into that, but I will say something that will really sum it up that I don’t know if I’ve ever really said. I don’t know Taylor Swift. I think I’ve met her in my life three times.”

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But it’s not just that he doesn’t know her well. Scooter claimed before he took ownership of her masters, Taylor was actually super nice to him — and even invited him to a party! He detailed:
“I have never had a substantial conversation with her in my life. I one time got invited to a private party by her. She told me she had the utmost respect for me. I told her I had the most respect for her. You don’t spend $300 million buying a label that she’s on unless you’re excited at the opportunity to work with her.”
Well, sure, she’s a nice person! But did she really say she had the “utmost respect” for him? He was largely known for managing Justin Bieber back then, and it’s not like Taylor was the biggest Bieber fan what with his rocky relationship with her bestie Selena Gomez.
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But what really ruined whatever respect she had for Scooter came later. As Perezcious readers know, Justin’s now-former manager bought Big Machine Label Group in 2019, which owned Tay’s music at the time, so he gained control of her first six albums. The songwriter slammed the deal, alleging she wasn’t given a chance to buy the masters herself. She went on to rerecord her music as an epic f**k you!
Prior to this deal, Scooter said he had “no contact” with the Anti-Hero singer:
“I think I spoke to her, really, once for like more than two minutes. But it was a very nice conversation. And beyond that, nothing ever. And then the three years prior to us buying Big Machine, she and I had no contact. I think it was two years. The party was like two years earlier or three years earlier, and then never had any contact through the whole thing. So I’m just as confused that this is part of my life as you are. But, I choose to learn and grow from it.”
After all the hate, Scooter sold the masters to a private equity firm named Shamrock Capitol, who finally sold Taylor back her masters last May. Despite the happy ending for the Grammy winner, it’s something that’ll always haunt the investor now, but he’s trying to take the high road:
“I learned a tremendous amount from it. I chose to grow from it. I’m grateful for it at this point in my life. But I think there’s this big misconception that, like, we knew each other and we had this feud and I managed her for years. And people are usually shocked to find out that I legitimately don’t know her and didn’t have many interactions with her and never really knew her.”
Ultimately, he thinks the battle has done a lot of good for other musicians, he noted:
“Labels make bets on artists, and they own the masters and the artists own their publishing. Artists end up selling their publishing whether they need the money or decide they want to sell, and the labels are very, very well-funded so they don’t have to transact the masters. The majority, to this day, of masters are still owned by labels. As confusing as [the situation was] to me, I think what it did bring to light is that artists are going to start wanting to own their masters, and I think you’re seeing artists more and more do that, and I think that’s great.”
That’s Taylor’s power!
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